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[ciardha]

as well i dont trust innera trans she is only a side shipper NS an a full ss fan you forgot to mention that.

kish was being specefic i belive in defence of sakura he isnt going to let anyonyone bash her in responce honest an determind girl to the hinata lovers.

kish was vague it can as well mean naruto is close (as in close to hart) but she cares for sasuke.

Naruto was shown in the past thats what he had stuck in his head an sakura shatterd it i can go on.
as well i think im sticking with catsi sakura wasnt lying i found more than plenty of evidence of that.


What it comes down to is how you take the mang at what angle from past or presnt exsperence.

And the love bit was inserted by the debunked summary maker. Not there, the actual words were "she .... Sasuke" absolutely no hint that the inserted word was love, and I notice as well the downplaying of the full out statement about her feelings for Naruto, from the same interview where Kishimoto bluntly states Sakura was telling the truth about being in love with Naruto and letting go of her romantic feelings for Sasuke. So the correct interpretation is of course that Naruto is close to her heart- she's in love with him, but she still has the memories of her crush and the team mate bond, which is exactly how things played out.

Edited by ciardha, 01 October 2010 - 11:47 AM.

[ahmed]

i wanted to say what you siad now Hypno (in your last post)
but i was afraid Soupy go against me also and attack me .she always do that and i dont know why ( when it comes to Sakura's Confession )

sorry Soupy if i misunderstood you,but that's what i see
dont hate me

but i want to add small thing about the interview: i dont bothers to any thing more than what in the manga and sometimes (in my head only) i go to the anime

[Cloud]

but i want to add small thing about the interview: i dont bothers to any thing more than what in the manga and sometimes (in my head only) i go to the anime

But then the manga comes first, which is used more than the anime as evidence.

[jason voorhees]

But then the manga comes first, which is used more than the anime as evidence.

i disagree somtimes the anime can clarify better what the manga can not.

[Cloud]

i disagree somtimes the anime can clarify better what the manga can not.

How? By animating the characters? Or inserting scenes?

If you want solid evidence, the manga does it the best.

[jason voorhees]

How? By animating the characters? Or inserting scenes?

If you want solid evidence, the manga does it the best.

yes but by animating the characters not all of its fillers. it can give you abit more personal view or jest feeling it really can help becides major scenes i tend to ignore the rest.

Edited by hypno toad, 01 October 2010 - 04:26 PM.

[tricksie]

yes but by animating the characters not all of its fillers. it can give you abit more personal view or jest feeling it really can help becides major scenes i tend to ignore the rest.

I have to say, when I first watched the anime (and was reading the manga at the same time) it really did fill out some of the scenes. Not the crazy filler arcs, but the regular manga scenes. The anime was generally sticking to the storyline, and the characters' behaviors were in keeping with their manga counterparts. Granted, the movies are whack. However, Sasuke telling Hinata to "shut up" in one movie was a gem, and completely in character!

But more and more, the anime has been chipping away at the storyline. The icing on the cake was that Hinata nonsense in the Pein arc. It was distracted from the rest of the storyline, and took the shine off those would-be great episodes.

I would never look to the anime for 'evidence' or character development. The manga is it. Period.

But there have been many times where I watched the anime and then figured out what the illustration was in the manga. From coloring to explosions to a strange movement. Something I may have disregarded in the manga, I'll see animated and finally realize what I was looking at.

[Insurrection]

yes but by animating the characters not all of its fillers. it can give you abit more personal view or jest feeling it really can help becides major scenes i tend to ignore the rest.

Up until recently I'd say that could happen but with amount of filler crap it just lost mme. We've reached the point that the anime changes the original plot.

[Gravenimage]

And the love bit was inserted by the debunked summary maker. Not there, the actual words were "she .... Sasuke" absolutely no hint that the inserted word was love, and I notice as well the downplaying of the full out statement about her feelings for Naruto, from the same interview where Kishimoto bluntly states Sakura was telling the truth about being in love with Naruto and letting go of her romantic feelings for Sasuke. So the correct interpretation is of course that Naruto is close to her heart- she's in love with him, but she still has the memories of her crush and the team mate bond, which is exactly how things played out.

I will trust you more ciardha than innera but it was obvious when Kishi said that Naruto was close to Sakura. And yet there were some of the opposite fandom saying that when Kishi said that he was talking about Naruto's location where Sakura was (it didn't made sense when they said that but oh well what to expect from the same people who are still trying to find solid evidence that their pairings has big chances of becoming canon in the manga).

[crazyefra]

I don't know but there's also something omitted that Kishi said as well and I quote: "Something will happen / change from Sakura to Sasuke". I don't know about you guys but for the next JUMP Festa, I hope Kishi's interview doesn't get "hijacked" by some idiot or idiots trying to ruin the manga.

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[Gravenimage]

I don't know but there's also something omitted that Kishi said as well and I quote: "Something will happen / change from Sakura to Sasuke". I don't know about you guys but for the next JUMP Festa, I hope Kishi's interview doesn't get "hijacked" by some idiot or idiots trying to ruin the manga.

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I hope so too efra I don't want a nice interview that Kishi might give NS hints and the crazy opposite fandom will try to change the words making them fit more that it goes to their pairings liking.

[Derock]

I hope so too efra I don't want a nice interview that Kishi might give NS hints and the crazy opposite fandom will try to change the words making them fit more that it goes to their pairings liking.

Eventually, it will get "hijacked" once the name, "Hinata" is mentioned somewhere in the interview. And we can't do anything about it. They got to it first and they will show it to the entire fandom so they can go squeeling that the pairing will (not so likely in reality) be canon.

[Dreamer]

Eventually, it will get "hijacked" once the name, "Hinata" is mentioned somewhere in the interview. And we can't do anything about it. They got to it first and they will show it to the entire fandom so they can go squeeling that the pairing will (not so likely in reality) be canon.

The truth sometimes hurts Derock.

[ShippudenGirl]

thanks Shippu-chan.

You welcome future husband I love your explainations

Yeah, not to mention the foreshadowing with Kushina, Yoshino and Tsume.

(the part where Naruto said he finally understands Kiba and Shikamaru's fear of their mothers when he met Kushina)

Ninja Mom's. There the ones that wear the pants in the family XD

[Derock]

The truth sometimes hurts Derock.

Oh yes it does. Been through those situations.

[jason voorhees]

I will trust you more ciardha than innera but it was obvious when Kishi said that Naruto was close to Sakura. And yet there were some of the opposite fandom saying that when Kishi said that he was talking about Naruto's location where Sakura was (it didn't made sense when they said that but oh well what to expect from the same people who are still trying to find solid evidence that their pairings has big chances of becoming canon in the manga).

as i said befor the japan shonen manga has (loved) not loves

Up until recently I'd say that could happen but with amount of filler crap it just lost mme. We've reached the point that the anime changes the original plot.

true i agree but like was said alot of the none crap episodes were really nice an you could see there point of view (its hard to exsplain) but i guss you could get into it more i guss would be correct.

Edited by hypno toad, 02 October 2010 - 12:13 AM.

[Toasty Warrior]

You know the thing I don't like about the anime sometimes is how they take things from the manga and blow them up into something they weren't suppose to be, just look at the recent arc, that's more than enough evident right there.

[ShippudenGirl]

Mhmm, I agree Toasty. I don't think that Hinata filler was necassary at all.

[Miss Soupy]

and understand why the most of us thinking that you think she was lying
sorry if you don't understand very well,but i do my best with my not first language
and i always wanted to say what i said now

EDIT:i want to ask you(Soupy) onther thing:
you said before that you think she wasn't lying,are you sure of what you think or have doubt or you think also that she may be lying,and why?
Can i know?(i want only to know your opinion)you said before the other readers..........
i dont want to know how the other readers willl think because i know well,i want only to know your opinion

Well didn't I just post how I think the confession is a complicated thing? You are getting too hung up on this idea that you either have to believe it or you don't. That, either it is yes or it's no. I disagree. I think the confession was too complicated to just say you believe it 100% or don't believe it 100%. Since there was a lot going on and Sakura had various reasons for doing or saying everything, it can't just be decided from those pages. We have yet to see Sakura's own thoughts beyond her inner apology to Naruto. All we know is that she felt guilty about what she was doing. We know Sai's observations, but we still don't know Sakura's feelings. Things went back to normal between them afterward, so we are still waiting to find out more. It seems to me that Kishi isn't ready yet to make his chosen pairing canon.

If you have further questions you can always PM me. I don't mind, and I won't attack you >.> Not sure why you think I would. This is a debate thread, not a thread for everyone to just say I AGREE I AGREE. There are going to be differences in interpretation and opinion. I don't post if I just agree with something because what's the point in that?

Also, please stop making things up about Innera. She is a respected NaruSaku fan who happens to be japanese and has done a ton of translations for the NaruSaku fans over at NF. Nick can attest to this.

[jason voorhees]

im part of the other form it comen knowledge with Innera as well as amitted a few times she mostly ships ss not made up or i would not have posted it which can lead to based trans. as well the loves was never there so it kills this conversation all together.

honestly i have nothing agenst Innera personaly

Edited by hypno toad, 02 October 2010 - 01:12 AM.