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[PhenixElite]

after reading this chapter i have to admit i was pretty worried about naruhina actually becoming canon.But then I thought that it wasnt canon because most pairings are decided at the end of shonen mangas. So i started to think it was just another naruhina moment like her confession. But allot of Nh fans are saying its now canon and i don't really know what to think! If nh happens im dropping the series because i really dont like hinata or naruhina and it wuld be that fact that kishi took alot of his time developing naruto and sakura's relationship but then changed his mind so suddenly. Is naruhina canon or not?!

Its not cannon. Theres still at least 1 1/2 years to go.
For me this scene just showed that NH wont be canon in the end.

[T XD]

after reading this chapter i have to admit i was pretty worried about naruhina actually becoming canon.But then I thought that it wasnt canon because most pairings are decided at the end of shonen mangas. So i started to think it was just another naruhina moment like her confession. But allot of Nh fans are saying its now canon and i don't really know what to think! If nh happens im dropping the series because i really dont like hinata or naruhina and it wuld be that fact that kishi took alot of his time developing naruto and sakura's relationship but then changed his mind so suddenly. Is naruhina canon or not?!

NH isn't canon. There's no mutual feelings from Naruto, it's just romantic from Hinata's side when she was commenting on his hand. There's a fact that Naruto loves Sakura. How can he begin to love Hinata from out of the blue. It's very illogical in a manga and will be a bad writing.

She should punch him down there. If you know what I mean.

If she does it when they first reunite with him again, they won't have the trouble of the fight with him anymore

Edited by T XD, 31 December 2012 - 05:27 PM.

[Arachnia]

after reading this chapter i have to admit i was pretty worried about naruhina actually becoming canon.But then I thought that it wasnt canon because most pairings are decided at the end of shonen mangas. So i started to think it was just another naruhina moment like her confession. But allot of Nh fans are saying its now canon and i don't really know what to think! If nh happens im dropping the series because i really dont like hinata or naruhina and it wuld be that fact that kishi took alot of his time developing naruto and sakura's relationship but then changed his mind so suddenly. Is naruhina canon or not?!

The way i see it this chapter can mean 2 things

1 Closure for Hinata
2 Building up NaruHina for end game

its as easy as that.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

The way i see it this chapter can mean 2 things

1 Closure for Hinata
2 Building up NaruHina for end game

its as easy as that.

the 1 until now it was a closure for Hinata, kishi loves to foreshadowing things and until now there was any hints of Naruto actually having doubts on his feelings for Sakura.
And there was a foreshadowing of Sakura having feelings for Naruto on that bridge scene and on others, even the confession is a foreshadowing too.

the 2 it lacks confirmation we need to see what will happen on the next chapters, if Hinata's spotlight ends on the next chapter so there's no building up Nh but Hinata itself.

At first impression kishimoto makes the things look like they came out of blue but after re-reading it, he shows that it wasnt, orochimaru's ressurrection, Obito speech like "Someome from your kind will do the same things as we are doing now", Mina/Kushi "I didnt like Minato at first time i thought he was weak, minato's dream of becoming hokage, he saving Kushina etc...", there are a lot of foreshadowing for NaruSaku.
I dont know what's the deal but Sakura's traits can be seen on both Minato and Kushina.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 31 December 2012 - 05:16 PM.

[Canadian_DJ]

Well he tried to do it and only he could was with Kakashi sending his clone to the Kamui, but still the problem is those two hits didnt barely made a scratch on obito.

The only real damage to him was from the kamiu, that rasengan and kakashi's punch.

@Canadian i was being sarcastic i dont believe on developments to ten-ten shino and rock lee, i mean the characters that had development so far was Shika, Ino, Chouji, Neji,Hinata.
For me i think it was the last and definitive development, there will be no more development for them.

Yeah i understand, so basically i persobally think everyone will get their turn to shine, including ten ten and shino and kiba even though they're simple characters, because i believe that in this arc they'll get they're closure and awsome moments, because this will be their last time in the spot light, because the major characters are the real deal.

[Arachnia]

the 1 until now it was a closure for Hinata, kishi loves to foreshadowing things and until now there was any hints of Naruto actually having doubts on his feelings for Sakura.
And there was a foreshadowing of Sakura having feelings for Naruto on that bridge scene and on others, even the confession is a foreshadowing too.

the 2 it lacks confirmation we need to see what will happen on the next chapters, if Hinata's spotlight ends on the next chapter so there's no building up Nh but Hinata itself.

At first impression kishimoto makes the things look like they came out of blue but after re-reading it, he shows that it wasnt, orochimaru's ressurrection, Obito speech like "Someome from your kind will do the same things as we are doing now", Mina/Kushi "I didnt like Minato at first time i thought he was weak, minato's dream of becoming hokage, he saving Kushina etc...", there are a lot of foreshadowing for NaruSaku.
I dont know what's the deal but Sakura's traits can be seen on both Minato and Kushina.

i agree 100% with what you are saying the problem is i think sometimes we think too hard about things.
sometimes i think we are thinking way above the intentions of kishimoto what he has planned like us thinking obito will strike sakura nxt just too hurt naruto its a good plan in a way but i doubt kishi sees it that way much like other things we said would be great writting i think no i fear kishi wil hold this manga on the save and easy road meaning NH and something even worse SS and that would break the manga for me not even the NH part

Edited by Arachnia, 31 December 2012 - 05:36 PM.

[PhenixElite]

i agree 100% with what you are saying the problem is i think sometimes we think too hard about things.
sometimes i think we are thinking way above the intentions of kishimoto what he has planned like us thinking obito will strike sakura nxt just too hurt naruto its a good plan in a way but i doubt kishi sees it that way much like other things we said would be great writting i think no i fear kishi wil hold this manga on the save and easy road meaning NH and something even worse SS and that would break the manga for me not even the NH part

The manga has never taken an easy route before, so why should ut start now?

[Branden]

Everybody is still flocking to this thread, what exactly are you all trying to search for here? For me I'm just trying to see if people have calmed down since the release.

[PhenixElite]

Everybody is still flocking to this thread, what exactly are you all trying to search for here? For me I'm just trying to see if people have calmed down since the release.

Well most calmed down, but there will always be doubters xD

[Canadian_DJ]

Its not cannon. Theres still at least 1 1/2 years to go.
For me this scene just showed that NH wont be canon in the end.

I agree.

Do you mind sharing your thoughts on this topic on how this scene shows that NH wont br canon? it would be awsome to hear your opinion on thr matter

Hey guys remember chiyos last words to sakura on chapter 279 page 10 when she told sakura, and i quote "Sakura..a women like you with with a galant personality that matches a mans is a rarity indeed" and the fact that she said sakura will surpass her master, what do you think she meant by her first statement? Perhaps something that has to do with naruto and sakura having the same personality...whats your take on it guys?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I agree.

Do you mind sharing your thoughts on this topic on how this scene shows that NH wont br canon? it would be awsome to hear your opinion on thr matter

Hey guys remember chiyos last words to sakura on chapter 279 page 10 when she told sakura, and i quote "Sakura..a women like you with with a galant personality that matches a mans is a rarity indeed" and the fact that she said sakura will surpass her master, what do you think she meant by her first statement? Perhaps something that has to do with naruto and sakura having the same personality...whats your take on it guys?

She says that it's rare for a woman like her to find a man who can match her.
In other words, "Sakura marry with Naruto"

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 31 December 2012 - 06:02 PM.

[PhenixElite]

I agree.

Do you mind sharing your thoughts on this topic on how this scene shows that NH wont br canon? it would be awsome to hear your opinion on thr matter

Hey guys remember chiyos last words to sakura on chapter 279 page 10 when she told sakura, and i quote "Sakura..a women like you with with a galant personality that matches a mans is a rarity indeed" and the fact that she said sakura will surpass her master, what do you think she meant by her first statement? Perhaps something that has to do with naruto and sakura having the same personality...whats your take on it guys?

Sorry cant right now. Celebrating new year ^^.
By the way haply new year at all.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I do believe we can be overthinking and sometimes way above Kishi's intentions. I can't help but always picture that moment from Rock Lee SD where Gai was Hokage. People will praise/upset at Kishi for making NH out of nowhere and all he can say is "Huh?" That's my image. I think we should really wait. Right now, it does come out as Hinata development. That's not to say NH got a nice image to see, but if there's nothing further than that, then case close.

[sushi.]

I do believe we can be overthinking and sometimes way above Kishi's intentions. I can't help but always picture that moment from Rock Lee SD where Gai was Hokage. People will praise/upset at Kishi for making NH out of nowhere and all he can say is "Huh?" That's my image. I think we should really wait. Right now, it does come out as Hinata development. That's not to say NH got a nice image to see, but if there's nothing further than that, then case close.

And then he'll pick his nose

[Slextrem]

I'm sorry if this goes off topic, but I need to get something off of my chest:

This is in regards to my video about 615. I'm beginning to remember why I stopped uploading videos in the first place. My head felt like exploding after dealing with all of the personal attacks, hypocrisy, and bias arguments. Some guy is trying to pick a fight over my perspective of the chapter, as if it's going to prove something. He believes the hand holding is a sign of Naruto's love for Hinata, which is fine. He can believe whatever he wants. Personally, I don't see NaruHina as cannon yet because we haven't been given Naruto's perspective, though I admit it has a higher possibility of becoming cannon.

What I find golden is, he first tells me I'm bias (which I've already acknowledged several times), and then he sends me this:

http://www.narutofor...p;postcount=535

...and follows up with this:

... --Click here to view--

That was more of a rant to me and you really just tried to make excuses for NS. To some how happen.Funny.

That hand holding and never letting go says Naruto's P.O.V about the situation he really isn't as dense as he leads on you know.
Or how you make him out to be

And if Sakura does choose Naruto he would just be a second choice, just out of pity.

Do not bring up data books, just the manga and just face it NS got trolled over in 469 by BOTH Naruto and Sakura(her lying about "loving" Naruto and Naruto seeing straight through her BS lie) I'd say he's lost respect for her after that.

And you know Naruto would just be a plan b for Sakura and lets say Sasuke does die I'm sure Naruto wouldn't even think of getting with Sakura after that and it would just be forcing them together and that is not love.


Yes. Sakura DOES love Sasuke NOT Naruto, and do not bring up that lie of a confession as being genuine because it was not.

The hypocrisy is so overwhelming, I can't even... I've already told him, I'm not interested in a fight, (sorry, "debate"), the purpose behind my video was to share my perspective of the chapter and raise a few points as to why, as a NaruSaku fan, I'm not worried. He just won't drop it though. Is my opinion really that threatening to him? Just because I don't believe NaruHina is cannon from 615, he needs to attack me for it? Seriously.

[sushi.]

I made videos before too, and then I deleted my account. It's frustrating, right? I think there was one NH that respected me. I made those videos for NaruSaku fans, it's like this forum. We're discussing our pairing, and I don't see the difference between a video and a regular forumpost. I didn't make those videos to tell NH fans that they should "Be aware, NaruSaku is coming..", nor did I tell them to think what I think.

I don't think they'll understand, but if you put it in the description box, nothing bad can come out of it. (although you kinda did already lol )
And doesn't blocking those users prevent them from commenting on the videos? It must be a pain to delete them all

All in all, I know how you feel.

Edited by sushi., 31 December 2012 - 06:54 PM.

[Strangelove]

WHo's tenten?

She is a Homunculus working undercover, as a matter of fact...she is a he. ^^

[NinjaMedic]

I agree.

Do you mind sharing your thoughts on this topic on how this scene shows that NH wont br canon? it would be awsome to hear your opinion on thr matter

Hey guys remember chiyos last words to sakura on chapter 279 page 10 when she told sakura, and i quote "Sakura..a women like you with with a galant personality that matches a mans is a rarity indeed" and the fact that she said sakura will surpass her master, what do you think she meant by her first statement? Perhaps something that has to do with naruto and sakura having the same personality...whats your take on it guys?

maybe she'll finally surpass tsunade by landing a hit on madara or obito..?

[Luna]

I'm sorry if this goes off topic, but I need to get something off of my chest:

This is in regards to my video about 615. I'm beginning to remember why I stopped uploading videos in the first place. My head felt like exploding after dealing with all of the personal attacks, hypocrisy, and bias arguments. Some guy is trying to pick a fight over my perspective of the chapter, as if it's going to prove something. He believes the hand holding is a sign of Naruto's love for Hinata, which is fine. He can believe whatever he wants. Personally, I don't see NaruHina as cannon yet because we haven't been given Naruto's perspective, though I admit it has a higher possibility of becoming cannon.

What I find golden is, he first tells me I'm bias (which I've already acknowledged several times), and then he sends me this:

http://www.narutofor...p;postcount=535

...and follows up with this:

... --Click here to view--

That was more of a rant to me and you really just tried to make excuses for NS. To some how happen.Funny.

That hand holding and never letting go says Naruto's P.O.V about the situation he really isn't as dense as he leads on you know.
Or how you make him out to be

And if Sakura does choose Naruto he would just be a second choice, just out of pity.

Do not bring up data books, just the manga and just face it NS got trolled over in 469 by BOTH Naruto and Sakura(her lying about "loving" Naruto and Naruto seeing straight through her BS lie) I'd say he's lost respect for her after that.

And you know Naruto would just be a plan b for Sakura and lets say Sasuke does die I'm sure Naruto wouldn't even think of getting with Sakura after that and it would just be forcing them together and that is not love.


Yes. Sakura DOES love Sasuke NOT Naruto, and do not bring up that lie of a confession as being genuine because it was not.

The hypocrisy is so overwhelming, I can't even... I've already told him, I'm not interested in a fight, (sorry, "debate"), the purpose behind my video was to share my perspective of the chapter and raise a few points as to why, as a NaruSaku fan, I'm not worried. He just won't drop it though. Is my opinion really that threatening to him? Just because I don't believe NaruHina is cannon from 615, he needs to attack me for it? Seriously.

Naruhina fans are-insert bad word here-.....He feels threatened by the video because you stated mostly facts and some speculation and that argument Naruhina fans always bring about second choice....wouldn't hinata be a second choice???? Naruto still loves Sakura so that argument is invalid until further notice.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I'm sorry if this goes off topic, but I need to get something off of my chest:

This is in regards to my video about 615. I'm beginning to remember why I stopped uploading videos in the first place. My head felt like exploding after dealing with all of the personal attacks, hypocrisy, and bias arguments. Some guy is trying to pick a fight over my perspective of the chapter, as if it's going to prove something. He believes the hand holding is a sign of Naruto's love for Hinata, which is fine. He can believe whatever he wants. Personally, I don't see NaruHina as cannon yet because we haven't been given Naruto's perspective, though I admit it has a higher possibility of becoming cannon.

What I find golden is, he first tells me I'm bias (which I've already acknowledged several times), and then he sends me this:

http://www.narutofor...p;postcount=535

...and follows up with this:

... --Click here to view--

That was more of a rant to me and you really just tried to make excuses for NS. To some how happen.Funny.

That hand holding and never letting go says Naruto's P.O.V about the situation he really isn't as dense as he leads on you know.
Or how you make him out to be

And if Sakura does choose Naruto he would just be a second choice, just out of pity.

Do not bring up data books, just the manga and just face it NS got trolled over in 469 by BOTH Naruto and Sakura(her lying about "loving" Naruto and Naruto seeing straight through her BS lie) I'd say he's lost respect for her after that.

And you know Naruto would just be a plan b for Sakura and lets say Sasuke does die I'm sure Naruto wouldn't even think of getting with Sakura after that and it would just be forcing them together and that is not love.


Yes. Sakura DOES love Sasuke NOT Naruto, and do not bring up that lie of a confession as being genuine because it was not.

The hypocrisy is so overwhelming, I can't even... I've already told him, I'm not interested in a fight, (sorry, "debate"), the purpose behind my video was to share my perspective of the chapter and raise a few points as to why, as a NaruSaku fan, I'm not worried. He just won't drop it though. Is my opinion really that threatening to him? Just because I don't believe NaruHina is cannon from 615, he needs to attack me for it? Seriously.

This guy is extremely biased and a retard.

when i see this
"No. The main focus of the chapter isn't NaruHina. The main focus of this chapter is the bond that Naruto and Hinata have at present, as Hinata reminds Naruto that they share their Nindo, Hinata is the one that gets Naruto out of his funk, and it is Hinata that Naruto thanks for always being at his side. And the hand-holding has romantic connotations given it's a Japanese work...

Oh wait."
This focus of the chapter was about Naruto's ninja way, and his connection with his friend hence the name "connected".

and this

"The one mention of Naruto's feelings towards Sakura, after Hinata's confession, is a flashback from Sai reflecting on an event that happened before Hinata's confession. That ends up being contradicted by Naruto himself when he calls BS on the failfession and refuses to accept the idea of Sakura not being in love with Sasuke, or trying to kill him. Even if Naruto does have lingering attraction to Sakura, he has no desire for a romantic relationship with her, since in Naruto's mind that spot is reserved for Sasuke.

This allows Naruto to look elsewhere for romance. And Naruto went out of his way to lend Hinata Kurama's chakra in a romantic fashion."

He will have to decide between lingering attraction and romantic relationship, even with an attraction you will want a relationship and Naruto stated that he wants a relationship with Sakura so many times.

moreover
"Naruto is a very instinctive individual. He doesn't think very long and hard about anything, but what he says and does are always honest as a result. Naruto uses a romantic gesture to share Kurama's chakra with Hinata, so one can assume Naruto considers his bond with Hinata romantic by the action alone.

And no, this is not the same as Naruto saving Sakura Bridal-style from Sasuke at the end of Five Kage Summit; Naruto doesn't so much as look at Sakura at all, instead eye-locking with Sasuke immediately and then going on to refer to Sakura as a teammate and nothing else. In this chapter, Naruto does not take his eyes off Hinata until the moment he's ready to attack the enemy at the end of the chapter, hand-in-hand with Hinata. From the moment Hinata slaps Naruto, the two of them do not separate, even in the middle of a friggin war."
The chapter ended on a flashback and he's making assumption that they will be together all the time, hence the fact that who approached Naruto was Hinata and not Naruto who comes close to Hinata.

"I repeat; Naruto has given Hinata the symbol of his parents' love"
Nope, she reminded him about his Ninja's way, there's no symbol of parent's love here.

I'm sorry but ignore this guy, respond that he's super biased and he has no right to try refuting your arguments just tell him to agree to disagree.

You dont need to close your video, just block/ignore those guys does not make any sense to jump in debates with NH.
Just wait calmly if they get trolled just answer.


I still dont understand this guy if you love someome dont you want to have a relationship with that person?

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 31 December 2012 - 07:05 PM.