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#141 True

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Posted 10 March 2009 - 02:34 AM

Damn it what am I doing wrong against Cammy!?! Even on medium I have trouble defeating her, yet I can defeat the majority of the rest of the characters on hardest (excluding the obvious Zangief, Seth, Sagat, -cheap characters etc;). I keep falling for her Ultra and low kicks. Am I supposed to crouch block all throughout the round???

OK Cammy users is there a reason as to why shes so....uh special? What makes her so hard to defeat (I think this may be only me, but I'm sure others have had trouble with her before).

Also does anyone know how exactly to clear this achievement?

Legendary Champion: Defeat Gouken and clear Arcade Mode in Hardest difficulty.

I'm not sure what exactly its asking. I've unlocked Gouken and I've beat Arcade mode in hardest, but it didn't work. Am I supposed to fight him in hardest, and if so who is his rival since I've tried with both Akuma/Ryu. Much appreciated if someone could clear it up.

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Posted 10 March 2009 - 03:56 AM

QUOTE (True @ Mar 9 2009, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Damn it what am I doing wrong against Cammy!?! Even on medium I have trouble defeating her, yet I can defeat the majority of the rest of the characters on hardest (excluding the obvious Zangief, Seth, Sagat, -cheap characters etc;). I keep falling for her Ultra and low kicks. Am I supposed to crouch block all throughout the round???

OK Cammy users is there a reason as to why shes so....uh special? What makes her so hard to defeat (I think this may be only me, but I'm sure others have had trouble with her before).

Also does anyone know how exactly to clear this achievement?

Legendary Champion: Defeat Gouken and clear Arcade Mode in Hardest difficulty.

I'm not sure what exactly its asking. I've unlocked Gouken and I've beat Arcade mode in hardest, but it didn't work. Am I supposed to fight him in hardest, and if so who is his rival since I've tried with both Akuma/Ryu. Much appreciated if someone could clear it up.


Hmm.. let's see...

Cammy can juggle combos (except when using her Ultra during canceling), very high speed (she outbeat Chun-Li wow.gif), deadly when using Light Cannon Spike (meaning she has good recovery after using the move), her Focus Attack Dash Cancel is very quick which is good for rushdown players and her Ultra is quick and deadly when its in its full potential (when the Cannon Spike of the move connects for continuation).

Just read here: http://mycheats.1up..../xbox_360#cammy for more info. happy.gif

Now for the achievement, I think you didn't finish Arcade (with the requirements of 2-3 perfects and 2 Ultra Finishes) without any continues in Hardest which is very damn difficult.

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Posted 10 March 2009 - 04:17 AM

QUOTE (Derock @ Mar 9 2009, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now for the achievement, I think you didn't finish Arcade (with the requirements of 2-3 perfects and 2 Ultra Finishes) without any continues in Hardest which is very damn difficult.


Yeah, but there's a way to work with it. smile.gif Set the rounds to 1 and the time limit to 30. That can help if you really also play a character who you're good with.

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Posted 10 March 2009 - 05:12 PM

QUOTE (Derock @ Mar 9 2009, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm.. let's see...

Cammy can juggle combos (except when using her Ultra during canceling), very high speed (she outbeat Chun-Li wow.gif), deadly when using Light Cannon Spike (meaning she has good recovery after using the move), her Focus Attack Dash Cancel is very quick which is good for rushdown players and her Ultra is quick and deadly when its in its full potential (when the Cannon Spike of the move connects for continuation).

Just read here: http://mycheats.1up..../xbox_360#cammy for more info. happy.gif

Now for the achievement, I think you didn't finish Arcade (with the requirements of 2-3 perfects and 2 Ultra Finishes) without any continues in Hardest which is very damn difficult.

Ah thanks for the info and link, the strategy guide really helps to get a better understanding of the characters. For the most part I have the moves down pat, but its hard to do hadoken/fireballs because 50% of time I end up doing an uppercut instead. Requires a lot of precise timing.

And two perfects, three ultra finishers on hardest and no continues? Whoa...now that is ridiculously hard..especially with Seth as a boss.

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Posted 10 March 2009 - 06:10 PM

Ken, Ryu, Ken, Ken, Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Ken, Ken, Ken, Ryu, Ken, Ken, Gief, Sagat, Ken, Ryu, Ken...


"What is this?" You may ask. This is a typical list of my opponents, when I play online. You would think this game had four characters instead of 25.

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Posted 10 March 2009 - 08:46 PM

QUOTE (No WhereMan @ Mar 10 2009, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ken, Ryu, Ken, Ken, Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Ken, Ken, Ken, Ryu, Ken, Ken, Gief, Sagat, Ken, Ryu, Ken...


"What is this?" You may ask. This is a typical list of my opponents, when I play online. You would think this game had four characters instead of 25.


For some reason, when I did Arcade Request, I played with decent users who played other characters. Hardly I played against 3 Kens, 3 Ryus and 2 Akumas while the rest were others.

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Posted 11 March 2009 - 04:22 AM

QUOTE (Derock @ Mar 10 2009, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For some reason, when I did Arcade Request, I played with decent users who played other characters. Hardly I played against 3 Kens, 3 Ryus and 2 Akumas while the rest were others.


Ya know, Derock, I also tend to run into a lot of people online who love playing Bison, besides just Ryu, Ken, and Akuma. Few deadly Balrog players, as well as some who play Vega well. I hardly see anyone playing, say, Seth or Dan. Fewer too playing Gen. But I myself have faced quite a few different players out there, BUT...

Not to sound forward, Derock, but we gotta have a contest sometime. I'm curious to see how well someone from H&E does on Live. Though I may get my butt kicked. XD

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Posted 11 March 2009 - 06:35 AM

It might be a PS3 thing then. Because that's the majority of the players I see. The shotos.

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Posted 11 March 2009 - 08:41 AM

QUOTE (Bryon_Konoha_Ninja @ Mar 11 2009, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to sound forward, Derock, but we gotta have a contest sometime. I'm curious to see how well someone from H&E does on Live. Though I may get my butt kicked. XD

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QUOTE (No WhereMan @ Mar 11 2009, 02:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It might be a PS3 thing then. Because that's the majority of the players I see. The shotos.


PS3 has a better controller. Since I'd been playing Street Fighter for how many years on PS, the controller has better response to make special moves, canceling and super/ultra combos perform better, unlike the 360 controller.

And well, those people are probably noobs because they only stick to the popular and easy-to-dominate characters (I prefer playing the female characters like Chun-Li and Cammy)

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Posted 11 March 2009 - 12:24 PM

QUOTE (Derock @ Mar 11 2009, 04:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
PS3 has a better controller. Since I'd been playing Street Fighter for how many years on PS, the controller has better response to make special moves, canceling and super/ultra combos perform better, unlike the 360 controller.

And well, those people are probably noobs because they only stick to the popular and easy-to-dominate characters (I prefer playing the female characters like Chun-Li and Cammy)


I have to say its probably personal preference. I have a friend that said the exact opposite, and that he had an easier time with the 360 controller. Personally, after playing with both, I had an easier time with the 360 controller also. I was able to roll certain attacks easier. But honestly I think its whatever you learn to work with most.

Either way, I'm a joystick man anyway. *hugs his Hori stick*

About the characters, based on the tier system, Ryu is one of the higher tier character. Ken, Cammy, Chun Li are in the lower to mid-low tiers. But whatever. It's just boring fighting the same characters. It's like a recycle of every match.

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 04:06 PM

OMG!!!! I did my very first expert combo (well considered it as high-intermediate --> advance) but whatever... wow.png

I did it with Chun-Li in Training Mode. Now I'm not sure it's part of her Normal/Hard Trials but I can put it down here:

Target Combo ---> Kintenkishu ---> Tenkakyaku ---> Tenshokyaku ---> Senretsu Kyaku

The max hits should be 12-13 hits depending on how fast you quickly perform Senretsu Kyaku to catch your opponent while falling and I perform this while my opponent is trapped via wall.

This is very shocking to me because I find charged move combos, especially charged super moves, very hard to pull off in my opinion. But this suddenly came out when I tested one of Chun-Li's Normal Trials and instead of using her EX Spinning Bird Kick, my hand suddenly moved to unleashed Senretsu Kyaku. I wonder this combo can be cancelled to Hosenka...

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Negative! When I perform Hosenka after the combo, Chun-Li moved fast to the end of the screen and misses the opponent as he/she fall after Tenshokyaku.

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 12:45 PM

Anyone get hater mail from guys you've beat?

Yesterday I was playing and i got two messages from guys that I beat, while playing. One person said, "$%*^ you, mom and dad". Another person said, "Can you possibly do more cannon drills?" =D

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 02:24 PM

The KK takes on all challengers just ad my azz sykox300x. ALL are welcome to play the beast.

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 02:35 PM

I don't have a problem but most people have 360 and I don't. If you do, i'd suggest signing up for the SFIV tournament.

Also, do you normally refer to yourself in 3rd person?

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 07:57 PM

Bryon and I played some matches before dinner, he chose Dan and I was Cammy. He won 8-6. Congratulations! biggrin.gif

I also tried out recording one of our matches. Today I connected a Slingbox to the 360, and I can get a good feed to my netbook. smile.gif The only problem is that I haven't found good recording software yet. CamStudio is too choppy, so I'll try FRAPS. Hopefully I can find a solution! It would be cool if replays get added to the game, so you could direct me to your replays and I could record them to video for sharing here. biggrin.gif

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 09:56 PM

I read somewhere that if the popularity of the game holds, Capcom might consider putting out a "Championship Edition". If that comes to pass, I hope its just a download addition like the costume content.

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 02:28 AM

QUOTE (Smiter @ Mar 14 2009, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bryon and I played some matches before dinner, he chose Dan and I was Cammy. He won 8-6. Congratulations! biggrin.gif

I also tried out recording one of our matches. Today I connected a Slingbox to the 360, and I can get a good feed to my netbook. smile.gif The only problem is that I haven't found good recording software yet. CamStudio is too choppy, so I'll try FRAPS. Hopefully I can find a solution! It would be cool if replays get added to the game, so you could direct me to your replays and I could record them to video for sharing here. biggrin.gif


You forgot you won about 3 matches against me, while I won about 7 tongue.gif

I can't wait to see the replays (by the time you have found a good recording program). Especially the 3rd match with my "supposely" 12-13 hit expert combo I pull of with Chun-Li.

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 01:26 PM

Well, I DID go to bed soon after we fought. tongue.gif The last match we played, my grades said "B E D". Pretty strong hint there. XD

I present the first video! The second one is being uploaded at the moment. We did create a third, but it got choppy halfway through - maybe my netbook got a bit low on RAM at that point.



The quality isn't as good as the original, but hopefully it looks OK. happy.gif I'm not sure about the sound, it's pretty quiet. Here's what I used:

  • Slingbox Solo (with component connections, so it can record 360, Wii + PS2)
  • Samsung NC 10 Netbook
  • FRAPS for recording
  • Windows Movie Maker for converting AVI to WMV + adding title.


The good news is it doesn't seem to lag when I play on the TV. The bad news is that it means I can't blame the Slingbox for my losses. tongue.gif

Next up will be Chun-Li vs Cammy. By the way, it was a 10-hit combo, not 12-13. tongue.gif

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 01:47 PM

Nice match guys. Congrats, Smiter on the win. Only thing I would say is work on the cross-ups. Cross-ups are bread and butter for Cammy. Also don't forget about your Cannon Strikes too. I like to mix up my jumping attacks between, Jump LK, Jump MK and Cannon strikes. They help you control the air and keep your opponent guessing.

I'm currently working to get more Hooligan Combo and Spinning Backfist in my game. Hooligan Combo is great when you catch them off guard. And any class that doesn't have SRK, its a great tactic.

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 02:30 PM

Thanks for the advice, NWM. smile.gif Yeah, I definitely plan to go into training and work on Cammy's combos again. I noticed I kept doing C.Spikes instead of S.Arrows and vice versa. I'd also try to do a Super/Ultra and end up doing a spike. I think I need to work on my timing and calm down my motions. I'll also work on the cross-ups you mentioned!

2nd video - this time Derock (Chun-Li) vs me (Cammy). happy.gif





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