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[narusakurama]

Sasuke is just never going to smile, when he's with those girls.

 

He only smiles for his true love ....

[rocci]

 
He only smiles for his true love ....

Naruto?

[Bail o' Lies]

So other people are also thinking this guy was the reason for the ending being nH as well.

 

Exactly. Kishi doing the Naruto Gaiden is a smokescreen to hide the true masterminds behind the ending. All Kishi has been doing was protecting his assistants by making a fool out of himself for over a year with his stupid contradicting interviews.

I think the original intention was a "passing of the tourch" scenario as well as allowing kishi to set up part three. The ending, the gaiden, and that movie were basically kishi being allowed to make the new cast and conflicts for these two clowns to spend years not writing properly.

 

Also the other reason was basically that smokescreen and protecting this new series before it was announced at jump festa this week. Let's face if last year at Jump festa kishi had come out and said after the ending he won't be writing Naruto anymore and that it will now be done by these to clowns. Do you think anyone would have given a kitten about the gaiden or the Bolt movie? It was only the fact that they were written by him that most people gave it any notice. Not only that but the reason for the ending being as it was would have been made instantly clear. For the past year people have been trying to figure out why he made the ending the way it was, and most have settled on sold out or lost his passion and gave into executive pressure. But if they came out that one kishi's assistance was going to be drawing the next series and he will only be "supervising," and that guy is well known in the fan base for being a hinata obsessed sakura bashing otaku. Then everyone would have caught on to what was happening and even the pro-enders would had a hard time explaining it.

 

Right now they can defend this with: "The salty anti-enders constantly attacking, and harassing kishi made him loss his passion for the series, but he didn't want to disappoint the fans who love the series (their insert fantasy) so much. So he passed it on to his assistant who truly understands what he wants part three to be." But if happened back then their would have been no excuse since it would be basically kishi instantly leaving after the ending and just throwing the now mess of a series he is glad to be done with to a guy well known to be a hinata obsessed otaku.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 21 December 2015 - 01:27 AM.

[Bail o' Lies]

 

not revealed yet

since mitsuki looks nothing like sasuke they had to make a new bad boy and bad ass and emo character (a.k.a 2nd sasuke) 

this guy will probably be the one "who is not good but at same time is not really bad" and will be burrito's rival

how much do you guys want to bet sarada will start developing romantic feelings to this guy because he is "hot" af and we will have a new romantic triangle on sarada burrito and the mysterious guy

 

It could be that that pedophile was the one who came up with orochimaru's son cause that guy screams and looks like a fanfiction character. Out of the "new" main cast he is the only one drawn competently, without any changes to what we have seen before, and looks similar to that new characters in style.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 21 December 2015 - 01:15 AM.

[Bail o' Lies]

The names I will now use for the artist of bolt is "that pedophile", and the writer "that clown." Since i can't even bother to remember their characters names and just call them "that (person)'s child." Why should i bother remembering their names?

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 21 December 2015 - 01:17 AM.

[Bail o' Lies]

So has anyone gone to 2-chan to see the Japanese reaction to this other than very long groan followed by a sigh?

[ultranx]

 

 

Please

 

"they fixed on the DVD release" isn't an excuse, Toei screwed up and they know it, the series isn't getting good IMO,  the movies were better until now at least for me

 

I was quite hyped for this series but frankly it has been a disappointment until now but I'm willing to give a chance to it next arc, since it's going to be new content

how exactly were the movies better? they're fixing all the flaws people complained about in resurrection f in the arc version, like how goku and vegeta got the forms, how frieza trained for months to get so powerful, how goku and vegeta started training with whiz, etc. they've been fixing it little by little. and why the flip does bad animation that gets fixed later ruin a series in the long run, that's like saying digimon would fail because of bad animation, its ridiculous.... I mean you guys never faulted road to ninja for bad animation but its somehow different when its dbz? that's stupid. and of course goku would struggle, its in his character, he's not meant to be limitless like superman, if he was people would not like him as much anymore, I think that superman vs goku 2 death battle explained that pretty well. goku is about surpassing limits.

Edited by ultranx, 21 December 2015 - 02:27 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I can't deal with this anymore
new image from calendar
wtf happened to this series ?
I want my old sasuke back NOW

Saitama's voice: Oh...

That's actually fan art.

[Toasty Warrior]

What Kishimoto and Studio Pierrot are doing to the series:

 

-Milk that cash cow-

[Bail o' Lies]

Saitama's voice: Oh...

That's actually fan art.

Proof that fan art is better and more accurate then that pedophlile's work.

[DeathGodMack]

I hope they make my new ship cannon. SaradaxSakura is the best ship ever.

[redrose3443]

Saitama's voice: Oh...

That's actually fan art.

I was wondering if that was the case. Cause I've seen many pictures like that on tumblr, but I wasn't too sure, since I was viewing the image on a small screen.

[MagicalNgro]

Nothing has changed. Sakura is still acting like a twelve year old girl and Sasuke still doesn't care about either of them. It's just so pathetic lol.

SS is the most tragic thing about this whole ending. The maddening thing about NH was that it just had no development whatsoever and was just forced on us with a nonsensical ending and an abominable movie.

But SS is a whole nother ballgame. Sasuke has consistently, without fail, rejected and marginalized Sakura's very existence. Right before his final battle with naruto, sasuke wrote off her feelings as ridiculous and questioned the logic in her caring about him, much less him caring about her.

And we're supposed to believe that's a ship? Inside i weep for Sakura's self respect

Edited by MagicalNgro, 21 December 2015 - 07:05 AM.

[Bail o' Lies]

SS is the most tragic thing about this whole ending. The maddening thing about NH was that it just had no development whatsoever and was just forced on us with a nonsensical ending and an abominable movie.

But SS is a whole other ballgame. Sasuke has consistently, without fail, rejected and marginalized Sakura's very existence. Right before his final battle with naruto, sasuke wrote off her feelings as ridiculous and questioned the logic in her caring about him, much less him caring about her.

And we're supposed to believe that's a ship? Inside i weep for Sakura's self respect

Well now we know why it happened, and who it was really was for Mr. That Pedophile. He wanted nH to happen so he could finally write his (most likely) masturbatory mess of a fanfic story and kishi shrugged and paired the spares cause he wanted to do something else with his life.

[Bail o' Lies]

You know what everyone? I'm actually kind of glad this manga is happening because now I know why the ending happened the way it did. It no longer a question that hangs over my head. Where i go 'what were the reasons it happened?' I now know and now i no longer care. Ah it so relaxing. I don't care about Itachi's stupid anime. I don't care about the stupid filler. I don't even care about this stupid manga other than the artist is now to me known as 'that pedophile.' It not me throwing my hand up in the air and saying "i don't care anymore this kitten is stupid and crap." It a realization, a discovery, and then finally a release because of an understanding i have been searching for and have finally obtained. *relaxed sigh*

[Shadow1275]

In a word:

 

[tricksie]

Eh, I can't even muster the...anything to be irritated about the new series. Not even surprised. All along, I wondered if this was the route they were going to take. Now it's just a confirmation. Nothing more. I'm not excited, curious or even disappointed. It just is the real reason behind the bait-and-switch manga ending.

 

The up side to a new manga series — the only up side — is that as long as Boruto is generating interest, there is also hope that they may one day revisit the original manga and release a NS ending. "The True End." It's almost like Kishi named that chapter as a place for them to come back to in the future. Anyway, the longer the interest remains in Naruto, the more likely we are to one day see an NS ending. So hurrah for Bolt! Here's to it one day being revealed as a giant genjutsu! 

[yimiiyumi]

The up side to a new manga series — the only up side — is that as long as Boruto is generating interest, there is also hope that they may one day revisit the original manga and release a NS ending. "The True End." It's almost like Kishi named that chapter as a place for them to come back to in the future. Anyway, the longer the interest remains in Naruto, the more likely we are to one day see an NS ending. So hurrah for Bolt! Here's to it one day being revealed as a giant genjutsu! 

I really don't get what you mean

could you explain please ?

[tricksie]

I really don't get what you mean

could you explain please ?

If the endng didn't generated sales, if the novels didn't sell, if the movies flopped, if there was no interest at all in Boruto...then they would shelve the Naruto franchise and never look back. It would be over. 

 

But it's clearly not. It's still a moneymaker. People are still interested in the series. The fans are still there. And if they really are going to go back and resurrect Itachi and his story for an anime, then it shows that fans are just as interested in the original series as they are in the next gen. So the creators (Kishi and whoever owns the rights now) are going to continue to cater to the fans until there is no more interest left.

 

And if Bolt doesn't do so stellar, but Itachi really bolsters the fan base, it's easy to think that they might go back to the original manga and stretch out the story some more. 

 

Honestly, I could care less about the Next Gen kids. But if they went back and built a series around Kushina and Minato, I'd definitely check it out! And it's easy to think that if interest still ran high in the old characters, that they might want to revisit the NS aspect of the manga as well.

 

So that's what I mean: As long as Bolt is going, there is still money to be made from the fandom. And as long as there is still money to be made, then there's a chance (no matter how slim) that we could one day see either more NS or even a full blow alternate ending. 

 

One thing's for certain: If the Naruto franchise was on a shelf collecting dust, there would be no hope of ever getting a shot at a "True End." At least with the continuation of the franchise there's still a sliver of a chance.

[yimiiyumi]

If the endng didn't generated sales, if the novels didn't sell, if the movies flopped, if there was no interest at all in Boruto...then they would shelve the Naruto franchise and never look back. It would be over. 

 

But it's clearly not. It's still a moneymaker. People are still interested in the series. The fans are still there. And if they really are going to go back and resurrect Itachi and his story for an anime, then it shows that fans are just as interested in the original series as they are in the next gen. So the creators (Kishi and whoever owns the rights now) are going to continue to cater to the fans until there is no more interest left.

 

And if Bolt doesn't do so stellar, but Itachi really bolsters the fan base, it's easy to think that they might go back to the original manga and stretch out the story some more. 

 

Honestly, I could care less about the Next Gen kids. But if they went back and built a series around Kushina and Minato, I'd definitely check it out! And it's easy to think that if interest still ran high in the old characters, that they might want to revisit the NS aspect of the manga as well.

 

So that's what I mean: As long as Bolt is going, there is still money to be made from the fandom. And as long as there is still money to be made, then there's a chance (no matter how slim) that we could one day see either more NS or even a full blow alternate ending. 

 

One thing's for certain: If the Naruto franchise was on a shelf collecting dust, there would be no hope of ever getting a shot at a "True End." At least with the continuation of the franchise there's still a sliver of a chance.

If they back to ns then how you think this would happen ?

I really don't see something like a divorce happening 

what do u mean by "more NS" ?

Edited by yimiiyumi, 21 December 2015 - 03:49 PM.