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[MoonDrop04]

 
I got a new idea for a revision version of The Last; the idea being instead of Toneri, I would want to use someone who's awakened the Rinnegan and wishes to destroy humanity, seeing them unfit to survive after what they didm, and thinking he is the reincarnation of the Sage of six Paths.

Hmm I don't know........wouldn't it seem kind of repetitive to use a similar idea as "The Last" storyline for our own??

How bout instead of the Sage of six paths we go with something that the two of them are more familiar with that can be used as a villain or antagonist........like the dark hatred of the nine tails power and the return/re-creation of Dark Naruto with his own body. Eventually Dark Naruto fused himself with the ultimate power of the 9 tails hatred and becomes a new powerful entity and Naruto and Sakura work together to finally put an end to these "demons" of their lives for good.

Would that work out for you?? Lol

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Hmm I don't know........wouldn't it seem kind of repetitive to use a similar idea as "The Last" storyline for our own??

How bout instead of the Sage of six paths we go with something that the two of them are more familiar with that can be used as a villain or antagonist........like the dark hatred of the nine tails power and the return/re-creation of Dark Naruto with his own body. Eventually Dark Naruto fused himself with the ultimate power of the 9 tails hatred and becomes a new powerful entity and Naruto and Sakura work together to finally put an end to these "demons" of their lives for good.

Would that work out for you?? Lol

 

I do see whatcha mean as a possibility. I just was thinking it could be an interesting thought. I just am feeling burnt out from the epilogue, though I am also trying to work on my own story too.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Also had the idea of explaining things. I think if we had to change things, I'd say from the beginning of Naruto and Sasuke's final fight, then move it on from there.

[Metalhead87]

Sorry I haven't had much time either to post anything on here due to Christmas, working, New Year's Eve and day planning and etc. T_T lol

The main reason why I think it would be best to do it mainly in fanfiction format and not entirely all of it in digital comic/manga form is because of the differences of time consuming each bring to the table.

-digital comic/manga format is great in looks, appeal and detail but each page takes a considerable amount of time to create due to the artists skill and personal schedule. At best if we were to make one chapter (let's say a limit of 15 pages) it would be done in 2 months at best. We are trying to compete against Kishi's/SP version of part 3 with our own. That means we have to be already 3 steps ahead of them before they debut that way we can stand a chance against their superior experience in this type of work, and doing it with digital comic/manga format ain't gonna cut it.

-fanfiction format is just simply rough drafting the basic storyline of the current chapter, re-editing it with extra details to make it flow more into the overall storyline and then finishing it up with a final draft of the chapter. That won't take but 1-3 days at best with a writers personal schedule interfering with the work. If we were to do it this way and start working on it in late January then by the time Kishi/SP part 3 debuts we would already have maybe over 30 chapters complete (3 volumes at best).

It's basically taking a strategy from shikamarus handbook. We will be matching Kishi/SP's superior quality with superior quantity of chapters already published before they do.

Though I can understand your concern about it not attracting much if we do it just in Fanfiction format. So previously I stated in order to solve that problem I suggested we still do digital comic/manga format but only one page within each certain amount of fanfiction format chapters portraying key moments within that particular part of the story. Basically we write 10 fanfiction format chapters for a total one Volume worth of chapters. Within that volume there will be at best 5 digital manga/comic pages included in to portray certain moments of the volume. This way the readers will be attracted with the digital art and continue reading on in fanfiction format to reach to the next digital art.

But if you are still not convinced I came up with another suggestion to add with what I just stated.
With each volume we publish online we will add a small digital databook to go along with it. Within the databook it will illustrate the characters within that volume. Their current stats, techniques and backgrounds. Also sketches of what the characters look like so the readers will have an idea in their head of what's goin more clearly in the story. Also the databook will include other aspects such as sketches of ninja equipment and the area or terrain that they are currently at within the volume.

It would be best to place the databook at the end of each volume that way once the reader is done reading the volume and are confused on some parts within the story they can go to the databook and look up what they didn't understand and read back to connect the dots. This way they will be more engrossed with the story without even realizing it and soon come start to love it like an actual published series.

That's all I got for ya so far man!!! XD

 

I can see where you're coming from. It's just a concern I had and thought I should bring up 

 

Besides, perhaps there's a way that we could do both. We could write our ending and Part 3 in fanfic format to begin with, if the majority agree that it would be best to do so, and then we can figure out how to make a manga adaptation of it. That way, it won't matter so much if it takes a bit of time for the manga version to come out since they will still be able to read the events that happen, and then some time later they can have it in sequential art format too.

[MoonDrop04]

Also had the idea of explaining things. I think if we had to change things, I'd say from the beginning of Naruto and Sasuke's final fight, then move it on from there.

Hmmmm maybe.......honestly I was expecting Naruto and Sasuke's fight to go out like the final battle of the anime "Scryed". Watch it I recommend it!!!

But instead we got huge explosions, a neon genesis evangelion looking Susanno and a beat down of bloody proportions........that last part did get me pumped though when I read it!!! lol

[MoonDrop04]

 
I can see where you're coming from. It's just a concern I had and thought I should bring up 
 
Besides, perhaps there's a way that we could do both. We could write our ending and Part 3 in fanfic format to begin with, if the majority agree that it would be best to do so, and then we can figure out how to make a manga adaptation of it. That way, it won't matter so much if it takes a bit of time for the manga version to come out since they will still be able to read the events that happen, and then some time later they can have it in sequential art format too.

Yeah I agree with you because I've been thinking the same thing. Once we get the series popular enough maybe we can hold a popularity contest of certain chapters the readers and audience likes the most and whichever is the most liked will become a full fledged digital manga/comic . That will get the readers their attention for sure lol

[ichigo500]

Guys, can someone sum up for me what has been decided during the past week here ?

[MoonDrop04]

Guys, can someone sum up for me what has been decided during the past week here ?

LMFAO XD Hardly Anything!!!!! Hahahahahahahahahahaha

But but there are reasons for that and it's mostly because the past week has been busy for everybody due to the holidays so we couldn't do much lately lol. But now things are starting to pick up again a lil bit just look back at the previous page and start from there and you should be caught up with what we are trying to decide!!! XD

Edited by MoonDrop04, 01 January 2015 - 02:43 PM.

[ichigo500]

LMFAO XD Hardly Anything!!!!! Hahahahahahahahahahaha

But but there are reasons for that and it's mostly because the past week has been busy for everybody due to the holidays so we couldn't do much lately lol. But now things are starting to pick up again a lil bit just look back at the previous page and start from there and you should be caught up with what we are trying to decide!!! XD

hahaha okay, I see !then I'll try to catch up i a few days if I can after my exams :)

[MangaReader]

The new plan is the old plan for me... don't give two kittens what other people think

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Yeah, though I am also tempted to draw some other kids if anyone wants to come up with names and ideas, since I drew Jiraiya and Haruka, Naruto and Sakura's son and daughter.

[Metalhead87]

I have a quick question regarding Kaguya. Bearing in mind that she is a part of the Naruto story, for better or ill, I was wondering what we were going to do about that. Would it be better to move on and never focus on her again, or to build up her character, clan etc. for use later on in some way? I find the idea behind her interesting, but her role in the story was mishandled. Could we fix this in some way too, and would we want to? That's what I'm asking, I guess.

 

Also, did we talk about the possibility of expanding upon the Uzumaki clan? They were pretty tied in with the Senju, right? That could be explored. Could even be an interesting bonding point between Naruto and Tsunade, discovering or confirming that they have a familial connection of some sort (I don't recall if such a thing was ever mentioned). Regarding the Uzumaki clan, though, we still have no clue as to what the deal is with the chakra chains that both Kushina and Karin can manifest. What does this revelation mean? Is it a common ability among Uzumaki clan members, or perhaps female Uzumaki only? Is it unique to a particular family branch within the clan that Kushina (and perhaps Karin) were a part of? If this last point is or could be the case, then how closely related are Naruto and Karin? They definitely need to meet and have some real interaction.

 

I don't remember if this was brought up already, but I like the idea of Naruto and Tsunade paying tribute to Jiraiya in some manner. I can picture, say, Naruto at the shrine he made for his mentor, telling him about what has happened, perhaps saying that his dream is getting closer more than ever. Tsunade finds him and sits down beside him and the two share some stories, laughing as they reminisce. Naruto apologises for his words back before Pain invaded. Jiraiya was important to her too, and it wasn't fair of him to act like he was the only one hurting. Tsunade reveals that she has a flask of sake and two cups, pouring one for him and herself. The two share a drink in the man's memory (Naruto comically spluttering from the burn and swearing to never drink again) before walking back to the village, leaving the bottle behind in front of the shrine. Who knows, maybe they leave the cups behind too, and a toad approaches and takes a sip.

 

I'm not describing it very well lol, but I think a scene along those lines could provide a nice bonding moment between the two that I'm not sure I can recall them really having before.

Edited by Metalhead87, 08 January 2015 - 12:51 PM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I have a quick question regarding Kaguya. Bearing in mind that she is a part of the Naruto story, for better or ill, I was wondering what we were going to do about that. Would it be better to move on and never focus on her again, or to build up her character, clan etc. for use later on in some way? I find the idea behind her interesting, but her role in the story was mishandled. Could we fix this in some way too, and would we want to? That's what I'm asking, I guess.

 

Also, did we talk about the possibility of expanding upon the Uzumaki clan? They were pretty tied in with the Senju, right? That could be explored. Could even be an interesting bonding point between Naruto and Tsunade, discovering or confirming that they have a familial connection of some sort (I don't recall if such a thing was ever mentioned). Regarding the Uzumaki clan, though, we still have no clue as to what the deal is with the chakra chains that both Kushina and Karin can manifest. What does this revelation mean? Is it a common ability among Uzumaki clan members, or perhaps female Uzumaki only? Is it unique to a particular family branch within the clan that Kushina (and perhaps Karin) were a part of? If this last point is or could be the case, then how closely related are Naruto and Karin? They definitely need to meet and have some real interaction.

 

I don't remember if this was brought up already, but I like the idea of Naruto and Tsunade paying tribute to Jiraiya in some manner. I can picture, say, Naruto at the shrine he made for his mentor, telling him about what has happened, perhaps saying that his dream is getting closer more than ever. Tsunade finds him and sits down beside him and the two share some stories, laughing as they reminisce. Naruto apologises for his words back before Pain invaded. Jiraiya was important to her too, and it wasn't fair of him to act like he was the only one hurting. Tsunade reveals that she has a flask of sake and two cups, pouring one for him and herself. The two share a drink in the man's memory (Naruto comically spluttering from the burn and swearing to never drink again) before walking back to the village, leaving the bottle behind in front of the shrine. Who knows, maybe they leave the cups behind too, and a toad approaches and takes a sip.

 

I'm not describing it very well lol, but I think a scene along those lines could provide a nice bonding moment between the two that I'm not sure I can recall them really having before.

 

Nice idea with Naruto and Tsunade, though I could also see Tsunade telling Naruto there is no reason to apologize, since she could tell he knew she was hurt too, but he was suffering more vocally.

[Metalhead87]

 

Nice idea with Naruto and Tsunade, though I could also see Tsunade telling Naruto there is no reason to apologize, since she could tell he knew she was hurt too, but he was suffering more vocally.

 

Thanks! That's a good point you bring up - I forgot to mention anything from Tsunade's side in that part lol

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

Thanks! That's a good point you bring up - I forgot to mention anything from Tsunade's side in that part lol

 

No prob, Metalhead, 'cause I know it can be. :) And besides, I was thinking she knew how Naruto felt, and Naruto knew how she felt, he just was pissed at the idea of Jiraiya dying as well as the thoughts he had of Tsunade sending him off to his death, and also how he told Iruka he couldn't have Jiraiya there to see him become Hokage or see him be cool and stuff.

[Metalhead87]

I'm trying to think of something for Hinata. It would be quite nice if Hanabi and her could have a scene. Seeing how she's always admired Naruto and been inspired by him, how hard he tries and the way that he gets up every time he's knocked down, I was thinking she could maybe declare her intent on trying harder to become the leader of the Hyuuga Clan. This could also be a good time to tie in Neji's sacrifice, and have that reaffirm her desire to change the way of the clan, and to unite them under one banner. Hanabi could give Hinata a smile, and extend her hand which Hinata accepts, signifying the beginning of a friendly sibling rivalry to become the leader. May the best woman win, kind of thing.

Edited by Metalhead87, 13 January 2015 - 11:00 AM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I'm trying to think of something for Hinata. It would be quite nice if Hanabi and her could have a scene. Seeing how she's always admired Naruto and been inspired by him, how hard he tries and the way that he get's up every time he's knocked down, I was thinking she could maybe declare her intent on trying harder to become the leader of the Hyuuga Clan. This could also be a good time to tie in Neji's sacrifice, and have that reaffirm her desire to change the way of the clan, and to unite them under one banner. Hanabi could give Hinata a smile, and extend her hand which Hinata accepts, signifying the beginning of a friendly sibling rivalry to become the leader. May the best woman win, kind of thing.

 

I was trying to think of something like that too, as well as showing Hinata not needing to be clingy to Naruto, given she seems to hint before the dumbass retcons in The Last that she knew Naruto was in love with Sakura, given how she smiled when Sakura hugged Naruto, so everything with the fact of Sakura claiming Naruto loved her due to his rivalry with Sasuke as well as trying to get Hinata with Naruto... yeah, that's a load of crap. I keep wondering too about how to handle Naruto's moment with Sakura when he finally lets go of the fact he thinks she doesn't love him and confesses. I got a rough idea, though I may want to post it up when I can.

 

 

If for some dumb reason we did use elements of The Last for an idea, I did want to have Sakura like this, since this is actually in character! And the fact she DOES love Naruto, even if others tried to convince her otherwise and same with Naruto trying when she confessed to convince her otherwise just because he wanted to keep his promise to her, even if he claimed he wanted to also save Sasuke for himself, which is a load since it was ALWAYS about his promise.

[MoonDrop04]

YO GUYS!!! IM BACK!!! XD sorry I was sick for most of the past several days so I wasn't able to post anything for awhile. But I'm good as gold now XD so what have you guys cooked up while I've been out???

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

YO GUYS!!! IM BACK!!! XD sorry I was sick for most of the past several days so I wasn't able to post anything for awhile. But I'm good as gold now XD so what have you guys cooked up while I've been out???

 

Had an idea of a scene when Naruto properly confesses to Sakura, as well as considering one of Sasuke taking off with Taka after he and Naruto expel the Infinite Tsukuyomi.

[MoonDrop04]

 
Had an idea of a scene when Naruto properly confesses to Sakura, as well as considering one of Sasuke taking off with Taka after he and Naruto expel the Infinite Tsukuyomi.

I got a good handle of how to deal with both scenarios X) but you go first, or should I??