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[narusaku256]

hmmm . let me make my self clear . ramen i thought u were a fair person . why didnt u add this to what i said ((.or at least the way you view and feel narusaku .isnt that strong . cause neither naruto nor sakura are your favorite characters..) and i admit i was wrong by saying  that if u favor sasuke cant be fan to narusaku . and i said it cause i thought that the person who favor sasuke want the best to sasuke . even in romance . and i only thought of sakura . and i forgot about karin and i forgot . that maybe sasuke fans are like him do not care about romance. at least for sasuke in this manga.  .. and i can see that u are a sasuke fan .if u like him as a fighting style its ok cause as darkest said . the best fights are sasukes fights and my favorite is his fight with itachi and bee. . . but if u like sasuke as a character and a personality  as it presented in the manga till the last chapter. then we are on 2 different paths .. and with all my respect to everyone who likes sasukes personality . but their way of thinking and viewing the life  has some wrong with it .and it effecting their real life.. and after all every one has all the right to like and choose what they want . but that doesnt mean that there is no right and wrong in life.. and i apologize if i offended anyone .it was a fast thought and i was wrong about it.

I think...Ramenanmitsu was joking and he really did not mean it. I could be wrong though...

[only Naruto]

That is some bizarre logic. You do know there are plenty of people who like Sasuke for things not related to pairing? So they can enjoy NaruSaku as much as an NS fan whose favourite charcter is Naruto / Sakura. And then there are plenty of SasuKarin, SasuHina, shippers who like Sasuke and also like NS.

yes  you are right .  am wrong  about sasukes fans are not narusaku fans  .. it was a fast thought which i didnt think  much about it  clearly . and i thank you for correcting me  . and i took my lesson  to think of all the things first and then write.  

[only Naruto]

I think...Ramenanmitsu was joking and he really did not mean it. I could be wrong though...

no he was serious cause he is a sasuke fan . and he kinda has the right to.  because honestly my idea had no sense   lol . so thats ok .. we are debating  .  and thanks for trying making me feel good . .

[narusaku256]

no he was serious cause he is a sasuke fan . and he kinda has the right to.  because honestly my idea had no sense   lol . so thats ok .. we are debating  .  and thanks for trying making me feel good . .

Eh? How did I make you feel good?

[only Naruto]

Eh? How did I make you feel good?

lol . i said trying i didnt say u did..  . and btw  u should have noticed by now that my english isnt that great ..so if u didnt understand my point sometimes . just  excuse my language.

[narusaku256]

lol . i said trying i didnt say u did..  . and btw  u should have noticed by now that my english isnt that great ..so if u didnt understand my point sometimes . just  excuse my language.

Ah! Don't mention it . Language is not a problem though. It is great that you accepted your mistake and you are willing to work on it . 'Your mistakes will turn you into the man you'll be tomorrow IF you are willing to accept and correct your mistakes that you did today'. Sorry for being so deep and philosophical but if you don't mind....try remembering this...will help you a lot! But I think you know this already

[Princess Iris]

Well I like that slogan. It is very cool for me.

good pj....
I forgot to laugh

[ramenanmitsu]

hmmm . let me make my self clear . ramen i thought u were a fair person . why didnt u add this to what i said ((.or at least the way you view and feel narusaku .isnt that strong . cause neither naruto nor sakura are your favorite characters..) and i admit i was wrong by saying  that if u favor sasuke cant be fan to narusaku . and i said it cause i thought that the person who favor sasuke want the best to sasuke . even in romance . and i only thought of sakura . and i forgot about karin and i forgot . that maybe sasuke fans are like him do not care about romance. at least for sasuke in this manga.  .. and i can see that u are a sasuke fan .if u like him as a fighting style its ok cause as darkest said . the best fights are sasukes fights and my favorite is his fight with itachi and bee. . . but if u like sasuke as a character and a personality  as it presented in the manga till the last chapter. then we are on 2 different paths .. and with all my respect to everyone who likes sasukes personality . but their way of thinking and viewing the life  has some wrong with it .and it effecting their real life.. and after all every one has all the right to like and choose what they want . but that doesnt mean that there is no right and wrong in life.. and i apologize if i offended anyone .it was a fast thought and i was wrong about it.

First of all, I was joking.
Secondly, I don't understand much what you're saying here.
Third, "and with all my respect to everyone who likes sasukes personality . but their way of thinking and viewing the life  has some wrong with it .and it effecting their real life"
Geez. Thanks. I'll go see the therapist tomorrow.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 22 July 2014 - 04:28 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah, I don't write something offensive to a fan. As a group, I wouldn't say I would write one but I can be like "why the hell SS fans are so frustrated to talk to when they think win the whole war?!" but even then, I don't usually write much on them.

[natalieuciha]

hmmm . let me make my self clear . ramen i thought u were a fair person . why didnt u add this to what i said ((.or at least the way you view and feel narusaku .isnt that strong . cause neither naruto nor sakura are your favorite characters..) and i admit i was wrong by saying  that if u favor sasuke cant be fan to narusaku . and i said it cause i thought that the person who favor sasuke want the best to sasuke . even in romance . and i only thought of sakura . and i forgot about karin and i forgot . that maybe sasuke fans are like him do not care about romance. at least for sasuke in this manga.  .. and i can see that u are a sasuke fan .if u like him as a fighting style its ok cause as darkest said . the best fights are sasukes fights and my favorite is his fight with itachi and bee. . . but if u like sasuke as a character and a personality  as it presented in the manga till the last chapter. then we are on 2 different paths .. and with all my respect to everyone who likes sasukes personality . but their way of thinking and viewing the life  has some wrong with it .and it effecting their real life.. and after all every one has all the right to like and choose what they want . but that doesnt mean that there is no right and wrong in life.. and i apologize if i offended anyone .it was a fast thought and i was wrong about it.

what the hell is this guy talking?is it something wrong with being a sasuke fan? dude you're full of bs

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

@only Naruto:

There is nothing wrong with being a fan of Sasuke. My favorite characters are Naruto and Sakura and I ship NS, but I don't hate Sasuke. I actually like him, he's one of my favorite characters, and I ship him with absolutely no one.

You don't have to not be a true fan of a character just because you ship or don't ship something. It's the same with the characters in the ship not being your favorite. You could still be just as much as shipper as someone who did.

[only Naruto]

Ah! Don't mention it . Language is not a problem though. It is great that you accepted your mistake and you are willing to work on it . 'Your mistakes will turn you into the man you'll be tomorrow IF you are willing to accept and correct your mistakes that you did today'. Sorry for being so deep and philosophical but if you don't mind....try remembering this...will help you a lot! But I think you know this already

thanks.the advise accepted 

[only Naruto]

First of all, I was joking.
Secondly, I don't understand much what you're saying here.
Third, "and with all my respect to everyone who likes sasukes personality . but their way of thinking and viewing the life  has some wrong with it .and it effecting their real life"
Geez. Thanks. I'll go see the therapist tomorrow.

ok . my bad . but your joke made me feel that i offended u .thats why i had to explain my myself . . well my english isnt that great so sometimes i have to repeat my self.. and about the third not of yours .lol .  look ramen . ill tell u something . am just saying that the story of naruto  .gives us a message. . about right and wrong. .. the characters who present the good side naruto  , sakura jiraya  hasirama ect. and the characters . madara sasuke . ex obito . orichimaro.  . so when i view the manga with the fighting style / battles  i like sasuke  more than my favorite character naruto . cause kishi made sasuke fights so amazing . . and here we both agree . right ? but when i view in the right or wrong . things . i dont like sasuke . cause kishi made sasuke the bad side . at least until now . so when someone tells me that he likes how sasuke act and his personality. i feel something isnt right . i say . its either me or or that person . wrong.? do u understand me ramen . this how i see the things . and if am wrong . ill be happy if u correct me really . cause maybe my view on the manga and real life are the wrong one .  .  and no i didnt mean to go to the thereby  (why are u making me feel guilty  . lol. if am wrong please just tell me . . cause when it comes to right or wrong i remove my pride .. and again my apology if i offended u or anyone . cause really this was not my intention at all .am just saying how i feel and think ..and if it was /wrong/ stupid . ill be happy if someone corrects me .

[only Naruto]

what the hell is this guy talking?is it something wrong with being a sasuke fan? dude you're full of bs

i hope . u read my latest post to ramen and see what i meant before attacking me. . you could have told me  you are so wrong without any bad words . like romance girl . anyway . i know u have your angry mode . so no hard feelings .  and if am wrong please show me the truth.

[only Naruto]

@only Naruto:

There is nothing wrong with being a fan of Sasuke. My favorite characters are Naruto and Sakura and I ship NS, but I don't hate Sasuke. I actually like him, he's one of my favorite characters, and I ship him with absolutely no one.

You don't have to not be a true fan of a character just because you ship or don't ship something. It's the same with the characters in the ship not being your favorite. You could still be just as much as shipper as someone who did.

first of all . thanks for your style about telling someone he is wrong .. i dont hate sasuke at all . but my point is . when it comes to personality and right or wrong . is it so wrong of me to see sasuke as a wrong person at least till now in the manga . and to think that the people who likes sasuke even though kishi presented him to us as a bad character (until 680). might be wrong too. about viewing the story or how they see the wrong and right..? i hope u see how i meant what i said . and maybe am the wrong one viewing it like that . thats what i want to know . 

and i dont hate sasuke  i dont like what he has done and his believes and way of thinking ((until now and when he changes them . ill be ok . ami wrong  about this? i mean idont like his actions and his personality  because of the right and wrong the message of the story not because of the pairing shipping .

[narusaku256]

first of all . thanks for your style about telling someone he is wrong .. i dont hate sasuke at all . but my point is . when it comes to personality and right or wrong . is it so wrong of me to see sasuke as a wrong person at least till now in the manga . and to think that the people who likes sasuke even though kishi presented him to us as a bad character (until 680). might be wrong too. about viewing the story or how they see the wrong and right..? i hope u see how i meant what i said . and maybe am the wrong one viewing it like that . thats what i want to know . 
and i dont hate sasuke  i dont like what he has done and his believes and way of thinking ((until now and when he changes them . ill be ok . ami wrong  about this? i mean idont like his actions and his personality  because of the right and wrong the message of the story not because of the pairing shipping .

I always thought that liking of characters is all a matter of preference and choice! I am sure Ramen knows what is right and what is wrong. He likes Sasuke doesn't mean he acts like him in real life. Its just a matter of opinions really! There are some villains which you simply can't hate. Like...Joker? I have many friends who like him. Does it make them like him? No. It is plainly a matter of choice. At the most you can relate to characters and nothing else. Doesn't mean that their outlook on life is like that. They 'just' happen to like him/her. Take my example. I like Obito because I can sympathize with him. So does it mean that my outlook on life is like him? No. It is just preference and relating at the most, nothing outside that! But this is just ny thought though....

Edited by narusaku256, 22 July 2014 - 06:37 PM.

[Iwantbuns]

first of all . thanks for your style about telling someone he is wrong .. i dont hate sasuke at all . but my point is . when it comes to personality and right or wrong . is it so wrong of me to see sasuke as a wrong person at least till now in the manga . and to think that the people who likes sasuke even though kishi presented him to us as a bad character (until 680). might be wrong too. about viewing the story or how they see the wrong and right..? i hope u see how i meant what i said . and maybe am the wrong one viewing it like that . thats what i want to know . 

and i dont hate sasuke  i dont like what he has done and his believes and way of thinking ((until now and when he changes them . ill be ok . ami wrong  about this? i mean idont like his actions and his personality  because of the right and wrong the message of the story not because of the pairing shipping .

 

I actually agree with you. Sasuke has done a lot of bad things to deserve the hate he gets. But all characters are different. Sasuke might be a bad character, but he also used to be a good one. Sasuke is a complex character, and I think Kishi is trying to show that even after all the things Sasuke has done, he is capable of being saved. The whole show revolves around Naruto and Sakura trying to get Sasuke - their comrade - back. Sasuke was a close friend of theirs, and to see him fall more and more into the darkness would kill them both. Sasuke has the potential to be a strong and heroic character, but his choices in life lead him strictly towards the other direction.

 

I think the reason why people like him, is because he's an interesting character. But definitely not a character you'd want to be in the same room with... He's a bad person. He's a criminal. He's disrespectful. But he does have a heart. He was a very loving kid, when he had his family. When he lost his family, that caring part of him was gone. The only people who brought that side out of him again, was Naruto and Sakura. And that's why they want to be there for him. 

 

I understand why people would dislike him. I also understand why people would like him too... Honestly I'm pretty neutral about his character. Some days I like him, some days I don't, and some days I don't care... In the end, he's just a fictional character. Everyone has their opinions, and we should respect all of them ^^

[only Naruto]

I always thought that liking of characters is all a matter of preference and choice! I am sure Ramen knows what is right and what is wrong. He likes Sasuke doesn't mean he acts like him in real life. Its just a matter of opinions really! There are some villains which you simply can't hate. Like...Joker? I have many friends who like him. Does it make them like him? No. It is plainly a matter of choice. At the most you can relate to characters and nothing else. Doesn't mean that their outlook on life is like that. They 'just' happen to like him/her. Take my example. I like Obito because I can sympathize with him. So does it mean that my outlook on life is like him? No. It is just preference and relating at the most, nothing outside that! But this is just ny thought though....

ok i see your point . i have to go now . so when i get back ill reply to u . but u made a good point. 

[only Naruto]

 

I actually agree with you. Sasuke has done a lot of bad things to deserve the hate he gets. But all characters are different. Sasuke might be a bad character, but he also used to be a good one. Sasuke is a complex character, and I think Kishi is trying to show that even after all the things Sasuke has done, he is capable of being saved. The whole show revolves around Naruto and Sakura trying to get Sasuke - their comrade - back. Sasuke was a close friend of theirs, and to see him fall more and more into the darkness would kill them both. Sasuke has the potential to be a strong and heroic character, but his choices in life lead him strictly towards the other direction.

 

I think the reason why people like him, is because he's an interesting character. But definitely not a character you'd want to be in the same room with... He's a bad person. He's a criminal. He's disrespectful. But he does have a heart. He was a very loving kid, when he had his family. When he lost his family, that caring part of him was gone. The only people who brought that side out of him again, was Naruto and Sakura. And that's why they want to be there for him. 

 

I understand why people would dislike him. I also understand why people would like him too... Honestly I'm pretty neutral about his character. Some days I like him, some days I don't, and some days I don't care... In the end, he's just a fictional character. Everyone has their opinions, and we should respect all of them ^^

thanks for seeing my point of view . . i really have to go now . catch u later . 

 

p.s. when i see someone has a wrong idea or way of thinking . i respect them but i dont agree with them . nor am trying to force my opinion on anyone. .

[BakeNeko-Chan]

first of all . thanks for your style about telling someone he is wrong .. i dont hate sasuke at all . but my point is . when it comes to personality and right or wrong . is it so wrong of me to see sasuke as a wrong person at least till now in the manga . and to think that the people who likes sasuke even though kishi presented him to us as a bad character (until 680). might be wrong too. about viewing the story or how they see the wrong and right..? i hope u see how i meant what i said . and maybe am the wrong one viewing it like that . thats what i want to know . 

and i dont hate sasuke  i dont like what he has done and his believes and way of thinking ((until now and when he changes them . ill be ok . ami wrong  about this? i mean idont like his actions and his personality  because of the right and wrong the message of the story not because of the pairing shipping .

 

Liking a character who does bad things doesn't have anything to do with the person's ability to distinguish between right and wrong. I like plenty of morally gray and downright 'bad' characters, simply because I find them interesting (though Sasuke isn't one of them), but that doesn't mean I agree with or condone their actions. I know right from wrong, and the characters I like have no effect on my moral compass.