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#141 Inferno180

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:19 PM

Sasuke isn't going to be good until the end until the N/S fight  so what you are telling me is Sakura realizes all of that in an instant and NS happens in the end . Sasuke being good is not needed for her to realize that she doesn't love him  or that she loves Naruto she should  figured this out on her own by the way they interacted previously  and it doesn't help that Kishi is playing with the NS moments leaving them out unfinished or skipped them .  Not to mention how stupid this is bc he make Sasuke do 360 I don't care now I care when later I'm gonna try kill Naruto this is sh**ting on what he wrote chapter ago and like all the negative stuff won't matter bc now he cares  its bs writing .

 

Firefox, the "moment" at the end wasn't a full blown SS one, I mean we don't even know what will happen so soon yet,

 

not to mention did you miss what chatte said, that in the middle Obito was referring to Sakura helping Naruto by doing this? She isn't doing it because some fans are just going on it to generalize it for SS. And how did Sasuke do a complete 180 from all the prior negativity? Nothing is erased unless Sakura just completely forgets about the mistrust. Sasuke didn't even react to her, just looked upon, no emotion, no reaction to her, we just need to wait until next time to see what could occur again. The problem here is you act like kishi is just going to throw NS out and make SS canon when, it would be kitten writing if this happend but there wasn't anything to clear her negaivity with sasuke was there? We knew from chapters prior despite this negatvity she still saw him as a friend and its not going to go full 180 here and there to points where we had events like in 675 she was still noted to no longer love him

 

The biggest deal over this is, Sasuke himself, he isn't going to just love Sakura and return the feelings when he was never even impacted by it, he doesn't even need to love others at this point. Him thanking sakura isn't the end of the world but it doesn't solve everything for SS. I mean look what happened to NH, they though they were canon and well, look at the junk that fell on them, missing out a critical naruto moment with sakura getting time with him (663) and NS just has much more development over SS. There are still plenty of problems SS has and things NS has that can make it go canon. I mean just remember, NS is the only pairing hinted for the end so far with a preexisting foreshadow.

 

SS still remains the least likely because Sakura has changed and continues to change between them. I mean even obito said it himself, Sakura wants to help naruto in his path, she didn't know what this meant but many smart fans will given just 30 chapters before. SS wont occur as love instantly, it wont make sakura go back to sasuke like everything was rendered undone.

 

Naruto and Sasuke will still fight, do you honestly think she is going to support sasuke over naruto in ideals when we already know who she wants to be hokage? If Sakura is getting her resolution with Sasuke, getting over it in part is she knows the reasons to love naruto and not sasuke but she needs to be complete with herself, have her maturity in overcoming this. The negativity isn't gone in one blow, its still a matter of she doesn't trust him but still needs him to help naruto.

 

NS is still the most likely, nothing has rendered it undone, the other deal with sakura on sasuke, sasuke isn't just back to caring, he is still the same, though he is an ass he isnt going to be heartless, even though he was willing to let them fall into the lava, we knew there would be some interaction but its not going to solve everything and turn it all around, it doesn't exactly help NH when Hinata cannot get anywhere right now and besides, naruto still loves sakura.

 

Nothing was rendered undone or pointless from before, this will still have its purpose, I mean for all we know next chapter he could even completely ignore Sakura and not say anything and just have obito say lets go or they just reappear. So calm your jets, if you feel like this okay, but don't be upset, the whole deal of Obito even saying Sakura is doing this in reference to naruto is a reason that we can say goes in line with 663, she has some bigger focus on him unlike sasuke where she has always been unsure in other cases. Nothing exactly happened at the end aside from sasuke standing next to her, nothing was said to her, only an exchanged glance, sasuke didn't smile, he didn't speak to her, he didn't thank her, just talked to obito about how he got to them in time. Though some SS fans are going nuts, they make the same BS that existed years before with him secretly loving her to now claiming he is starting to love her when this was the same guy who was willing to let them die just a few minutes ago. See, SS logic? Its not going to work and Sasuke certainly wont go doing that. Sakura has since sasuke left, had a constant changing view between naruto and sasuke and while narutos is fine and grew the most to the most likely to become a mutual relationship, hers with sasuke is still in tatters and needs repairs, even just a thankyou or getting back on the old level is enough for her. Her own feelings are said to be changing too, remember its like the whole logic of 631, why would kishi be hinting NS if it was dead? Why would he purposely "end" NS just to then put a pairing foreshadow in only 20 chapters later and make the woman giving the foreshadow refer to a girl like her with sakura being like that? It would make no sense. The deal in this one is he isn't going to pull any 180s, Sasuke certainly still hasn't changed, we need to see the reactions of Sakura and if Sasuke even thanks her.

 

Because if it goes on with "Sasuke doesn't care at all even when I helped him" then what would this tell you? Then that negativity would continue and Sakura would move in another direction. We need to see her reaction and if sasuke even thanks for this. We need to see what happens beyond this too. But its still nothing big for SS, just one netural moment, in an entire sea of bad occurrences, that stuff isn't going to vanish unless you want truly bad writing, the deal with all of this would be in part, in these ordeals yes Sakura would have come to see it was naruto who saved, cared for, and encouraged her in these times and stood by her. But all deals aside no matter how it turns out, NS is still the most likely and SS is still in last, one moment does not rectify or undo everything else even just a few chapters before. Sakura can still end liking sasuke as a friend, but not a lover when he himself has no purpose at this point to even return any feelings.



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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:19 PM

http://www.mangaread...t/naruto/685/15

I really liked this NS moment. Remined me of this. -> http://www.mangaread...hapter-297.html

It is subtle, but thats what I like about it.

 

Also, Sakura was trully impressive in this chapter.



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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:20 PM

it’s impossible to deny the eye smex. It’s too strong :(

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:21 PM

can somebody stop talking about that fuken obirin parralel ?..i feel like im gonna puke..we're sititng here taking damage control after ss interaction andthe best  we  can hope is paralelz? makes us look like complete fools..ughhh



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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:23 PM

I'm surprised to see you guys comparing this to 615. That was basically an entire chapter of handholding  in front of a massive audience along with romantic internal thoughts from Hinata. This was a 1 page 0 dialogue moment.

 

 

Slug sage mode.

If Sakura had that power she would have used it already. Besides, even if she did have that power it wouldn't make sense because it's impossible for people without a naturally massive chakra supply to use sage mode.


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:23 PM

if kishi makes ss canon, this troll king will have to explain all the bullsh** and ns hints he has shown us so far: chapter 631,the moment with yamato hinting at sakura's feelings,the moment with sai,all these kittening moments will be demanded to be explained..i think he is on kitteniing crack lately or like ive expected ,he might starting to fall for the majority..in this case he is a sh*tty author and i wont read any future mangas from him ever again

 

if kishi makes ss canon, this troll king will have to explain all the bullsh** and ns hints he has shown us so far: chapter 631,the moment with yamato hinting at sakura's feelings,the moment with sai,all these kittening moments will be demanded to be explained..i think he is on kitteniing crack lately or like ive expected ,he might starting to fall for the majority..in this case he is a sh*tty author and i wont read any future mangas from him ever again

i agree . if he made ss canon .its really  bad writing. not because am an NS fan really  but because the way he made  ss till now is unhealthy  and i mean there wasnt even  one  hint that sasuke might have romantic feelings for sakura.. like he gave us hints that sakura might fall for naruto .. so its not even reasonable . . :no: . without  even mention that NS are the best developed pair .in the manga. 

 

and for this chapter . i think it would have been much worse if kishi didnt give us the hint in 675 about sakuras feelings changed. .thats why i think kishi knows what he is doing . :yes:



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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:27 PM

I should comment this:

I'm glad that the Hokages are being held off for later time, though maybe Hagoromo is telling them a very long story that Hashirama might be eating popwood, Tobirama being so focus, Hiruzen might be thinking how long that pole can extend, and Minato thinking what to do once he goes back to afterlife and meet Kushina. The reason why I'm happy is because it seems like we are stalling for a full blown brawl since this is chapter 6 and we are getting things out of the way. This is like a long buildup for what's to come. Almost approaching to the end of the volume as well as end of the possible theme, which I don't know yet but I noticed Naruto gets praised in different forms, including Jiraiya's reference. Not to mention Sasuke still seem focus on Naruto with chakra talk. I don't know what amount to, but we will know soon enough.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:28 PM

I told you SS would have sand sex.


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:29 PM

I'm surprised to see you guys comparing this to 615. That was basically an entire chapter of handholding  in front of a massive audience along with romantic internal thoughts from Hinata. This was a 1 page 0 dialogue moment.

Who comment that? I think the main thing is the follow-up. Some say this is scary, some say this is good. I got a lot to say soon.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:29 PM

Slug sage mode.

She will get it in the next arc.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:32 PM

Hashirama might be eating popwood

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:32 PM

I'm surprised to see you guys comparing this to 615. That was basically an entire chapter of handholding  in front of a massive audience along with romantic internal thoughts from Hinata. This was a 1 page 0 dialogue moment.

 

 

I'm just comparing the shippers reactions, not the chapter itself, lol.


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:34 PM

 

I'm just comparing the shippers reactions, not the chapter itself, lol.

Same. It more like how the fandom took a very simple thing and overblew it out of proportions and made this huge racket over nothing. This is basically the SS equivalent.


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:35 PM

The SS fandom right now LOL

 

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:35 PM

It's not as freaking as some people react but we can't deny those eyes panels and the fact that Kishi does like to kitten with the pairings, even tho' he isn't going out the NS route... but he does like to kitten things-up, excuse my language. Otherwise, besides the big panel, one thing I don't get, is the eye-interaction...


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:37 PM

First, her forehead protector

 

Next, one of her sleeves

 

And now her vest...

 

Kishimoto, why are you stripping my baby Sakura bit by bit?

 

are they gonna collect those later on?

 

Just a crazy prediction, after the war or whatnot Sakura will get lost in the dimensions

 

Then Nardo and friends will look for her finding bit and pieces of her things.

 

lol a spinoff just kidding..



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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:38 PM

it’s impossible to deny the eye smex. It’s too strong :(

 

And it could always have no result too, what if sasuke doesn't even thank her? Its a possiblity as well but I wouldn't concern myself with it, I mean Sakura did all this for naruto, isn't that a stronger notion of something? Obitos mention of helping naruto on his path is coming from what kakashi told him in 655. Sakura is helping naruto for hokage and other deals in his path, she didn't understand what he said but the audience sure could. Its also been how many chapters in this manga since sasuke gave a single care? The majority of the manga, he isn't going to outright love her nor is sakura going to completely revert, look its not a massive upset for us or a great bonus to SS when it still has plenty of issues to address and it just cannot be a reasonable pairing at this point, sakura isnt going to revert, forget everything in the last few minutes and just disregard naruto, no.

 

If I had to say something, do you really suspect it would be that easy? I mean did you really suspect like NH in 615 that it would just occur and be solved so simply when there are now unlike back then in 615 still plenty of things hinting NS and cases where she may just return the feelings? The mistrust is still there and is the negatvity, not gone until the issues are resolved. Nothing happened with the "moment" I wish people would calm down on this, most of us handled this deal fine, cause well, nothing happened, SS fans can shout their brains out it doesn't change the fact not much occured and there wasn't even a thank you or reaction from sasuke to her, only a staredown, for all we know he could still even not thank her and just move on and cause something negative again, I mean just think if that happened, this is sasuke we are talking about, he could do it again or he could have one act of at least thanking her, neither renders SS canon and erases all this stuff from recent chapters. Things are not going to be so easy for any pairing to just go full canon like the snap of a finger, I mean even at this point, yes Sakura has feelings for naruto but the extent is not fully clear, espcially when we got moments like 663 showing she may care for him beyond just friendship.



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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:40 PM

Black Zetu's advice comes off as orders with each passing chapter. I smell something fishy lol.


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:40 PM

Can I get someone to clarify the translation in the last page?

Mangapanda has it as: This time it worked...

Mangastream has it as: But thanks to you, I made it.

 

The difference here is actually pretty important. If Sasuke is thanking someone that has actual meaning and can be interpreted as Sasuke acknowledging Sakura's power. That's definitely a step in the right direction but only if that's the correct translation.


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:42 PM

@Inferno: the deal isn't about that, is about how Kishi likes to screw-things-up. Even moreso, with all the things you've listed, doesn't make sense... And not to mention but... aesthetically speaking, when did we had the last NS interaction that beautifully drawn?


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