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#141 RamenBlossom

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:32 AM

Btw, did Kaguya just use Evening Elephant against Naruto during their short duel? And also are Naruto and Sasuke sort of 'connected' now because we get a panel of Naruto getting blown by Kaguya's punch and then he says, "Sasuke...now" meaning they were waiting for opportune moment and they had a plan. Is it like that?

From the beginning, since the Land of Waves Arc, the manga showed us that they did not even have to talk to be able to understand the other's intention on fighting the enemy, like when they fought Obito together. I believe it was the same concept, they know what the other one will do without having to actually talk about it. Atleast that is what I believe.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:33 AM

lol are you kidding me? Naruto said he understand where Sasuke was coming from but he still was going to act to save them no matter what. Naruto will always care for them. 


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:33 AM

How are you going to explain Sakura's disappointed face then? It had nothing to do with Sasuke's words at the moment, but everything to do with Naruto's reactions after what Sasuke said. And Naruto's reaction was, "I understand." 

How do you explain Naruto's grimace face when Sasuke explains he only saved them cause they were next to him? Just because Naruto understands the reason, doesn't means he agrees to it. Sakura's reaction is taken out of context when he explains what he feels on the next page. Naruto never ever believes a friend is useless


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:35 AM

From the beginning, since the Land of Waves Arc, the manga showed us that they did not even have to talk to be able to understand the other's intention on fighting the enemy, like when they fought Obito together. I believe it was the same concept, they know what the other one will do without having to actually talk about it. Atleast that is what I believe.

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:37 AM

Yes, he did. It's clear when you see Sakura's face when he agreed to Sasuke.

 

Edit: It's also part of the reason why I'm so surprised with this fandom, acting as if this chapter was positive for NS, just because Kishi repeated the anti-SS, like always. To me, it was one of the biggest anti-NS moments. Well, that's just my opinion. 

 

I didn't see it that way. Maybe I need to re-read it later.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:39 AM

How do you explain Naruto's grimace face when Sasuke explains he only saved them cause they were next to him? Just because Naruto understands the reason, doesn't means he agrees to it. Sakura's reaction is taken out of context when he explains what he feels on the next page. Naruto never ever believes a friend is useless

Naruto's grimace can be explained because Sasuke bluntly told the truth that he doesn't care to protect Kakashi and Sakura, even if it means their death.

 

If he never believes a friend is useless, he would have replied so. Instead, he explains why he will protect Sakura and Kakashi regardless of what Sasuke is saying. He didn't care to add his own opinion to Sasuke's statement other than, "I understand." This is agreement no matter how you look at it. 


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:41 AM

I see some people are divided by the deal of what occurred with sakura, but for a moment can we all just say how great it is, that no matter the views, it's like Kishi just keeps emptying lead into the dead corpse of sasusaku at this point?

No seriously after seeing this moment this just breaks the convection of anyone having the argument of Sasuke actually even trying to do good, he only saved them because they were next to naruto and he needs narutos power to stop Kayuga. Sasuke just doesn't care at all.

The point with naruto though, even if they are not of any help in the battle. He is simply saying while even if he agrees they could not do much, just abandoning them is basically going against one of the most important things he learned, to never abandon a comrade, I mean remember when Kakashi told them about using teamwork? Yes that's what I am getting from here, naruto is sticking to what he learned best even in the situation, he isn't just going to abandon the both of them and just fight, remember naruto is just a guy who protects those important to him,

While it does seem dumb to keep having sakura lament over Sasuke not caring, it's another to be glad that she thanks naruto for the save. Bent remember, if what we believe is happening, then this is just part of that gradual shift from her turning away from Sasuke and towards naruto. Really that scene right there, that was the scene that stabbed the hearts of many SS fans today, even if you say there is something ns inclined or not, the fact remains, sakura is getting around Sasuke at this point.

As for the powerups well it's a fight, not a major reveal since hagoromo could float. Did this chapter also confirm Madara died since the chakra rods vanished or is he simply suppressed by kagyua? The edo hokage are moving out to help team 7. Kakashi got a quick save in sakura and Kakashi which was nice as well. In this chapter though, it seems that now sakura and kakashi will be put in a safe place, but still it doesn't rule out sakura not doing something, I mean you can count on kagyua trying to beat naruto and Sasuke into submission and sakura has to have some event in the fight since she is there by all means, I mean she wouldn't be put there with the rest of the team just to continually lament over Sasuke not caring and having only one attempt from fighting Madara, something else will happen for her and maybe it will come at a later chapter this year but in the closer timeframe, she should have something when the time is right,

Still I just cannot believe it, Kishi has shown no mercy to sasusaku, he is shot the hell out of it, now it's just a red mess in the ground he decides to continually blast with buckshot. That's what it's like, it's like Kishi you already killed it, and he just keeps loading more shots after more shots to just keep double tapping it like it was a zombie or something, like making sure it is absolutely dead after events like 540 showing she loved him but was saddened by it,

Good news is though sakura did thank naruto and naruto doesn't care about their powers or limits this fight, he simply saved them because he is the good guy, that's who he is,

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:42 AM

Btw guys, the translation in the link sort of applies that Naruto was planning on protecting himself when IT happened, but because he cared much for Sakura chan and Kakashi sensei his body moved on its own to protect them. Is this true?

 

Here's the link: http://readms.com/r/naruto/680/2407/9


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:42 AM

Sasuke definition of useless means unworthy of saving... he doesn't care what happens to Sakura and Kakashi because he deems them as unnecessary. Even at the slightest chance Naruto thinks Sakura and Kakashi aren't suited to this battle, he clearly doesn't deem them as useless because he keeps going out of his way to keep them safe. That's why I will continue to disagree with the ridiculous notion that Naruto believes Sasuke is right about Sakura and Kakashi


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:43 AM

Yes, he basically said they're useless in this battle. Naruto agreed with Sasuke. Although you also have to take in consideration the fact that Naruto kisses Sasuke's ass. And whatever Sasuke says or does, Naruto will support him and worship him.

 

How are you going to explain Sakura's disappointed face then? It had nothing to do with Sasuke's words at the moment, but everything to do with Naruto's reactions after what Sasuke said. And Naruto's reaction was, "I understand." 

 

In a sense, yes. She should be grateful. 

 

She has too high expectations of Sasuke, and it's really odd, considering she believes he should care for her, when she herself outright tried to deceive him to kill him. All the murder attempts Sasuke has done towards Sakura, was initiated by Sakura herself. And she expects a guy she tried to kill, protect her and care for her? Be real. 

At first Sakura thought that Naruto agreed with him that is why she was shocked because that is not Naruto but in the next page Naruto refutes that by saying i understan what you are saying but my body moves on its own basically Naruto disagreed with Sasuke in here plus his expression itself tells you this not to mention how OOC is for Naruto to agree with Sasuke on this when the chapters before this he was lashing out on him for calling them useless . Oh well @Mangareader beat me to it .  

 

I will also say this again 

 

 I have to disagree with the general opinion that Naruto agreed that Sakura and Kakashi were useless that's not what he meant , what Naruto said is that he acknowledge that him and Sasuke are the Key Element to Kaguya's demise and that he understood why Sasuke "saved" Sakura and Kakashi that it was because of him that is why he said "I Do" . Naruto acknowledging that him and Sasuke are the answer to Kaguya's defeat doesn't mean him acknowledging that Sakura and Kakashi are useless if that was the case he wouldn't have been saying things like teamwork plus Naruto was pissed at Sasuke   .   


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:52 AM

The mangastream translation is quite different from mangapanda's... wth. stop this.

Anyway. So does everyone think the place they're at is her homeland? If it is, good, cause I was curious about it. I hope we learn more soon.

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:53 AM

Sasuke definition of useless means unworthy of saving... he doesn't care what happens to Sakura and Kakashi because he deems them as unnecessary. Even at the slightest chance Naruto thinks Sakura and Kakashi aren't suited to this battle, he clearly doesn't deem them as useless because he keeps going out of his way to keep them safe. That's why I will continue to disagree with the ridiculous notion that Naruto believes Sasuke is right about Sakura and Kakashi

It was clearly stated that the reason why he keeps going out of his way to keep them safe is because his body reacts on his own. The reason for Naruto saving them has nothing to do with whether he thinks they are useless or not. 


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:55 AM

Guys, I think it's more than just "you're useless"

I think what Sasuke was insinuating was that should it come to it, let them die. That was what he was getting at when he said 'understand'? Naruto was affirming that he understood what Sasuke was getting at--and he understands that it's important that the two of them don't die and do whatever it takes...

 

BUT, in situations where people he loves (despite whether or not they can do anything in the situation) his body will move on its own... something that Sasuke once understood, having done it himself. 

 

That makes Sakura's shock all the more understandable. She knows she can't really do anything here, and while Naruto before was like 'teammwork!' I think the gravity of the situation isn't lost on anybody. Sure it hurts that they're not of help--and I don't really blame Sakura or Kakashi for it at all, in fact I'm far more interested in them than Naruto and Sasuke for it. I think what was more shocking and frightening was to hear that if it came to it, they'd be a sacrifice.

What Sasuke is saying is true--between Kakashi and Sakura dying over Naruto and Sasuke's chance to save humanity, of course they should be 'sacrificed'. They can't contribute, and they can't risk being burdens to the two that can do something. Still, relief that Naruto can't just cast them aside... of course she'd be grateful.

 

Like others, I really felt for Sakura this chapter. I don't want to see it continue like this--I want her to do something. She's amazing, but she's always being compared against really unfair odds. The only thing I wish is that she'd stop coming to expect anything of Sasuke. That guy isn't worth it. I'm so looking forward to this fight being over and having him hightail it away from Team 7, away from Konoha, off with Karin whom he doesn't deserve at all, and do his own thing. Get his toxic presence away--I don't care if you're reincarnated brothers the SasuNaru bond has sucked so bad all Part 2. 

 

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:55 AM

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I don't know, since the outside is still noon. It could be kaguya home or some random volcano or mabe moon.

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:57 AM

I had an idea on how the Hokages could get to Team 7, Obito, and Kaguya. I think that Minato gave Kakashi a couple of his kunai in an earlier chapter, I could be wrong, or because Obito is there with the FTG on his back, once the Hokages end up all together, the 4th and 2nd can FTG the 1st and 3rd to where Obito is, even if they are in Kaguya's homeland. 

 

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:57 AM

Hmm...right now,im more interested at seeing the insight of kaguya's palace. I bet that she will go there after she finishes her business and sitting on her thrown like a boss, no, a goddess. Oh yeah...
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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:59 AM

The whole point was not about Naruto 'agreeing' with Sasuke. The point was you should save your friends just on instinct, not based on how "useful" they are to you.

By using Sasuke's own past actions as an example, Naruto has effectively proved Sasuke isn't the same.
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Posted 11 June 2014 - 07:59 AM

It was clearly stated that the reason why he keeps going out of his way to keep them safe is because his body reacts on his own. The reason for Naruto saving them has nothing to do with whether he thinks they are useless or not. 

It's just a term in complex code that means he cares for them... What Naruto did was try to remind Sasuke he was like that in the past by reciting the same line from the past


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 08:00 AM

Btw guys, the translation in the link sort of applies that Naruto was planning on protecting himself when IT happened, but because he cared much for Sakura chan and Kakashi sensei his body moved on its own to protect them. Is this true?

 

Here's the link: http://readms.com/r/naruto/680/2407/9

 

I think what Naruto wanted to say that he can't abandon friends, showing it from Sasuke's point of view and saying that he did the same once


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 08:02 AM

I knew the only reason Sasuke saved Sakura and Kakashi from the IT was because they were right next to Naruto. He's not going to go out of his way to save them in situations like that when he has enemies to fight and doesn't really care about them at this point in the first place. I don't know how anyone took Sasuke's comment as a surprise. *cough* SS fans *cough*

 

Sasuke still being an amazing a**hole as usual. And I'm not sure what to think about that SN moment. The closest thing I can think of is Naruto was making some back-handed comment not only on how he will always rush to save his friends even if they could get in the way, but Sasuke does care a little for Naruto somewhere inside and Naruto knows it. He doesn't only rush to protect Naruto because he's useful or because he wants to be the one to kill him (though those are main reasons too ofc).

 

As usual, Sasuke pissed me off again and Naruto was being a little bit insensitive by saying Sakura and Kakashi couldn't do as much even if it was true. It's one thing when Sasuke does it, but when it's Naruto it irks me no matter how true it is; Sakura cares so much about being useful, y'know? It'd be really hard for her to see Naruto of all people actually semi-agree with Sasuke.

 

As for Sakura's reaction when Naruto "agreed", I'm not sure if she was just shocked that Naruto wasn't chewing Sasuke out or actually hurt by what he was saying.

 

This chapter was boring. Can't even enjoy Team 7 or SasuNaru because of frickin' Sasuke. Naruto being a little insensitive. Sasuke being an ass (as usual). And Sakura doing nothing and being reduced to being rescued by Kakashi again instead of standing on her own.

 

Overall, I'm not that fond of this chapter. Hope the next one's better.


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