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[narusakurama]

Apparently there's been some speculation that Kakashi might have finally lost the vision in his Sharingan. One of the panels from the recent chapter depicts his eye without their usual three tomoe.

 

There's been efforts to discount this - that it's just an artistic error and that Kakashi's Sharingan hasn't actually burned out. The fact that Obito's Sharingan is seen active in later panels, with its Mangekyou design no less, implies that both eyes are still usable. It stands to reason that for a pair eyes that are visually and mentally linked with one another, if one of the eyes were to lose function, the other would too.

 

So there's a strong possibility that Kishi just had a visual lapse. But I thought it'd be worth mentioning since it does bring up an interesting scenario where Kakashi has to adapt to his shinobi role without the doujutsu that has carried him through most of his career. 

 

Normally , seeing as  Itachi was almost blind from overusing his MS , Obito should have gone blind some time ago . I mean , every time he phases out he is actually making use of his MS , right ? That would mean Obito used his MS a lot more than Itachi and  it would be normal for his eyes to be affected .

[sushi.]

I wonder why Kishi made her question all this. ^ And not just on one panel, just count how many questionmarks you saw from her in this chapter. x) Maybe she's just curious, but..

 

I heard from chatte on tumblr that Kaguya is a cherry blossom princess and wields a knife similar to one Sakura had on a cover pre timeskip. I hope Sakura will play a key role in this war.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

I certainly enjoyed this chapter.  It gives resolution to Obito.  You have Madara reestablishing what the two of them have been striving for.  He gave the usual "this world is hell" speech, even going as far as reminding him that he can still be the savior.  Hearing him talk, you really see a new side of Madara, actually trying to re-persuade Obito to come to his side.  He really considers Obito just another him:  someone who lost everything.  He really did entrust everything to Obito, even with his revival.  It was Obito who really was going behind Madara's back, with not planning to revive him.  Of course, when Madara said "you are Madara!", when we had a chapter before called "I am Obito Uchiha" you know basically what was going to happen, but I can't help but feel a little pity for Madara.  It's obvious whatever Obito is going to do will fail, but from Madara's speech, you can tell he really did put his trust in Obito to fulfill his dream.  That's not to say I didn't enjoy Obito coming full circle this chapter, because I am glad that happened.  Also, even if Obito's attempt fails (which is most likely), it doesn't mean it might not have set up another opportunity.  I'm really looking forward to what happens.  Considering we aren't seeing Sasuke at all now, he might just show later healed, along with Taka, Orochimaru and the barefooted person later.  That's if we continue not to see what's happening on his end.

 

About transferring Yin half to Naruto, I say it could either way now.  When you think about it, they are not out of the woods.  Obito may have regained some control, but it's obvious he can barely move.  Black Zetsu is fighting to regain complete control.  Madara seems to pinned for the moment, but that won't last.  We have to remember two major thinks.  Black Zetsu is keeping Obito alive, and right now Black Zetsu is Yin Kurama's Jinchuuriki.  Meaning once Yin Kurama is extracted, Black Zetsu will lose all chakra and die soon after, and with him gone, Obito will die too.  We have to consider that Minato is really the only one that can extract and seal a Bijuu, but he has no more arms to make hand signs.  It's safe to assume Madara's attack is the same erasing Ninjutsu that Obito could do.  Not only does he need someone act as a proxy for him, but that also in itself requires more time to do.  Also, since Madara and Obito basically can't move right now.  Gaara will have move Naruto close to them to the Yin half sealed in, because it does require actually contact with the person, proven by Black Zetsu as he had to get between Minato and Naruto to steal Yin Kurama in the first place.  Bringing Naruto closer to them is a bad idea, as that it puts both him and Sakura in danger of getting attacked by Madara or Black Zetsu.  We can't leave Black Zetsu out.  Even if Obito has somewhat regained control, Black Zetsu necessarily hasn't lost all control.  With his stretching ability, Naruto and Sakura are not safe.  Even if they all have this already what I'm guessing already minutes to do all that.  There is no guarantee Madara won't intercept during the transfer as he is right there, as well.  Like I said, it can go either way.

 

Looks like Minato's been... disarmed! Skidoosh!

 

 

I don't get Po's catchphrase though.

 

Obito's going to die. He'll transfer his power back to naruto in his last moments, make a narusaku obirin parralel while hes at it and then we can have Sasuke and Naruto fight madara, otherwise whats Hashi's jutsu gonna be used for.

 

I don't think Sasuke accepted it.  When Madara impales him, he specifically said he gave Sasuke "ample time", meaning he knew Sasuke was waiting for an opening for awhile.  When Sasuke gets that opportunity, he just makes an attempt to attack from above.  No preparations for a jutsu were made.  It fits along with his character to not accept help from a Senju or a the "old" generation.

 

Anyone else notice that BZ is receding on Obito? 

 

He used some of BZ to make that staff at the end.

 

Wait don't you need to like be absolutely for a little bit in order to gather natural energy and stuff?? Or is Minato too cool for that?

 

He was just standing still for awhile after Madara arrived.  He had enough time to gather natural energy.

Edited by DattebayoXShannaro, 19 February 2014 - 09:49 PM.

[FireFox]

 

Ah it completes well what I've found.

 

The bolded part is really interesting. It links more Naruto and Sakura together if it's true ^^

Although, it seems to be a different story :

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Konohanasakuya-hime, (木之花開耶姫, 木花咲耶姫 or 木花開耶姫, Konohananosakuya-hime), in Japanese mythology, is the blossom-princess and symbol of delicate earthly life. She is the daughter of the mountain god Ohoyamatsumi.^[1] She is often considered an avatar of Japanese life, especially since her symbol is the sakura (cherry blossom). Kono-hana is also the goddess of Mount Fuji and all volcanoes.

Kono-hana is the wife of the god Ninigi. She met him on the seashore and they fell in love; Ninigi asked Oho-Yama, the father of Kono-hana for her hand in marriage. Oho-Yama proposed his older daughter, Iwa-Naga, instead, but Ninigi had his heart set on Kono-hana. Oho-Yama reluctantly agreed and Ninigi and Ko-no-hana married. Because Ninigi refused Iwa-Naga, the rock-princess, human lives are said to be short and fleeting, like the sakura blossoms, instead of enduring and long lasting, like stones.

Kono-hana became pregnant in just one night, causing suspicion in Ninigi. He wondered if this was the child of another kami. Kono-hana was enraged at Ninigi's accusation and entered a doorless hut, which she then set fire to, declaring that the child would not be hurt if it were truly the offspring of Ninigi. Inside the hut, Ko-no-hana had three sons, Hoderi, Hosuseri and Hoori.^[2][3]

Shrines have been built on Mount Fuji for Konohanasakuya-hime. It is believed that she will keep Mount Fuji from erupting,^[4] but shrines to her at Kirishima have been repeatedly destroyed by volcanic eruptions.

 

 

 

I feel the same as those japanese fans also LOL

 

 

 

 

I swear, I thought about Yamanaka clan too when Madara explains about communicate without talking ^^

But I think it's more about a connection like Naruto did with Kyuubi's chakra right ?

I don't get it how does it links NS more ? Isn't the Konohanasakuya story is used as a SS theory with Ninigi beeing Sasuke (Amaterasu grandson) or am'i wrong ? And how does Kaguya beeing Sakura and Naruto Hagoromo  helps NS  ? Can you  or @ramenanmitsu  explain this thanks .

[sushi.]

^I should've read the thread.

 

But this is really exciting, maybe it means Sakura will be relevant again soon.

[FireFox]

I wonder if there's a reverse to the move where you can just regenerate the missing parts of Edo. I mean Obito is face now, so I wonder.

Actually i think SM is the answer to it since it was proven that SM negates those powers , in the case of Obito though i think now that Minato is in SM now will restore his both arms i bet on this one being the case . 

[Kster95]

^I should've read the thread.

 

But this is really exciting, maybe it means Sakura will be relevant again soon.

 

Pumping Naruto's heart.....She is already relevant lol 

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I wonder why Kishi made her question all this. ^ And not just on one panel, just count how many questionmarks you saw from her in this chapter. x) Maybe she's just curious, but..
 
I heard from chatte on tumblr that Kaguya is a cherry blossom princess and wields a knife similar to one Sakura had on a cover pre timeskip. I hope Sakura will play a key role in this war.

Becuase she doesnt belong to that plot after all.
I dont know but Sakura is there listening to everything without unnderstanding what is going one, all the talk about hatred, SoP6 and etc... was never been her role.

[ramenanmitsu]

I don't get it how does it links NS more ? Isn't the Konohanasakuya story is used as a SS theory with Ninigi beeing Sasuke (Amaterasu grandson) or am'i wrong ? And how does Kaguya beeing Sakura and Naruto Hagoromo  helps NS  ? Can you  or @ramenanmitsu  explain this thanks .

What do you want me to explain?

About the mythology? What part would you like to know?

OR

How it links to NS? If you look at my post you will know I never said that so I have nothing to explain on that aspect.

[sushi.]

 

Pumping Naruto's heart.....She is already relevant lol 

I meant to the war. She is saving the world by saving Naruto, but I want more. All the other main characters, Kakashi, Sasuke and Naruto got individual roles in this war. She should not be the only exception.

[Shadow1275]

 

Normally , seeing as  Itachi was almost blind from overusing his MS , Obito should have gone blind some time ago . I mean , every time he phases out he is actually making use of his MS , right ? That would mean Obito used his MS a lot more than Itachi and  it would be normal for his eyes to be affected .

You're probably correct. But Obito did have several sharingan eyes in his possession. Perhaps he upgraded to EMS?

[melovechoco]

Yeah..what she said.

[FireFox]

What do you want me to explain?

About the mythology? What part would you like to know?

OR

How it links to NS? If you look at my post you will know I never said that so I have nothing to explain on that aspect.

Well you about the mythology part was Hagoromo a women  since you said it's a story about a celestial maiden , then how does that links to Naruto and how are Hagoromo and Kaguya connected in there since in Naruto they are mother and son ? The Konohanasakuya story and how is it linked to NS i see now that that was from @Otaru so i wanted her to explain that cus there is a SS theory about this ,  so sorry about that my bad i'm little sleepy  ,   

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 19 February 2014 - 11:36 PM.

[Inferno180]

With sakura still around, I doubt anything kaguya will be put on her, if anything I see the kaguya sage relation more like Kushina and naruto, powerful mother has a powerful son. But it's not to far out to suspect that if something narusaku/obirin could occur.

[ramenanmitsu]

Well you about the mythology part was Hagoromo a women  since you said it's a story about a celestial maiden , then how does that links to Naruto and how are Hagoromo and Kaguya connected in there since in Naruto they are mother and son ? The Konohanasakuya story and how is it linked to NS i see now that that was from @Otaru so i wanted her to explain that cus there is a SS theory about this ,  so sorry about that my bad i'm little sleepy  ,

The story of princess kaguya was derived from the Hagoromo legend of the celestial maiden. They have many stories of the Hagoromo legend depending on which part in Japan the story is told. The tale of Taketori is the most famous one of them all. I am saying that Kishi has most probably got the name of Kaguya Hagoromo from the Hagoromo legend and princess Kaguya from the tales of taketori.

[FireFox]

The story of princess kaguya was derived from the Hagoromo legend of the celestial maiden. They have many stories of the Hagoromo legend depending on which part in Japan the story is told. The tale of Taketori is the most famous one of them all. I am saying that Kishi has most probably got the name of Kaguya Hagoromo from the Hagoromo legend and princess Kaguya from the tales of taketori.

Oh i see now so Kishi has somewhat mixed those two , anyway thanks for the explanation . 

[TouKen4Life3g]

Actually i think SM is the answer to it since it was proven that SM negates those powers , in the case of Obito though i think now that Minato is in SM now will restore his both arms i bet on this one being the case . 

Hm, that could work. I just wait to see the next immediate action from Obito and Madara.

[Otaru]

 

But Hinata's Jutsu wasn't the point of the scene, her confession was the point so even if BZ taking Yin Kurama was the point that doesn't mean Kishi couldn't give a Name to the "Jutsu" he used.

 

 

If that wasn't a Sealing Jutsu that Obito used than that furthers my point that an actual Sealing Jutsu isn't needed and Yin Kurama could just be transferred to Naruto no jutsu needed.

 

I see what you mean.

I don't really agree though ^^'

I don't really have proof, it's just feelings and perceptions about the story.

 

You must be right I was wrong about many things those lasts weeks ^^'

 

We'll see ^^

Edited by Otaru, 20 February 2014 - 12:59 AM.

[sushi.]

With sakura still around, I doubt anything kaguya will be put on her, if anything I see the kaguya sage relation more like Kushina and naruto, powerful mother has a powerful son. But it's not to far out to suspect that if something narusaku/obirin could occur.

Other than both being the powerful mothers, Kushina and Kaguya don't have much in common. Maybe if Kishi made Kaguya more like her instead of Sakura, but that is not the case. :/

[Otaru]

I don't get it how does it links NS more ? Isn't the Konohanasakuya story is used as a SS theory with Ninigi beeing Sasuke (Amaterasu grandson) or am'i wrong ? And how does Kaguya beeing Sakura and Naruto Hagoromo  helps NS  ? Can you  or @ramenanmitsu  explain this thanks .

 

Oh it was just something I thought in a minute.

To me, as I said earlier, Sakura isn't involved in those "legend-things" or "prediction-things".

 

I just thought of something when ramennamitsu said Kaguya hime might be the same as sakuya hime you see ^^

I thought, oh if some legend inspired Naruto and Sakura then it could links them more ^^

 

It was just a quick thought ^^' sorry about it

 

But just after I verified on wikipedia, and it seems that Kaguya Hime and Sakuya Hime are not the same.

 

I don't know if this is really accurate, I only found this on wikipedia, so it might be all wrong since everybody can write on wikipedia.

I'm not a specialist in japanese legends.

 

Moreover, I think Sakura will stay away of all those legends and predictions because she's supposed to be a normal girl.

 

Is there really a theory about SasuSaku and this Sakuya hime legend ?

 

Also, I was surprised that we didn't get to see Naruto in limbo in this chapter.

I guess Kishi is keeping it for the very last moment.

Edited by Otaru, 20 February 2014 - 01:47 AM.