You have to remember that every single person in the Alliance was given that chakra, not just a select few people. The only ones who didn't have it by that point were Tobirama, Hiruzen, Madara, and Hashirama. Unless it's clarified that Naruto chose to siphon greater or lesser amounts of chakra to certain people then everyone would have received an equal quantity. Which balances out the appeal of the chakra and changes nothing about the willingness of the tree to preferentially single out a person that has the shroud. That is if you're only taking into consideration the bijuu's shroud and not their own personal reserves.
Naruto, Minato, Killer Bee, and Sakura would be the prime targets if the tree was factoring in both the availability of bijuu chakra and their own natural pools.
If this was the logic Kishi was abiding by then the tree should be hunting the zombies mostly since their reserves are "infinite" thanks to Edo Tensei.
Umm....duh? You don't need to remind of the stuff I already know about, but you just proved my point that whether or not Katsuya is there, it had no affect on whether they lived or died. So why blame Sakura at all? Like I said, you were the first one to bring this up here and the first to jump on it. Why? It makes no difference.
Like a mindless zombie, I see the tree just attacks a certain source of chakra that it can gather. KB proved that it focused on targets that are tailed beasts chakra which could explain why it went after some people and not others. Like a zombie that goes after animals. Sure it can eat animals, but it prefers humans and if it had the choice between humans and animals, it prefers the humans. Same concept for the tree.
So, basically, Sakura had no affect what so ever and they would have died regardless. It can even be argued that Naruto might have been the one to cause their downfall, but if Obito didn't do all this in the first place the war would not be happening. End of discussion.
It's not so much criticism as it is acknowledgement of the gripes people have and trying to assess if there's even a smidge of truth to anything they say. Much of the arguing stems from personal grievances, I'll admit, but it's not without purpose. In a way, I would argue that it's a dissection of her character. To try and assess what are valid perfections or faults.
When I say that her strength is "mediocre", I mean that in the same context as it being "par for the course". Because that's the level of strength which we see from most people with Kage level abilities (be it through ninjutsu, taijutsu, kenjutsu, genjutsu, ect.). When I argue that Sakura lacks the natural reserves of stamina and spiritual energy to handle Sage Mode, I consider what the manga has to say concerning it. I would like to believe that both of those arguments hold more validity and reason than any sort of belittling people make based off their own inherent hatred for her character.
Again, I don't hate Sakura at all. She's my second favorite character in the manga. But at the same time I'm not going to dismiss any perceived flaws just because I respect or hold her in high regard. But if those flaws are accurately refuted then that's all well and good. For what it's worth, the criticisms Sakura was receiving and Hinata's deification are the reasons I joined the forum in the first place.
Except you and a few others are the only ones really griping on this? I have said this thousands of times before and I will say it thousands of times again...maybe the reason why you view the stuff the way you do is because you are painting a picture that is not there. You know, like maybe you are doing it to yourself? You say you don't hate Sakura at all yet you are the first to point out her flaws, the first to blame her for stuff, and at times even supported or handwaved away Hinata's mistakes....remember the argument we had where no matter what I said you handwaved it and pushed Sakura to the ground kicking her in the dirt?
Yeah with all sentences beginning with the phrase "You have to understand..."
You say this, Atheck, but several posts I see you make are quite the opposite or even you are the one who brings that kind of grief in. Like I said, until you mentioned it, that kind of idea wasn't even on the table. Again, not just you, but several members and at times I have to question whether or not you are being too overcritical about things or too analytical. ("Thinking too deep" so to speak) I expect this from the NH fandom or something, but I see more and more happening here. People who claim to be Sakura supporters are saying the exact same things that the NH fans are saying. That doesn't really tell me people are Sakura fans when they bash her harder than NH fans do at times. And when you are confronted about it you deny it or say "It wasn't meant to be that way." Well I guess then maybe you should re-read what you type and make it sound a little better not to give out a weird impression. It's just a suggestion.
Perhaps for once maybe we can not point this kind of stuff out? Maybe for once we cannot not push pairing wars or stupid character criticism? Imagine if I did this with Hinata: "Oh look, Hinata is useless. She is supposed to be so great, but all she does is stand there. She can't even save herself. Useless character." Paragraphs and paragraphs of non-stop poking at every little detail on what she does wrong even though I am fully aware that in reality very few characters can put a dent in obito at the moment or even have a chance at it.
Criticism is about looking at the good and the bad, not just "point out everything she does wrong," bur everyday I see topics like "Nine-tails cloaks makes Sakura useless," "Sakura let people die," or "How can Sakura say she is as strong as Naruto and Sasuke." It's always one more topic on how bad Sakura is and then when something good does happen, I see the same people just shoot it into the ground: "It doesn't make sense. it's BS. It's rushed and Kishi just gave her power." Hell, in the Slug Sage mode thread I laid about several possible ways Sakura can gain Slug sage mode and not be BS and you still fought with me on it.
Even when I criticize Hinata I am still able to point out some good in her, but realize that the true really bad thing about her is not that she is a bad character, but that Kishi just uses her wrong and that maybe her own fans expect way too much of her.
So perhaps a better way to look at this is "Is the criticism warranted?" Did this particular criticism really need to be brought up? Does it add to the understanding of the character really or is it just nitpicking because we want something better? More often than not, I find the latter argument to be the most common. People want Sakura to be this certain type of character and put her on this high pedestal realizing that it is impossible to put Sakura on those kind of expectations especially when only Naruto is able to achieve such a level. Again, as I said a thousand times...why blame or criticize Sakura on something when only one character can do what you want them to do? Why criticize Sakura when Hinata can't get that high or Temari...or any other female cast? Standing back and really looking at how fans interpret this manga, some of you paint pictures that have nothing to do with the manga at hand and I have to say that some of you set yourselves up for disappointment. I know some of you have even admitted that because Sakura is your favorite you want the best for her, but again, you have to be realistic about this. You have to keep in mind how the rules work and apply it.
So I ask everyone, please before any more criticism gets thrown around really think on whether or not it is a true criticism and not just you (in general) nitpicking. It's really a bad habit as of late and it's hard for me to take some of this stuff serious anymore because of so much nitpicking. I can't even tell what's a true criticism and what is just people whining about how they didn't get what they wanted.
On a random note: I also wanted to bring up that comparing story elements from different manga, despite many telling me "You can't include/compare that. That is two different universes," that is what they call "reading comprehension." You used to do it all the time in middle and high school to compare and contrast story elements. In my Shakespeare class we did that with modern plays compared to Shakespeare. Comparing and contrasting story ideas with each other is a standard practice in reading techniques and writing techniques as well.
Edited by James S Cassidy, 17 September 2013 - 03:10 PM.
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And the Kage can just hang out in the background...yeah.
