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#141 ichigo500

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 11:06 PM

What do you guys think of Farneze? And Casca. I'm not talking about her being badass when she was still sane, but her devotion towards Griffifth etc.

Also, I kind of get mad when I read on forums posts that are bashing Casca. They call her a being kitten the way she treats Guts, say that she betrayed Gutts when she "enjoyed being raped by Griffith a bit too much." ( I mean, I understand the latter complaint, but I feel like she couldn't help it about feeling physically aroused? Mentally, I know she felt bad about what she was doing).

 

Casca had reasons to admire Griffith, since he saved her, as you said, she was devoted to him, he took care of her when she was all alone, plus she could only see his good sides, just as all the other members of the hawk... So I understand her choices. He used to treat her well, and respected her (unlike some other ship ahem ) 

About the rape thing, she wasn't master of her body, she was completely out, shocked, she couldn't react even if she wanted to. She wasn't completely aware of what was happening. I think people just want to insult her about that because they couldn't anything else to tell about her. 

She is a great character, even though she became weak later (I don't know how long she stayed like this because....I haven't finished reading it ) but, she always stood up against these men, and could fight, even though she was the only woman, she proved that, unlike what everybody else in their world thought, even a woman can be stronger than 100 men. She was struggling because of her tomboyish side, and the fact she wasn't feminine enough to attract Griffith, but at the same time, if she wanted to get rid of that side of hers, she wouldn't be able to stay by Griffith side. 

Plus, she had reasons to treat Guts like this, she disliked him first because of that bond between him and Griffith, she was also jealous, because after all these years, Griffith never "recognized" her the way he did with Guts. She disliked him for numerous reasons, and that was completely logic. 

That's personally what I saw in that character.

(edit: sorry if I've done some mistakes while writing ! ) 

As soon as I found out that Farnese was Serpico's half-sister, I was like:" Oh kitten, there's goes my ship." XD Jokes aside, that's some interesting dynamics the mangaka has established there.

Wait....WHAT ? 

I need to catch up on this manga, or I'll get spoiled eveything ! x) 


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Posted 05 July 2015 - 11:23 PM

That orgy was... not hot, lol.

Orgy?! Woah...o.o

 

 

What chapter you're in? Are you close to 300? :O


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Posted 05 July 2015 - 11:27 PM

Orgy?! Woah...o.o

 

 

What chapter you're in? Are you close to 300? :O

I wish, lol. Ch.191 right now.

 

... Honestly, orgies happen in Berserk quite frequently :sweat:


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Posted 05 July 2015 - 11:30 PM

I wish, lol. Ch.191 right now.

 

... Honestly, orgies happen in Berserk quite frequently :sweat:

Not that frequently, as I remember.



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Posted 05 July 2015 - 11:32 PM

Not that frequently, as I remember.

Well, if we don't count in the orgies dedicated to those weird beasts/animals spread throughout the manga.


Edited by trang95, 05 July 2015 - 11:39 PM.

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 11:45 PM

Well, if we don't count in the orgies dedicated to those weird beasts/animals spread throughout the manga.

Oh well. How did you like fight against 5 angels? 



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Posted 06 July 2015 - 11:35 AM

What do you guys think of Farneze? And Casca. I'm not talking about her being badass when she was still sane, but her devotion towards Griffifth etc.
Also, I kind of get mad when I read on forums posts that are bashing Casca. They call her a being kitten the way she treats Guts, say that she betrayed Gutts when she "enjoyed being raped by Griffith a bit too much." ( I mean, I understand the latter complaint, but I feel like she couldn't help it about feeling physically aroused? Mentally, I know she felt bad about what she was doing).

Casca is like how sakura should develop with shonen value.
I don't see her "enjoying" the rape, more like she already lose her mind. The event already broken her mind. Guts will fall into madness if he doesn't cling into his revenge.

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Posted 06 July 2015 - 01:54 PM

Casca is like how sakura should develop with shonen value.
I don't see her "enjoying" the rape, more like she already lose her mind. The event already broken her mind. Guts will fall into madness if he doesn't cling into his revenge.

Eh, but in the end both choose to stay where they begun.



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Posted 06 July 2015 - 03:59 PM

Eh, but in the end both choose to stay where they begun.

You mean casca choose to tend Griffith?

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Posted 06 July 2015 - 04:09 PM

You mean casca choose to tend Griffith?

Yes.



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Posted 06 July 2015 - 04:27 PM

Yes.

If I'm not mistaken, it get resolved between guts and casca. Guts doesn't mind it and casca has legit reason to do that.

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Posted 06 July 2015 - 04:30 PM

If I'm not mistaken, it get resolved between guts and casca. Guts doesn't mind it and casca has legit reason to do that.

It didn't got resolved as far as I remember.



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Posted 06 July 2015 - 04:35 PM

It didn't got resolved as far as I remember.

I think it did, when casca decide not to go with guts because she want to tend Griffith and guts accept that. And in one of the possible future shown by god hand to Griffith, it show that casca settle down with gritty and guts child.

Have Griffith doesn't torture like that, perhaps casca will follow guts.
Becoming a battle couple.

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Posted 06 July 2015 - 04:36 PM

I think it did, when casca decide not to go with guts because she want to tend Griffith and guts accept that. And in one of the possible future shown by god hand to Griffith, it show that casca settle down with gritty and guts child.

Have Griffith doesn't torture like that, perhaps casca will follow guts.
Becoming a battle couple.

And what of this is resolve? lol

She even forced him to live without her.


Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 06 July 2015 - 04:41 PM.


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Posted 06 July 2015 - 04:44 PM

And what of this is resolve? lol

That casca will tend Griffith, so she doesn't follow guts and guts accept it.


This is not about who casca choose right?

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Posted 06 July 2015 - 04:48 PM

That casca will tend Griffith, so she doesn't follow guts and guts accept it.
This is not about who casca choose right?

Go and re-read this moment, Gutts never accepted it



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Posted 06 July 2015 - 04:49 PM

Go and re-read this moment, Gutts never accepted it

Well, I tought he accept it.
I will read it againt.

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Posted 06 July 2015 - 04:51 PM

 

This is not about who casca choose right?

Doesn't it? Saying that she is Sakura done right, but the result it the same  :confused:

 

Well, I tought he accept it.
I will read it againt.

88th chapter, or ch 3 of volume 12.



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Posted 08 July 2015 - 12:34 AM

 

 

Doesn't it? Saying that she is Sakura done right, but the result it the same  :confused:

 

88th chapter, or ch 3 of volume 12.

 

 

I understand why she did that though

 

So I don't really see how the "result is the same"


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Posted 08 July 2015 - 01:02 AM

I understand why she did that though

So I don't really see how the "result is the same"

Both stayed where they begun, thus 2 mc was abandoned.







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