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#141 ramenanmitsu

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:46 PM

1.) How the hell is Kakashi beating a Rinnegan user? Just....no. No. I <3 Kakashi but I don't think so...

Obito and Kakashi was being too emotional/nostalgic in that fight. It's not that they couldn't show their true powers, they didn't. Obito and Kakashi still sees each other as when they were 13 years old. Obito wants to believe that this time he can beat Kakashi using the same attacks he did back then. To prove that he has grown more. That is why Kakashi and Obito stopped using genjutsu, and did the "kumite" like they did back then. 


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:47 PM

 

the possibility of Madara becoming a jinchuriki by being brought back to life is pretty big. This opens up the possibility of Sasuke and Naruto fighting together ( an alliance of convenience of course) to defeat Madara. And it may tie up with chapter 625 and the uchiha's stone tablet.

They have to now. They can put their rivalry as well as Sasuke's hidden plan, because the evil has gotten stronger if it truly happens, so they must put it aside. You can say Kishi did it to have us remember that there's something with Sasuke, like a foreshadow. So pretty much, Sasuke is the last "villain" after this. Right now, all must wait for that Madara has gone to the final stage of his plan, well if it goes through. Funny that there's no reaction from Sasuke.

 

That said if they fight Madara and defeat him, who to say it will be easy in more ways than one? It's like watching two Shepard from Mass Effect trying to prove who is right: renegade or paragon. So yeah, I believe Kishi will have them getting into more conflict as they fight Madara and it won't be good. Hashirama already got a bad idea that Sasuke was doing something sinister. So for now, Madara must be defeated.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:49 PM

Okay so we have one rinne tensei technigue and a high possibility that Obito won't let Madara get resurrected, which means... that someone important might die.. know what I mean?  :smug: 

Oh, it's Kishi we're taking about... wonder if he'll decide to bring back Neji..  :fu:



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:50 PM

Okay so we have one rinne tensei technigue and a high possibility that Obito won't let Madara get resurrected, which means... that someone important might die.. know what I mean?  :smug: 

Oh, it's Kishi we're taking about... wonder if he'll decide to bring back Neji..  :fu:

 

It will be a shocker if it is Neji. And when Hinata sees him she will run to him and hug him crying telling him she loves him, yay Neji/Hina is canon. :smug:


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:52 PM

Parallelisms abound  :D

I have a lot of feelings for Kakashi and Obito's story :cry:

Although I have to wonder - is this really the end for him? Like a couple of people have said, it didn't seem like he put up much of a fight against Kakashi. But maybe that is the way Obito probably envisioned it, with the whole flashback fight, Obito was living in the past. And as for the parallels, man there is so many! 

 

And Rin  :cry:  :cry:


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:53 PM

It will be a shocker if it is Neji. And when Hinata sees him she will run to him and hug him crying telling him she loves him, yay Neji/Hina is canon. :smug:

Hah, considering her reaction to his death I doubt that she'll get all emotional unless Naturo will be somewhere around there.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:59 PM

It was to be expected of Madara betraying Obito since Obito himself has never trusted him since he first met him. Is it just me or the way Kishi draw Rin smiling in that flashback looked a whole lot similar to Sakura smiling?

Yup but Kishi's art style is very basic, everyone smiles similar. I'm also sure he has used previous chapters as preferences to newer once(MK+NS bridal save is an example), sometimes it may have purpose and sometimes not.
 

I am honestly tired of parallells, I wish Kishi would resort to more literary techniques than that. But I wouldn't say Rin/Sakura parallell not possible , as he sometimes doesn't write the way I want him to.

 

Hah, considering her reaction to his death I doubt that she'll get all emotional unless Naturo will be somewhere around there.

I think she did a pretty good job handling Neji's death, much better than Naruto ~~ before the comment on his hand that is. XD


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:02 PM

When I saw the first page of this chapter, I immediately thought "Oh great, more Obito - Kakashi back and forth for the next handful of chapters", but wow Kishi is really putting all of this into overdrive isn't he? Glad it's over.

 

Also I'm just going to say this Kakashi owning Obito is plausible. I mean sure, (as crazy as this sounds) yeah Obito had a Rinnegan eye but he only just gained it like what? A week or two ago? It would make sense if he was inexperienced with that dojutsu. Also, he only had one Rinnegan, I believe it operates just like the MS, where having a set gives you access to all of it's jutsu. Inexperience vs years of combat. Just because he has the techs doesn't mean he knows how to use them. Really imo, all Obito really had was Kamui and Katon. Having senju dna makes him a tad harder to kill, that's it. And please, like Kakashi defeating Obito is so blasphemous. He's Kage level. That's how I look at it.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:15 PM

I think she did a pretty good job handling Neji's death, much better than Naruto ~~ before the comment on his hand that is. XD

Imagine how big the fuss over the Neji's resurrection might get: he's the only hope NH has.. His reaction to the girlfriend comment, plus following actions will leave no chance to NS.  :hm:
 

Or it could be Kushina....  :smug:



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:34 PM

When I saw the first page of this chapter, I immediately thought "Oh great, more Obito - Kakashi back and forth for the next handful of chapters", but wow Kishi is really putting all of this into overdrive isn't he? Glad it's over.

 

Also I'm just going to say this Kakashi owning Obito is plausible. I mean sure, (as crazy as this sounds) yeah Obito had a Rinnegan eye but he only just gained it like what? A week or two ago? It would make sense if he was inexperienced with that dojutsu. Also, he only had one Rinnegan, I believe it operates just like the MS, where having a set gives you access to all of it's jutsu. Inexperience vs years of combat. Just because he has the techs doesn't mean he knows how to use them. Really imo, all Obito really had was Kamui and Katon. Having senju dna makes him a tad harder to kill, that's it. And please, like Kakashi defeating Obito is so blasphemous. He's Kage level. That's how I look at it.

I thought so too.

 

Obito is the Akatsuki leader, Minato a bit struggled with him, he's the guy we once thought was the strongest. I even thought he as equal to Itachi back in the day. :unsure:

 

It could be because Kakashi is Obito's weakness and because they found out his jutsu. Obito had a speciality, and once the secret was revealed he wasn't all that dangerous anymore.

 

What irks me is something Sawyer said, "Kakashi used the same moves to defeat Obito now as in their childhood days". XD He's so right on this one, it should be different because they, especially Obito are much stronger now and because the world depends on their fight. It was just "stab - stab, over"

 

I can only hope Kishi takes time to make Madara's fights epic. :umm:


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:34 PM

One thing has made me think, because Obito is being forced to use the Rinne Tensei, if he tries to resist and use it on someone else, lets say Neji, sure Neji would be revived and his body rejuvinated, but would the sealing of the byakugan be overwritten or remain?

 

Its situations like this in animation series and even games people have dubbed this situation "The spell speed effect" based off the Yu-gi-oh card game, in the game there were different types of "item" cards you could say that had priority effects, some effect with a higher priority could overried or negate another. Some lower ones could remain in effect but nullified under a higher power. In the case of Naruto this has come up many times like when Orochimaru used the 5 pronged seal on Naruto, it did not disrupt the seal but prevented Kurama from leaking chakra to Naruto. The seal for Kurama was intact but the transmission for chakra disrupted. Again recently in the war, The gold and silver brothers were sealed in the jar and pot. Kabuto released the edo tensei under Itachi, but they were unreleased so the jar and pot blocked the gold and silver brothers from being released.

 

This happens with Neji being revived would he really be set free due to revival or would be come back but physically blind, unable to open his eyes?

 

At this point, anything with Sakura getting a speculated  temporary death is looking less likely though, I mean if Obito did use it on her as giving Naruto the chance he lost or whatever, yeah that would have been his redemtion but that event is not going to come at this point. Sakura is needed to stay alive with the whole Sasuke ordeal. Not to mention she has a healing job to be ready for, I mean I think she will fight more maybe when Tsunade comes but for any purposes, I just don't see her getting harmed.

 

The whole Obito/Rin NaruSaku parallel, it still does exist I mean its there, the teams are paralleled for obvious reasons mainly due to team dynamic and Obito and kakashi represent the opposite of what Naruto and Sasuke took in life though team minato had a dark fate. Yeah rin died herself but she still has the direct dynamics that link to Sakura as the orginal team 7 did, its also again worth mentioning how both Naruto and Obito were guess you can say, burdened by a love (this is similar to how Sakura and Tsunade's love for another is paralleled, as Naruto and Jiraya loved them, they loved Sasuke and Dan respectively but both Sakura and Tsunade lost their loves, Sasuke merely ran away while Tsunades brother and dan died so they both figuritly lost their loves) for Naruto and Obito, both had pains for the girl they loved, for Naruto it was the promise and for Obito it was the world he viewed as corrupted which lead to Rins death. Naruto though has a chance for Sakura in part because he was able to impact her and for the fact that well, she is still alive.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:47 PM

The chapter felt so short I can't believe we have to wait another week to find out how everything is going to turn out...  :sad:



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 05:06 PM

This is why I liked Obito's story better than Sasuke's. He has the means for redemption, he has the means for love, and his life has been one big tragic mess. Obito lost everything in his life and lost faith in the world.

Obito, I hope you do get your redemption or at least finally get your heaven.

 

I still remember when Obito was first revealed as Tobi, and a lot people complained about that ("He was the only GOOD Uchiha!", though to be fair he still leagues above most). Not that his death seems inevitable, everyone is feeling sorry for him, and most people don't want him to die before he is somehow redeemed. 

 

Like James said, Obito, more so than Sasuke, has the means for a redemption. While he was generally a villain, and I will even argue may have been evil at times, he was probably one of the more tragic villains in the series. Some other villains, like Nagato, were probably more tragic, but I would argue that none of them were as likable as Obito was before descend towards darkness. I was always supporter of Obito being Tobi because I always lead into interesting stories, and provides more weight to the story and the characters.

 

However, if Obito DOES go out like this, then I wouldn't mind. While I always thought Obito was some ways sympathetic, he was still the bad guy. He still release the nine-tails onto the leaf village when Naruto was born (leading to his parents death), and did cause the entire war. He was always a tragic character, and he, sadly, more than deserves a tragic ending. But I don't think Kishi would kill off Obito without some sort of redemption, so I don't we have heard of the last of Obito. And I wouldn't have a problem with, Obito was always a character that felt like he could be redeemed, despite his actions (unlike Sasuke, even though his actions would be consider minimal compare to others).



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 05:52 PM

My Initial thoughts:

1.) How the hell is Kakashi beating a Rinnegan user? Just....no. No. I <3 Kakashi but I don't think so...

2.) If Obito dies I'm pretty sure we lose our shot at the Rin/Sakura - Obito/Naruto parallel. It's clear as day as is but....I wanted it shoved it peoples faces. :hehehe: :hehehe: :hehehe:

3.) I feel really weird about Obito dying w.o there being any interaction with Minato. Minato is standing right THERE. Good ol Team reunion, eh? EH??

 

4.) It's clear now that Madara is waiting to have his bout with Hashirama before he absorbs the Juubi. However, this might not happen. This implies that Madara KNEW the Kages with be Edo'd and he KNEW Hashi would be there which all equals... = ????? Something to do with Orochimaru maybe?

 

1. Obito wasn't using Rinnegan during their final charge.

 

2. I'd really rather not USE this parallel to somehow indicate a NaruxSaku victory.  Obito is a Shadow of Naruto, what he would become if his dreams and hopes are twisted into evil.  Obito and Rin's story is a tragedy, I'd rather NaruxSaku not end up as a tragedy as well.  Plus, c'mon.... NaruxSaku should stand on its own and not rely on parallels so much.  Parallels is good as a mirror of "what could happen," and sometimes it happens the same way between the two being paralleled, but sometimes, in this case, they go different ways.

 

3. Who says Obito died this chapter?

 

4. We'll see what happens.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 06:21 PM

I always putted in my head that it's very possible for Madara to betray Obito. I wasn't surprised.

 

This chapter was good. I liked how Kishi made the parallels between Obito and Naruto, and how Kakashi is holding to the past Obito.

 

Minato is going to have another role in the upcoming chapters for seeing Obito getting treated and killed that way. He's going to be pissed including Kakashi.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 06:34 PM

At this point, anything with Sakura getting a speculated  temporary death is looking less likely though, I mean if Obito did use it on her as giving Naruto the chance he lost or whatever, yeah that would have been his redemtion but that event is not going to come at this point. Sakura is needed to stay alive with the whole Sasuke ordeal. Not to mention she has a healing job to be ready for, I mean I think she will fight more maybe when Tsunade comes but for any purposes, I just don't see her getting harmed

 

Yeah i have the same feeling too.

I think it's because Kishi let her a little in the "background" while Sasuke and Naruto are gone battling to the front.

I'll be disappointed if Kishi let her fade in the background.

Up until now, what she has done is really great, and I love it, I was waiting for so long for her to have Kuchyose and Byakugo... but I also want her to fight with Naruto (and Sasuke). I don't want her to stay here, watching, and make a sad face. I want her to move, to act, to scream.

If Kishi let her fade, then he'll troll us just like he trolled 615. In 615 Hinata said "let stand up together" and then Naruto was gone in a minute. I just hope so much Kishi will not do the same with team7. I know Sasuke IS the troll this time, and that it will not be possible, maybe, to fight together like everything is right, but please Kishi, don't ruin your settings... just please let team7 fight together, even if Naruto and Sakura are screaming after Sasuke...


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:05 PM

Im so disapointed about Obito character... He was so cool and misterious when he was with is mask , but since is identity is reveal is character as regressed alot. And now even Kakashi ( I like im alot , its my favorite character and all but... ) can beat im. This guy is suppose to be the leader of akatsuki. The strongest vilain. And he is defeat by Kakashi who was killed once by only 2 of the 6 pains. 

What about the rinnegan ? He has done and epic fight against Konan to earn that, and i don't think he ever use it once.

 

Kishi really screw this character. It's sad because he had so much potential.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:08 PM

Bit of a strange chapter, all this time the Kakashi vs Obito battle was being built up, all those years of guessing if it is Obito or Madara, or a Zetsu clone (turned out to be all three) and the battle didn't even last one chapter and before it could really end Madara decided to push forward his plan and probably ended up sacrificing Obito in the process. either Kishi really is rushing to the end or there is something else major planned, this and Sasuke changing his mind suddenly doesn't make sense with all the build up it's had.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:08 PM

Aside from the silly genjutsu that carried over from last chapter's ridiculous ending... decent chapter. It's pleasing to see that Obito is dying while still in denial; his potential as a villain hasn't been wasted by some talk-no-jutsu, as I was worried was going to happen. Still, it is iffy seeing him beaten by Kakashi so easily...

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:24 PM

Son of a...

My review is done, but some stupid crap happens in YouTube. Now dealing with the repair. Oh boy, sorry guys.




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