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[TouKen4Life3g]

That's how they show their love guys XD

I guess Naruto and Sasuke got to surpass that generation with their way. Thanks, Kishi. It's all coming together (no pun intended).

[Konohakitten]

Alright chapter, even with the flashback that had a flashback in it XD I just hope it doesn't last long. Kishi should have just had the flashback start out with them as kids instead of interrupting the climax of their fight.

[T XD]

I guess Naruto and Sasuke got to surpass that generation with their way. Thanks, Kishi. It's all coming together (no pun intended).

I think Naruto and Sasuke already surpassed them in that... a long time ago

[Smiter]

That was most unexpected with this chapter, but otherwise I really enjoyed it, and just for kicks:

I wanted to post that. That was definitely the first thing to pop into my mind when I saw the flashback flashback. Damn memes.

I was interested to read about the Madara/Hashirama story and how it relates to the origin of Konoha, but when I saw the new flashback my thought was; "Oh dear, this is going to be long, isn't it?"

Hopefully, it won't be too long before we get back to the answer to Sasuke's question, and to Naruto's fight.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I think Naruto and Sasuke already surpassed them in that... a long time ago

You mean in chapter 3? Hint hint, wink wink.

[MangaReader]

You mean in chapter 3? Hint hint, wink wink.

Oh man everything is coming together (for crack pairings)

[TouKen4Life3g]

Oh man everything is coming together (for crack pairings)

Lol

Oh man, this is just fun. I shouldn't laugh as often, let alone at work.

[T XD]

You mean in chapter 3? Hint hint, wink wink.

Oh man everything is coming together (for crack pairings)

That's when all started, and now they're having some time apart. Yup, great development for a dramatic crack pairing XD

[TouKen4Life3g]

That's when all started, and now they're having some time apart. Yup, great development for a dramatic crack pairing XD

I'll bet movie 7/11 will have SN galore. It makes sense after doing movie 6/10.

[T XD]

I'll bet movie 7/11 will have SN galore. It makes sense after doing movie 6/10.

Oh yeah, that movie will have some subtle SN.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Oh yeah, that movie will have some subtle SN.

I'll bet then, people will finally acknowledge that it's Kishi's movie, 100%.

[James S Cassidy]

Yondaime is theorically slower than Naruto, and what he did was just counter attack Obito when he did the same, Naruto was so fast that he could "blink" causing the same effect as the Hiraishin(on short distances) the difference is that yondaime can teleport to other bigger distances but shorter ones like going behind someome Naruto is faster, then Naruto could counter-attack Obito more effectively than Yondaime theorically but this wanst explored dunno why.
There was no necessity to show that highspeed if he cant use it in battle.

About the bolded there's no proof of it either it's only show he using hiraishin all the time.

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Okay, one I can NOT read anything from Mangareader.

Two. "Theoretically" is not "fact." One problem I see is that a lot of people took K-Bee's words too literally. "He looked like a yellow flash." Same as they did for the confession scene with Naruto's words saying Sakura was lying. Just because the characters say it was doesn't mean that it is. You can throw theory out there, but it has been shown as well that the only one who could beat Obito at speed was Minato. His Thunder god technique was faster than Obito's Kamui. That says more than anything as your proof that Naruto, even with his speed, cannot get past the Kamui with speed alone.

You're talking like it is fact that he SHOULD be faster yet there is so much evidence to the contrary.

Three. Because Minato's Thunder God Technique is so "fast" he has to have a huge reaction time to use it effectively. Minato even demonstrated this with Kakashi's Chidori. It is a fast technique, but because his reaction is so slow, he has holes in it. The Sharingan helps him with that. This is common knowledge across all media. Even with people with speed. The Flash, Superman, Etc.

Four. Short distances? They "appear" the same, but doesn't mean they are. Again, Minato bends the plain of existence. So he is at the finish line even before Naruto begins. Doesn't matter how fast Naruto can travel. Same as Obito's Kamui, but uses a different method, but he can still be at a place faster than Naruto can traveling on the ground.

As for why Naruto hasn't used it? What if he has and it is just not working? I remember in DBZ when Goku fought Frieza, Yamacha said "Goku still has the Kaio-ken he can use" and King Kai said that he has been using the technique the whole time. I mean, we are purposely meant to follow the action even if at high speeds. Doesn't mean they are not using them.

[T XD]

I'll bet then, people will finally acknowledge that it's Kishi's movie, 100%.

Heh, I bet some fans will dismiss it cause it shows that they're arguments against Rtn will be discharged completely

Edited by T XD, 20 February 2013 - 09:40 PM.

[CloudMountainJuror]

Not a bad chapter. The battle between these two actually seemed interesting, considering they seemed to be using actual tactics. It was also interesting seeing how Madara behaved back then compared to how he acts now. He wasn't as laid back as he is now. And, alright, wrapping the Kyuubi in Susano'o was pretty clever.

Now, as long as the Hashirama/Madara relationship doesn't become an overly obvious parallel of Naruto/Sasuke, this might end well...

[Hiraishin]

Now, as long as the Hashirama/Madara relationship doesn't become an overly obvious parallel of Naruto/Sasuke, this might end well...

You know better than to expect anything but an all-too-obvious parallel.
But yeah, I absolutely agree with you. Otherwise I'll just be really frustrated with the chapters to come lol.

[六道仙人]

[CloudMountainJuror]

I remember this guy!! Back when I used Ritual monsters, Crab Turtle, Relinquished...good times.

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 20 February 2013 - 11:21 PM.

[FoolishYoungling]

I remember this guy!! Back when I used Ritual monsters, Crab Turtle, Relinquished...good times.

The old times, huh? xD

[luffyq1]

Boring chapter. Only interesting thing that came out of this is the Sakura theories.

[sushi.]

Boring chapter. Only interesting thing that came out of this is the Sakura theories.

I agree. I know that the Madara VS Hashirama fight would come sooner or later, and it is needed. It doesn't interest me personally though.

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I already thought Kishi went overboard with parallells, even the one with Sasuke a few weeks back is too much. Parallells should be about people who are similar in the aspect of what he's trying to show us in the story. If he parallells everything, even the personalities, the message loosens up. Madara and Hashirama's relationship is similar to Sasuke and Naruto's, but right now Kishi's just cloning them like they are reincarnations.