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[Don-kun]

@Jenskott
I don't think Naruto wanted to peak specifically on Hinata that was only used as a reason why she will be all over Naruto, because as far we could see Neji mentioned that he wanted to peak and the girls, but when the girl mentions that Hinata was bigger, he thought about that kind of fun giving Tobi a reason for Hinata to love him instead of Sakura.

@dovahkiin, Codus N
I still think Ciardha make some good point, I will accept that lately I been briefly reading her post because she ignores that Sakura still has feeling for Sasuke and by ignoring that it just make us look desperates, just like the other famdon who thinks Sasuke secretly loves Sakura or Naruto doesn't love Sakura anymore and move on to Hinata. If she starts accepting that Sakura really likes Sasuke for reasons that are still unknown but classified as shallow reasons, but hopefully that would change since the story is pointing in that direction, and stop calling out people who can see the obvious Sakura hater or basher, then she will always be considered as the wisest of the forum her knowledge about Mangas and Anime is a lot wider than our knowledge.

@James S Cassidy
That scene from Naruto flashback was from the summit, but if you already whatched the DB movies you will notice that they are close to the Manga, but at the same time it's a messed up reality. Only three Akatsuki were alive by that time, Sakura already confessed her feeling to Naruto by that time and it seems that it never happens (and like I said before, they cannot ignore that event because it's very heavy, proof they haven't interacted since her confesion). So this movie tells us that the summit arc fiasco never happen, is logically wise to think that way, until we are proven wrong.

[alexander]

Now that people are talking about it, it makes sense, this movie is probaly set after the kage summit, and the akatsuki member must be copies made by Tobi, remember that most of the members didn't met him before Sasori death?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

@Ns means logic
Agreed 50% she even had a fight with narunaru about translations.
I dont care since she is calling out members sakura bashers i didnt see Halfstar a basher, idc but calling her wiser than the others members of this forum....
IBullying....
OMFG
OBVIOUS TROLL IS OBVIOUS.

@Alexander
the movie had no references to the manga and neither flashbacks only a "Sasuke picture" it's impossible to make a connection with the manga with the info we got and i think we will not be able to do this because there's a lot of incostances and illogical factores that does not allow us, to make a line with the manga.
If we dont get any manga references so for obvious reason it will be not canon just a normal movie filler.

Edited by dovahkiin, 19 July 2012 - 01:50 PM.

[HalfStarStudios]

So this movie tells us that the summit arc fiasco never happen, is logically wise to think that way, until we are proven wrong.

Narutos comment about Sasuke kinda proves they already had their talk. So it's safe to assume it takes place after their second reunion. As for your post about Ciardha, read my previous post.

Edited by HalfStarStudios, 19 July 2012 - 01:47 PM.

[Strangelove]

Second, Sakura is being a little bashful around Sasuke in the picture. Thinking otherwise is foolish. However, judging by the fact that all Akatsuki is still alive shows that this taes place before all that development Sakura got from her feelings about Sasuke. As someone said, this is in the beginning of Shippuden setting. We all know at this time Sakura still had Sasuke fresh in her mind and was the beginning to show feelings for Naruto more predominately. Perhaps the movie will reflect that.

Yet for some weird reason...Naruto knows his parents...before he knows his parents? If Nagato is alive, then Naruto doesn't know his mom. If Kakuzu or whatever is alive, then he has yet to learn of his father...Also Konoha is standing...so this is happening before the Pain arc. Doesn't make any sense at all...It just goes to show you that movies and manga don't share the same universe. For example...Fusion Reborn in DBZ made absolutely zero sense in the actual plot events...Why is Gohan still on Earth, and why is Vegeta dead? It makes absolutely zero sense whatsoever.

Which tells me this movie...like the last 3 are going to suck. But I will watch it, mainly because is free, and I probably have nothing better to do.

Edited by Strangelove, 19 July 2012 - 01:57 PM.

[Fenris]

That's pretty much what I think too. But the only plothole would be: just how fast was the village rebuilt?? the only thing we know is that it takes place somewhere in July.

I'm sure they could use some awesome ninja skillz to rebuild as well? Maybe that would of sped up the rebuild process a bit faster. Looots and lots of stamina.

Edited by Fenris, 19 July 2012 - 01:52 PM.

[Codus N]

@James S Cassidy
That scene from Naruto flashback was from the summit, but if you already whatched the DB movies you will notice that they are close to the Manga, but at the same time it's a messed up reality. Only three Akatsuki were alive by that time, Sakura already confessed her feeling to Naruto by that time and it seems that it never happens (and like I said before, they cannot ignore that event because it's very heavy, proof they haven't interacted since her confesion). So this movie tells us that the summit arc fiasco never happen, is logically wise to think that way, until we are proven wrong.

I think you're right that it does come after the Kage Summit. The evidence would be what you pointed out in Naruto's flashback. The only question would be: just how the heck did the village get rebuilt so fast?? but we do know that this takes place in July. So it could be that the Kage Summit was around February or something and Naruto's training took place September-October. The war would begin in November.

[HalfStarStudios]

I'm sure they could use some awesome ninja skillz to rebuild as well? Maybe that would of sped up the rebuild process a bit faster. Looots and lots of stamina.

Correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't the village rebuilt in Blood Prison as well? Which most deff took place after the Pain fight.

[Codus N]

Yeah, you're right. It had to be after Pain arc since Minato was shown in his flashback.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I think you're right that it does come after the Kage Summit. The evidence would be what you pointed out in Naruto's flashback. The only question would be: just how the heck did the village get rebuilt so fast?? but we do know that this takes place in July. So it could be that the Kage Summit was around February or something and Naruto's training took place September-October. The war would begin in November.

I think the character skills and their clothes are from after the kage summit but the storyline and character development not, because when they return form kage summit the village was still being rebuilt and tobi was preparing for the war, and two naruto got the order to go to that island to train.
And Sakura was way more nicer with naruto than she was before, because now she knows that naruto loves her.

[HalfStarStudios]

I think the character skills and their clothes are from after the kage summit but the storyline and character development not, because when they return form kage summit the village was still being rebuilt and tobi was preparing for the war, and two naruto got the order to go to that island to train.
And Sakura was way more nicer with naruto than she was before, because now she knows that naruto loves her.

The village was rebuilt in Blood Prison as well which took place after Pain took a Shinra Tensei crap on it.

[Codus N]

And Sakura was way more nicer with naruto than she was before, because now she knows that naruto loves her.

Huh, when was that?? I don't remember there was only one scene of them interacting and that was super short.

[alexander]

Another confusing thing to note is that Naruto seems to recognize Kushina in the trailer, but, didn't he only met her during his training arc?

[Fenris]

Does anyone know if the oneshot was a direct way of showing everything in the movie in manga form? Was that it - what the movie's going to feature?

[HalfStarStudios]

Another confusing thing to note is that Naruto seems to recognize Kushina in the trailer, but, didn't he only met her during his training arc?

Yeah that confused me as well. I know for sure it takes place after the Kage Summit but it shouldn't take place after Naruto fought Kurama. Though the movies timeline is always confusing. Just like how the village was rebuilt in Blood Prison when it's not even rebuilt in the canon storyline. I guess we'll have to wait and see. But if it does happen after Naruto fought Kurama, hopefully we get to see KM Naruto in action!

Does anyone know if the oneshot was a direct way of showing everything in the movie in manga form? Was that it - what the movie's going to feature?

It pretty much shows the day before the movie happens. Explains what Tobis plans are and why the change in character personalities.

Edited by HalfStarStudios, 19 July 2012 - 02:08 PM.

[RedDelicious]

... she ignores that Sakura still has feeling for Sasuke and by ignoring that
...
starts accepting that Sakura really likes Sasuke for reasons that are still unknown
...

That's the problem.
Acknowledging that Sakura still has feelings for Sasuke is not the same as saying she still has passionate romantic feelings for Sasuke ("really likes").

She spent almost as much time with Sasuke as she has with Naruto, once had a teenage crush on the (ninja) rock star that Konoha village fawned over, and built a bond of trust with her squad mates necessary when facing life and death situations. Also guilt from not stopping him from turning traitor and her role in getting Naruto obsessed with bringing him back. That's a lot of strong feelings. Doesn't mean that those feelings are currently romantic love.

It would be like (to give an exaggerated example) I could claim that Naruto has an Oedipus complex, because he said he loved his mother and was mad at his father. (It's cannon! )

[Don-kun]

Narutos comment about Sasuke kinda proves they already had their talk. So it's safe to assume it takes place after their second reunion. As for your post about Ciardha, read my previous post.

No that is not my point, I use Dragon Ball movies has reference, is a cannon reality that is very altered from the real Manga, why I think that way, because of the way Sakura will behave towards Sasuke and the fact that she already confessed her feelings for Naruto, we didn't we see any angst in her expression towards Naruto in that special chapter, that was the same old Sakura, if Sasuke already try to kill her and she still see Sasuke that way it will make her pathetic, that is why I say is an event after the summit fiasco, but it seems that the fiasco itself never happen, canon word with messed up reality.
Plus all Akatsuki are still alive and the Village so far seems Ok has we knows it was still under construction.

@ Dova
I'm referring to her knowledge in other Animes and Mangas, being able to analyze that Kishi follow the same patterns other Mangaka fallow since the 90s. Let face it back in that time I didn't know one kitten about Manga or Anime and worse any stories about them.

I think expirience makes you wiser, but denial makes you look bad.

Now I need to go back and read all the post I haven't read yet

Edited by NS means logic, 19 July 2012 - 02:22 PM.

[sushi.]

If it's from the beginning of Shippuden, it would be sad. So much has happened since, it's like blowing up all the developments. I remember some description of the movie, saying "- and why are the still Akatsuki alive?". Meaning they've already been killed. Kabuto has yet to be shown, so maybe it is not edo tensei. But I hope there is some trick to it.

[HalfStarStudios]

No that is not my point, I use Dragon Ball movies has reference, is a cannon reality that is very altered, why I think that way, because of the way Sakura will behave towards Sasuke and the fact that she already confessed her feelings for Naruto, we didn't see any angst in her expression towards Naruto in that special chapter was the same Sakura, if Sasuke already try to kill her and she still see Sasuke that way it will make her pathetic, that is why I say is an event after the summit fiasco, but it seems that the fiasco itself never happen, canon word with messed up reality.

Plus the Village so far seems Ok.

I don't see why Sakura would act different to Naruto because she confessed. He had her panties on him, she would act the same way in canon as well. Also yeah, that was my point earlier that it would be pretty pathetic for her to still see Sasuke that way after all that happened but hey....that's the way it is I guess. Also Naruto himself pretty much confirmed this takes place after the Team 7 Reunion based on how he said how much Sasuke changed.

The village was in perfect condition during Blood Prison which took place right after the Pain arc when it should still be in horrible condition.

[Codus N]

Just wanted to drop this by:

Real!Shikamaru's book was a book titled "Tactics-a study of opperations"

Would've been awesome if it was 'Art of War" but by a totally different person. And it's also a very big departure from Part I Shikamaru who was too lazy to open up a book. He's all grown up, huh??