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[Greed-Sama]

He is in the wrong, but he has reason for it. the circumstances, coupled with inferiority and superiority complexes of Uchihas is enough. And not sudden 'change of heart'. He is dynamic. He needs reason. With reason, you can change him in ten chapters. He could come back. And not imprisonment. Maybe less.

And death? Didn't I say he could redeem himself by fighting against Madara in the end and die? Or he could do more and actually be forced to come back, even if for imprisonment at first, then less later. Remember, "The quality of mercy is never strained,"

Only if you throw out logical reasoning. "The quality of mercy is never strained." So we should forgive those who have a hand in declaring war on people and causing the deaths of many, and let them come back with only imprisonment? It's exile or death for me, or being chained to a wall in a dark cellar where he can never see the daylight again.

[The Tax-Man]

Only if you throw out logical reasoning. "The quality of mercy is never strained." So we should forgive those who have a hand in declaring war on people and causing the deaths of many, and let them come back with only imprisonment? It's exile or death for me, or being chained to a wall in a dark cellar where he can never see the daylight again.

*sigh*

METAPHOR, man metaphor.

I said he could make up for it by doing good and then be spared from death. Remember, this is shounen. We can't expect real world logic all the time, especially with ideal resolutions of themes.

[Greed-Sama]

*sigh*

METAPHOR, man metaphor.

I said he could make up for it by doing good and then be spared from death. Remember, this is shounen. We can't expect real world logic all the time, especially with ideal resolutions of themes.

I understood it was a metaphor. I'm just saying it's still a ridiculous one. And I do know. I think it would be nice to have a manga/story/anime that does put some realistic things to it's plot. But I can only dream I guess.

[The Tax-Man]

I understood it was a metaphor. I'm just saying it's still a ridiculous one. And I do know. I think it would be nice to have a manga/story/anime that does put some realistic things to it's plot. But I can only dream I guess.

It is realistic. But this is a story and not a tragedy. The ending has to be mostly good or satisfying for the main characters. Sasuke too since he's an Anti-Hero. We can't really expect realistic endings to the resolution to one of the main themes.

[merryGOflava]

I understood it was a metaphor. I'm just saying it's still a ridiculous one. And I do know. I think it would be nice to have a manga/story/anime that does put some realistic things to it's plot. But I can only dream I guess.

maybe, but isnt that why we read manga, cause we want the hero to save they day. its cliche, but its still surviving.

[The Tax-Man]

maybe, but isnt that why we read manga, cause we want the hero to save they day. its cliche, but its still surviving.

Exactly. But we can still expect some possible realism. Namely the death of Sasuke.

[Greed-Sama]

maybe, but isnt that why we read manga, cause we want the hero to save they day. its cliche, but its still surviving.

Well saving the day at a cost. When everything comes out all hunky dorey something doesn't sit well with me. Things don't have to fall to pieces either, but I would like a nice balance. Like have Sasuke come back but have Kakashi die, or have Sasuke die, but redeem himself, or more importantly have Naruto and Sakura get together to even out Naruto's sacrifices that he's made.

[The Tax-Man]

Well saving the day at a cost. When everything comes out all hunky dorey something doesn't sit well with me. Things don't have to fall to pieces either, but I would like a nice balance. Like have Sasuke come back but have Kakashi die, or have Sasuke die, but redeem himself, or more importantly have Naruto and Sakura get together to even out Naruto's sacrifices that he's made.

Sasuke dead's good. He needs to. Really...

...since we all agree where's the argument?

[Greed-Sama]

Sasuke dead's good. He needs to. Really...

...since we all agree where's the argument?

Lol. I stated that along time ago. Dead is good.

[merryGOflava]

Sasuke dead's good. He needs to. Really...

...since we all agree where's the argument?

i dont know....i let all my debating out im good

[The Tax-Man]

Lol. I stated that along time ago. Dead is good.

So why did we argue?

[merryGOflava]

So why did we argue?

i dun know....i still kinda want sasuke to live...but if he has to die then okay, but it better be dramatic and awesome

[The Tax-Man]

i dun know....i still kinda want sasuke to live...but if he has to die then okay, but it better be dramatic and awesome

He doesn't have to. But there are chances he will.

[merryGOflava]

He doesn't have to. But there are chances he will.

then i think ill leave it to kishi :3 whatever happens kishi knows what hes doing~

[Greed-Sama]

So why did we argue?

I thought it was something about him becoming a wanderer.

[The Tax-Man]

then i think ill leave it to kishi :3 whatever happens kishi knows what hes doing~

I guess.

I thought it was something about him becoming a wanderer.

Oh yes. I say it 'aint happenin'.

[merryGOflava]

I guess.




Oh yes. I say it 'aint happenin'.

wanderer sasuke~ you gotta admit its not hard to image i can see him going across the road with a sword and his head down...

[The Tax-Man]

wanderer sasuke~ you gotta admit its not hard to image i can see him going across the road with a sword and his head down...

Yeah...looks cool...but then again there is no way in H**L it's happening.

[merryGOflava]

Yeah...looks cool...but then again there is no way in H**L it's happening.

heh heh~ a fantasy is a fantasy

[ciardha]

Au contraire, mon frere, I do. I merely meant anti-climatic in terms of all the conflicts and expectations brought from the constant struggle for Sasuke. Him actually just leaving would not be much of a closure at all in the Team 7 plot.. Since the development only leaves to really viable options, redeem or die, or come back and get punished. And I myself go for the former since the latter is cliched and not really much likely.

I disagree, I see Sasuke living and becoming a wanderer the most deep playing out of the redemption theme. (ala Rurouni Kenshin) I don't see Kishimoto having Sasuke ever live in Konoha again.

1) unlike Itachi he had no emotional connection to the village, and even if he acknowledges the Team 7 bond- especially the brother like bond to Naruto, that will not tie him to Konoha.

2) Since he left Konoha we haven't him show any desire to stay anywhere for any length of time, in fact he prefers to move around- even when there's no threat.

3)The only place he showed any emotional bond to at all was the Uchiha arms storage base where Granny Cat lives. And even there he didn't stay long.