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Posted 16 March 2014 - 06:02 AM

Most that hate her are the one's who are mad at the fact she lied about the confession. That's at least what l got from the NH shippers. Some even believe she has been using Naruto this whole time. Man l have herd crazy things from both NH and SS shippers. 

 

Look at this Youtuber: Thejorishae 

 

I believe he is Sakura's #1 hater

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=1-OoBhZJD7c

I've seen this video before. 

 

I mean he has some good points but he is exaggerating everything. 

 

Sigh, its sad when so many people dislike your favorite character. 

 

But I see the confession in a completely different light. I mean Sakura knew that the 11 agreed on killing Sasuke. And she knew that Naruto would never agree to that. So what does she do, she tries to take the burden on her own. Because this is a Team 7 issue not a Konoha 11 issue. And she tries to relieve Naruto of his promise because there is no way he can succeed if Sasuke is dead. 

 

It's a little backwards in the handling of the situation but I see what she was trying to do. 

 

But all people can focus on is the L-O-V-E word. But why would Sakura go that far to protect Naruto and to save him from that horrid situation unless she had genuine feelings for him? I am not saying its love, but she obviously cares for him deeply. 



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Posted 16 March 2014 - 09:34 AM

Yeah the wake up moment is Definetly what everyone is expecting the most right now. The only question is how is it going to be set up?? I've been trying to look into this in a writers point of view as best I could and right now I would say it'd be best to wake up Sasuke first in the next few chapters but still drag on Naruto's awakening as long as he can. It would keep readers in suspense of when the heck naruto is going to wake up and make them into the story more and more.

Now as a NS fan I also want to see a NS moment when he wakes up but not the hugging, kissing and tears of relief. I want too see him rescue sakura from certain death than anything. Naruto has rescued sakura with her in his arms before and it makes a whole lot more sense to me that that will happen then any other romantic gesture.( though I wouldn't mind a big ol' bear hug afterwards XD lol)

I do get what you want to say and convey. But I think it would be a prettier picture if the action comes from Sakura's end. That's because we have always seen Naruto protect her, making her happy and all that. Yes, Sakura also does that but not with the same intentions as that of Naruto. What you are saying that Naruto should do, will make a prettier picture if it comes from Sakura's side too. But I guess it won't matter much from whose side the action is taken. And about the part regarding the dragging on Naruto's awakening, yes its pretty good of an idea to bring Sasuke first and then Naruto, but not dragging Naruto's awakening. I am not saying NS should be canon now, but a small but concise moment will do good for now. Seeing that the manga is nearing its end Kishi cannot show Sakura coming to terms with her feelings in a single manga and it is not even plausible. A gradual realisation is certainly a more plausible option IMO. But nevertheless, it will be quite interesting to see how Kishi shows Sakura realising her feelings and confessing it to Naruto and then his answer and the start of their relationship. The confession will be re-addressed too. I do wish to see a liplock scene between Naruto and Sakura once all the issues are dealt with XD. It will be worth a watch!


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 12:08 PM

I do get what you want to say and convey. But I think it would be a prettier picture if the action comes from Sakura's end. That's because we have always seen Naruto protect her, making her happy and all that. Yes, Sakura also does that but not with the same intentions as that of Naruto. What you are saying that Naruto should do, will make a prettier picture if it comes from Sakura's side too. But I guess it won't matter much from whose side the action is taken. And about the part regarding the dragging on Naruto's awakening, yes its pretty good of an idea to bring Sasuke first and then Naruto, but not dragging Naruto's awakening. I am not saying NS should be canon now, but a small but concise moment will do good for now. Seeing that the manga is nearing its end Kishi cannot show Sakura coming to terms with her feelings in a single manga and it is not even plausible. A gradual realisation is certainly a more plausible option IMO. But nevertheless, it will be quite interesting to see how Kishi shows Sakura realising her feelings and confessing it to Naruto and then his answer and the start of their relationship. The confession will be re-addressed too. I do wish to see a liplock scene between Naruto and Sakura once all the issues are dealt with XD. It will be worth a watch!


Yes I 100% totally agree with you X). Naruto has saved and rescued many times, so it's only fair and right that Sakura gets to save and rescue Naruto as well. In all honesty (and I think people are gonna call me a bad person for this XD) I really really really want Obitos transfer of the nine tails to fail and they have no choice but to find and an alternate solution to bring him back. It would be a perfect chance for Sakura to figure out something herself to save his life and it would actually give her more character development as well if she develops some new ninjutsu while doing this. If this does happen I would be happy as a leprechaun finding a pot of gold XD, but I also still feel in the end Naruto would be saving sakura in a epic hero's comeback fashion!! It's just been so much into the story so many times it's hard to let it go X) but yeah that's "part" of my future NS moment in a nutshell.

As for Sakura realizing her feelings for naruto and how they would play out I actually made a post about that not too long ago on an idea that popped in my head. This is essentially an action manga to its core so it's not surprising not to see many romantic gestures In the manga (not saying there weren't none, just not a lot). And in the past chapter 632 Sakura made a little joke about stealing the Hokages seat right from under naruto and Sasukes noses. Which got me thinking why not hold a battle royal match to determine who would be the sixth hokage!?!? 8 or contestants battle it out all over the village and one of the first matches would be.....Naruto vs Sakura!!!! Naruto has stated that he connects with people better with his fists so why can't the same be said for Sakura. They would clash in a classic sparring match with all their feelings being conveyed to each other and eventually it becomes too one sided and Naruto wins. After all that that's when I'll expect NS to become officially canon cause I would bet that's when Naruto would make his confession to sakura......and she agrees with a great smile!!! Now there could be some things added right after that to make it more lovey dovey but I'll let other people run their own imaginations of what would they do if this indeed happen XD lol

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 12:55 PM

Yes I 100% totally agree with you X). Naruto has saved and rescued many times, so it's only fair and right that Sakura gets to save and rescue Naruto as well. In all honesty (and I think people are gonna call me a bad person for this XD) I really really really want Obitos transfer of the nine tails to fail and they have no choice but to find and an alternate solution to bring him back. It would be a perfect chance for Sakura to figure out something herself to save his life and it would actually give her more character development as well if she develops some new ninjutsu while doing this. If this does happen I would be happy as a leprechaun finding a pot of gold XD, but I also still feel in the end Naruto would be saving sakura in a epic hero's comeback fashion!! It's just been so much into the story so many times it's hard to let it go X) but yeah that's "part" of my future NS moment in a nutshell.

As for Sakura realizing her feelings for naruto and how they would play out I actually made a post about that not too long ago on an idea that popped in my head. This is essentially an action manga to its core so it's not surprising not to see many romantic gestures In the manga (not saying there weren't none, just not a lot). And in the past chapter 632 Sakura made a little joke about stealing the Hokages seat right from under naruto and Sasukes noses. Which got me thinking why not hold a battle royal match to determine who would be the sixth hokage!?!? 8 or contestants battle it out all over the village and one of the first matches would be.....Naruto vs Sakura!!!! Naruto has stated that he connects with people better with his fists so why can't the same be said for Sakura. They would clash in a classic sparring match with all their feelings being conveyed to each other and eventually it becomes too one sided and Naruto wins. After all that that's when I'll expect NS to become officially canon cause I would bet that's when Naruto would make his confession to sakura......and she agrees with a great smile!!! Now there could be some things added right after that to make it more lovey dovey but I'll let other people run their own imaginations of what would they do if this indeed happen XD lol

No failures anymore XD. It will surely seem a bit unrealistic if we have another failure. And about the Naruto vs Sakura part, I say he'd resign the match before it even starts XD. First thing is we all know that she beats the kitten out of him XD and secondly Naruto can never hurt Sakura physically or mentally even if he wants to ^_^. About the fist connecting part, IMO they don't need a fist connection. They are as it is very close to each other. They can understand what the other has to say without words by just looking at one another so let alone fist bumping ^_^. But nevertheless, Naruto x Sakura will be fun to watch as a comedy episode XD


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 01:38 PM

It still amazes me that such a large group of the fandom consists of these thought processes yet many either have been proven otherwise and they still don't consider the aspect of NS possible yet they still consider SS as the most likely, regardless NH is in the middle of the big 3 but still very small even though it had a buildable template to become canon.

 

This is what I mean:

 

Fandom dismisses everything on NS like the revealation of the nine tails, learning about jinchurki extraction, the 4 tails incident(and aftermath), the "we're getting closer to sasuke together" flashback, the hug, the revealation from Sai, Naruto saving sakura from sasuke, 573, and most recently 630, 631 (both the parallel and advocation to fight), and 662+663. Yet for having the most NH and SS are still bound to happen despite hardly anything coming.

 

Many say the parallels don't exist yet in the manga, pairng orietned or not, kishi made it a reoccuring writing method of his, the current follower of said ideal is doing something that will work unlike the past. In the pairing oritented ones, the biggest thing I have ever seen in the fandom is the time when every fan was like "oh Sakura isn't like Kushina, its Hinata, thats all you need to know" Despite the obvious dead give away that Sakura and Kushina were similar. Then the storm of 631 occured, practically all fans who followed this basically flipped a table that day in frustration and over such a small simple moment, because they were wrong and we were right as we had been for years, we had evidence and then suddenly the anger of this simple moment was diverted between us, kishi, and the fictional characters. I will never forget the rants on how they say kishi doesn't know what he is doing or how now others say the kushina foreshadow doesn't matter. It became even worse when people tried to make it into something for NH despite them only trying to make a negative out of a short opportune comedic moment that put emphasis on a past foreshadow. Let alone this was the same chapter that shut down pairing sections of fourms on narutobase and narutofourms. Really 631 was like a match dropped into a pit filled with gasoline and gunpowder mixed together, the results were explosive and because people always overreact to stuff at first, its just insane to think how such a simple moment intended for comedy and foreshadow building struck people so much harder than intened. Really this wasn't even the worst, the worst will be for anti-NS fans if Sakura has more feelings for naruto after this situation or if NH is ended on some resolution only as friendship.

 

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 02:59 PM

 

 
 
Honestly, I was not speaking to you directly or quoting you.  However, I can understand how you might think that, and I apologize if you felt singled out.  There are more naysayers and Development DeniersTM than yourself who visit these threads.
 
Maybe if you had been around here during the meltdown after #615, you might better understand why those of us who never doubt NS, and never doubt Sakura's growth as a character, and never doubt Kishimoto's ultimate goal begin to cringe when there's so much negativity.  Even a theoretically safe haven like H&E was a scary place then, and we've managed to put it behind us.
 
But no matter what positive signs are in the story, no matter how well they are explained and supported, no matter how many people agree, there are always some people who are not satisfied or live in fear.  For some it's easier... or better... or more fun to focus on what they perceive as negative.  It's allowed, but it's difficult to understand sometimes -- especially after the vortex of hysteria that was #615.

 

I see, my bad. TBH the whole chapter 615 doesn't really bother me that much I never really saw it as a threat to NS. More or less what confuses me is chapter 631 having multiple NS hints (the girlfriend comment, the kushina parallal and the ambigious "take care of my son" statement) and then at the end throw in a Team 7 joke (Sakura blushing that Sasuke saved her and Naruto comically pointing out that he's there too) I get that it was a joke meant for nostalgia (since they haven't had this kind of moment since...like...he chunnin exam arc) but it still seemed like a step backward in terms of her development.

 

I don't know what to tell you.  A number of people, including myself, have made solid and logical cases that suggest otherwise.  If you choose the "Sakura doesn't care enough" viewpoint no one can stop you.

 

Its not a matter of her not caring I just think she should have shown it more. I'm just slightly underwhelmed is all that in a majority of Part 2 they build-up her worrying about Naruto's safety to this possibly being the largest NS moment because of what might happen to him, and yet strangely enough I think that out of all the moments this is the one moment where she shouldn't keep a level-head (yes you can have her do what she's doing now) but when you build up a moment like this for a while and have her act in control of the situation it just seems off, especially when not too long ago she could barely pull herself together from a former friend of hers turning into emo peter. Main problem is that Kishi has been hinting at NS more than any other pairing and yet we have yet to see this progress further than just ambiguously good friends stage. Even Naruto didn't seem 100% sure about it, when he was pretty confident about it at the beginning. 

 

It's not.  Likewise, feeling that constant negativity -- especially in light of so many positive NS developments to talk about -- is tiresome and seems like trolling is just a personal opinion too.

I bring up negativity just for the sake of argument, NS is pretty obviously endgame at this point. In this case bringing up negativity is good because there are more things to talk about around here since NH and SS at this point is sinking pretty fast. I also bring up these arguments for the sole purpose of them getting debunked.

 

Though in reality this is just pretty much an excuse, I'm getting swamped by college work and its been giving me "generalized anxiety" and one of the problems of it is obsessive thinking about irrelevant subjects, at the moment i'm just taking some prozac and distracting myself on forums until it goes away. 


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 03:37 PM

What is going on here? Haven't posted in a while. :)


 


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 03:53 PM

It still amazes me that such a large group of the fandom consists of these thought processes yet many either have been proven otherwise and they still don't consider the aspect of NS possible yet they still consider SS as the most likely, regardless NH is in the middle of the big 3 but still very small even though it had a buildable template to become canon.

 

This is what I mean:

 

Fandom dismisses everything on NS like the revealation of the nine tails, learning about jinchurki extraction, the 4 tails incident(and aftermath), the "we're getting closer to sasuke together" flashback, the hug, the revealation from Sai, Naruto saving sakura from sasuke, 573, and most recently 630, 631 (both the parallel and advocation to fight), and 662+663. Yet for having the most NH and SS are still bound to happen despite hardly anything coming.

 

Many say the parallels don't exist yet in the manga, pairng orietned or not, kishi made it a reoccuring writing method of his, the current follower of said ideal is doing something that will work unlike the past. In the pairing oritented ones, the biggest thing I have ever seen in the fandom is the time when every fan was like "oh Sakura isn't like Kushina, its Hinata, thats all you need to know" Despite the obvious dead give away that Sakura and Kushina were similar. Then the storm of 631 occured, practically all fans who followed this basically flipped a table that day in frustration and over such a small simple moment, because they were wrong and we were right as we had been for years, we had evidence and then suddenly the anger of this simple moment was diverted between us, kishi, and the fictional characters. I will never forget the rants on how they say kishi doesn't know what he is doing or how now others say the kushina foreshadow doesn't matter. It became even worse when people tried to make it into something for NH despite them only trying to make a negative out of a short opportune comedic moment that put emphasis on a past foreshadow. Let alone this was the same chapter that shut down pairing sections of fourms on narutobase and narutofourms. Really 631 was like a match dropped into a pit filled with gasoline and gunpowder mixed together, the results were explosive and because people always overreact to stuff at first, its just insane to think how such a simple moment intended for comedy and foreshadow building struck people so much harder than intened. Really this wasn't even the worst, the worst will be for anti-NS fans if Sakura has more feelings for naruto after this situation or if NH is ended on some resolution only as friendship.

 

Yes its gotten to the point where all this stuff is basically ei

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 03:59 PM

Here's a question and be honest with yourself.

All the NH moments remain the same but her love is not exposed or never shown love at all, take your pick, and no hints (you can remove shy part if you like). That all said will your mindset on NH be the same as today or will it be different? Why?

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 16 March 2014 - 04:37 PM.


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 04:01 PM

Can you elaborate and be a bit clear and specific @NaruSaku4Life3g? I am sorry I did not understand your question.


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 04:39 PM

Can you elaborate and be a bit clear and specific @NaruSaku4Life3g? I am sorry I did not understand your question.

Well I edited it, so hopefully it's more clear. That said let me put it this way.

After 615: NH is happening!
After 615 with my statement: Nice Friendship. Equal standing.

I feel like once we see her claim her love, our mindset must think love at all time, even when certain times, it's meant for strength and confidence.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 04:50 PM

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 05:27 PM

Most of the people who like NH, in reality, like Hinata for all the obvious reasons we all know and since she loves Naruto we get NH supporters. Can't really blame those people XD. And the fact that they try to see NH referance in every single aspect tells us that deep down even they know NS is the end game. Just that its hard for them to accept that and that's why we get all those silly posts. Honestly, 615 did shake my opinion only to be restored by CPR XD. Well, wouldn't the NH interactions be like any other normal interactions had the love been not shown?

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 05:33 PM

I just feel like we have to put her on a pedastal because she loves him or the fact we know she loves him. All I'm saying is that if she wants to shake this love war up, she got to do something big rather than falling into the same meaning as the rest. But maybe because that's not her at all. But I guess we all have to consider everything a NH moment no matter what. That's my problem.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 05:59 PM

Yeah! More or less it! Its not quite appropriate to ignore her feelings especially when she is a part of romance subplot. Its not exactly 'forced to consider' but something close to it. I agree with you that she has to do something extraordinary to set her apart in this pairing war. But won't that be OOC for her? Even if we have to consider NH moments, NS far outweighs NH by quality and quantity both. So, in the end even if you consider NH that won't make much of a difference IMO

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 06:09 PM

I'm not ignoring her feelings, but I am saying if it's something else that is done by her that stands differently from all others, then we can finally consider it. That said the only perk it gives her is easy worriesome for Naruto. Oh and stuff for SD and others to make a fic on it. That's all that made it difference so far. It's nothing to worry. I rather worry SS but even that one is on its knee, waiting for one last tombstone piledriver.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 06:23 PM

Anyone else think Road to Ninja would be kind of weird to watch if Kishi decides to g with a different pair?

 

That movie was pretty pro NS and Kishi apparently worked on the script (though I don't really know how involved that makes him precisely) 


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 06:33 PM

Anyone else think Road to Ninja would be kind of weird to watch if Kishi decides to g with a different pair?
 
That movie was pretty pro NS and Kishi apparently worked on the script (though I don't really know how involved that makes him precisely) 

He was involved 100%. Well in terms of writing and designs and what not. He's the one that claimed that made anime team crying to keep redoing on the scene, mainly first half, from what I heard, hence major animation jump in Menma attack.

Anyway, hell yeah it will be weird.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 06:44 PM

@NaruSaku4Life3g Exactly my thoughts! Even I am a bit worried about SS. But apart from just hand holding and being busy measuring the length of Naruto's palm she hasen't done anything significant. So we can ease up on NH. SS gets me worried. But somehow I just feel that back in part 1 Sasuke did care for Naruto the most and he maybe always wanted Sakura to go with Naruto. I think he still cares for Naruto the most besides Itachi and his clan but due to his darkness he cannot express it and still wants Sakura to go with Naruto. I don't know why I think this way, but it was just a whim. I can be wrong but its surely worth a thought. And if you compare those two with Goku and Vegeta, and how their partnership progessed, they are very much similar. I don't know but just try to give the above mentioned things a thought.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 06:48 PM

He was involved 100%. Well in terms of writing and designs and what not. He's the one that claimed that made anime team crying to keep redoing on the scene, mainly first half, from what I heard, hence major animation jump in Menma attack.

Anyway, hell yeah it will be weird.

 

Have you finally watched the movie?  :lol:


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