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#1561 alexander

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 07:54 PM

QUOTE (Newkerz @ Sep 30 2010, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apologize for going a little off-topic here, but I remember that you had the theory of Naruto going off to the final battle while Sakura is back in Konoha awaiting his return because she is apparently pregnant (which Naruto doesn't know yet, of course). I think, to be honest, this would fit ShikamaruxTemari better than it does NS. Or KibaHina. I could see shikamaru going off into one of the major decisive battles as Temari waits in Suna while being pregnant and Shikamaru comes home safely, thus surpassing Asuma. AsuKure didn't have a send-off but ShikaTema will. Temari will probably act the same way Sakura would, saying something like "If you die, then I'll just drag your body here and kill you again." and ends with a small kiss to remind him of her.


I pretty sure Kishimoto will not make any of the new generation characters have kids before this battle is over, and i doubt Temari and Shikamaru would have such a fast development when the final battle is already close to start, if they ever get together of course.

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 10:09 PM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Sep 30 2010, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh believe me, it has, and he did- at the last Jump Festa. He was expressing irritation at the rabid anti Sakura letters he was getting from readers saying "Sakura was lying,etc.." when she made her love confession to Naruto in 469, Kishimoto says- "On the contrary in that scene, I was writing her as an honest and surprisingly determined girl". He was very defensive of Sakura and does not like at all that some very vocal fans are writing such nasty things to him about Sakura.


Yeah I think I vaguely remember it mentionned somewhere when I surfed the internet. Still, since he tends to change his mind a lot, we probably have to wait for Sakura's revelation of her true intention in the manga. The more I think about it, the more confused I am. I'm starting to think that Kishimoto was trying to re-introduce Sakura as a heroine, through a controversial action, and a misunderstanding with the main hero.

In fact, it was that confession and her actions afterwards that made her my favorite char. Before, I like her mainly because Naruto likes her. Now part of my reason of still liking Naruto, was his appraciation of her. More than anybody, Sakura should have known that her actions damage all her relationship, the faith of Naruto, and the trust of her comrade (putting them to sleep in the middle of a forest could be considered a betrayal of trust). For a split second, I thought she was intending to make Naruto hate her.

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 10:37 PM

I'll keep this in spoilers in case no one else is interested in this debate...
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QUOTE (ciardha @ Sep 29 2010, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To quote you- Prove it. I sure never have seen you do that about Sakura, it's always the most negative interpretation you can come up with. "She's lying", continuing to believe the debunked (and debunked by a sasunaru shipper who doesn't even like Sakura that much, no less) anti-Sakura "summary" of the Jump Festa interview, etc...

You could have saved yourself the time writing this LAP about how I, apparently, think Sakura is a lying jerk by reading my post above explaining my personal view. That obviously shows you are wrong. Even more, it’s rather rude of you to insinuate that I am anti-Sakura in any way because I point out her flaws. In return, I’d like to know why you have such an issue with doing this yourself, as I have never seen you say anything critical towards Sakura. In fact, you seem to think she can do no wrong, curious as she is the ‘normal girl’ type character. I have seen you time and time again criticize other characters, including Naruto, in defense of Sakura. Not only that, but I argue that you shouldn’t be bashing Hinata fans who worship Hinata when I see you worshipping Sakura. I can’t help but think it is oddly similar and somewhat ironic.

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Never mind Kishimoto himself said she was not lying about her being in love with Naruto, and Naruto himself did not say she was consciously lying about anything, but you are bound and determined to continue to say she was consciously lying about everything.

Kishimoto himself said that Sakura still had feelings for Sasuke. Since you like to use the interview so much, it was in every translation, including the one done by Fourangers, that he says this:
As for Sakura... Sasuke... what about Sasuke? Naruto is close and she worries about Naruto as well, but as expected, she [loves] Sasuke.

While the word love wasn’t added specifically, it is heavily implied. It is the same implication that was given when Yamato didn’t finish his line of “I've seen it, Sakura. I know just how much you...”

Kishi depicting an honest girl can mean many things. Sakura was doing what she honestly thought was right. Her intentions were honest. But once again, the average reader will not be sure whether to take her words as honest or not because they were coupled with a lie. That was the point of my post to catsi.

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Naruto said she was trying to delude herself into believing she had absolutely no feelings left about Sasuke. I point out to you as well that in chapter 470 Naruto does not deny it, when Sakura angrily insists she is in love with Naruto- his temper goes away and his exp​ression shows he believes her.

It is shown later, when he talks to Sai that Naruto remains adamant on the fact that Sakura is in love with Sasuke. That has always been how he views her. While talking to Sakura, he couldn’t be completely sure, but he was still feeling that something was up with her.

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It's only when she brings up Sasuke and the POAL that they start arguing again. When Sai emphasizes Sakura has fallen in love with Naruto and that her actions were all for his sake, in 474, again the look is acceptance.


Not really...

Naruto: Does Sakura-chan really understand that?! Sakura-chan loves Sasuke, so how could she—

And later: Naruto: No way…she can’t…she likes Sasuke so much…

Next Sai confirms, she will kill Sasuke because she loves him. Sai was not mentioning a love in past tense. In fact, we have a translation by innera, a narusaku fan that proves this: Here.

Two confirmations that Naruto believes that Sakura still loves Sasuke romantically. It is backed by one confirmation from Sai.

During this entire convo, Naruto has looked upset, distressed, and angry. There is no happiness, no acceptance. He is upset.

But, to spare you from jumping to conclusions about whether I believe Sakura was lying or not, I recommend you look at my post above to ahmed since I do give my personal feelings about it.

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It's her change in her feelings about Sasuke and her willingness to try to kill him to keep him from harming Naruto and losing whatever was left of the Sasuke she had once adored that he first gets angry about then causes him to pass out about. The only person who says he loves Sasuke in those battle chapters is Kakashi, and yeah his actions show the least acceptance of seeing Sasuke as he is. He continues to try to reason with a person that has had a psychotic break with reality and relishes the thought of killing him. Sakura is the member of Team 7 who faced the reality of who Sasuke is , first.

Naruto passes out because his hope of seeing Team 7 together again was shattering... The truth was, Sakura still cared for Sasuke enough that she couldn't kill him. Kakashi cared enough to try to talk him out of it, but failed. Naruto cared enough to say he would die with him. All of them still love Sasuke.

Anyways, I received the volumes I won from the NaruSaku contest in the mail and in one of the volumes I got a trading card of Sakura XDD I thought it was funny that her [true allies] ability allowed you to search the deck for a Uzumaki Naruto card XDD Also, her given quote is: Naruto! Are you okay?

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 11:17 PM

QUOTE (hypno toad @ Sep 30 2010, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cloud you had to go back to july kruemelmonsteryn0.gif an then its barly even positive


Was my statement directed at you? No.

Let the adults talk. Here, why don't you try and sift through almost 80 pages of quotes.

See if you find anything. I'll give you a cookie.

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 11:22 PM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Sep 30 2010, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyways, I received the volumes I won from the NaruSaku contest in the mail and in one of the volumes I got a trading card of Sakura XDD I thought it was funny that her [true allies] ability allowed you to search the deck for a Uzumaki Naruto card XDD Also, her given quote is: Naruto! Are you okay?


I have that card too! biggrin.gif And they said its one heck of a card too (if you play it in the tournaments).

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 11:28 PM

our own interpretations. that's what kishi is trying to get from us by leaving these half made sentences and events for us.

by my own interpretation, sai's opinion of why sakura was going to kill sasuke kind of died in chapters 483-487. sakura herself revealed her intentions and reasons for wanting to kill sasuke.

1. "If I... kill sasuke-kun now... everything will be over!", meaning to put an end to all of the suffering he has caused and all of the problems that have come because of him.
2. "I can't let you carry the burden kakashi-sensei!" meaning she wanted to do this so that no else would have to have the burden.
3. "I'm supposed to be a ninja, but all I do is cry and rely on naruto, I was supposed to change that by coming here, but I couldn't do it." she wanted to carry her own weight and not have to give naruto as much baggage. this is her primary reason in my opinion.

this is my own interpretation mind you, but I don't think her love for sasuke ever came into play with this. Let's not forget that since chapter 458 came along, all of her concern has been towards naruto. she never even once showed concern for sasuke when she heard nor did she cry for him. (Those were the tears she had left over from naruto.) it was everyone else's opinion that she did it for sasuke.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 12:06 AM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Sep 30 2010, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll keep this in spoilers in case no one else is interested in this debate...

You could have saved yourself the time writing this LAP about how I, apparently, think Sakura is a lying jerk by reading my post above explaining my personal view. That obviously shows you are wrong. Even more, it’s rather rude of you to insinuate that I am anti-Sakura in any way because I point out her flaws.


Uhmmm... War ? Can't believe it happening in a FC. But I like it anyway, bashing Sakura has always been my favorite activity, despite her being my favorite character. Throughout the whole event, I'd give Sakura
8/10 for intention (personally I feel she should just ditch both Sasuke and Naruto to grow herself out of their emo struggle),
0/10 for strategy planning (she changed the plan completely, acted on her own accord, and backstabbed every single ally of hers. She's the worst disgrace of a Shinobi with such poor plan)
4/10 for acting skill (if she was gonna fake, I expect more from a ninja, the so-called master of deception and manipulation. I find it funny that people call her manipulative, while her manipulation skill sucks. She's a disgrace to other manipulators, the likes of Naruto, Nagato and Madara.)

All in all, she's a failure of friend, a teammate, a ninja, who tried to make things right. She tried to take the burden off Naruto, without even gauging herself for the task. She tried to save Naruto from a punishment of Danzo, and put the blame on herself, only to make things worse. She wanted to ressolve the issues of her teams, who have all left her behind, only to be ignored again.

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Naruto passes out because his hope of seeing Team 7 together again was shattering... The truth was, Sakura still cared for Sasuke enough that she couldn't kill him. Kakashi cared enough to try to talk him out of it, but failed. Naruto cared enough to say he would die with him. All of them still love Sasuke.


I beg to differ, Naruto passed out due to Sakura's poison. His fainting had nothing to do with hope or emotion.

Anyway, while your statement is indeed true, their friendship talk are getting boring and unbelievable. They have absolutely no reasoning, no legitimate argument to convince Sasuke, exept that they all care about Sasuke. They all know that Konoha would only bring more distraught, more painful memory to Sasuke, yet they constantly ignored Sasuke's one and only wish, to never see Konoha again. Truth is, all of them care more about their own ego, their self-righteousness than Sasuke.

Edited by holy_demon, 01 October 2010 - 12:08 AM.


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Posted 01 October 2010 - 12:19 AM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Sep 30 2010, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyways, I received the volumes I won from the NaruSaku contest in the mail and in one of the volumes I got a trading card of Sakura XDD I thought it was funny that her [true allies] ability allowed you to search the deck for a Uzumaki Naruto card XDD Also, her given quote is: Naruto! Are you okay?


Aww I got that card too! [And Kakashi] When I saw the quote I was like: Oh my goodness, how funny! XD

Anyway, there's a lot of 'hot' debating going on. I think we should cool down a bit. I'm sure- no positive Miss Soupy has no intention to bash Sakura or any other character. Neither should anybody on this forum. Its probably just a misunderstanding - so lets try to cool it you guys! =P

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 12:21 AM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Sep 30 2010, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll keep this in spoilers in case no one else is interested in this debate...
@ciardha

You could have saved yourself the time writing this LAP about how I, apparently, think Sakura is a lying jerk by reading my post above explaining my personal view. That obviously shows you are wrong. Even more, it’s rather rude of you to insinuate that I am anti-Sakura in any way because I point out her flaws. In return, I’d like to know why you have such an issue with doing this yourself, as I have never seen you say anything critical towards Sakura. In fact, you seem to think she can do no wrong, curious as she is the ‘normal girl’ type character. I have seen you time and time again criticize other characters, including Naruto, in defense of Sakura. Not only that, but I argue that you shouldn’t be bashing Hinata fans who worship Hinata when I see you worshipping Sakura. I can’t help but think it is oddly similar and somewhat ironic.


Kishimoto himself said that Sakura still had feelings for Sasuke. Since you like to use the interview so much, it was in every translation, including the one done by Fourangers, that he says this:
As for Sakura... Sasuke... what about Sasuke? Naruto is close and she worries about Naruto as well, but as expected, she [loves] Sasuke.

While the word love wasn’t added specifically, it is heavily implied. It is the same implication that was given when Yamato didn’t finish his line of “I've seen it, Sakura. I know just how much you...”

Kishi depicting an honest girl can mean many things. Sakura was doing what she honestly thought was right. Her intentions were honest. But once again, the average reader will not be sure whether to take her words as honest or not because they were coupled with a lie. That was the point of my post to catsi.


It is shown later, when he talks to Sai that Naruto remains adamant on the fact that Sakura is in love with Sasuke. That has always been how he views her. While talking to Sakura, he couldn’t be completely sure, but he was still feeling that something was up with her.



Not really...

Naruto: Does Sakura-chan really understand that?! Sakura-chan loves Sasuke, so how could she—

And later: Naruto: No way…she can’t…she likes Sasuke so much…

Next Sai confirms, she will kill Sasuke because she loves him. Sai was not mentioning a love in past tense. In fact, we have a translation by innera, a narusaku fan that proves this: Here.

Two confirmations that Naruto believes that Sakura still loves Sasuke romantically. It is backed by one confirmation from Sai.

During this entire convo, Naruto has looked upset, distressed, and angry. There is no happiness, no acceptance. He is upset.

But, to spare you from jumping to conclusions about whether I believe Sakura was lying or not, I recommend you look at my post above to ahmed since I do give my personal feelings about it.


Naruto passes out because his hope of seeing Team 7 together again was shattering... The truth was, Sakura still cared for Sasuke enough that she couldn't kill him. Kakashi cared enough to try to talk him out of it, but failed. Naruto cared enough to say he would die with him. All of them still love Sasuke.

Anyways, I received the volumes I won from the NaruSaku contest in the mail and in one of the volumes I got a trading card of Sakura XDD I thought it was funny that her [true allies] ability allowed you to search the deck for a Uzumaki Naruto card XDD Also, her given quote is: Naruto! Are you okay?


Soupy I will have to agree with you on this one. However you are missing one important detail everything Kishi has said in that interview is nothing but a big lie. That interview was made back at December 2009 it's September 2010 going to October almost a year since then and none of the things he had said has come true.

-He said that this year is Kakashi's year (still waiting for that to happen whatever that means).

-He said he was going to try and make Sakura look more heroic (still waiting for that to happen).

-He said that from now on Shikamaru was going to be Naruto's close friend (still waiting for that to happen).

So everything he said (minus the info on Naruto going to training again) is all a lie that includes the part of Sakura still loving Sasuke. I have mentioned before that mangaka never say spoilers in interviews they only say a general idea without giving too much information on the future events of their manga. The problem is as they write their manga they completely have different things in mind and completely change things so a lot of the things they say in interviews never happens. This is the main point why we should never trust, use interviews for pairing evidence or to use on debates.

About Sakura's confession Soupy I will have to disagree with you that it was a lie because of two things.

1. This information comes from Quinny that a confession can't be really a confession if it's a lie it has to be honest or true. Chapter 469 is tittlled" Sakura's confession" if it's tittle like that it means the chapter is alll about Sakura's confession which it must be true every word she has said except not caring for Sasuke (it's the truth she will always love Sasuke but the important thing she loves the old Sasuke from team seven not the new evil one). Just like 437's title "confession" which Hinata was telling the truth in her confession.

2. This information comes from catsi and she has already mentioned this a couple of times that Sakura had two things in mind during her confession (confessed her feelings for Naruto and trying to protect him from the rookies decision to kill Sasuke). And like she said too you can't look left and right at the same time that's what Sakura was trying to do and this is the exact reason why her confession sounded so fake and not believable.

I have always believe she was was being honest but with what I previously said above and not to mention that she said her confession and the wrong time and the wrong place, anyone can say she was lying.

If Sakura really loves Sasuke:

-She would have kill Karin without hesitating.

-She would have join Sasuke no question ask even if she will know that he wants to destroy Konoha.

-She wouldn't have gotten angry at him for insulting Naruto at 485 (which lead of her defending Naruto backing him up that he still sees Sasuke as his best friend).

I'm sorry but these things I have mentioned don't reflect a thing that she loves him romatically. However hesitating to kill Sasuke she couldn't do it not because she loves him romantically but because she cares for him deeply. Sasuke will always be her first crush and teammate from team seven, like ciardha has mentioned that team seven has a strong teammate bond like the sanins and the Ame orphans. She will always care for Sasuke because she will always see him as her friend (not caring that he tried to kill her twice in a row). But it doesn't mean that she loves him romantically this is the main problem why opposite fandoms still believes that she loves him (just because she couldn't kill him that they will obviously believe that she still has romantic feelings for him).

Edited by Gravenimage, 01 October 2010 - 12:36 AM.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 12:29 AM

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Woo! That's my boy right there! XD

Sorry, Graven-kun fangirl, lol.

Yes, it reminds of that show on I.D where women are so in love with there boyfriends/husbands that they would literally kill for there affection. Sakura isn't some sick girl - there's no way she'd give herself to Sasuke.

I don't think Sasuke's getting with anyone to be honest. He's too obsessed with one thing and one thing only.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 12:39 AM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Sep 30 2010, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Graven-kun

Woo! That's my boy right there! XD

Sorry, Graven-kun fangirl, lol.

Yes, it reminds of that show on I.D where women are so in love with there boyfriends/husbands that they would literally kill for there affection. Sakura isn't some sick girl - there's no way she'd give herself to Sasuke.

I don't think Sasuke's getting with anyone to be honest. He's too obsessed with one thing and one thing only.


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Posted 01 October 2010 - 01:13 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Sep 30 2010, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Soupy I will have to agree with you on this one. However you are missing one important detail everything Kishi has said in that interview is nothing but a big lie. That interview was made back at December 2009 it's September 2010 going to October almost a year since then and none of the things he had said has come true.

I don't like using the interview at all. I only brought it up because ciardha revolved her argument around it. Otherwise, I agree that interviews shouldn't be used as proof of anything. Kishi has been called a flake for a reason XD

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About Sakura's confession Soupy I will have to disagree with you that it was a lie because of two things.

1. This information comes from Quinny that a confession can't be really a confession if it's a lie it has to be honest or true. Chapter 469 is tittlled" Sakura's confession" if it's tittle like that it means the chapter is alll about Sakura's confession which it must be true every word she has said except not caring for Sasuke (it's the truth she will always love Sasuke but the important thing she loves the old Sasuke from team seven not the new evil one). Just like 437's title "confession" which Hinata was telling the truth in her confession.

Mmm, I'm not really sure if I can buy this. If that were so, I'd have to look at all the chapter covers as having meaning as well, which I don't. Titles and chapter covers don't necessarily tell us the truth about what is going on within the chapter itself. It was called a confession because Sakura did confess love. I don't see how if it being true or not changes that she was confessing something. And again, please don't assume I think she is lying -.-

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2. This information comes from catsi and she has already mentioned this a couple of times that Sakura had two things in mind during her confession (confessed her feelings for Naruto and trying to protect him from the rookies decision to kill Sasuke). And like she said too you can't look left and right at the same time that's what Sakura was trying to do and this is the exact reason why her confession sounded so fake and not believable.

I posted something on this...so I'm not going to repeat it.
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I have always believe she was was being honest but with what I previously said above and not to mention that she said her confession and the wrong time and the wrong place, anyone can say she was lying.

If Sakura really loves Sasuke:

-She would have kill Karin without hesitating.

-She would have join Sasuke no question ask even if she will know that he wants to destroy Konoha.

-She wouldn't have gotten angry at him for insulting Naruto at 485 (which lead of her defending Naruto backing him up that he still sees Sasuke as his best friend).

As I said, it is more complicated than her just being fully honest or not. Sakura, whether she loves Sasuke or not, isn't like she used to be. Even if she loved Sasuke still, she wouldn't give up her home for him. She wouldn't kill for him either. She has become so much more mature that it wouldn't cross her mind. That is why she was willing to kill him...she had things she wanted to protect. But, she also wanted to do it out of care for the Sasuke she used to know.

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I'm sorry but these things I have mentioned don't reflect a thing that she loves him romatically. However hesitating to kill Sasuke she couldn't do it not because she loves him romantically but because she cares for him deeply. Sasuke will always be her first crush and teammate from team seven, like ciardha has mentioned that team seven has a strong teammate bond like the sanins and the Ame orphans. She will always care for Sasuke because she will always see him as her friend (not caring that he tried to kill her twice in a row). But it doesn't mean that she loves him romantically this is the main problem why opposite fandoms still believes that she loves him (just because she couldn't kill him that they will obviously believe that she still has romantic feelings for him).

It's hard to let a first love go. In some cases you will always remember that love. I don't think she was completely over him, and I've given my reasons why. But I believe she will, because she will realize that Naruto is really everything she wants. I think Kishi will wait till the end to really show this.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 01:36 AM

now guys, I bring you the most likely event that could bring narusaku to be truly canon.

the infamous bench scene.

with sakura dreaming of what she wanted to hear from sasuke, thinking that could never happen, naruto was able to make her fantasy true. (By repeating what she thought exactly and in sasuke's form.) it provided us with more info on naruto's liking of sakura and sakura almost kissed her "Dream guy." but before things could escalate, "sasuke" had to go to the bathroom and then the real sasuke showed up and insulted sakura. leaving sakura with some small understanding of naruto's pain.

on the narusaku end, it provided us with naruto's deep reason for liking sakura, and that naruto, even though he may not have realized it, was able to make sakura's romantic fantasy come to life. and we found a similar situation with the minakushi parallel that proved if this were used again it could tie things up for us. (both of the blonde boys were able to complement both of their girls insecurities and make them feel special and beautiful.)

on the bad side, this event most likely made sakura like sasuke even more than she did before and gave her more hope for love from him after almost kissing him. some people may think that this is wrong, but I beg to differ, due the fact that sakura has actually referred back to that day on the bench.

now i ask you, how likely is it that the bench scene will be brought up again? and if it does, what will happen and how will sakura respond?

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 01:49 AM

In the current course of event, logically I don't think any character should involve themselves in romance. A war is looming on the horizon, hence romance and personal fantasy should be the last thing to worry about. Intention aside, both Hinata's and Sakura's confession were very irresponsible act, distracting Naruto and themselves from their duty to the village. Hormone isn't an excuse here, where the life of the entire village was on the line

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 02:06 AM

QUOTE (holy_demon @ Sep 30 2010, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In the current course of event, logically I don't think any character should involve themselves in romance. A war is looming on the horizon, hence romance and personal fantasy should be the last thing to worry about. Intention aside, both Hinata's and Sakura's confession were very irresponsible act, distracting Naruto and themselves from their duty to the village. Hormone isn't an excuse here, where the life of the entire village was on the line


Actually, that is wrong. The reason why romance can happen in certain events like this one because it can increase the dramatic effect and creates suspense on an event during storytelling. And since this is a action/drama genre story, romance will be like a "tag-along" (well in other words, a side). Alot of media shows this, when war becomes a plot device. (But, it doesn't count when the story is an actual action/war movie)

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#1576 holy_demon

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 02:30 AM

That's why I said, "logically". Movies and litterature tend to dramatize the romance aspect to the point of surrealism. In most case, romance in war was very rushed, due to the involved people's own lives being on the line. There're no place for argument or disagreement while they are struggling to keep themselves alive. It usually happened like this: "I love you", "Me too", "Let's marry", "Ok", *kiss* (which is exactly how I visionned NaruSaku to happen during a war)

The bench scene resolution can only be discussed after the war.

Of course, I do know that the media is all but logical.

Edited by holy_demon, 01 October 2010 - 02:32 AM.


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Posted 01 October 2010 - 02:36 AM

actually I disagree. im one of the most supportive of the bench scene. but I think it would be dealt with at a dramaticlly appropriate time, and that would be either just before a major battle, or during the middle of a dramatic moment of some sort.

The mangas shown a pattern of dramatic reveals at appropriate moments.
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Posted 01 October 2010 - 04:43 AM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Oct 1 2010, 04:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
. And again, please don't assume I think she is lying -.-


ok,but there something i cant understand about you:
if you think she wasn't lying..why you when sone one say something that she can't lying because of it,you quote him and talk like you think she is lying and
for exmple:
when graven talked about the title of the chapter is Confession, you said
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Mmm, I'm not really sure if I can buy this. If that were so, I'd have to look at all the chapter covers as having meaning as well, which I don't. Titles and chapter covers don't necessarily tell us the truth about what is going on within the chapter itself. It was called a confession because Sakura did confess love. I don't see how if it being true or not changes that she was confessing something. And again, please don't assume I think she is lying -.-

and not only these there more . and that's why for first time i think that you think that she was lying and quote you and ask you about your opinion
so,from how you talk any one can say that you think she was lying and never say something about why you think she wasn't lying,you only comment on who say that and i never see you defend on that she was honest mellow.gif
i see you defend about what the pairing in Kishi 's head (or somehing like that i can;t remember well)and i like that post,but never see you defend Sakura's confession

you know,if i am not think she was honest for a big reasons more than that, your posts could make me doubt on that she is honest...but in my head i had alot of reasons for why i am sure 100% that she isn't lying and can't be lying smile.gif

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and understand why the most of us thinking that you think she was lying
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and i always wanted to say what i said now

EDIT:i want to ask you(Soupy) onther thing:
you said before that you think she wasn't lying,are you sure of what you think or have doubt or you think also that she may be lying,and why?
Can i know?(i want only to know your opinion)you said before the other readers..........
i dont want to know how the other readers willl think because i know well,i want only to know your opinion

Lastly, i saw one said that sakura confessed to naruto becase:
1-she want to protect him and she think he will bleive her and go back town and he will be safe ,but she dosenot love him
2-she was lying to make him hate her becase she felt guilty for burden naruto the POAL
what is your opnion on that ,i know well my opnion

and i want to ask about something:is sakura decided to kill sasuke by her own hands even if Naruto believed her feelings for him (IN SAKURA'S HEAD)

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#1579 jason voorhees

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 06:57 AM

QUOTE (Cloud @ Sep 30 2010, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Was my statement directed at you? No.

Let the adults talk. Here, why don't you try and sift through almost 80 pages of quotes.

See if you find anything. I'll give you a cookie.


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as well i dont trust innera trans she is only a side shipper NS an a full ss fan you forgot to mention that.

kish was being specefic i belive in defence of sakura he isnt going to let anyonyone bash her in responce honest an determind girl to the hinata lovers.

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As for Sakura... Sasuke... what about Sasuke? Naruto is close and she worries about Naruto as well, but as expected, she [loves] Sasuke.
kish was vague it can as well mean naruto is close (as in close to hart) but she cares for sasuke.

Naruto was shown in the past thats what he had stuck in his head an sakura shatterd it i can go on.



as well i think im sticking with catsi sakura wasnt lying i found more than plenty of evidence of that.




What it comes down to is how you take the mang at what angle from past or presnt exsperence.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 07:03 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Sep 30 2010, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Such a statement I think would definitely fit Temari's personality. Sakura would more likely say, "Don't do something stupid!" and bonk his head, then throw her arms around Naruto and hug him tight. As far as Shikatema, unfortunately Kishimoto has said he won't be showing any romantic scenes for him- doesn't mean Shikatema won't happen, but more than likely means that anything will play out "off panel" - just as Asukure did.


Yeah, not to mention the foreshadowing with Kushina, Yoshino and Tsume.

(the part where Naruto said he finally understands Kiba and Shikamaru's fear of their mothers when he met Kushina)

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