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[Inferno180]

[Slextrem]

If Sakura learns a technique, like the Yin Seal, I'm not expecting her to be able to use it over night. First she needs to train to use it, which I'm assuming she hasn't done, as I'm sure she would have at least tried to use those powers by now if she possessed them already.

I don't expect her to be able to use a technique like those that Tsunade has used until after a time skip of some sort. Perhaps in an epilogue she will be shown with the Yin Seal mark on her forehead, and that would be an indication that she did train and learned how to properly use some of Tsunade's techniques. Or maybe Kishimoto will provide a small time skip sometime before the end of the series during which Sakura trains with Shizune and learns the secrets behind Tsunade's techniques, (assuming Shizune even knows how those techniques work). I'm not sure. Either way, I don't think anyone expects Sakura to turn up in the next few chapters ready and able to use Slug Sage Mode against Madara. If they are, they're going to be disappointed.

The truth of the matter is that Kishimoto has put her training on hold for far too long and it is now too late for her to learn any significant jutsu in time for any major upcoming battles. At the most, she might be shown using Summoning no Jutsu. Don't get your hopes up for anything else.

Edited by Slextrem, 07 April 2013 - 12:33 AM.

[Inferno180]

The yin seal does seem the most reasonable in my opinion, only because its the extension of mastery for Sakura's powers. I mean if Itachi's eye powers were the mastery for Sasuke (and yeah he had time to master it) well if Sakura gets anything this may need to be one asspull to accept if she can just suddenly use it or master it quickly if there is a break in the current fight against the ten tails, I mean the kages have to leave for the battlefield once we see the end of this current arc next week and have to meet up at some point, they can come in out of the blue but still there can be a break so they can "catch up" this is also due to the us needing to be able to see what happened to the 5 kages and whats going to happen to tsunade, I mean if she dies it could be a big development moment for Sakura to say goodbye.

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[TouKen4Life3g]

If Sakura learns a technique, like the Yin Seal, I'm not expecting her to be able to use it over night. First she needs to train to use it, which I'm assuming she hasn't done, as I'm sure she would have at least tried to use those powers by now if she possessed them already.

I don't expect her to be able to use a technique like those that Tsunade has used until after a time skip of some sort. Perhaps in an epilogue she will be shown with the Yin Seal mark on her forehead, and that would be an indication that she did train and learned how to properly use some of Tsunade's techniques. Or maybe Kishimoto will provide a small time skip sometime before the end of the series during which Sakura trains with Shizune and learns the secrets behind Tsunade's techniques, (assuming Shizune even knows how those techniques work). I'm not sure. Either way, I don't think anyone expects Sakura to turn up in the next few chapters ready and able to use Slug Sage Mode against Madara. If they are, they're going to be disappointed.

The truth of the matter is that Kishimoto has put her training on hold for far too long and it is now too late for her to learn any significant jutsu in time for any major upcoming battles. At the most, she might be shown using Summoning no Jutsu. Don't get your hopes up for anything else.

It's like I said, I don't think it will have training arc or anything. Naruto is the only to have that rights. Not even Sasuke has that right. Pretty much, I expect a montage of her training and then, we watch her result. That's how I see it. Not sure what she got now but we just wait and see.

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[Slextrem]

It's like I said, I don't think it will have training arc or anything. Naruto is the only to have that rights. Not even Sasuke has that right. Pretty much, I expect a montage of her training and then, we watch her result. That's how I see it. Not sure what she got now but we just wait and see.

My opinion is that, if she had something now, she would have been shown using it already. If we're going to assume that she already completed training for the techniques, we have to be able to put a time frame on when that training would have occurred.

When could Sakura have had the time to learn how to use the Yin Seal techniques?

A) During the original time skip? Then why hasn't she used these techniques at all until now? There have been many opportunities since then to try them out, like her fight with Sasori. There were moments where it seemed like Sakura and Chiyo were running out of options during that battle. Wouldn't that have been the perfect opportunity to use the Yin Seal techniques if she had already been trained to use them?

B) After the Gaara Rescue arc? Then why didn't she use those techniques when they were facing Orochimaru, and later, Sasuke? And again, when would she have had the time? Training would have taken more than a couple of days, which was all that Team Seven had before needing to be at the bridge to meet Sasori's spy.

C) During Naruto's training for the Rasen-Shurinken? Again, why didn't those techniques come out during the mission against Hidan and Kakuzu, or the tracking Itachi arc while they were fighting Tobi, or the Pain arc when the village was being destroyed?

D) She couldn't have trained when Naruto went to train in Sage Mode because she was busy studying the mystery behind the corpses that Jiraiya captured, along with Shikamaru and that other really weird girl, (I forget her name).

E) She couldn't have trained after the Pain arc because 1) Tsunade was unconscious, 2) She and Shizune were busy keeping her eye on Tsunade's condition, 3) we followed her for the majority of the time that followed that arc, (i.e. The Kage Summit). And again, if she had that kind of training under her belt, why did she not use it while facing an opponent like Sasuke?

F) Well, how about when Naruto is sent away to the island? Tsunade was busy with preparations for war, as was everyone else, and wouldn't have had the opportunity to train Sakura.

I'm more than positive that Sakura wouldn't have had time to train in the Yin Seal techniques in the middle of the war, so where can we stick her training in this timeline? Better yet, if she has mastered those techniques, why is the mark missing from her forehead?

This is easy to do with Sasuke. He doesn't really do anything in between his temper tantrums, and most of his "upgrades" don't require excessive training to use. Sakura, on the other hand, is an entirely different matter. Although she excels in chakra control and may be able to pick up the techniques quickly, (I assume), she still needs the appropriate training in order to master them.

Edited by Slextrem, 07 April 2013 - 01:05 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

My opinion is that, if she had something now, she would have been shown using it already. If we're going to assume that she already completed training for the techniques, we have to be able to put a time frame on when that training would have occurred.

When could Sakura have had the time to learn how to use the Yin Seal techniques?

A) During the original time skip? Then why hasn't she used these techniques at all until now?

B) After the Gaara Rescue arc? Then why didn't she use those techniques when they were facing Orochimaru, and later, Sasuke?

C) During Naruto's training for the Rasen-Shurinken? Again, why didn't those techniques come out during the mission against Hidan and Kakuzu, or the tracking Itachi arc while they were fighting Tobi, or the Pain arc when the village was being destroyed?

D) She couldn't have trained when Naruto went to train in Sage Mode because she was busy studying the mystery behind the corpses that Jiraiya captured, along with Shikamaru and that other really weird girl, (I forget her name).

E) She couldn't have trained after the Pain arc because 1) Tsunade was unconscious, 2) She and Shizune were busy keeping her eye on Tsunade's condition, 3) we followed her for the majority of the time that followed that arc, (i.e. The Kage Summit). And again, if she had that kind of training under her belt, why did she not use it while facing an opponent like Sasuke?

F) Well, how about when Naruto is sent away to the island? Tsunade was busy with preparations for war, as was everyone else, and wouldn't have had the opportunity to train Sakura.

I'm more than positive that Sakura wouldn't have had time to train in the Yin Seal techniques in the middle of the war, so where can we stick her training in this timeline? Better yet, if she has mastered those techniques, why is the mark missing from her forehead?

This is easy to do with Sasuke. He doesn't really do anything in between his temper tantrums, and most of his "upgrades" don't require excessive training to use. Sakura, on the other hand, is an entirely different matter. Although she excels in chakra control and may be able to pick up the techniques quickly, (I assume), she still needs the appropriate training in order to master them.

Oh I meant in general, not that technique. Sorry.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 07 April 2013 - 01:24 AM.

[Baguette]

My opinion is that, if she had something now, she would have been shown using it already. If we're going to assume that she already completed training for the techniques, we have to be able to put a time frame on when that training would have occurred.

When could Sakura have had the time to learn how to use the Yin Seal techniques?

A) During the original time skip? Then why hasn't she used these techniques at all until now? There have been many opportunities since then to try them out, like her fight with Sasori. There were moments where it seemed like Sakura and Chiyo were running out of options during that battle. Wouldn't that have been the perfect opportunity to use the Yin Seal techniques if she had already been trained to use them?

B) After the Gaara Rescue arc? Then why didn't she use those techniques when they were facing Orochimaru, and later, Sasuke? And again, when would she have had the time? Training would have taken more than a couple of days, which was all that Team Seven had before needing to be at the bridge to meet Sasori's spy.

C) During Naruto's training for the Rasen-Shurinken? Again, why didn't those techniques come out during the mission against Hidan and Kakuzu, or the tracking Itachi arc while they were fighting Tobi, or the Pain arc when the village was being destroyed?

D) She couldn't have trained when Naruto went to train in Sage Mode because she was busy studying the mystery behind the corpses that Jiraiya captured, along with Shikamaru and that other really weird girl, (I forget her name).

E) She couldn't have trained after the Pain arc because 1) Tsunade was unconscious, 2) She and Shizune were busy keeping her eye on Tsunade's condition, 3) we followed her for the majority of the time that followed that arc, (i.e. The Kage Summit). And again, if she had that kind of training under her belt, why did she not use it while facing an opponent like Sasuke?

F) Well, how about when Naruto is sent away to the island? Tsunade was busy with preparations for war, as was everyone else, and wouldn't have had the opportunity to train Sakura.

I'm more than positive that Sakura wouldn't have had time to train in the Yin Seal techniques in the middle of the war, so where can we stick her training in this timeline? Better yet, if she has mastered those techniques, why is the mark missing from her forehead?

This is easy to do with Sasuke. He doesn't really do anything in between his temper tantrums, and most of his "upgrades" don't require excessive training to use. Sakura, on the other hand, is an entirely different matter. Although she excels in chakra control and may be able to pick up the techniques quickly, (I assume), she still needs the appropriate training in order to master them.

Like Inferno, this is probably the one time that I'm going to hope for a complete asspull by Kishi that enables Sakura to obtain the power up during the war. If she were to learn something through the possible time-skip, I'm not entirely sure who would be left for her to fight. Sasuke? It would be quite the letdown for her to gain a new technique only to lose in battle using it.

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[Slextrem]

Like Inferno, this is probably the one time that I'm going to hope for a complete asspull by Kishi that enables Sakura to obtain the power up during the war. If she were to learn something through the possible time-skip, I'm not entirely sure who would be left for her to fight. Sasuke? It would be quite the letdown for her to gain a new technique only to lose in battle using it.

Don't worry. The series is far from over.

Personally, I like the idea of an encounter between Team Taka and Team Seven, with Sakura facing Juugo, Sai facing Suigetsu, and Kakashi facing Orochimaru. That's not out of the realm of possibility. I don't include Karin because, at this point, I'm not sure if she should still be considered a member of Team Taka. We'll find out soon enough.

I don't necessarily need to see Sakura learn any major techniques. I would like to see her improve on the skills that she already has, primarily her skills in genjutsu, since it's been brought up so many times. Red had a really interesting thought about Sakura's genjutsu abilities. Perhaps Sakura's power is not in performing genjutsu, but rather in recognizing and dismissing it. That could lead to a major role for her should Madara be able to succeed in his Moon Eye Plan, or assisting Naruto in the final showdown against Sasuke.

Edited by Slextrem, 07 April 2013 - 01:22 AM.

[Baguette]

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Don't worry. The series is far from over.

Personally, I like the idea of an encounter between Team Taka and Team Seven, with Sakura facing Juugo, Sai facing Suigetsu, and Kakashi facing Orochimaru. That's not out of the realm of possibility. I don't include Karin because, at this point, I'm not sure if she should still be considered a member of Team Taka. We'll find out soon enough.

I don't necessarily need to see Sakura learn any major techniques. I would like to see her improve on the skills that she already has, primarily her skills in genjutsu, since it's been brought up so many times. Red had a really interesting thought about Sakura's genjutsu abilities. Perhaps Sakura's power is not in performing genjutsu, but rather in recognizing and dismissing it. That could lead to a major role for her should Madara be able to succeed in his Moon Eye Plan, or assisting Naruto in the final showdown against Sasuke.

Maybe it's my fanboyism for Suigetsu, but I see Team Taka as antiheros rather than villains for the protagonists to fight at this point. Unless Orochimaru somehow starts manipulating them again, of course.
The genjutsu idea is actually kinda interesting, but as far as helping Naruto with Sasuke, I dunno. As a perfect Jinchuuriki, Naruto would logically be able to dispell most genjutsus placed upon him.

Edited by Baguette, 07 April 2013 - 01:29 AM.

[Tsubaki]

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I wonder how Tsunade got her seal mark... maybe from Mito when she was dying ..?!

[Baguette]

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I wonder how Tsunade got her seal mark... maybe from Mito when she was dying ..?!

Thanks!

If so, maybe Tsunade will pass the seal onto Sakura as she is dying?

[Slextrem]

omg looks awesome
Great work there; can I use it as my sig?


Maybe it's my fanboyism for Suigetsu, but I see Team Taka as antiheros rather than villains for the protagonists to fight at this point. Unless Orochimaru somehow starts manipulating them again, of course.
The genjutsu idea is actually kinda interesting, but as far as helping Naruto with Sasuke, I dunno. As a perfect Jinchuuriki, Naruto would logically be able to dispell most genjutsus placed upon him.

I also see them as antiheroes, and that's why I think it would be so neat to see them face off against the protagonists. I don't mean in a fight to the death or anything like that. A fight, definitely, but one that ends with each opponent coming to an understanding with one another. Naruto and Sasuke included. (Talk no Justu all around~ LOL. )

Bolded: Yeah, you're right... I was overlooking Naruto's strengths when I suggested that. Damn... It's hard to have other characters assist Naruto because of how ridiculously strong he's become.

On one hand, I'm really happy to see the results of Naruto's hardwork finally pay off, but on the other hand, it makes it difficult to have his old teammates fight alongside him and still be useful, (which makes me incredibly sad.) I was really hoping for a pre-battle with Sasuke & Team Taka where Naruto is supported by the rest of Team Seven. I want to see them play a role in that battle, but I guess it won't be alongside Naruto...

Edited by Slextrem, 07 April 2013 - 01:39 AM.

[Tsubaki]

Thanks!

If so, maybe Tsunade will pass the seal onto Sakura as she is dying?

yeah, that's my theory! maybe it's a seal that is passed through generations?! We don't know too much about it.

She did not have that seal mark when she was a child so she must have achieved it at some point... but how?! I bet Mito passed it to her.

Edited by Tsubaki, 07 April 2013 - 01:44 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

The yin seal does seem the most reasonable in my opinion, only because its the extension of mastery for Sakura's powers. I mean if Itachi's eye powers were the mastery for Sasuke (and yeah he had time to master it) well if Sakura gets anything this may need to be one asspull to accept if she can just suddenly use it or master it quickly if there is a break in the current fight against the ten tails, I mean the kages have to leave for the battlefield once we see the end of this current arc next week and have to meet up at some point, they can come in out of the blue but still there can be a break so they can "catch up" this is also due to the us needing to be able to see what happened to the 5 kages and whats going to happen to tsunade, I mean if she dies it could be a big development moment for Sakura to say goodbye.

Good point. We just have to wait and see. If she dies, it will effect both Naruto and Sakura. I know for Sakura, it will be a development, but for Naruto, I do wonder what will it be. Be a leader for the war? Anything can happen for him.

[Baguette]

I also see them as antiheroes, and that's why I think it would be so neat to see them face off against the protagonists. I don't mean in a fight to the death or anything like that. A fight, definitely, but one that ends with each opponent coming to an understanding with one another. Naruto and Sasuke included. (Talk no Justu all around~ LOL. )

Bolded: Yeah, you're right... I was overlooking Naruto's strengths when I suggested that. Damn... It's hard to have other characters assist Naruto because of how ridiculously strong he's become.

On one hand, I'm really happy to see the results of Naruto's hardwork finally pay off, but on the other hand, it makes it difficult to have his old teammates fight alongside him and still be useful, (which makes me incredibly sad.) I was really hoping for a pre-battle with Sasuke & Team Taka where Naruto is supported by the rest of Team Seven. I want to see them play a role in that battle, but I guess it won't be alongside Naruto...

Naruto really has gone down the DBZ route as of late. I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of Team 7 simply ends up watching the final battle from the sidelines and commenting here and there in the same way that Goku's friends do.

[Inferno180]

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Maybe it's my fanboyism for Suigetsu, but I see Team Taka as antiheros rather than villains for the protagonists to fight at this point. Unless Orochimaru somehow starts manipulating them again, of course.
The genjutsu idea is actually kinda interesting, but as far as helping Naruto with Sasuke, I dunno. As a perfect Jinchuuriki, Naruto would logically be able to dispell most genjutsus placed upon him.

Baguette, I think Sakura's affinity for genjutsu is detecting and repelling it, she has a natural resilience to it. Think of it like the oldest of magic tropes, if you are smart enough to know the magic, you know how to break it. Heck this can even work in many RPGs like the older final fantasys, many mage or magic type characters take less damage or effect from magical techniques, generally in those games it made it so something like confusion or getting put to sleep was much harder for them

Basically Sakura can be thought of like this, she is smart she can detect and repell it, other guys like Shikamaru have a natural defense against this.

One thing I like about Naruto though, no matter how good he got, he is still vulnerable to genjutsu, especially against Obito or Madara who can take away his Kurama advantage. Usually this was Naruto's biggest weakness, he could get very strong but always be weak when it came to disturbing the senses. Only way Naruto could break a genjustu on his own was if he had enough of his own will or if Kurama upsurped him and gave him an energy rush to break it.

As for the DBZ stuff, I'd say Naruto entered that when the fight against Obito began with the 6 edo jinchurki. We have not seen any mountain blasting until this battle. Earliest giant battle was in part one when Naruto faced gaara, but that only knocked down a wide space of trees, the collateral damage was not like what we are seeing now.

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@Slextrem

Yeah, given that the sharingan can already cast OP genjutsu to me it seems irrelevant for Sakura to use that as well. So the most logical alternative lies in her ability to dispel them. That actually sound like a better asset against the current fights.

About Sakura learning Tsunade's or Hashirama's technique, up until the Sasori arc, yeah, there's no excuse for Sakura not using it so I'm sure she didn't know it at that time. But afterwards as it's been painfully obvious Sakura hasn't been in a serious confrontation that is able to push her to the limits, therefore there has been no need for her to utilize any new technique that she could've learned. I mean, it took unlimited chakra immortal Madara combined with Hashi's wood powers for Tsunade to finally say "screw it" and use the Strength of a Hundred.

Whether we notice or not there has been downtime here and there and as for how people used up the entirety of that time it's only up to speculation. We can't assume there wasn't time if there isn't a panel that confirms one has been busy doing something that didn't give them time to train.