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#15661 rocci

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 10:50 PM

Tsundere in this manga is sasuke and kurama.
Sakura is more normal tomboy character, with fangirl aspect.
I think.

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Edited by rocci, 30 November 2014 - 10:52 PM.


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Posted 30 November 2014 - 11:13 PM

 

Ugh. I live in NZ.

 

Everyone, do the Naruto fandom a favour and try to avoid talking about Naruto to others. The less people hear about it, the less people will want to see the movie. Unless they bring it up, then just be honest and tell them the truith: it's all about naruhina and nothing else. Vote with your dollar -- or your lack of it.

 

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 11:34 PM

I really don't care if Hinata is the moe waifu material character who dares not to speak against her lord husband because of ~love~. It just bothers me how the plot of this movie is built around naruhina and goes into hilarious lengths to twist any narusaku development just to make the couple look plausible.

- Kushina's words to Naruto became an obstacle needed to be overcome for NH. Nevermind that Naruto was happy to call Sakura his girlfriend so late in the manga, he really didn't want to, Kushina made him do it!

- Naruto only used Sakura as an object in his rivalry with Sasuke. Just ignore the fact that Naruto liked Sakura before Team 7 was formed, or that he never showed any interest in Ino, Tenten, Temari or the rest if the girls in his class that were fawning over Sasuke. It doesn't matter if Naruto comes out looking like a jackass after all this, because Hinata!

- Sakura was right about Naruto all along, he didn't understand her at all. That POAL scene where Sakura realises Naruto understood her pain of unrequited love? Nope. Never happened.

- Sakura had to marry a man who has tried to murder her several times and is never home. Those pages about that love-letter nin pointing out Sasuke isn't a "great guy"? Those big "false smile" panels? They mean nothing. The important thing here is that she didn't dare stray from her man, therefore she is not a terrible whore.

- Hinata is both the poor black sheep of her clan and surrounded by people who love her. She next anime episode will feature Hanabi cuddling Hinata, like the evil little sister she is.

- Hinata is the strongest person alive. Hamura's powers handed to her and that she defeats Toneri with a rasengan. Yep, you heard it right.

Edited by Nefertieh, 30 November 2014 - 11:38 PM.

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 11:40 PM

I really don't care if Hinata is the moe waifu material character who dares not to speak against her lord husband because of ~love~. It just bothers me how the plot of this movie is built around naruhina and goes into hilarious lengths to twist any narusaku development just to make the couple look plausible.

- Kushina's words to Naruto became an obstacle needed to be overcome for NH. Nevermind that Naruto was happy to call Sakura his girlfriend so late in the manga, he really didn't want to, Kushina made him do it!

- Naruto only used Sakura as an object in his rivalry with Sasuke. Just ignore the fact that Naruto liked Sakura before Team 7 was formed, or that he never showed any interest in Ino, Tenten, Temari or the rest if the girls in his class that were fawning over Sasuke. It doesn't matter if Naruto comes out looking like a jackass after all this, because Hinata!

- Sakura was right about Naruto all along, he didn't understand her at all. That POAL scene where Sakura realises Naruto understood her pain of unrequited love? Nope. Never happened.

- Sakura had to marry a man who has tried to murder her several times and is never home. Those pages about that love-letter nin pointing out Sasuke isn't a "great guy"? Those big "false smile" panels? They mean nothing. The important thing here is that she didn't dare stray from her man, therefore she is not a terrible whore.

- Hinata is both the poor black sheep of her clan and surrounded by people who love her. She next anime episode will feature Hanabi cuddling Hinata, like the evil little sister she is.

- Hinata is the strongest person alive. Hamura's powers handed to her and that she defeats Toneri with a rasengan. Yep, you heard it right.

The second point really pisses me off the most. They went out of their way to destroy Naruto and Sakura's bond just so NH can look good I guess? I don't really know what the hell they were thinking.


Edited by RedFaction, 30 November 2014 - 11:44 PM.

 


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Posted 30 November 2014 - 11:44 PM

 

 

- Hinata is the strongest person alive. Hamura's powers handed to her and that she defeats Toneri with a rasengan. Yep, you heard it right. 

 

... uhm, what? ... is this ... a guess ... or? ...  :twitch:


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Posted 30 November 2014 - 11:47 PM

- Hinata is the strongest person alive. Hamura's powers handed to her and that she defeats Toneri with a rasengan. Yep, you heard it right.

If this will come true, then... I think b*tch slap is created entirely for only purpose - to be done to people who made this into a movie.


Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 30 November 2014 - 11:49 PM.


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Posted 30 November 2014 - 11:53 PM

I might end up watching the Last for the same reason I watched all the Twilight movies. I'll sit there, experience every asspull and nonsense, just to make fun of how crappy and hilariously stupid it really is.


Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 30 November 2014 - 11:54 PM.

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Posted 30 November 2014 - 11:59 PM

I might end up watching the Last for the same reason I watched all the Twilight movies. I'll sit there, experience every asspull and nonsense, just to make fun of how crappy and hilariously stupid it really is.

I don't think it's worth it. This movie is only going to serve the purpose of glorifying Hinata and ruining Naruto and Sakura's development. That's all I can see from the spoilers we're getting. The Naruto in this movie is like a completely different guy he's selfish, envious, and gets angry really easily. I don't get why they felt the need to do that. I'm really lost.


Edited by RedFaction, 01 December 2014 - 12:00 AM.

 


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 12:01 AM

I might end up watching the Last for the same reason I watched all the Twilight movies. I'll sit there, experience every asspull and nonsense, just to make fun of how crappy and hilariously stupid it really is.


Someone should make a video of it making fun of every retcon moment and upload it on youtube. XD It would p*ss off the NH fans bad. ;)

Edited by Aizen-Sama, 01 December 2014 - 12:01 AM.


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 12:01 AM

Hinata has hamura power?
AHAHAHAHAHA what the kitten.
This is not even a joke anymore.

Kaguya need asspull fruit to become strong and her offensive ability come from kimimaro bone attack.

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 12:27 AM

@RedFaction:

 

That's one of the things I hate the most about this movie. Kishimoto made Naruto look so petty and immature about love. He probably doesn't realize it, but retconning Naruto's love for Sakura made him look so bad. Only caring about one-upping Sasuke? I'd expect that from Early Part 1 Naruto, not this adult one who had feelings for Sakura that lasted for years. And I'm absolutely shocked Sakura truly believes that's all his feelings were now. What happened to Sakura who acknowledged Naruto's love? Who was actually guilty she hadn't realized it earlier?

 

The most heart-breaking thing for me though is The Last movie is portraying Naruto's love for Hinata as selfish, a little obsessive, and self-pitying when it doesn't go his way. The Naruto I knew wouldn't be like that if he thought the girl he loved didn't love him back. He would be strong about it, be selfless and simply be happy she was happy. That's what was so beautiful about him, but instead we get this mess with the emotional maturity of a 12-year old.

 

Naruto and NaruSaku were amazing because they both showed selfless, pure love. What Kishi is telling us now in his message is that none of that was real. The only true love is shallow, hero-worship, selfish love. There's no such thing as selfless love.


Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 01 December 2014 - 12:46 AM.

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 12:44 AM

Someone should make a video of it making fun of every retcon moment and upload it on youtube. XD It would p*ss off the NH fans bad. ;)

I second that idea.

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 12:49 AM

@RedFaction:

 

That's one of the things I hate the most about this movie. Kishimoto made Naruto look so petty and immature about love. He probably doesn't realize it, but retconning Naruto's love for Sakura made him look so bad. Only caring about one-upping Sasuke? I'd expect that from Early Part 1 Naruto, not this adult one who had feelings for Sakura that lasted for years. And I'm absolutely shocked Sakura truly believes that's all his feelings were now. What happened to Sakura who acknowledged Naruto's love? Who was actually guilty she hadn't realized it earlier?

 

The most heart-breaking thing for me though is The Last movie is portraying Naruto's love for Hinata as selfish, a little obsessive, and self-pitying when it doesn't go his way. The Naruto I knew wouldn't be like that if he thought the girl he loved didn't love him back. He would be strong about it, be selfless and simply be happy she was happy. That's what was so beautiful about him, but instead we get this mess with the emotional maturity of a 12-year old.

 

Naruto and NaruSaku were amazing because they both showed selfless, pure love. What Kishi is telling us now in his message is that none of that was real. The only true love is shallow, hero-worship, selfish love. There's no such thing as selfless love.

I swear it's like part 1 Naruto is more mature than the Naruto in the Last. Just look at this scene.

 

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That was really mature of him, and I don't take him as being jealous or envious there. Sigh I don't know what the hell Kishimoto was thinking for this movie.


Edited by RedFaction, 01 December 2014 - 12:50 AM.

 


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 01:00 AM

Making Naruto give up on Sakura goes against his character. He's the type of guy to never give up.

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 01:08 AM

I swear it's like part 1 Naruto is more mature than the Naruto in the Last. Just look at this scene.
 
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That was really mature of him, and I don't take him as being jealous or envious there. Sigh I don't know what the hell Kishimoto was thinking for this movie.

Kishimoto: It was just a joke, laugh at it. It's funny, right?

How can people believe it was just a joke? Look at that incomplete smile. I feel really bad for Naruto right now. I always said Hinata could make him happy, but no could have made him happier than Sakura. I will die believing that, no joke.

Edited by yellowflash, 01 December 2014 - 01:12 AM.


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 01:12 AM

No one from Sweden? :(. But nice to see some from Scandinavians here

I was actually referring to your comment as well.  :happy:

 

So yeah, Sweden is very much welcome to join the fight against the evil retconning forces of Kishi.  :D


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 01:42 AM

"Sasuke always liked Sakura and Naruto knew that so he tried to one-up him by pursuing Sakura"

 

Is that what Kishi's trying to tell us with this? God please no. It's full of too much BS to be shoved down our throats.  :wot:


Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 01 December 2014 - 01:42 AM.

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 01:50 AM

"Sasuke always liked Sakura and Naruto knew that so he tried to one-up him by pursuing Sakura"
 
Is that what Kishi's trying to tell us with this? God please no. It's full of too much BS to be shoved down our throats.  :wot:

What? Who said Sasuke always liked Sakura?

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 01:51 AM

I swear it's like part 1 Naruto is more mature than the Naruto in the Last. Just look at this scene.

 

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That was really mature of him, and I don't take him as being jealous or envious there. Sigh I don't know what the hell Kishimoto was thinking for this movie.

That face...and this kittening scene:

It kills me...  :ermm:


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 01:57 AM

That face...and this kittening scene:

It kills me...  :ermm:

The butthurt NH fans got what they wanted.

 

That flashback meant nothing. :zaru:

 

Because kitten logic.


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