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#15641 KnS

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 10:56 PM

So from your perspective either Sai doesn't know anything he's talking about (despite being know as an exposition character for feelings), or Sakura focuses more on Sasuke despite the events that happened in Konoha clearly showing how Naruto was her priority?

 

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Okay, this is going to be my last attempt to make myself clear on this whole Sai business.

 

* In this post, I acknowledged Sai's obvious role as an exposition character, a point I have made myself many times.

 

* In the same post I said I more or less default to the opinion that Sai's words and interpretation of Sakura's feelings are meant to be accepted as correct.  It's what Kishimoto wants us to think or he wouldn't have written it that way.

 

* In the same post I conceded that while we were never shown how Sai could possibly have known Sakura's intimate feelings about Sasuke or the reasons behind the actions she was willing to take, Kishimoto took the shortcut of using Sai for exposition, expecting readers would accept that Sai knew what he was talking about for certain.

 

* Sakura did choose Naruto's safety and released him from the promise over Sasuke (another point I have championed on this forum many times), and Sai makes that very clear. 

 

However, I still maintain that Sai's comments -- especially his final answer to Naruto about how Sakura could bring herself to kill Sasuke -- can be interpreted as seriously harmful to Sakura's credibility, and to the believability of her very real feelings for Naruto during the confession.  Here's why:

 

+ Sakura appears and tells Naruto she loves him.
+ Naruto wants to believe it, but ultimately doubts her and is suspicious of the timing.
+ Sakura explains her change of heart and mind.
+ Naruto accuses her of lying to herself.
+ Sakura gets angry, saying she knows her own mind and how she feels.
+ After Sakura leaves, Sai immediately tells Naruto that Sakura did not come there to confess her love.
+ Sai tells Naruto, "She was only thinking of you, and I think you understood that."
+ Naruto asks how Sakura could be okay with killing Sasuke.
+ Sai says (no less than three times) that she's motivated to do it because she loves Sasuke.

 

For me, the distinction lies in Sai's choice of words.  In terms of Naruto, Sai says Sakura was "thinking of him" and his well being, but in terms of Sasuke he says it's "because she loves him."  He reiterates it three times -- just in case anyone missed it.

 

The implication of Sai's explanation is that Sakura cares about Naruto and his well being enough to choose him over Sasuke, but it is Sasuke she loves. 

 

The bitter cherry on top is when Sai tells Naruto that Sakura is prepared for Naruto to hate her forever because of her decision.  Here again, the implication is that Naruto's well being is important, but not necessarily his feelings. 

 

Sai makes it clear that Sakura could have let Shikamaru and the others take care of Sasuke, but Sakura chose instead to risk Naruto's love for her turning into hate because she wanted to take the burden of her love for Sasuke off Naruto and back onto herself.  It was a choice -- an atonement -- for Naruto's well being and to repay his devotion to her, but also because she loves Sasuke.

 

In summary, Sai basically says:

 

+ Sakura never intended to confess her love to Naruto.
+ Sakura was thinking of Naruto's well being, but she loves Sasuke.
+ Sakura was willing to let Naruto hate her forever.

 

* Those three things are in contrast to Sakura's own words to Naruto about her feelings.  That's why I say that it is Sai's explanation that made Sakura's confession seem false. 

 

Considering it's likely that more fans interpret Sakura's confession as false than true -- and I'm not talking about just the haters; we have NS fans on this site who believe it was false -- it's also likely that in terms of swaying public opinion, Sai's comments made Sakura look worse not better.

 

Now....

 

As I have said many, many, MANY times out here, I personally do not believe Sakura was false in the confession of her feelings for Naruto.  I think she does love Naruto more in every way than she does Sasuke, and she chose to move forward with Naruto.  She made the choice between the two without hesitation, and made it clear she had been getting things wrong and didn't want to screw up anymore.

 

Shikamaru convinced her Sasuke needed to be stopped, even if it meant killing him, and sought Team 7's permission -- a right of first refusal kind of thing.  What we were shown was Sakura accepting the responsibility for killing Sasuke because she knew Naruto would never allow it, and she could atone for what she had put him through by taking care of it herself -- for Naruto's sake.  Sakura's decision had nothing to do with Sasuke, or loving Sasuke, at least as far as readers were shown.

 

But that's not what Sai reported.  Instead Sai said she chose Naruto's well being above all else, and chose to be the one to kill Sasuke herself because of her love for him and the trouble it has caused Naruto -- even if Naruto would hate her forever. 

 

Kishimoto never showed us anything like that in terms of Sakura's words, actions, or thoughts.  Nevertheless, he had Sai explain it as her true motives, so we have to accept it even if it's conflicting and nonsensical.  And he wonders why fans thought Sakura was insincere....  :wallbash:

 

You know, maybe we could asks our japanese users if they have any insight about how the japanese forums saw Sai's explanation back then. Maybe the original raw give a slightly different meaning to what Sai said. Or at the very least they could give different insights about it.

 

It would be interesting to know, for posterity, but it ultimately won't change anything.  What matters to English readers is the English translation.  It is upon that version that Sai's explanation influences their opinion of Sakura and her confession.



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 11:10 PM

My apologies 

 

I'm still confused that if the confession wasn't fake, then whats the deal with chapter 540 and no implications that she was thinking of Naruto


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 11:23 PM

I think the reason she wasn't thinking of naruto, was because when the fodder ninja said that if she loved him, he must be a great guy or something, I don't even know the exact quote, but she thought of Sasuke because she knew he was in the wrong path that obviously wasn't 'a good guy'. 

 

Though, if I'm wrong you guys just ignore this. lol. 



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 11:43 PM

My only problem with that is that clearly wasn't the context Kishi was giving.

 

The context was that the person she must love must be a great guy so she thought of the one she loved (Sasuke) who is not a great guy and made her feel bad because of it. I'm pretty sure if she did realize she loved Naruto at the time he would have atleast crossed her mind or Kishi would have left some form of ambiguity there but as far as things go I think he was pretty clear.


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Posted 14 March 2014 - 01:06 AM

One would ask why is this setup even going on? This cannot be a huge coincidence.

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 01:13 AM

@KnS

 

Ok, now I think I understand how you feel about the whole situation better. I don't see the circumstances of Sakura's feelings the same way as you do, but I'll just leave that as a difference in opinion.

 

I get now how Sai's explanation goes in contrast with your views on Sakura. Since I view Sakura's feelings in a different way Sai's explanation actually fits ok with me.

 

And just so you know, I appreciate that you take the time to give elaborate smart responses like these. Your posts are always enjoyable to read even when I disagree with some aspects.

 

Shikamaru convinced her Sasuke needed to be stopped, even if it meant killing him, and sought Team 7's permission -- a right of first refusal kind of thing.  What we were shown was Sakura accepting the responsibility for killing Sasuke because she knew Naruto would never allow it, and she could atone for what she had put him through by taking care of it herself -- for Naruto's sake.  Sakura's decision had nothing to do with Sasuke, or loving Sasuke, at least as far as readers were shown.

 

But that's not what Sai reported.  Instead Sai said she chose Naruto's well being above all else, and chose to be the one to kill Sasuke herself because of her love for him and the trouble it has caused Naruto -- even if Naruto would hate her forever.

 

I still see Sakura's decision to be more as what you described in the first paragraph. Sai's explanation really doesn't make me think otherwise.

 

Sakura is still acting mainly out of atonement to Naruto, for his sake, but since her feelings for Sasuke are still there she can't just turn them off and kill him willy-nilly. That's why Naruto refused to believe she could do it ("No way... she likes Sasuke so much"), and why Sai explained that Sakura was instead visualizing the death of Sasuke as positive (saving him from darkness), in order to reduce the emotional burden of killing someone you love.

 

Instead of being how Sakura chooses to kill Sasuke because she loves him, it's more of how Sakura could kill Sasuke because she loves him.

 

It goes back to what I said of differentiating between reasons and justifications. But I understand that this is only how I view it and that you have a different perspective in all this matter. I just prefer to see how all the dots can possibly be connected instead of viewing certain situations as being inconsistent.

 

Since I don't think it was Kishi's intent to make the audience feel confused I wanna try to see how all events can make sense as Kishi wanted them to. But that's just me.



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Posted 14 March 2014 - 02:21 AM

One would ask why is this setup even going on? This cannot be a huge coincidence.

Referring to what specifically?


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Posted 14 March 2014 - 02:21 AM

Referring to what specifically?

The current event.



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Posted 14 March 2014 - 02:46 AM

Whats this building up to?

 

off-paneling Sakura's reaction to make way for more fighting and flashbacks

 

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 05:49 AM

We don't know, but it's something to keep eye on.

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 07:27 AM

I just prefer to see how all the dots can possibly be connected instead of viewing certain situations as being inconsistent.

 

Since I don't think it was Kishi's intent to make the audience feel confused I wanna try to see how all events can make sense as Kishi wanted them to. But that's just me.

 

Honestly, I think we're doing the same thing -- we're just approaching it from different directions.  :)
 
I try to avoid the Kishimoto-bashing bandwagon by assuming he's being inconsistent, but I have to admit that from the first time I read Sai's explanation in #474 it struck me that he contradicted Sakura and made her look dishonest.  My impression never improved, no matter how many times I read it -- even trying to read it the way you do.
 
I can never settle in my mind how Sakura could go from the tent scene -- where she found out Naruto loved her and she realized she'd been getting things wrong and didn't want to make any more mistakes -- to then turn around and lie to Naruto's face about loving him.  And not just loving him like a brother, but loving him the way she had loved Sasuke.  She said she had switched from Sasuke to Naruto.  It's clear she meant for Naruto to understand she loved him romantically.
 
So I considered the possibility that Sai was mistaken about some aspects of her feelings and motives.  After all, he's been wrong about feelings before, right?  It's part of his characterization.  And in his own flashbacks Sakura is shown off by herself thinking, and that Sai offered to help her shoulder the burden but she doesn't take him into her confidence.  So I've always wondered how he could have described her private feelings and motivations so specifically to Naruto when he couldn't actually have known what they were...?
 
I thought that maybe it would later be revealed that Sai was wrong about some of his guesses, and that Kishimoto had used Sai's sincere but inaccurate representation of Sakura's motives as a way of prolonging the suspense of who Sakura really loved.  
 
Then Kishimoto was questioned about Sakura's confession, and confirmed that he had written her as an honest and determined (or stubborn) girl.  That reinforced my belief that Sakura had not lied to Naruto, and that she was genuinely indignant when Naruto didn't believe she knew her own heart.  I then believed that Sakura was only guilty of thinking she didn't care at all about Sasuke -- a truth that Naruto called her on.
 
Overall, the part that really bugs me is Naruto's steadfast belief that Sakura loves Sasuke so much, and Sai confirmed it over and over -- while Sakura said she didn't and loved Naruto.  If Kishimoto said she was honest, was she truly honest or just honest in trying to convince herself she was being honest?  Or both?

 

The context was that the person she must love must be a great guy so she thought of the one she loved (Sasuke) who is not a great guy and made her feel bad because of it. I'm pretty sure if she did realize she loved Naruto at the time he would have atleast crossed her mind or Kishi would have left some form of ambiguity there but as far as things go I think he was pretty clear.

 

Well, that's certainly the prevailing opinion so you're not alone.  But there is another way to look at it.  
 
The first part of the Love Letter-nin scene is at the end of #539.  He holds out the envelope and tells Sakura it's a love letter, and her response is, "Thank you, but there's someone else I--"  
 
When she says it there's no indication that she's sad or disappointed in herself or depressed.  She's normal.  Then the scene breaks and the chapter ends with the suspicion about Neji.  A week later, the next chapter opens with the Lover Letter-nin saying, "If it somebody that you like, they're bound to be a great person."  
 
Because the scene is broken by action and separated by a week, it's possible that the first guy she referred to -- "there's someone else I--" -- is Naruto.  After all, she had just declared she loved Naruto in front of witnesses, and when she asked him if he didn't want her to just say so he didn't deny it.  So for all intents and purposes she had committed herself to Naruto.  Looking at it that way, it makes sense that she was fine during the first part of the scene.
 
But when the Love Letter-nin said if he was someone she liked he must be great, she thought of Sasuke -- as if not everyone she has liked has been a good person, and that she hurt a good person (Naruto) because of it.  The Lover-nin was speaking in present tense because it's all he knows about, but it doesn't necessarily mean that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke were present tense.
 
That's why some people believe that the panel of her looking depressed and thinking of Sasuke is a red herring.  Because it was actually disconnected from the part of the conversation where she said she already had someone -- Naruto.
 
Of course, all of this is wildly contested and I think that's exactly why Kishimoto wrote it that way.  He writes scenes in ways that are open to interpretation and confusion, so no one can be 100% certain until the end.  Everyone has to make up their own mind what they think it means.


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Posted 14 March 2014 - 10:48 AM

"We will not let you enter the building until you give us the real ending!!!!!"

bwahahahaha. I'll say 'Riots time' B). And by real ending do you mean the 'real' Naruto ending or Naruto X Sakura ending? XD. I prefer the latter, honestly.

 

Oh if that happened I would have to head to Japan lol and say we need an ending but I won't go crazy like some others fans we all know and love.

 

I say Hijack the building lol

Take Kishimoto hostage I say and then we will force him for an NS ending LOL XD (Just kidding btw)


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Posted 14 March 2014 - 12:20 PM

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan O_o I've been gone a few days and come back to see all the nervousness of NS being canon or not and talks of What's Sakura's feelings truly are!?!? People people we can talk all we want about the 100 different topics regarding NS for as long as we are still breathing!!! But we must never forget of what's the most important thing, something we can all agree too and what this site is based off from, that we all truly believe without a shadow of a doubt that Naruto and Sakura being lovers is the right thing to become true!!! We've all had some similar experiences to what either naruto or Sakura have done and we can relate to them better then most people out there can understand. But when reading the story and seeing them together as much as they have, we all get the "click" in our heads that say "It's them!!! It's definitely THEM!!!" We all understand unconsciously, not from our heads but from our hearts that those 2 together works out more them any other pairing in the series despite the setbacks or criticism it gets.

And Kishi is an incredible writer as well for making this series as great as he has made it!!! For years he has been hearing his fans loving his work over and over again and there is no way he hasn't stopped listening about the pairings he has introduced into the series and how much attention they get. He's made it obvious over and over again that there is "love" in this shounen battle manga and that he his going to end the manga with a climax to that "love" with his ideal ending. Recent events in the manga have shown of what direction Kishi is following regarding the pairings and the end of the manga drawing near. We should all just enjoy the ride while it lasts cause in the end we are still all NARUTO fans.

And regarding Sakura's feelings......yeah I agree with what everyone is saying. They Are CONFUSING!!!!! XD but hey what's love without a few bumps here and there on the road? Kishi has said that it's hard for him to bring out a girls characteristics and feelings out in his work (not sure if I got that right so correct me if I'm wrong) so im not that really worried about Sakura's fake confession and how it was portrayed. Cause despite Kishi not being able to show us a complete understanding of the situation, it's clear he was trying to show a "turning point" in team 7's story and how it was going to go on from there to the end. Sasuke being led into darkness cause of his clans legacy, Sakura feeling that she hasn't done anything at all to change her teams predicament decides to take matters into her own hands and kill the guy she loves despite the burden it carries and Naruto coming to grips of what he must do for Sasuke as his friend.

And after the reunion we all felt that sudden change in the air in team 7's unpredictable outcome. Sasuke has since then molded and sharpened the darkness within him to his own and made himself an anti-hero. Sakura has seen for what Sasuke has done and become and now feels saddened she fell for a "not so great guy" and knows that Naruto loves her, so she doesn't know what her feelings are right now (mainly because she is in a war lol). And naruto.............well him just being Naruto basically cause we all know what he is like and how he feels so there ain't much to look into much from there cause we all know!!! X) So whatever people say about the fake confession doesn't really matter cause in the end it gave us a hint of where Kishi is going with this and that's all that mattered!!!

He didn't do it in a way we could all understand it completely, but he gave us just enough to see the outlining of the large puzzle that is Naruto/team7/NS!! Only a few more pieces left and it'll be complete.......and it'll be fantastic XD

"Good men mean well in what they do, they just don't always end up doing well." X)

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 01:57 PM

Well, that's certainly the prevailing opinion so you're not alone.  But there is another way to look at it.  

 
The first part of the Love Letter-nin scene is at the end of #539.  He holds out the envelope and tells Sakura it's a love letter, and her response is, "Thank you, but there's someone else I--"  
 
When she says it there's no indication that she's sad or disappointed in herself or depressed.  She's normal.  Then the scene breaks and the chapter ends with the suspicion about Neji.  A week later, the next chapter opens with the Lover Letter-nin saying, "If it somebody that you like, they're bound to be a great person."  
 
Because the scene is broken by action and separated by a week, it's possible that the first guy she referred to -- "there's someone else I--" -- is Naruto.  After all, she had just declared she loved Naruto in front of witnesses, and when she asked him if he didn't want her to just say so he didn't deny it.  So for all intents and purposes she had committed herself to Naruto.  Looking at it that way, it makes sense that she was fine during the first part of the scene.
 
But when the Love Letter-nin said if he was someone she liked he must be great, she thought of Sasuke -- as if not everyone she has liked has been a good person, and that she hurt a good person (Naruto) because of it.  The Lover-nin was speaking in present tense because it's all he knows about, but it doesn't necessarily mean that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke were present tense.
 
That's why some people believe that the panel of her looking depressed and thinking of Sasuke is a red herring.  Because it was actually disconnected from the part of the conversation where she said she already had someone -- Naruto.
 
Of course, all of this is wildly contested and I think that's exactly why Kishimoto wrote it that way.  He writes scenes in ways that are open to interpretation and confusion, so no one can be 100% certain until the end.  Everyone has to make up their own mind what they think it means.

 

I wanna believe that but the problem is that if the one she was thinking about and referring to Naruto then the "great guy" comment wouldn't make her depressingly think of Sasuke. She didn't seem sad about saying that she loved someone else because she likely still had confidence that Team 7 will be back together again (the confidence Naruto gave her at the end of the Kage Summit arc) but knowing how much Sasuke has fallen lowered her morale to a noticeable degree

 

The Kishi interview still perplexes me. If he really loves these pairing wars that go on to keep his wallet full of cash (like alot of people here say he does) why would he nonchalantly confirm NS by saying Sakura's confession for Naruto was the real deal especially when he went out of his way with everything else to make it look fake.

 

I believe that Sakura is in love with Naruto and is slowly starting to realize it, but just can't get rid of her love for Sasuke no matter how hard she tries (the failing to put him down, chapter 540 and blushing moment in 632 and the fact that she noticed Sasuke before Naruto saving her sort of confirm that for me) hence why I think there will probably be an epiphany scene later on. Because I don't really buy that she resolves the whole issue (her virtually unkillable love for Sasuke and moving on to Naruto) off-panel. 

 

 

Naruto can't bring himself to put Sasuke down either.  I guess that means he's in love with Sasuke too, right?    :twitch:

 

I don't recall that ever being an issue that's brought up. In fact if that were the case then Naruto's prediction of them killing each other wouldn't make sense, unless he was implying they commit a double suicide together but that scenario seems rather.....unlikely

 

 

Obito can just turn his head and ignore them.

 

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It would make for a comical moment atleast (like in DBZ when Vegeta was having that heart to heart with Trunks and Goten was just sort of there)

 

It would atleast make sense for obito to be there than anyone else who else would draw the Rin parallel? (well actually alot of people but whatever)


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Posted 14 March 2014 - 04:29 PM

All I'm going to say is, if 631 and 663 didnt give a strong hint of NS I don't know what will. Its not even central around the land of iron anymore, I mean basically rather than disect the meaning of Sakura's truth or not, just follow this:

 

Whatever happened in the land of iron we can conclude:

 

Naruto still loves Sakura after that event as hinted by 631

Sakura gained development in support of naruto, rather than just resigning to have faith in him evidenced by:

573 vowing to help him no matter what

630 speaking to the allaince in which he considered everyone comrades and not to rely solely on him, everyone had to support him in anyway they could

662-663, well the fear of him dying and notion to preserve his dream and vowing to save him kinda speak for themselves.

 

So really we could presumibly say Naruto just forgave Sakura or didn't even have it matter to him, I mean at this point if he is able to forgive Nagato, Itachi, Minato (for putting Kurama in him), and even make friends with Kurama, and still this whole time he has never abandoned sasuke and even forgive Obito, the guy who caused all the chaos to make him an orphan and jinchurki, how could anyone rationally think he would just be over Sakura in an instant? I mean yeah love is a tough emotion and many things aside its been crazy in this series with stuff like sakura still loving sasuke after all that he did but to think after the confession that even when sai tells naruto what sakura intended to protect him and risk herself despite sai even saying it was partially his own fault, just how could people expect naruto to move on from sakura from an event designed in part to protect him but still forgive Obito after all he did? I mean did the fandom enter crazy town where apparently its easier to forgive those like Itachi who had an instigating factor upon sasuke leaving, nagato for demolishing the whole leaf village and nearly killing many of his friends plus jiraya, forgive obito as the main aggrigator upon killing narutos parents, making him a jinchurki, causing him to be an outcast, and responsible for the death of many in the 4th war including neji? That Naruto can even forgive Sasuke for all he has done, yet he cannot forgive Sakura for doing the opposite of all this? Sakura never intended to hurt him, she wanted to make amends so he cannot forgive this?

 

This is the type of craziness people see when they make an issue over 469 now, its like how can we expect Naruto to have the foritute for forgive those who did so much worse but yet not forgive sakura for an event to protect him? It just doesn't add up.

 

Even then its simple in how Kishi said about sakura: Part of her design was an honest but stubborn girl who always means right but at times just causes unintended events on others, she doesn't want others to be effected but still cares for them and tries to make it right. Aka, learning about the nine tails in naruto, she didn't know the full extent of why he was targeted but still wanted to protect him, it only intensified after other events like learning from chiyo about jinchurki extraction and the 4 tails event to see how much of a curse (at the time) naruto had been carrying, hell this is why she wanted to learn wood style, if it was possible she wanted to be able to protect naruto from the power. And from that interview after the land of iron event, yeah he said he decpited her as honest and there is credibility to the stuff she said being true, but she may not have been fully invested in it yet.

 

Really the best thing to say regarding her words at the confession were, she was torn  at the time between naruto and sasuke's actions, she had her old feelings for sasuke (this is before she saw herself how far he had gone) and recently got the news from Sai about how naruto felt about her. Really we could say Sakura was in a limbo situation for her feelings with yes:

On Sasuke, all the BS he pulled and about how he joined the akaskuti and attacked the cloud village and that this was the guy she "loved"

On Naruto, how he as her friend was willing to go after sasuke on not only his reasons but also hers as a means of fulfilling her happniess even if it came at the expense of his own and that it felt like a death sentince and that her friend in turn actually loved her.

 

So yeah Sakura was in a torn state, if anything, I saw the land of iron development as putting sakura in an intense impossible situation, as how could she possibly cope on the ends of herself and in regards to naruto after hearing and seeing about sasuke and learning about how she impacted naruto? Obviously the end result was she wanted to make amends, and in some cases she has by progress of the war arc. Really at this state, regarding previous development even before the land of iron, when it comes to Sakura to naruto, I still say Sakura is at a point where she subconsciously loves Naruto, just isn't aware of it yet, but that awareness is brought out gradually by events like yes, recently naruto seemingly dying but now being revived.



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Posted 14 March 2014 - 04:59 PM

 

 

I don't recall that ever being an issue that's brought up. In fact if that were the case then Naruto's prediction of them killing each other wouldn't make sense, unless he was implying they commit a double suicide together but that scenario seems rather.....unlikely

 

 

 

I don't think that's what Naruto meant at all, either that they would both commit suicide (I really don't understand how people come to that conclusion) or that Naruto would actually try to kill Sasuke. Naruto couldn't bring himself to kill Nagato or Obito, so I don't know what would make you think he would kill Sasuke, the person he views as a brother.

What he meant, in my opinion, was that they were so evenly match at the time that the only outcome of a fight between them would be that they would end up killing each other. But that is probably just my unpopular opinion since no one else seems to think that.



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Posted 14 March 2014 - 05:23 PM

I just think that they will be so much equal that they will end up killing each other or rather one gets killed and the other just dies. Either way, that is something Sakura doesn't understand.

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 07:58 PM

Well, Naruto said that if he and Sasuke fight then he would kill Sasuke(not the exact words) and he would shoulder all the burden of hatred of Sasuke and he too would die with him. This is how both of them die.

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 08:09 PM

 
I don't think that's what Naruto meant at all, either that they would both commit suicide (I really don't understand how people come to that conclusion) or that Naruto would actually try to kill Sasuke. Naruto couldn't bring himself to kill Nagato or Obito, so I don't know what would make you think he would kill Sasuke, the person he views as a brother.
What he meant, in my opinion, was that they were so evenly match at the time that the only outcome of a fight between them would be that they would end up killing each other. But that is probably just my unpopular opinion since no one else seems to think that.

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 09:50 PM

I think the reason she wasn't thinking of naruto, was because when the fodder ninja said that if she loved him, he must be a great guy or something, I don't even know the exact quote, but she thought of Sasuke because she knew he was in the wrong path that obviously wasn't 'a good guy'. 

 

Though, if I'm wrong you guys just ignore this. lol. 

About the lover-nin, i dont think that it explains why she could not think about Naruto, if she loved Naruto she would think about him because he's a great guy and that scene would end with her smiling.
But no she didnt thought about Naruto because she loved Sasuke and he's not a great guy which ended with her being sad.

So i think that no matter what people say there's no strong argument to at least keep up to force doubts on that scene.


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