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#15621 BakeNeko-Chan

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 05:49 PM

Good point but still. It's tiresome and not even needed today. How many endings we have of "you decide"? Just give us the conclusion.

 

In Kishi's case I don't believe he's one to leave loose ends untied. He seems to be the kind of writer who likes to knot together the all the subplots he can, even things people would think he'd have forgotten about after so much time. And when he has placed so much emphasis on NaruSaku and on who Naruto ends up with by having Kushina specifically tell him to "find a girl like her", I can't imagine Kishi leaving the romance subplot inconclusive.  


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 06:15 PM

Good point but still. It's tiresome and not even needed today. How many endings we have of "you decide"? Just give us the conclusion.

I like when an ending is partially open, but not entirely. The movie 'The Golden Compass' was like that. It ended with the flight to the final battle, last line was "We will defeat the enemy and save the world". Then it cut off..

 

I like open endings that tells you what's important. Some things we are curious about, may not be a part of the puzzle. I recently watched a movie about a man who after getting out of prison for killing a little boy, gets close with a female priest. In the movie they talked about sins and forgiveness, and she told him the most important thing is not forgiveness, but reconciliation. She did find out what he'd done, but it was unclear whether she forgave him or not. That was what everyone payed attention to, though the ending what to focus on. He accepted the past and moved on, and in the end we figured that was what the whole movie built up to. (Naruto manga builds up to a narusaku ending by the way)


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 06:35 PM

I just dont know how he is going to untangle this messed up love orgy going on. Everyone loves everyone kinda thing,,,,


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 06:38 PM

I understand. Well, The Golden Compass is supposed to be a series, but I think they dropped it. I understand open ended can be good and I respect that, but this one is not warranted. Some series/movies work, others don't, especially if the fanbase is too huge. This one is among them. It's a no-no here.

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 06:57 PM

March 3rd ~ March 9th

 

02. Naruto #68 (741,593 / 742,232)

 

these are pretty high! It's been a while since Naruto hadn't seel so much in the first days.


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 06:57 PM

Yeah I really don't like open ending all that much unless they are done right, which some films get and others sadly don't.



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:05 PM

March 3rd ~ March 9th
 
02. Naruto #68 (741,593 / 742,232)
 
these are pretty high! It's been a while since Naruto hadn't seel so much in the first days.

Yes, it would seem so. Then again, I have heard Japan really like Obito's redemption being played out. I am only assuming from the ranking poll, so don't think I am the source. Haha, source.

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:23 PM

I don't think Kishi will leave the pairing part open ended. Seeing that the pairings have too much of a fan support it will just not look good to leave things open ended.

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:34 PM

If open ended, I'll say we all should hijack or occupy SJ building. Just kidding...maybe...

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:41 PM

I am with you @NaruSaku4Life3g B) XD

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:43 PM

"We will not let you enter the building until you give us the real ending!!!!!"

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:44 PM

I don't think Kishi will leave the pairing part open ended. Seeing that the pairings have too much of a fan support it will just not look good to leave things open ended.

Oh if that happened I would have to head to Japan lol and say we need an ending but I won't go crazy like some others fans we all know and love.

 

If open ended, I'll say we all should hijack or occupy SJ building. Just kidding...maybe...

I say Hijack the building lol



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:55 PM

I used to think this was going to be an open ending on the pairings...Now I do not.

 

Mostly because of what has happened recently, and the fact that Kishi has shown us, that he will not shy away from that deep level of romanticism. I thought NaruSaku CPR was impossible, that any romantic interaction that might happen between them, would be off screen...or in this case, off panel.

 

But now, he has shown us, he is not really that type of guy, and if he wanted to write a romance subplot, that is best to be a good one...not some funky love triangle.


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 08:13 PM

I used to think this was going to be an open ending on the pairings...Now I do not.
 
Mostly because of what has happened recently, and the fact that Kishi has shown us, that he will not shy away from that deep level of romanticism. I thought NaruSaku CPR was impossible, that any romantic interaction that might happen between them, would be off screen...or in this case, off panel.
 
But now, he has shown us, he is not really that type of guy, and if he wanted to write a romance subplot, that is best to be a good one...not some funky love triangle.

That's what I was saying about CPR. Seeing that is worth noting because that kind of physical contact is rare, even if the purpose is explained. The point is Sakura could just have done a different or rather Kishi could just continuing do medical jutsu being saving grace.

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 08:31 PM

I don't think it matters how strong NS's bond is. It's more about the narrative techniques, such as parallels and third-parties. They build up to a conclusion. An open ending would throw all that away, there is too much hype now.

 

Not to mention, it's Kishi's style. He gives sidecharacters such as Neji and Gai sensei conclusions. He just dedicated an entire chapter to Gai to make him complete, I'm sure it'll happen with the love triangle. It is such an important and fundamental issue in the Team 7 dynamic.


Edited by sushi., 14 March 2014 - 12:06 AM.

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 08:39 PM

March 3rd ~ March 9th

 

02. Naruto #68 (741,593 / 742,232)

 

these are pretty high! It's been a while since Naruto hadn't seel so much in the first days.

diff of 40k on average hope it passes 1 million since it used to sell much more than that.

The more noticiable fall was One piece, it used to sell way more than 2m.


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 09:02 PM

honestly if Kishimoto decides to make it a open ending, Kishimoto would be a horrible writer or dare I say a very uncredible, troll. You don't just write out all those hints like 631 , and Yamato's unfinished sentence. Foreshadows and parallels like MinaKushi and Minato and Kushina flashbacks just to make it open ending. I trust in Kishimoto's ability to write. If this is just a joke he wants to do then it won't be a funny one. But I know based on the fact of all the hints and how the story progressed that Naruto and Sakura-Chan will be together.

Nope, in my opinion he's not a good writer and this has nothing to do with pairings.

My open ending possibility is due to he parallels fest, there are ones who support NS and others dont, like Obi/Rin, and Jira/Tsu because they ended in tragedy and on both possibilites they would be better if they moved on, like on Obi/Rin if Obito had other friends he would have got over Rin's death.

As for Kushina, she was paralleled on both Naruto and Sakura, and despite the "find a girl like me" well, Naruto already did find that girl and it was Sakura but she never told him that he should marry her or whatever that's just an advice on woman to no go for weird ones.

My guess on open ending is that i find Kishi on this arc accepting the pressure of fandoms, i dont see how Hinata got more panel time with next to nothing of development when he could have developed other characters, Lee as an example didnt got a single fight.

 

Other thing that i laughed a lot was when he thought that pakkun or akamaru would be good mascot for the manga, he barely draw them on the series.


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 10:00 PM

Ähhhhm this is a 76 chapter manga how is it in any way comparable to naruto a over 700 chapter manga?

And? Length is irrelevant 

 

I'm on your side though. I don't want it to finish open-ended because that would suck.

 

Atleast Kishi said the story would end conclusively I doubt it would feel conclusive if NS didn't become canon.


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 10:05 PM

Ähhhhm this is a 76 chapter manga how is it in any way comparable to naruto a over 700 chapter manga?

It is not comparable either way

do they have the same brain


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 10:49 PM

It is not comparable eitherway

do they have the same brain

Its pretty similar, the villains and monsters parallal Kishi's work by....alot (Zenom=Akatsuki, The Demon Recipes=Bijuu etc.)

 

The only difference is that in terms of humor 666 Satan is alot funnier and its also.....way more gory and grotesque in alot of parts

 

In fact that would have to be my one complaint about 666 Satan it jumps from adoloscent type humor to some pretty gory kitten in like a heartbeat.


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