Jump to content

Close
Photo

The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread


  • Please log in to reply
54216 replies to this topic

#15581 TouKen4Life3g

TouKen4Life3g

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 35,306 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 13 March 2014 - 05:39 AM

Indeed. A hug is usually a love sign or something a person would feel "warm". I mean that is something that does make the world go around. I mean I have seen a lot that when a hug happens, one character will be lost, confused, and blushing. For Naruto, it's confused. That blank stare pretty much says it, though the atmosphere is what nailed it. So yeah, when in doubt of no kiss, do a hug instead of a miss. Yeah I tried. :P

#15582 narusaku256

narusaku256

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,975 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:India
  • Interests:Everything :D

Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:02 AM

Dosen't it depend on two persons who are hugging? I mean a hug between a two friends is a 'hug' a normal hug. A hug between best friends is a comforting and sort of consolidating one. AND a hug between two people who love each other is a nice, warm, tight, ecstatic, wonderful, refereshing etc.(running short of words to describe it ^_^) which really sort of stops time and as NaruSaku4Life3g said makes the world go around ^_^. Yeah I've tried it too XD


                                                       tumblr_nokgzxLJ4A1ts94lmo1_500.gif


#15583 redragon88

redragon88

    Legendary Ninja

  • Legendary Ninja
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,562 posts

Posted 13 March 2014 - 08:09 AM

@KnS

 

So from your perspective either Sai doesn't know anything he's talking about (despite being know as an exposition character for feelings), or Sakura focuses more on Sasuke despite the events that happened in Konoha clearly showing how Naruto was her priority?

 

I accept your opinion can't be the same, but you have to see how all of that looks from my perspective. Both of those options have huge contradictions from the flow of the story.

 

I really don't get how Sai's explanation suddenly makes it all about Sasuke. In the same conversation Sai had mentioned that Sakura was only thinking of Naruto's feelings. That implies that all of Sakura's acts took Naruto as the main consideration. Not to mention that if Sasuke really was Sakura's drive that she really wouldn't have bothered pleading with Naruto to stop by confessing to him.

 

In order for Sakura to start the kill plan Sai needed to break her spirit by telling her of Naruto's pain. We can't just pretend this didn't happen, just like we can't pretend that Sai's explanation didn't either.

 

Instead of just concluding that Sai saying Sakura is focusing more on Sasuke and that he's nullifying the previous scenes, let's try to think how Sai's explanation can fit with all that's happened before. Instead of looking at the scenes individually and taking our pick of which we like and don't like, let's look at the scenes as a whole and see how they can all fit together because that's probably what Kishi would want the audience to do.

 

There's no implication that Sai could be wrong in his explanation about Sakura, but that doesn't mean that Sakura is just doing all of this because of Sasuke since the previous scenes show that Naruto was her main concern.

 

Sai explains the nature of Sakura's commitment to her love for Sasuke, which takes the form of killing someone in order to save them from evil. But the only reason that Sakura can undertake such a path is because the alternative, letting Naruto endanger himself is way way way more painful to her.

 

You know, maybe we could asks our japanese users if they have any insight about how the japanese forums saw Sai's explanation back then. Maybe the original raw give a slightly different meaning to what Sai said. Or at the very least they could give different insights about it.

 

@ Megi, 六道仙人, ramenanmitsu and 咲耶姫 :

 

Do you have any insights you could give us about Sai's explanation to Naruto regarding Sakura's intent to kill Sasuke and about what's the general opinion on japanese forums regarding it?

 

Is Sai implying that Sakura's main drive is her love for Sasuke, or is it still implied that she's doing it mainly for Naruto's sake? Do you and japan forums consider Sai to be accurate in his explanation, or that maybe he could be wrong?



#15584 PhenixElite

PhenixElite

    Jounin

  • Jounin
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,725 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Austria

Posted 13 March 2014 - 09:47 AM

 
The only thing that I'm worried about happening is an open-ending happening because even though NS most likely will happen Kishi is making it pretty difficult for himself to make it canon


If your afraid of an open ending why dont you tell me a possible way for kishi to make that happen without asspulling and leavin plotholes?

ada_wong_signature_by_valxy-d5m0oa1.png


#15585 melovechoco

melovechoco

    ~[♥□♥]~

  • Chakra Water Walker
  • PipPip
  • 384 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:on earth
  • Interests:other stuff...

Posted 13 March 2014 - 10:55 AM

Okay...since its possible even for gai to have his own flashback, as much as this flashback thingy really annoys me a bit, but,im expecting for sakura flashback too like maybe about how her training with tsunade would affect her, or reveal something she does behind everybody back maybe master her own jutsu (genjutsu involved) or to make it even better, maybe an insight where tsunade and shizune brought her to the legendary place to train for the diamond seal and summoning katsuyu..
since shizune also in training herself to gain the seal too but failed because she doesn't have the ability for precise chakra control...

Im bored actually...just want to talk something else...while expecting for more ns delight for the next chapter...

Edited by melovechoco, 13 March 2014 - 10:57 AM.

2ivn2tv.jpg

#15586 HauntedCake

HauntedCake

    Jounin

  • Jounin
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,729 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Bradford, England
  • Interests:Naruto,Shingeki no kyojin, Fairy Tail, LOL, Runescape & Xbox 360.

Posted 13 March 2014 - 12:07 PM

I wont lie, i'm concerned about him leaving it an open ending in respects to pairings.


40283620121415711s.jpg


#15587 PhenixElite

PhenixElite

    Jounin

  • Jounin
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,725 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Austria

Posted 13 March 2014 - 12:35 PM

I wont lie, i'm concerned about him leaving it an open ending in respects to pairings.


If thats so why did kishi even add moments like 631 or parallels at all? Or why did he made naruto say that he will confess as soon as he kept his promise? If you make a story open ended you dont ad stuff lile this.

ada_wong_signature_by_valxy-d5m0oa1.png


#15588 Otaru

Otaru

    絶対 負けない

  • Elite Jounin
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 2,489 posts
  • Gender:Female

Posted 13 March 2014 - 01:04 PM

I'm torn between what will happen

 

one one hand logically thinking there's no way NS can't be canon because of evidence like chapters 298, 631,the databooks and Kushina's last words (forgot which chapter that was)

 

On the other hand realistically speaking I don't see a way NS can work out entirely, because of everything that happened in the Kage Summit arc that made everything confusing. Basically Naruto won't accept Sakura's feelings (which may or may not be fake) because she still likes Sasuke. Well all she has to do is get over her love for Sasuke, well that's all well and good except the whole finale of the Kage Summit arc showed that she can't stop loving him no matter how hard she tries and on top of that she can't exactly return Naruto's love without the possibility of it sounding like bullsh** like the fake confession and even then she has to actually prove she's over Sasuke because Naruto seems to be adamant as kitten about it and is not going to budge

 

I think Naruto has somewhat begun to accept her feelings.

Why would he say to his father that they are "more or less" a couple ?

 

From Sakura's confession, he knows what she feels for him.

 

I think this confession made him realise that she's not THAT MUCH into Sasuke.

 

 

Then the result if 663 was fans outraged at sakura giving CPR and calling her necophilaic because it's sakura doing it, if it was hinata giving for they would be all over it and scream canon again and again. Hell Kishi could have made her come to support naruto and do the mouth to mouth stuff while sakura did the heart stuff but no it's all sakura, seriously things are looking bad for nh, SS, and antins fans.

 

LOL but but !

 

Hinata wouldn't have been able to do that ! She would have fainted, or hesitated ! Sakura didn't hesitated at all because she's strong in mind. Just like Kushina ^^

That's what Kushina meant when she said " a girl like me ". She meant " strong in mind ". I'm nearly sure of it.

 

 

Okay...since its possible even for gai to have his own flashback, as much as this flashback thingy really annoys me a bit, but,im expecting for sakura flashback too like maybe about how her training with tsunade would affect her, or reveal something she does behind everybody back maybe master her own jutsu (genjutsu involved) or to make it even better, maybe an insight where tsunade and shizune brought her to the legendary place to train for the diamond seal and summoning katsuyu..
since shizune also in training herself to gain the seal too but failed because she doesn't have the ability for precise chakra control...

Im bored actually...just want to talk something else...while expecting for more ns delight for the next chapter...

 

I have to say that I would love this kind of flashback !

 

If thats so why did kishi even add moments like 631 or parallels at all? Or why did he made naruto say that he will confess as soon as he kept his promise? If you make a story open ended you dont ad stuff lile this.

 

And there is the Kushina comment !


Edited by Otaru, 13 March 2014 - 01:29 PM.

sakurachansmallerbetter.jpg


#15589 HokagexNaruto

HokagexNaruto

    Academy Student

  • Academy Student
  • Pip
  • 16 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling

Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:06 PM

 

I think Naruto has somewhat begun to accept her feelings.

Why would he say to his father that they are "more or less" a couple ?

 

From Sakura's confession, he knows what she feels for him.

 

I think this confession made him realise that she's not THAT MUCH into Sasuke.

 

 

 

LOL but but !

 

Hinata wouldn't have been able to do that ! She would have fainted, or hesitated ! Sakura didn't hesitated at all because she's strong in mind. Just like Kushina ^^

That's what Kushina meant when she said " a girl like me ". She meant " strong in mind ". I'm nearly sure of it.

 

 

 

I have to say that I would love this kind of flashback !

 

 

And there is the Kushina comment !

I agree with that so much. I mean, I've heard a lot of people saying it should've been Hinata who should've done the ''mouth to mouth'', but she really would just faint or be shy.  Sakura... well wouldn't because like Otaru said, she's strong mentally. You make a really great point on this!


Edited by HokagexNaruto, 13 March 2014 - 02:11 PM.


#15590 Gojira

Gojira

    Kyuubi

  • Banned
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,217 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:13 PM

To be fair what exactly could Hinata do that would be at all useful? Not to mention she was much farther away, Gaara would have to have gone out of his way to go pick her up.

Also I love how in amines that a person can be brought back to life despite the brain not getting any oxygen during that time. Let's be honest realistically speaking Naruto and Sasuke would probably no think good after regaining consciousness

eh10ut.jpg


#15591 TouKen4Life3g

TouKen4Life3g

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 35,306 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:16 PM

To be fair what exactly could Hinata do that would be at all useful? Not to mention she was much farther away, Gaara would have to have gone out of his way to go pick her up.

Also I love how in amines that a person can be brought back to life despite the brain not getting any oxygen during that time. Let's be honest realistically speaking Naruto and Sasuke would probably no think good after regaining consciousness

Well, I would say their recovery wouldn't be as fast as real life, but hey, this is fiction not based on reality, so anything goes for the most part.

Hinata being further away from Naruto? Naruto isn't there anymore. :P

#15592 sushi.

sushi.

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,073 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:norway
  • Interests:I'm still alive! more active on twitter :)

Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:22 PM

Why are people talking about an open ending like a big deal? I thought it was a joke..because then these pairing wars would never end. :v But seriously though, which moment in the story indicates this? What made you consider it?

If you can find no reason to fear, why even bother... Irrational fear won't get you anywhere.

I agree with that so much. I mean, I've heard a lot of people saying it should've been Hinata who should've done the ''mouth to mouth'', but she really would just faint or be shy.  Sakura... well wouldn't because like Otaru said, she's strong mentally. You make a really great point on this!

Of course she wouldn't. She managaed to hold his hand, well locking lips is a level-up..but she could've done it. Hinata isn't that weak, she's had some development.


ナルサク


#15593 HokagexNaruto

HokagexNaruto

    Academy Student

  • Academy Student
  • Pip
  • 16 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling

Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:28 PM

Why are people talking about an open ending like a big deal? I thought it was a joke..because then these pairing wars would never end. :v But seriously though, which moment in the story indicates this? What made you consider it?

If you can find no reason to fear, why even bother... Irrational fear won't get you anywhere.

Of course she wouldn't. She managaed to hold his hand, well locking lips is a level-up..but she could've done it. Hinata isn't that weak, she's had some development.

I honestly feel the same way about an open ending myself.

No, I agree with you. Hinata has had some development. I was just referring to the comment about how some people are saying it should've been HInata, instead of Sakura.  



#15594 Superman333

Superman333

    Banned

  • Banned
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,061 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:trying to earn Brittney's love .
  • Interests:getting the girl of my dreams to be mine(she is the Sakura-Chan of my life) ,Sonic the Hedgehog, making it to the NBA and being a better Point Guard than Rajon Rondo and then when I retire be a mangaka .

Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:32 PM

honestly if Kishimoto decides to make it a open ending, Kishimoto would be a horrible writer or dare I say a very uncredible, troll. You don't just write out all those hints like 631 , and Yamato's unfinished sentence. Foreshadows and parallels like MinaKushi and Minato and Kushina flashbacks just to make it open ending. I trust in Kishimoto's ability to write. If this is just a joke he wants to do then it won't be a funny one. But I know based on the fact of all the hints and how the story progressed that Naruto and Sakura-Chan will be together.

Edited by Superman333, 13 March 2014 - 02:33 PM.

Posted Image
 
 
 

#15595 Otaru

Otaru

    絶対 負けない

  • Elite Jounin
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 2,489 posts
  • Gender:Female

Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:33 PM

Yes Hinata progressed.

But she wouldn't be able to Mouth to mouth Naruto without hesitating.

 

She is obviously NOT suited to be a future hokage's wife.


Edited by Otaru, 13 March 2014 - 02:34 PM.

sakurachansmallerbetter.jpg


#15596 TouKen4Life3g

TouKen4Life3g

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 35,306 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:38 PM

Open ending is a chicken way out. Ok, not all of them, but in here, it's the case. Don't build and never finish.

#15597 Otaru

Otaru

    絶対 負けない

  • Elite Jounin
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 2,489 posts
  • Gender:Female

Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:40 PM

An open ending will never happen, nor for the pairings, and nor for Naruto's dream either.


Edited by Otaru, 13 March 2014 - 02:40 PM.

sakurachansmallerbetter.jpg


#15598 Nostradamus

Nostradamus

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,034 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling

Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:44 PM

Yes Hinata progressed.

But she wouldn't be able to Mouth to mouth Naruto without hesitating.

 

She is obviously NOT suited to be a future hokage's wife.

This is why I liked the way Sakura was portrayed in these last chapters. I can guarantee you without a shadows of a doubt that if Hinata was a medic and she was the one standing by Naruto's side, she wouldn't be able to do her job as a medic and Naruto would be dead.


                         CZSn9hA.jpg
 
Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


#15599 narusaku256

narusaku256

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,975 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:India
  • Interests:Everything :D

Posted 13 March 2014 - 03:09 PM

Cannot agree more with the above posts. Well, another plus point Sakura gets is that she is most adept in handling Naruto and his unpredictable and hyperactive nature. She knows when to bash him and when to be gentle with him. Heck! She knows Naruto inside out and more than Hinata ever did. The only obstacle I see are Sakura's feelings for Sasuke. Once those are gone, BANG! NS FTW!!!

                                                       tumblr_nokgzxLJ4A1ts94lmo1_500.gif


#15600 sushi.

sushi.

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,073 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:norway
  • Interests:I'm still alive! more active on twitter :)

Posted 13 March 2014 - 03:23 PM

Cannot agree more with the above posts. Well, another plus point Sakura gets is that she is most adept in handling Naruto and his unpredictable and hyperactive nature. She knows when to bash him and when to be gentle with him. Heck! She knows Naruto inside out and more than Hinata ever did. The only obstacle I see are Sakura's feelings for Sasuke. Once those are gone, BANG! NS FTW!!!

Yes he's better off with Sakura, but now we're just talking about a medic's job. :V Nothing shippy to me.


Edited by sushi., 13 March 2014 - 03:24 PM.

ナルサク





6 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 6 guests, 0 anonymous users