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[Elicit]

You are still getting on with those negative posts? That's just disgusting. I am disgusted by my own "safe place". Jesus Christ just get over yourself people! You are making an issue look like the end of the world. It happened, we've had worse to deal with.

I know, we've really had much worse. I still believe NaruSaku makes much more sense than NaruHina and especially SasuSaku, and SS canonization was never really a true threat because it was always very illogical compared to NaruHina. 

 

There were plenty of people here that believed Sakura still loves Sasuke and were confident that NS will happen. I would just like to note that Sakura isn't really conveying a desire to be in a romantic relationship with him, and Kakashi made that clear. She's just expressing her feelings for him again because he wants him to come back to Team 7 and that was the point.  She even thinks of her own love for him as disgraceful.

Edited by Elicit, 26 September 2014 - 08:15 AM.

[Syn11]

So... according to Kakashi (and Kishimoto) love doesn't need reasons, only hate does. It's a loud statement to make (because hate can be pretty groundless too). Well, it may mean that everything Sakura said to Naruto in LOI (naming the reasons why she liked him so much) is b*llsh*t. Splendid. Sakura simply loves Sasuke and will love him forever. Japanese culture allows such kind of hopeless romanticism, by the way. It is considered beautiful and noble... beautiful and noble, my *ss. I prefer fanfiction to this manga. If Kishimoto isn't going to introduce some solid evidence for NS soon (Naruto's recent attitude... doesn't help the situation too), I won't be so sure about our pairing being the end game. We should brace ourselves for the worst. ( I'm sorry, but that's what I feel right now.

Edited by Syn11, 26 September 2014 - 08:16 AM.

[Sakura~]

So ... Did I miss anything?

[narusaku256]

So ... Did I miss anything?

The fact that this thread stirred up 80 pages in a single day after its release....speaks volumes...according to me!

[al0eaz]

80 pages went by pretty quick... Any highlights of the meaningful posts? 

[Sakura~]

In SS fans mind Sasuke will redeem himself for Sakura's sake and I'm starting to believe in their theory

Edited by Sakura~, 26 September 2014 - 08:30 AM.

[archangel]

80 pages in less than 24 hours, kishi did kittened up big time. Well look like it. That genjutsu, that is my last peice of hope to prevent Narusaku to be ass-pull or Naruto look like a 2nd choice (bench resolution scene could change everything) Sakura could just se her past in the genjutsu too. With Sasuke say he never care for her, that bench scene should begin to ring a bell (though she was unconscious while that happen) Discussion with her inner too. 

 

If not well, Narusaku happen yeaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh, but as an ass-pull booooooooooooooo

[ButterBean]

I know love is complicated. But this love is tooooooo complicated words can never even describe this. It's so confusing. argh.

[narusaku256]

I know love is complicated. But this love is tooooooo complicated words can never even describe this. It's so confusing. argh.

Its not complicated but rather...it doesn't make sense here :/

[ButterBean]

Its not complicated but rather...it doesn't make sense here :/

Definitely.

 

Man, I can't believe this thread reached 80 pages with less than 24 hours. The cpr scene was only 53 pages.

[Askia31]

If Sakura's rant is in present tense. how can we still support this pairing still? especially Sakura... Its not as worst as Sasusaku but confessing to Sasuke in front of the guy whom loves her deeply is so kittening low. You cant be redeemed from that in my eyes. If its really present tense i really hope Naruto has moved on from Sakura. Cuz that was a kittening blow. She knows he's in love with her too, that makes it much more worse.

Edited by Askia31, 26 September 2014 - 08:48 AM.

[Atheck]

The fact that this thread stirred up 80 pages in a single day after its release....speaks volumes...according to me!

 

There's been worse. I'm pretty certain #631 and #632 both reached over 100 pages in the span of just a day or so. The former is unsurprising. People were still coming off the morale plummet that was #615. A lack of Sakura's presence even in the following chapters when Naruto's existential crises wasn't the centre of attention didn't help matters neither. Sakura's inspirational speech to the surviving Alliance member and Minato's comments helped revitalise many of the people here. Regarding #632, all of the excitement and hype must have carried over from the previous chapter. Plus it was the first Sakura centred chapter in a long time, especially one where she receives a strength increase (that's only happened several times throughout the manga). 

Edited by Atheck, 26 September 2014 - 09:00 AM.

[Uzumaki9000]

*Sighs* Now I finally realized that this chapter is just as bad as 685.

[archangel]

If Sakura's rant is in present tense. how can we still support this pairing still? especially Sakura... Its not as worst as Sasusaku but confessing to Sasuke in front of the guy whom loves her deeply is so kittening low. You cant be redeemed from that in my eyes. If its really present tense i really hope Naruto has moved on from Sakura. Cuz that was a kittening blow. She knows he's in love with her too, that makes it much more worse.

The setting was a little rush part 1 ok. Sasuke being an ass, Sakura wants to stop him, Naruto tried to get him back for her. However this time, Sakura put the old day as team 7 in her confession and tell him she's a disgrace because she couldn't help him and she ain't proud of what he become. Remember how Naruto was hurt before he make the promise of a lifetime in part 1.

 

After that 2nd confession, Naruto has no reaction, not a change in his face whatsoever. Plus he didn't even react of what look like a stab to Sakura right in her heart. It's Kakashi that look pissed at Sasuke Naruto is as guilty and too forgivable as Sakura is on th Sasuke situation. That is why I don't see Naruto lower himself to end up with Sakura right now.

 

Main problem here, Sasuke who got another insane plan seem the guy with reason when it come to team love triangle. Kishi put Sasuke up and that lower Naruto and Sakura down.

Edited by archangel, 26 September 2014 - 09:04 AM.

[redragon88]

Holy crap, 80 pages!

 

I guess this chapter really rubbed people the wrong way. I only read a few of the pages but I think I get the gist of the situation.

 

Well, regardless of which translation is right I think the worst case scenario is that it all ends in status quo. Everything still being one-sided love.

 

When it comes to NH, that definitely isn't happening. Just the other day during an advertisement for "The Last" Naruto got teased by the narrator regarding Sakura's increased beauty, so Naruto's love for Sakura is still prevalent in the movie. And I don't think they would have that occur if Sakura was together with Sasuke.

 

Even more, I can't see any possible way to put SS together anyway. Sasuke doesn't see Sakura that way, and when he's redeemed at most he'll come to respect how she feels, because right now he's just making a mockery of her feelings.

 

I think a while back I would've been angry with the sort of development in this chapter, but I've learned to just go with the flow and let Kishi do his thing since I can't possibly impose my ideas onto him. I think the only situation in which I could really get angry is if I saw SS actually happen, which doesn't seem likely at all.

Edited by redragon88, 26 September 2014 - 09:15 AM.

[narusaku256]

For a change of topic....it seems that NS is going the way as it was depicted in the OVA. I for one don't mind that ending ofcourse being an NS fan.....but...that really would mean that Naruto would lose to Sasuke....

I really don't want that to happen now because Naruto and Sakura for one have been through hell because of Sasuke and besides that...Sasuke is such a first rate kitten I can't even stand his character. I just feel like crushing his throat and throwing him into the abyss of destruction. Naruto cannot LOSE to Sasuke in here. Not again. That's not even plausible to be entirely honest....since Naruto is way too powerful right now and he probably knows the Rinnegan much much more than Sasuke. Leave apart the fact that too much has been put on line. I really want Naruto to ravage Sasuke. I am sorry but I don't even feel an ounce of sympathy for someone as disgraceful as Sasuke.

Kishi intends the readers to sympathize with Sasuke but I have nothing but hate for him. He has ruined way too much, way too many plots, this whole series and most of all...wayyyy too many characters! He doesn't deserve any redemption and capability to love...but oh well...Kishi and his favouritism for Sasuke....Vegeta is a real legend when it comes to type of characters like this. Atleast he was not a slave to his own emotions and actually had a heart though pretty tough at first. He was not a pussy unlike Sasuke. Goku's and Vegeta's rivalry was actually well written and Vegeta actually cared for Goku from deep inside. I'd call them brothers but this....I dunno....

Even at this stage if Naruto loses to Sasuke....I'd be done right there! It will all be due to Kishi's favourtism and nothing else.....

Naruto....to hell with peace and all...just ravage Sasuke. Break his every bone and make him regret his every decision, every step he took, every mistake he made and most of all.....ravage him sooo baaaddddd that he regrets every word he said to Sakura. Just destroy him inside out! Break open his skull apart and then and only then will your words get to him. Make him realise what 'real' pain is....What it is to kill someone...what it is to destroy someone internally...what it is to break someone and most of all....what it is to be humiliated!!! The first stepping stone to peace will be the death of Sasuke....

I wish Naruto could be this bad at him....sorry for being so....cold in here...but after the stunt that Sasuke has pulled out...I really can't stand him...had enough of him...

Edited by narusaku256, 26 September 2014 - 09:33 AM.

[pizza_blade]

I am honestly very disappointed with Sakura.

 

Hopefully this is not counted as Sakura-bashing because it seems there's a sentiment in this thread that mentioning that disappointment equals bashing her.

 

To be more precise however, maybe I am just more disappointed towards Kishi.

 

Well, we still have some ways to go before the end so maybe he can salvage it somehow, but I seriously doubt it.

[六道仙人]

I am sorry but the more I read this chapter the more I felt how much is disgusting SS... Even Kakashi at the end told, "She is suffering from loving him". That's not positive, at all.

Sasuke just ridicules her love towards him. His hint, even though it was a genjutsu, was really cruel and painful (he hinted at the her chest)..

Honestly this chapter has set up ONCE AGAIN that whant SS fandom still believed, that Sakura CANNOT BE ABLE to save him from his darkness. She has never been able to do a such thing for him. It's not a her fail or whatever, it's just that Sakura cannot understand him and she won't never does. That's a fact.

 

I still find a reason about that angry face...It could be a determined face but it was angry too...

 

how can be all this positive for SS fandom? I dunno

Edited by 六道仙人, 26 September 2014 - 10:18 AM.

[Swagkura]

I am sorry but the more I read this chapter the more I felt how much is disgusting SS... Even Kakashi at the end told, "She is suffering from loving him". That's not positive, at all.
Sasuke just ridicules her love towards him. His hint, even though it was a genjutsu, was really cruel and painful (he hinted at the her chest)..
Honestly this chapter has set up ONCE AGAIN that whant SS fandom still believed, that Sakura CANNOT BE ABLE to save him from his darkness. She has never been able to do a such thing for him. It's not a her fail or whatever, it's just that Sakura cannot understand him and she won't never does. That's a fact.
 
I still find a reason about that angry face...It could be a determined face but it was angry too...

I saw it as both. Her being angry at him for doing the same crap again, when she thought they could've at least tried going back to the way it was. Her determination came from her trying to save the severed bond between Team 7, but sadly, Sasuke will never listen.

[Sakura~]

I am sorry but the more I read this chapter the more I felt how much is disgusting SS... Even Kakashi at the end told, "She is suffering from loving him". That's not positive, at all.
Sasuke just ridicules her love towards him. His hint, even though it was a genjutsu, was really cruel and painful (he hinted at the her chest)..
Honestly this chapter has set up ONCE AGAIN that whant SS fandom still believed, that Sakura CANNOT BE ABLE to save him from his darkness. She has never been able to do a such thing for him. It's not a her fail or whatever, it's just that Sakura cannot understand him and she won't never does. That's a fact.
 
I still find a reason about that angry face...It could be a determined face but it was angry too...
 

how can be all this positive for SS fandom? I dunno

Yeah but Kishi can make Sasuke redeem himself for Sakura. Anything is possible.