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[Awes9]

Well said. Glad to know I'm not the only one thinking this.
 
NS is going through one last hurdle with SS, though I'm pretty sure that we will be just fine. Honestly speaking, Kishi messed it up by having Kushina being parallel so early in the series (yeah I said it). That's not what killed NH to me, though it's more like an overkill. It's what Naruto reconfirm of his feelings for her. The parallel is what created a time bomb on SS and it's pretty much irreversible. Again, we may have to go through what we went through with NH, but now with SS. That said we almost home free. Just hang in there.

The Kushina parallel is really overkill lol, there's no way around it, Naruto's feelings pretty much kill SS and NH but the Kushina parallel confirms NaruSaku we just have to wait and see how it will happen.

[Gaara's hair]

Can the ship take it? Will people abandon ship? Will we crash like the Hinatic?

[TouKen4Life3g]

The Kushina parallel is really overkill lol, there's no way around it, Naruto's feelings pretty much kill SS and NH but the Kushina parallel confirms NaruSaku we just have to wait and see how it will happen.

Agreed. Naruto's feelings could have just shaken SS, but the parallel caused the time bomb to be activated. Again, SS has no real backup, just her. Like they say, you can't succeed if you have no backing you up. So pretty much, it's all on Sakura now. That said it's still predictable. If you ever play Bioshock Infinite, that will tell you the situation NS is in.

 

Can the ship take it? Will people abandon ship? Will we crash like the Hinatic?

Lol. Nice nickname. But seriously, I doubt it. We can take it, or at least I can. People may jump to conclusion quick, which won't surprise, but I hope they learned their lessons from 615, and boy, I really hope so.

[Gaara's hair]

I'm sure we won't hit sasberg, just saying.

[Awes9]

Agreed. Naruto's feelings could have just shaken SS, but the parallel caused the time bomb to be activated. Again, SS has no real backup, just her. Like they say, you can't succeed if you have no backing you up. So pretty much, it's all on Sakura now. That said it's still predictable. If you ever play Bioshock Infinite, that will tell you the situation NS is in.
 

Lol. Nice nickname. But seriously, I doubt it. We can take it, or at least I can. People may jump to conclusion quick, which won't surprise, but I hope they learned their lessons from 615, and boy, I really hope so.

The only games I play are games where I don't have to think like dmc or god of war, I know I am a weird girl but I just play to relax not to try to resolve impossible enigmas. Can you make a summary about bioshock if that doesn't bother you or give me a link to read about it ?

[Atheck]

I'm curious to see how many people from other forums would support SasuIno. As we are all aware Ino still maintains her feelings for him despite having little understanding of who or what he is. Despite the belief that she could potentially become involved with either of her teammates Ino has not expressed any indications that she would reciprocate their sentiments if they were to confess having to having an attraction for her. Of course, I fail to understand why Ino is so infatuated with Sasuke that she would grieve for his life and the notion that what feels is a "positive love". From little information we can infer as to her reasoning for being attracted to him she only desired him because of his aloof personality and physical features. There was nothing but hollow attractions to qualities that she believes are "cool". Is that how Kishi defines a "positive love"?

 

This directly relates to Sakura's feelings as well. If people believe that Sakura will forever remain "in love" with Sasuke due to recent misconceptions of particular panels then why would they not apply this same standard to Ino or Karin? If anything the former has expressed a greater dedication as she persists in clinging to her distorted image of what Sasuke is whilst Sakura has (or at least did) accept that Sasuke was not the same person that they used to know.

[Awes9]

I'm curious to see how many people from other forums would support SasuIno. As we are all aware Ino still maintains her feelings for him despite having little understanding of who or what he is. Despite the belief that she could potentially become involved with either of her teammates Ino has not expressed any indications that she would reciprocate their sentiments if they were to confess having to having an attraction for her. Of course, I fail to understand why Ino is so infatuated with Sasuke that she would grieve for his life and the notion that what feels is a "positive love". From little information we can infer as to her reasoning for being attracted to him she only desired him because of his aloof personality and physical features. There was nothing but hollow attractions to qualities that she believes are "cool". Is that how Kishi defines a "positive love"?
 
This directly relates to Sakura's feelings as well. If people believe that Sakura will forever remain "in love" with Sasuke due to recent misconceptions of particular panels then why would they not apply this same standard to Ino or Karin? If anything the former has expressed a greater dedication as she persists in clinging to her distorted image of what Sasuke is whilst Sakura has (or at least did) accept that Sasuke was not the same person that they used to know.

I don't support any Sasuke ships he doesn't deserve anyone and doesn't want anyone anyway.
As for the positive love I always took it as ironic especially with the way Sasuke appears in the panel a bit like Sakura in 540, but the panel is ambiguous so it can go either way, I still stick to my interpretation tough.

[Inferno180]

No ship is unsinkable, I mean we redlined 3 times, these past years since 469 were just plain overkill to us.

 

Now its almost like a dream come true with all this Sakura growth and the parallel. All I know is there will be more NS stuff in the future. NS has been very fortante due to the Sakura-Kushina parallel, SS has the chance like us of having moments too right now. NH suffered a massive blow from the parallel and they are suffering due to lockout right now, cause Hinata is not a member of team 7 well its just potential for NS and SS right now. But even then, the parallel is the biggest advantage for us.

 

Cause Kushina said find a girl like your mother, this was a foreshadowing element for Naruto to end up with a girl like Kushina, this was a foreshadowing element which would linger on and be used by both the NS and NH camp. Now we recently got Minato saying Sakura reminded him of Kushina, aka like Naruto's mother, this is not rocket science, this is not advanced physics, this is not even quantium theory, its simple reading, 1+1 = 2 otherwise known as Sakura's attitude + Minato's reminder of Kushina from Sakura = Sakura being like Kushina. This is stuff made simile enough for Middle schoolers to understand, its a shame people go so far to thing this is some complex meaning or means something else, its right there plain and simple. Minato brought forth that Kushina foreshadow and connected Sakura to it. This is building on it saying, perhaps Sakura being like Kushina means something in the future, its so freaking simple. Even without the parallel, the similarities are still just insane, the same ways we saw Naruto and Sakura interact, Minato and Kushina apparently did too. Its very simple, Sakura=Kushina as far as things go. No matter how much debate comes up from the girlfriend remark (I consider that humor) or the whole Sakura dirt/blush crap going on with others, these don't cause any impact on this foreshadowing element. The element lingers and is in effect until it comes forth, this one has just come forth and is now in the back again until another event related to Sakura or Kushina comes up cause it includes Sakura now.

 

Kushina said find a girl like your mother for the 100th time, not father, Minato thinking about Sakura and Kushina being related relays the girl like Kushina to the reader no matter how many times haters try to debate this stuff or use Hinata like Minato, its not going to cut it, they cannot just insert these crazy things in or expect the parallel to suddenly change, its not going to. There is just no logical point in it due to the, I don't know gigantic lumbering world ending demon that needs to be taken care of? Kishi wrote it for a reason, its that simple. He could have used Hinata or avoided it all together and let Minato linger around to meet Hinata, but he met Sakura and now is helping the other kages, theres no time to do this, not even a point for them to meet, I mean what would they disscuss? They need to try to save the freaking world.

 

To me, some haters may be clinging to 615, the deal with 615 though, like the hug we love so much from 450, it ended, it was a moment. Moments come and go, thats it. The girlfriend humor remark, that was yeah, a NS moment. But the parallel Minato thought of was building on that foreshadowing from Kushina from 2 years ago. That has lingered around all this time, its back, and will be used in the future, its not going to vanish, its up in the air till its ready to come down again. It presists within the story until another event involving Sakura or a memory or reminder of Kushina comes up. Moments come and go, but story elements like foreshadows presist. This is a simple fact, no matter how its argued. If anything this parallel did not just act as a build to Kushina's foreshadowing, it opened a gateway, that gateway opened the possibility of similar story elements between the relation of Minato and Kushina to reach Naruto and Sakura, most notably the forehead compliment. Now with Sakura's new forehead seal, maybe this should make it more attractive to a certain blond ninja who just happened to go through a lot of the same stuff with this girl like his own father did with his mother. A forehead event in the future is very possible, and its not insane to think this, this is stuff that happened as early as chapter 3, made a similarity in Kushina's flashback with Minato, now it can resurface after all these years, it has a purpose because of Kushina's talk with how she met and grew with Minato. Its simple. Its all there, no amount of twisting will change this. Unless otherwise stated in the manga, things can come forward like this and it does not matter how much haters try to deny it, demand it be changed, or twist it to something else, its there.

Edited by Inferno180, 31 May 2013 - 02:16 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I'm sure we won't hit sasberg, just saying.

Lol. I know.

 

The only games I play are games where I don't have to think like dmc or god of war, I know I am a weird girl but I just play to relax not to try to resolve impossible enigmas. Can you make a summary about bioshock if that doesn't bother you or give me a link to read about it ?

Bioshock Infinite ending

Well, the main twist is that the world has millions of path and we only seen one. That said all the paths we see results the same and you choose to believe that you made a difference, but in reality, you didn't. You believe that killing the antagonist in the early days will correct everything. Turns out the antagonist is you, because of infinite loop that one goes good and the other goes bad. Good vs, Bad happens, but the result remains the same: you end up in the lighthouse. It's very confusing, but you can read it in wiki which is actually accurate.

That all said NS is like that. No matter what little to big path you enter, you are destined to that destination point, which in this case NS being canon. The only way to fix it is one dies, but knowing Kishi, that won't happen.

 

I'm curious to see how many people from other forums would support SasuIno. As we are all aware Ino still maintains her feelings for him despite having little understanding of who or what he is. Despite the belief that she could potentially become involved with either of her teammates Ino has not expressed any indications that she would reciprocate their sentiments if they were to confess having to having an attraction for her. Of course, I fail to understand why Ino is so infatuated with Sasuke that she would grieve for his life and the notion that what feels is a "positive love". From little information we can infer as to her reasoning for being attracted to him she only desired him because of his aloof personality and physical features. There was nothing but hollow attractions to qualities that she believes are "cool". Is that how Kishi defines a "positive love"?

 

This directly relates to Sakura's feelings as well. If people believe that Sakura will forever remain "in love" with Sasuke due to recent misconceptions of particular panels then why would they not apply this same standard to Ino or Karin? If anything the former has expressed a greater dedication as she persists in clinging to her distorted image of what Sasuke is whilst Sakura has (or at least did) accept that Sasuke was not the same person that they used to know.

Well the thing about Sakura is that she has two directions to go to: Sasuke or Naruto. Ino got one and due to being side character, it's not like we know if there's any options for her. The team she's in are her friends, but again, due to not focusing on her, we can only say she only has set her eyes on Sasuke, and no one come in the way to help her or back up. Sure, she tries to make a move on Sai, but it didn't last long. Karin is the same, though she has the Juvia effect, where she can be pretty crazy on love. For example, in Fairy Tail, Juvia did one bad thing or wrong thing and she tells Gray to spank her for her punishment. Granted Karin is not that way since she's at least aggressive with soft touch, but her love for Sasuke is there.

 

Now as for Sakura, well, she has two directions. If she was to have one direction, no Naruto, then well, she is going to get no love or Sasuke in the end. But because of two directions, the story is not on SS favor at all because Kishi, to me, is doing on purpose to have Sakura feeling the real relationship effect with Naruto, such as smiling, caring, etc. So no doubt, Kishi did this on purpose. Usually, a person with one direction usually wins, especially if the other person truly show caring and having a nice relationship. That's not the case here. To make matter worse, NS has too much backup. So how is Kishi going to end this love triangle turmoil? That we wait for the answer.

[NS4Life]

What feelings does Sakura have for Sasuke?? Love, friendship, or what?

 

He tried to kill her twice. I can never get that out of my mind. If Sasuke returned her feelings or they were in a relationship, I could understand it. I don't agree with abusive relationships, but they happen.

 

So what are these feelings she has? How can you love a guy that has never showed signs of liking you and tried to kill you.

[TouKen4Life3g]

What feelings does Sakura have for Sasuke?? Love, friendship, or what?

 

He tried to kill her twice. I can never get that out of my mind. If Sasuke returned her feelings or they were in a relationship, I could understand it. I don't agree with abusive relationships, but they happen.

 

So what are these feelings she has? How can you love a guy that has never showed signs of liking you and tried to kill you.

Well, I guess you can say that's the point that she needs to learn for herself. I believe James or someone else made a FF8 reference where the girl thought she's in love, but turns out it was more sibling relationship. So how can Sakura figure it out? Well, that's what we are waiting for. As for Naruto, knowing the past hints, yeah, you get the idea what is it.

[NS4Life]

Well, I guess you can say that's the point that she needs to learn for herself. I believe James or someone else made a FF8 reference where the girl thought she's in love, but turns out it was more sibling relationship. So how can Sakura figure it out? Well, that's what we are waiting for. As for Naruto, knowing the past hints, yeah, you get the idea what is it.

 

Thanks.

 

I hope NS happens sooner than later. I like to see their relationship grow even more than just a summary at the end.

[Kakashi-Sensei]

What feelings does Sakura have for Sasuke?? Love, friendship, or what?

 

He tried to kill her twice. I can never get that out of my mind. If Sasuke returned her feelings or they were in a relationship, I could understand it. I don't agree with abusive relationships, but they happen.

 

So what are these feelings she has? How can you love a guy that has never showed signs of liking you and tried to kill you.

She does love him, but chapter 540 make me think that this love is negative for Sakura and that she was slowly breaking up those feelings with him.

 

However, that last chapter with the blush that she make when Sasuke help her + the fact that she said is name first make me souspicious about that now

[NS4Life]

She does love him, but chapter 540 make me think that this love is negative for Sakura and that she was slowly breaking up those feelings with him.

 

However, that last chapter with the blush that she make when Sasuke help her + the fact that she said is name first make me souspicious about that now

 

Thanks. It just doesn't make sense to love someone still after they tried to kill you twice. I just don't see how she could make sense of it in her head.

 

IMO, she was happy to have her old team back.

Edited by NS4Life, 31 May 2013 - 03:04 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

She does love him, but chapter 540 make me think that this love is negative for Sakura and that she was slowly breaking up those feelings with him.
 
However, that last chapter with the blush that she make when Sasuke help her + the fact that she said is name first make me souspicious about that now

He appeared there first while Naruto took like 3 seconds to get there, so that's his lost for coming late and make her only say Sasuke's name. The point is to have both being on her side as they are seen as equal. So yeah, no longer Sakura is behind, even though the other guys are really strong, let alone Naruto is the next god but I digress. This is only one chapter and it was about her to finally reach to them. So now where do we go from there? Well guess we have to wait and see.

[Atheck]

Well the thing about Sakura is that she has two directions to go to: Sasuke or Naruto. Ino got one and due to being side character, it's not like we know if there's any options for her. The team she's in are her friends, but again, due to not focusing on her, we can only say she only has set her eyes on Sasuke, and no one come in the way to help her or back up. Sure, she tries to make a move on Sai, but it didn't last long. Karin is the same, though she has the Juvia effect, where she can be pretty crazy on love. For example, in Fairy Tail, Juvia did one bad thing or wrong thing and she tells Gray to spank her for her punishment. Granted Karin is not that way since she's at least aggressive with soft touch, but her love for Sasuke is there.

 

Now as for Sakura, well, she has two directions. If she was to have one direction, no Naruto, then well, she is going to get no love or Sasuke in the end. But because of two directions, the story is not on SS favor at all because Kishi, to me, is doing on purpose to have Sakura feeling the real relationship effect with Naruto, such as smiling, caring, etc. So no doubt, Kishi did this on purpose. Usually, a person with one direction usually wins, especially if the other person truly show caring and having a nice relationship. That's not the case here. To make matter worse, NS has too much backup. So how is Kishi going to end this love triangle turmoil? That we wait for the answer.

 

The flaw in Ino's mentality that she is attracted to a man for reasons that are completely shallow in nature. There is no expressed desire to understand who Sasuke is psychologically or even to try and vindicate his name as Naruto has been attempting to do. Has there ever been an inkling from Ino that her sentiments have any altruistic qualities? Does she value Sasuke's opinions on herself or matters in general? At least with her teammates there have been some insinuations that they may see her as more than a friend. One example of this being Ino's conversation with Choji at the beginning of the Sasuke Retrieval Arc when she was playfully teasing him about his weight and stating that he should change his appearance if he wants to acquire the attention of any girls, this is with a suggestive look on her face and I believe Choji may have been blushing during this moment.

 

Ino's "love" for Sasuke is practically just as lustful in nature as Karin's. It's unhealthy and she needs to understand that there are reasons for becoming involved with someone apart from leacherous desires or because of some twisted concept of what is a good personality. When hearing these other fans argue that Sakura's "love" has been rekindled by Sasuke's appearance I can't help but think how hypocritical or dismissive that notion is because they seem to be under the impression that Sakura is the only one with these "feelings" for Sasuke. Well what about Ino and Karin? If we use their logic then would it not be impossible for those two to remain forever bound emotionally to Sasuke? Or can there be resolution to these girls' feelings? Can they not move past their childish infatuations and understand what true love is? That's my question to these people.

 

The SS fandom needs to consider all possible angles to this predicament of theirs because Sakura is not the only one who must contend with their feelings for Sasuke. Although I don't believe either Sakura or Ino will remain with him. The most likely candidate for that position will be Karin and you know... At least Sasuke has shown concern for her wellbeing in the past. With Karin there is/was at least some resemblance to positive emotional dedication from Sasuke. SK does have its many flaws but they aren't as severe as the alternatives.

[Zatheko]

He appeared there first while Naruto took like 3 seconds to get there, so that's his lost for coming late and make her only say Sasuke's name. The point is to have both being on her side as they are seen as equal. So yeah, no longer Sakura is behind, even though the other guys are really strong, let alone Naruto is the next god but I digress. This is only one chapter and it was about her to finally reach to them. So now where do we go from there? Well guess we have to wait and see.

Honestly I felt like that whole scene with Sakura saying his name first and Naruto pouting was just to show that team 7 is back, what better way to do it then to have them  interact in a similar way like back in part 1.

[NS4Life]

Honestly I felt like that whole scene with Sakura saying his name first and Naruto pouting was just to show that team 7 is back, what better way to do it then to have them  interact in a similar way like back in part 1.

 

Agree.

 

I feel it was all about Sakura, team 7, and the others.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 

The flaw in Ino's mentality that she is attracted to a man for reasons that are completely shallow in nature. There is no expressed desire to understand who Sasuke is psychologically or even to try and vindicate his name as Naruto has been attempting to do. Has there ever been an inkling from Ino that her sentiments have any altruistic qualities? Does she value Sasuke's opinions on herself or matters in general? At least with her teammates there have been some insinuations that they may see her as more than a friend. One example of this being Ino's conversation with Choji at the beginning of the Sasuke Retrieval Arc when she was playfully teasing him about his weight and stating that he should change his appearance if he wants to acquire the attention of any girls, this is with a suggestive look on her face and I believe Choji may have been blushing during this moment.

 

Ino's "love" for Sasuke is practically just as lustful in nature as Karin's. It's unhealthy and she needs to understand that there are reasons for becoming involved with someone apart from leacherous desires or because of some twisted concept of what is a good personality. When hearing these other fans argue that Sakura's "love" has been rekindled by Sasuke's appearance I can't help but think how hypocritical or dismissive that notion is because they seem to be under the impression that Sakura is the only one with these "feelings" for Sasuke. Well what about Ino and Karin? If we use their logic then would it not be impossible for those two to remain forever bound emotionally to Sasuke? Or can there be resolution to these girls' feelings? Can they not move past their childish infatuations and understand what true love is? That's my question to these people.

 

The SS fandom needs to consider all possible angles to this predicament of theirs because Sakura is not the only one who must contend with their feelings for Sasuke. Although I don't believe either Sakura or Ino will remain with him. The most likely candidate for that position will be Karin and you know... At least Sasuke has shown concern for her wellbeing in the past. With Karin there is/was at least some resemblance to positive emotional dedication from Sasuke. SK does have its many flaws but they aren't as severe as the alternatives.

I know what you mean. It's funny that everyone is showcasing their feelings one last time before the conclusion. Only problem is that Naruto got the escape card because of Minato, so he's not changing for anything. I wasn't aware of Ino's feelings for Sasuke until the last arc, which same can be said for Sakura. It's as if this arc is like a thank you gift from Kishi with all characters being their old days before their closure, with few exceptions of Team 7, who are getting their developments.

 

That said is it possible that Sakura can move on here? Possible, but NS won't be canon until they both come in terms. The first step is to move on. Then either feel sad that there's no love in you or already found a new person. So yeah, it's possible that it could happen when we least expected, but I wouldn't count on it. For some reason, the fact Ino has feelings for Sasuke makes me think Sakura's feelings for Sasuke is not so special, rather a place holder for the true love that is yet to come. The funny thing is that Karin didn't see her love as negative when we saw her in 574, rather very pissed that he did that to her, but again, it's not depression, rather a bit of revenge. As for the other two, well yeah they are negative.

 

You know, if it wasn't for the last arc, I wouldn't think Karin is somewhat compatible for Sasuke because of her just being typical fangirl. But the more I see her in that arc, I actually don't mind it at all, hell even her first meeting is more legit than Sakura and Ino. I mean it's understandable to have interest with a guy who just saved you, let alone smile. It reminded of a cartoon, where the girl is like suffering until that one boy was very kind and helpful, so she fell in love. I will be damned that all it takes to love is appearance. Now I think about it, I guess Naruto does need to say the forehead comment because Kushina was changed forever when Minato said that about her hair, so if Sakura is truly parallel, which she is now, then does that mean a forehead comment will seal it? Wow, that just occurred now. Not getting hopes up. I'm going to let this slide for now.

 

Bottom line, we have to hope Kishi knows what's he doing in terms of this and if you asked me, well, SS vs. NS has begun and we could be in for some surprises. I don't know what that will be but we will see.

 

Honestly I felt like that whole scene with Sakura saying his name first and Naruto pouting was just to show that team 7 is back, what better way to do it then to have them  interact in a similar way like back in part 1.

Indeed.

[Shadow Wolf]

Honestly I felt like that whole scene with Sakura saying his name first and Naruto pouting was just to show that team 7 is back, what better way to do it then to have them  interact in a similar way like back in part 1.

 

 

You know? I think that there is one thing I would like to point out. I'm not sure if Kishi did this on purpose or not, so I want to know what you guys think.

 

There is a subtle difference between the old Team 7 interaction and the new one: how Sakura treats Naruto now.

 

I'm pretty sure that, if this was the old Team 7, Sakura would probably disapprove of Naruto's presence and of his bickering with Sasuke. Yet now, we see that after Naruto pouts, not only she responds, but depending on how the translation goes (we need the raws for proof), she might have even address him instead of the team. The fact is that she is actually approving of Naruto's presence here, which to me, it is a good indicator that she is not the same Sakura as before (I could speculate on this being a hint for NaruSaku, but I want to make sure that the raw confirms this first).