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[HokagexNaruto]

Everyone worries, so it's not a problem! Trust me, I've done a fair amount of that myself so yeah. 

 

For his reaction... he might blush? Make a joke and get hit on the head by her? Be surprised? Want another one? I have no idea, but I really want to see him with those small lips again because they're hilarious.. lol. What do you think? 

Edited by HokagexNaruto, 12 March 2014 - 07:10 PM.

[narusaku256]

That oddly makes me remember that scene wherein he's dreaming about kissing Sakura and later on when she appears in his room and Naruto being Naruto does that pathetic smooching face and then what happens from Sakura's side we all know XD

[Gojira]

I'm torn between what will happen

 

one one hand logically thinking there's no way NS can't be canon because of evidence like chapters 298, 631,the databooks and Kushina's last words (forgot which chapter that was)

 

On the other hand realistically speaking I don't see a way NS can work out entirely, because of everything that happened in the Kage Summit arc that made everything confusing. Basically Naruto won't accept Sakura's feelings (which may or may not be fake) because she still likes Sasuke. Well all she has to do is get over her love for Sasuke, well that's all well and good except the whole finale of the Kage Summit arc showed that she can't stop loving him no matter how hard she tries and on top of that she can't exactly return Naruto's love without the possibility of it sounding like kitten like the fake confession and even then she has to actually prove she's over Sasuke because Naruto seems to be adamant as kitten about it and is not going to budge

 

The only way i can see this working out is Sakura having a love epiphany (kind of like what Winry went through in FMA albiet pretty briefly) and then somehow convince Naruto this time. yes Naruto would most likely be the one confessing here but unless Sakura proves she likes him over Sasuke its basically going to be a repeat of what happened before.

[HokagexNaruto]

LOL. I loved that! If I was him. I would've done the exact same thing. Haha.

But yeah... he may not find out about the CPR until after they defeat Madara or something. I mean, unless she tells him she did it or Gaara does. Madara is kinda the main focus for now, but still there has been comedy moments lately so who knows!

[Inferno180]

You know what, it's just potential ns scene coming, we want to see how she reacts to naruto being fine and if that scene is something that goes along the lines of what happened with the hug in 450, just bigger.

Maybe it's that 2011 ova we want to see happen. It would be incredible if something similar like that occurred and that was a noncanon ova for all accounts, here's hoping we get the moment we are hoping for I mean hinata is left behind, if the scene is meaningful, it may be the moment to lock out any bigger nh moments that could occur, because seriously, this was one of the biggest moments in the series and out of all people sakura went with naruto in his time of need. What will happen as obito put yin kurama into him, we just hope Sakura's reaction is a good one. Really looking back at 615 and 469(at first) they both seemed like the end of ns at first but then as time went in it wasn't the full focus, then we get this big moment and it's almost ideal, I mean aside from the Kushina deal last year, we are currently in a situation where sakura is with naruto aside from obito, Karin is with Sasuke, hinata was left out and though we didn't need to see her trip, it's just again kishi could have given her a ride but he left her behind.

Then the result if 663 was fans outraged at sakura giving CPR and calling her necophilaic because it's sakura doing it, if it was hinata giving for they would be all over it and scream canon again and again. Hell Kishi could have made her come to support naruto and do the mouth to mouth stuff while sakura did the heart stuff but no it's all sakura, seriously things are looking bad for nh, SS, and antins fans.

Oh man as winter ends, these chapters were eventful but now moving on with the guy fighting with all gates against Madara, it's only a matter of time before we see naruto again.

[PhenixElite]

I'm torn between what will happen

 

one one hand logically thinking there's no way NS can't be canon because of evidence like chapters 298, 631,the databooks and Kushina's last words (forgot which chapter that was)

 

On the other hand realistically speaking I don't see a way NS can work out entirely, because of everything that happened in the Kage Summit arc that made everything confusing. Basically Naruto won't accept Sakura's feelings (which may or may not be fake) because she still likes Sasuke. Well all she has to do is get over her love for Sasuke, well that's all well and good except the whole finale of the Kage Summit arc showed that she can't stop loving him no matter how hard she tries and on top of that she can't exactly return Naruto's love without the possibility of it sounding like bullsh** like the fake confession and even then she has to actually prove she's over Sasuke because Naruto seems to be adamant as kitten about it and is not going to budge

 

The only way i can see this working out is Sakura having a love epiphany (kind of like what Winry went through in FMA albiet pretty briefly) and then somehow convince Naruto this time. yes Naruto would most likely be the one confessing here but unless Sakura proves she likes him over Sasuke its basically going to be a repeat of what happened before.

Well i would call that overthinking.

[PacificWater20]

In my opinion, either Naruto/Sasuke will appear back on the battlefield to save the day, seemingly skipping any reaction in the other dimension and jumping right into the action (then later a flashback occurs showing what interaction happened between Naruto and Sakura then Obito while they were away) or we will actually see the scene soon and possibly be exactly like the OVA.

As cool as the second one sounds, I don't see it being all that likely. Knowing Kishi, he'll probably just jump right back into the action and save the romance stuff until after the war. But who knows! Maybe we'll see something sooner rather than later.

[Gojira]

Well i would call that overthinking.

Is it? I'm just stating with evidence given. I don't think it's a secret that what happened in the summit arc made this pretty complicated.

[KnS]

LOL damn, man! You bombard me with a wall of text. 

 

 

Sorry.  Writers write.  It's what we do.  

 

@KnS

 

I've said in a previous post that for me what Sai explains about Sakura "saving Sasuke from darkness" is along the lines of Sakura's justification for being capable of killing someone she loves.

 

The reason Sakura goes to kill Sasuke is Naruto's safety, but it's still emotionally difficult to commit such an act against someone you have feelings for (which is what Naruto was arguing for). That's where Sai's explanation comes in.

 

Yes, I understand, but that wasn't my point.  My point was that Sai's explanation was speculation on his part.  We never saw Sakura think or act in a way that said, "I love Sasuke so much... and he's sinking so low... I must kill him for his own good -- because I love him so much!!"  What we saw from her was the opposite -- that she was choosing to do it for Naruto and because of Naruto.

 

That part of Sai's explanation just never rang true for me.  When it was released and I read it the first time, I had to go back over that part several times because it was the part of the confession scene that didn't make sense to me.  Everything else worked, in context, but then at the end he tacks on that part and it only managed to cancel out what Sakura had actually chosen to do for Naruto. 

 

By saying what he did the way he did, Sai made it sound as if Sakura's main and true motive was killing Sasuke for Sasuke's good because she loves him so much -- as if Sasuke was her focus and motivation for everything.  It's the main element that casts the entire confession in a questionable light.  It's the element that makes it seem as if the feelings for Naruto that she confessed were completely phony.

 

It would have been completely different if Sai had said, "Sasuke is going to be killed, one way or another, and Shikamaru sought permission from Team 7 first.  Sakura knew you would never agree, so she chose to take the responsibility for Sasuke's death upon herself -- for your sake, Naruto."  

 

THAT would have made sense.  That would not have been speculation on Sai's part, and would have been supported by what he actually knew and that we as readers had been shown.

 

But apparently this is something that only bothers me.  I realize there are other examples of this kind of stuff in the manga, but Sakura's confession -- and how it came across to Naruto and to readers -- was pretty important to have Sai be muddying the waters with explanations that put things in a different light.  

 

Just my opinion, and now I will take my little red wagon and go home.  

 

Basically Naruto won't accept Sakura's feelings (which may or may not be fake) because she still likes Sasuke. Well all she has to do is get over her love for Sasuke, well that's all well and good except the whole finale of the Kage Summit arc showed that she can't stop loving him no matter how hard she tries and on top of that she can't exactly return Naruto's love without the possibility of it sounding like bullsh** like the fake confession and even then she has to actually prove she's over Sasuke because Naruto seems to be adamant as f**k about it and is not going to budge

 

This is patently false.  You are ignoring the events that have happened since Sakura's confession that disprove these assertions you continue to make. 

[Gojira]

 

 

Sorry.  Writers write.  It's what we do.  

 

 

Yes, I understand, but that wasn't my point.  My point was that Sai's explanation was speculation on his part.  We never saw Sakura think or act in a way that said, "I love Sasuke so much... and he's sinking so low... I must kill him for his own good -- because I love him so much!!"  What we saw from her was the opposite -- that she was choosing to do it for Naruto and because of Naruto.

 

That part of Sai's explanation just never rang true for me.  When it was released and I read it the first time, I had to go back over that part several times because it was the part of the confession scene that didn't make sense to me.  Everything else worked, in context, but then at the end he tacks on that part and it only managed to cancel out what Sakura had actually chosen to do for Naruto. 

 

By saying what he did the way he did, Sai made it sound as if Sakura's main and true motive was killing Sasuke for Sasuke's good because she loves him so much -- as if Sasuke was her focus and motivation for everything.  It's the main element that casts the entire confession in a questionable light.  It's the element that makes it seem as if the feelings for Naruto that she confessed were completely phony.

 

It would have been completely different if Sai had said, "Sasuke is going to be killed, one way or another, and Shikamaru sought permission from Team 7 first.  Sakura knew you would never agree, so she chose to take the responsibility for Sasuke's death upon herself -- for your sake, Naruto."  

 

THAT would have made sense.  That would not have been speculation on Sai's part, and would have been supported by what he actually knew and that we as readers had been shown.

 

But apparently this is something that only bothers me.  I realize there are other examples of this kind of stuff in the manga, but Sakura's confession -- and how it came across to Naruto and to readers -- was pretty important to have Sai be muddying the waters with explanations that put things in a different light.  

 

Just my opinion, and now I will take my little red wagon and go home.  

 

 

This is patently false.  You are ignoring the events that have happened since Sakura's confession that disprove these assertions you continue to make. 

like what? 

[BakeNeko-Chan]

 

 

Sorry.  Writers write.  It's what we do.  

 

 

Yes, I understand, but that wasn't my point.  My point was that Sai's explanation was speculation on his part.  We never saw Sakura think or act in a way that said, "I love Sasuke so much... and he's sinking so low... I must kill him for his own good -- because I love him so much!!"  What we saw from her was the opposite -- that she was choosing to do it for Naruto and because of Naruto.

 

That part of Sai's explanation just never rang true for me.  When it was released and I read it the first time, I had to go back over that part several times because it was the part of the confession scene that didn't make sense to me.  Everything else worked, in context, but then at the end he tacks on that part and it only managed to cancel out what Sakura had actually chosen to do for Naruto. 

 

By saying what he did the way he did, Sai made it sound as if Sakura's main and true motive was killing Sasuke for Sasuke's good because she loves him so much -- as if Sasuke was her focus and motivation for everything.  It's the main element that casts the entire confession in a questionable light.  It's the element that makes it seem as if the feelings for Naruto that she confessed were completely phony.

 

It would have been completely different if Sai had said, "Sasuke is going to be killed, one way or another, and Shikamaru sought permission from Team 7 first.  Sakura knew you would never agree, so she chose to take the responsibility for Sasuke's death upon herself -- for your sake, Naruto."  

 

THAT would have made sense.  That would not have been speculation on Sai's part, and would have been supported by what he actually knew and that we as readers had been shown.

 

But apparently this is something that only bothers me.  I realize there are other examples of this kind of stuff in the manga, but Sakura's confession -- and how it came across to Naruto and to readers -- was pretty important to have Sai be muddying the waters with explanations that put things in a different light.  

 

Just my opinion, and now I will take my little red wagon and go home.  

 

 

 

 

Nope, it's not only you. I completely agree.

[sushi.]

Naruto asked why she did it, so Sai tried to make sense of it. He came up with the answer on the spot, I think. The question felt sudden to him.

[KnS]

like what? 

 

I covered nearly all of it in the very first post I wrote to you when you first joined.  This one here.

 

 

Nope, it's not only you. I completely agree.

 

Thanks.  Sometimes I feel like a lone voice, crying out from the wilderness.  (And no, not that Wilderness, lol.)

 

Naruto asked why she did it, so Sai tried to make sense of it. He came up with the answer on the spot, I think. The question felt sudden to him.

 

Right.  That's kind of my point.  Sai was talking out of his butt.  He came up with an answer on the spot that wasn't the answer he -- or we, as readers -- were shown.  

 

It's just my opinion, but if any part of the confession scene is false, it's that -- Sai saying that Sakura was willing to kill Sasuke because she loved him so much.  

[PhenixElite]

Is it? I'm just stating with evidence given. I don't think it's a secret that what happened in the summit arc made this pretty complicated.

Theres nothing so complicated. Lets say sakura still loved sasuke that much back then during the confession, theres no evidence that she now over nearly 200 chapters still does. You can start worrieng if shes now shown to still fully love him. Also this whole part about naruto wont confess because of his promise or him not believing sakura because he will always think that she loves sasuke is just ridiculous.

 

As soon as naruto kept his promis he will confess no matter if he believes that she still loves sasuke.  Its also possible that sakura will show through actions that she loves naruto not sasuke anymore (ova 2011) or something like that. Your acting like nothing sakura is able to do will make naruto believe that shes over sasuke and thats just kitten.

[Gojira]

Theres nothing so complicated. Lets say sakura still loved sasuke that much back then during the confession, theres no evidence that she now over nearly 200 chapters still does. You can start worrieng if shes now shown to still fully love him. Also this whole part about naruto wont confess because of his promise or him not believing sakura because he will always think that she loves sasuke is just ridiculous.

 

As soon as naruto kept his promis he will confess no matter if he believes that she still loves sasuke.  Its also possible that sakura will show through actions that she loves naruto not sasuke anymore (ova 2011) or something like that. Your acting like nothing sakura is able to do will make naruto believe that shes over sasuke and thats just bullsh**.

The love fodder scene kind of proves it, that she atleast thinks she does. I doubt that she has chosen Naruto over Sasuke suddenly off-panel considering that  it was a relationship she was committed to 90% of the series.

 

I think you misunderstand I'm not saying he won't confess, but its going to be be difficult for Sakura to return those feelings and convince Naruto that she loves him and not Sasuke this time

 

I am not saying that there's nothing Sakura can do, all i'm saying is that Kishi despite putting some heavy implications on this pairing for the longest time, has made it somewhat difficult if not slightly confusing

 

 

I covered nearly all of it in the very first post I wrote to you when you first joined.  This one here.

 

These are differnet arguments I'm trying to make though. My point is that everything in the Land of Iron that happened has took this pairing and made it difficult for it to move forward in a realistic way (logically we know they are gonna get together at the end given all the evidence assuming again that Kishi doesn't do what his brother did with 666 Satan)

[sushi.]

^NS didn't let the events at the Summit arc stop them. How exactly did was it such a big hit to the ship? Since their characters don't hold it against eachother, are you suggesting that from a narrative perspective, it implied that a relationship between them wouldn't work? Please explain.

[PhenixElite]

The love fodder scene kind of proves it, that she atleast thinks she does. I doubt that she has chosen Naruto over Sasuke suddenly off-panel considering that  it was a relationship she was committed to 90% of the series.

 

I think you misunderstand I'm not saying he won't confess, but its going to be be difficult for Sakura to return those feelings and convince Naruto that she loves him and not Sasuke this time

 

I am not saying that there's nothing Sakura can do, all i'm saying is that Kishi despite putting some heavy implications on this pairing for the longest time, has made it somewhat difficult if not slightly confusing

 

The love fodder scene proves nothing at all. This scene is not clear enough to assume that sakura still loves him, it can be the contrary too. I remember that chapter beeing  after sasuke tried to kill her and sakura realizing how cold hearted sasuke really is. So i wont assume that a picture of sasuke in front of black flames is there to show how much she still loves him.

 

Edit: 

The thing i dont understand is what makes the confession so damn important? You should be happy that NS even has a scene like that,you can see it like  a hurdle in their realationship and it shows you that NS is a pairing that should be taken serious nothing more. In my opinion the confession doesnt even matter at all it can be just forgotten since 631 and yamatos comment are way more stronger.

 

Just imagine: 

Kishi adds the scene where sakura is shown to be  the girl his kushina wanted for naruto but in the end he decides to choose hinata.

Kishi adds the scene where sakura is shown to be  the girl his kushina wanted for naruto but in the end the she decides to choose the bad guy who tried to kill her.

Kishi adds the scene where  sakura is shown to be the girl his kushina wanted for naruto but in the end theres no pairing at all.

 

im asking myself why even add this scene if some of the above where to happen.

Edited by PhenixElite, 13 March 2014 - 12:18 AM.

[Gojira]

 

^NS didn't let the events at the Summit arc stop them. How exactly did was it such a big hit to the ship? Since their characters don't hold it against eachother, are you suggesting that from a narrative perspective, it implied that a relationship between them wouldn't work? Please explain.

I'm not saying it was a hit to the pair I'm saying its more like restraining it from moving on further.

 

They are still at the "kind of sort of friends but maybe sort of ambiguously closer than that" level if they are going to move onto being an actual pair (which Kishi most likely will) he needs to get around the corner he wrote himself in with the land of iron situation. NS didn't take a hit from what happened but this pair isn't going anywhere until the problems in the summit arc have been solved (Sakura getting over Sasuke, and Naruto actually accepting that etc.)

 

The love fodder scene proves nothing at all. This scene is not clear enough to assume that sakura still loves him, it can be the contrary too. I remember that chapter beeing  after sasuke tried to kill her and sakura realizing how cold hearted sasuke really is. So i wont assume that a picture of sasuke in front of black flames is there to show how much she still loves him.

It was pretty straight-forward, concerning who she loves and she thought of Sasuke, granted ofcourse its an anti SS moment but at this point I don't really buy the fact that she doesn't love Sasuke anymore until its actually proven because her still loving him despite seeing what a psychopathic douche he was and trying to kill her several times didn't stop her from loving him I just don't believe she automatically stopped loving him at all off-panel and turned to Naruto all of the sudden without it being shown. 

[sushi.]

I'm not saying it was a hit to the pair I'm saying its more like restraining it from moving on further.

 

They are still at the "kind of sort of friends but maybe sort of ambiguously closer than that" level if they are going to move onto being an actual pair (which Kishi most likely will) he needs to get around the corner he wrote himself in with the land of iron situation. NS didn't take a hit from what happened but this pair isn't going anywhere until the problems in the summit arc have been solved (Sakura getting over Sasuke, and Naruto actually accepting that etc.)

 

Oh, okay. Either way I just wanted you to elaborate. I get what you're saying, but those obstacles existed before the summit arc. What happened there in itself didn't restrain the ship, it just touched the issue more literally than before. It is very fundamental in the love triangle, and has been around since the beginning.

Edited by sushi., 13 March 2014 - 12:21 AM.

[PhenixElite]

 

It was pretty straight-forward, concerning who she loves and she thought of Sasuke, granted ofcourse its an anti SS moment but at this point I don't really buy the fact that she doesn't love Sasuke anymore until its actually proven because her still loving him despite seeing what a psychopathic douche he was and trying to kill her several times didn't stop her from loving him I just don't believe she automatically stopped loving him at all off-panel and turned to Naruto all of the sudden without it being shown. 

 

Sasuke tried to kill her, after those chapters it was never really shown that she still fully loves him. 540 would have been straight forward if it would have been like:" theres someone that i like" then sakura thinking of sasuke not:"if its somebody that you love hes bound to be a great person."

Edited by PhenixElite, 13 March 2014 - 12:27 AM.