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[Heartsbattle]

It's in the panel below.
Of course, technically, she does not say she'll 'let go', just that she'll stop 'chasing after him'. Whether she means romantically or not is dependent on your perspective.
 
 
 

Thank you very much!

I agree with you. It leaves room for interpretation. Like most of kishi's work,lol.

Edited by Heartsbattle, 10 March 2014 - 09:27 PM.

[Gojira]

the context in her statement was that she was going to stop chasing after him and actually be with him after the war.

 

yes she did hold his hand but that doesn't really contradict her statement.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

the context in her statement was that she was going to stop chasing after him and actually be with him after the war.

 

yes she did hold his hand but that doesn't really contradict her statement.

 

If that's how you choose to interpret it. Far be it for me to tell you that you can't see it that way, I just personally don't think that is what it means and I've already explained why.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I'm a bit baffled to give NH a chance. Yeah, I know, it's opinions and I do respect that, but for me, I'm going to stay away from this topic.

[narusaku256]

Either we will get a NS moment or we'll get Guy's death in next manga. Both of them cannot occur in a single manga since the impact of one will kill the impact of the other

[TouKen4Life3g]

Either we will get a NS moment or we'll get Guy's death in next manga. Both of them cannot occur in a single manga since the impact of one will kill the impact of the other

Agreed. Almost feels like all impact from 663 was stolen by CPR. I even joked about it that many actually forgot that Madara just became Jinchuuriki.

[TheFirstEvil100]

Hmmmmm I think we will get Gai's death next chapter and maybe after that and this is me being hopeful the one after that is a big NaruSaku moment. 

[narusaku256]

I think the chances of we witnessing Guy's death are pretty damn high. I don't see Kishi showing us the NS moment and getting done with Naruto meeting some old man in afterlife and the convesation between Naruto and Sakura or Obito whatever in a single manga. So I think that would drag on Guy's death way longer than its meant to be. So I guess we have to brace ourselves since we might witness the end of springtime of youth AKA Guy's death :(

[LadyGT]

the context in her statement was that she was going to stop chasing after him and actually be with him after the war.
 
yes she did hold his hand but that doesn't really contradict her statement.

Not really, she said that after the war she would stop chasing after him/going after him and that the next time they would meet she would hold his hand and blah blah.

The hand holding happened before the end of the war so yeah.

She could have pointed out her desire to stay with him after the war in her last statement, but again, everyone likes to interpreter this manga as they wish, I ain't going to stop you from that.

[Gojira]

Its not how I wished to interpret it, that's just what the context appeared to be I love NS, and its great that its the closest to becoming canon, the only real threat is NH. I just have a hard time believing that after the hand holding she suddenly is talking about Naruto in a platonic way, she has yet to show any evidence that she will stop pursuing him, hell if anything she actually seems somehow more determined. 

[LadyGT]

Its not how I wished to interpret it, that's just what the context appeared to be I love NS, and its great that its the closest to becoming canon, the only real threat is NH. I just have a hard time believing that after the hand holding she suddenly is talking about Naruto in a platonic way, she has yet to show any evidence that she will stop pursuing him, hell if anything she actually seems somehow more determined. 

To me she seems more determinate in being able to keep up with Naruto's and the rest of his friend's strength/will, like in the chapter where Shikamaru recovers, she says that she has to try harder ( and the bond between nakama/comrades was heavily hinted in that chapter).
She'll be there for him like any other of his friends.

[Superman333]

for some reason I just don't think Gai will die .

[KnS]

Its not how I wished to interpret it, that's just what the context appeared to be I love NS, and its great that its the closest to becoming canon, the only real threat is NH. I just have a hard time believing that after the hand holding she suddenly is talking about Naruto in a platonic way, she has yet to show any evidence that she will stop pursuing him, hell if anything she actually seems somehow more determined. 

 

I really don't understand how NH can be considered a threat when there is only H and no N...? 

 

I don't understand how the desires of a secondary character like Hinata, whose own story / background / characterization has no influence or importance to the main plot, could possibly be believed by readers to have so much power over something as critical as the hero's heart...?

 

I can understand die hard Hinata fans believing she's that important, but anyone else?  WHY?

 

Likewise, while Hinata may love Naruto and/or have romantic feelings for him, she does not know him.  She has never been part of his life, his circle of trust, or someone with whom he has shared his feelings and burdens.  Naruto has never sought to change the nature of his interactions with Hinata, and neither has she.  Confessing love when you believe you are both about to die does not count.

 

The cold, hard fact is that Hinata is reflection character whose profound weakness is her sole contribution to the story.  She idolizes Naruto -- "loves" him -- from afar because he gave her hope that she might one day overcome her fears, timidity, inadequacy, and the opinion of those who have given up on her.  That is the point of her character.

 

Hinata is far too timid and kind to force herself on Naruto.  She admitted that she confessed to Naruto for herself -- for her own sake, and out of selfishness.  She's not expecting anything from Naruto.  Nothing at all -- romantically or otherwise.  She sees him -- his nindo -- as her goal.  She wants to escape her unworthiness by emulating him.

 

So it is in that context that her thoughts and expectations should be weighed.  That's what she meant by saying she would stop chasing after him.  Since she has never chased after him romantically, she could only have meant that she had been chasing him as an idol and goal.

 

And even if -- EVEN IF -- she somehow meant it romantically?  It still doesn't matter, and she's still no threat.  Naruto only has eyes for Sakura.  He's the hero, and what he wants and feels is what counts.

Edited by KnS, 10 March 2014 - 08:44 PM.

[Gojira]

The problem is every other pair is pretty one-sided as well NS is no exception (implications show otherwise but Kishi has yet to make it official) 

 

Problem is the fact that she's a secondary character doesn't change the fact that her whole character revolves around her romantic admiration for the main character. Even if she's a secondary character that doesn't change the fact that it is still a problem. I hate to make parallels with other manga because it doesn't really seem like a good argument but i'll go ahead, Chi-Chi was a secondary whose whole purpose in dragonball was pretty much the same. Yes she admires him from afar and that is her character which is what makes her statement about wanting to be with him by the end of the war a problem. 

 

I'm not disagreeing with any of your points I'm simply pointing out what I think might prove to be troublesome. 

 

 

for some reason I just don't think Gai will die .

 

I doubt he will, likely someone would likely keep him from dying, he'll likely be incapacitated for the rest of the war but the set-up appears to be that someone might save Gai's life at the last second.

Edited by Pepsi, 10 March 2014 - 08:51 PM.

[KnS]

 

The problem is every other pair is pretty one-sided as well NS is no exception (implications show otherwise but Kishi has yet to make it official) 

 

Problem is the fact that she's a secondary character doesn't change the fact that her whole character revolves around her romantic admiration for the main character. Even if she's a secondary character that doesn't change the fact that it is still a problem. I hate to make parallels with other manga because it doesn't really seem like a good argument but i'll go ahead, Chi-Chi was a secondary whose whole purpose in dragonball was pretty much the same. Yes she admires him from afar and that is her character which is what makes her statement about wanting to be with him by the end of the war a problem. 

 

I'm not disagreeing with any of your points I'm simply pointing out what I think might prove to be troublesome. 

 

Let me ask you a couple of Yes/No questions.

 

1. Has Naruto shown any sign of returning Hinata's romantic feelings?

 

2. Do you believe Naruto loves Sakura?

[Gojira]

 

Let me ask you a couple of Yes/No questions.

 

1. Has Naruto shown any sign of returning Hinata's romantic feelings?

 

2. Do you believe Naruto loves Sakura?

1. No

 

2. Yes

 

but again we're back to square one here. 

[KnS]

1. No

 

2. Yes

 

but again we're back to square one here. 

 

How on Earth is it square one?  

[Gojira]

 

How on Earth is it square one?  

Because both are one-sided relationships with one taking a steady lead due foreshadowing and hints.

[KnS]

Because both are one-sided relationships with one taking a steady lead due foreshadowing and hints.

 

Even if H --> N  and  N --> S are one-sided (and NS is not entirely one-sided, by the way), the point is that the story is called Naruto.  Not Hinata.

 

If Naruto doesn't consider Hinata as a love interest, if he's never noticed her and has never responded in any way to her confession, and likewise has never shown even the slightest thought of considering another girl other than Sakura in 667 chapters, then Hinata is no threat to NS.  None whatsoever.

 

Like I said, Naruto is the hero.  It's his story.  It's about him achieving his goals.  It's about him getting his heart's desire, and by your own admission that's Sakura.  Naruto will get what he wants.

 

That's why it matters that Hinata is a secondary character.  What she wants is irrelevant if it's not what Naruto wants.

Edited by KnS, 10 March 2014 - 09:30 PM.

[sushi.]

Because both are one-sided relationships with one taking a steady lead due foreshadowing and hints.

NS is only one-sided because Sakura's side is unconfirmed. But it is obvious that she has feelings for him. Are so reluctant to grasp the hints until they're official, in fear of being wrong?

 

If you absolutely need direct answers, you could always read the 3rd databook. It certifies the subtext in the manga, with text. Sakura's feelings for Naruto are implied in the manga, and I interpret it as romantic. In the databook, it is not only implied it is confirmed. If that is not enough, we'll get the answer soon anyway. ^^