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#15441 StrikerTheNoble

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:17 PM

HINATA LIVES AND SHES DUTCH?



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:31 PM

That picture kinda scared me.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:35 PM

QUOTE (sakurx @ Apr 5 2013, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That picture kinda scared me.


Kinda looks like Hinata doesn`t it?

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:10 PM

I think that's a very extreme interpretation of Hinata's character.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:18 PM

Just remember its like this currently:

NaruSaku: Can happen, very developed in the past, most realistic relationship, been dormant for a while but it will come up again. Does no damage to the story, gives Sakura's character good development ending with Naruto by her getting over Sasuke, basically she matures. Keeps Sasuke's character intact as well, his development is not effected at all and he can develop independent of this for things without trouble.

NaruHina: It exists, it can happen, just much smaller and not as developed as NaruHina. Causes some damage to the story, effects Naruto's logic as a character, Sakura becomes a problem for her future/end development, damages the story by just showing all past development of Naruto and Sakura as mere friendship, risks Hinata's role in terms of importance and where she can actually be, she cannot enter any business when it comes to team 7. Would be rushed and very underdeveloped compared to NaruSaku. Its a problem considering this manga is almost entering the ending phase. Causes many issues for it to come canon. Basically it has less meaning than NaruSaku, it does not have as much of a lasting value, and it shakes a few story parts up (like pacing, consistency, logic etc).

SasuSaku: Damages Sasuke and Sakura's characters immensly, puts Sasuke out of character and ruins Sakura's development. Basically it does so much damage to the story it becomes a gloried fanfiction.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:23 PM

We really shouldn't be over exaggerating Hinata's negative traits, all it does is make us hypocrites.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:23 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Apr 5 2013, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that's a very extreme interpretation of Hinata's character.


Of course it is. Hinata doesn`t own a phone. And she would never be able to speak to Naruto 7 times an hour happy.gif

It`s an extremly extreme was of interpreating it but its how i roll. I take a point and I make so rediculus that the point stands out more.

@inferno180 pacing, consistency, logic you know the minor stuff. Nobody cares about those. Its completly ireleavnt to the quality of the story kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

@ branden I know but honesly you know what the NH/SS guys are like. Who are we being the nice shipping for? Them? At the end of the day we are the nice ones, but for what purpose.

Edited by StrikerTheNoble, 05 April 2013 - 10:25 PM.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:27 PM

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Apr 5 2013, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just remember its like this currently:

NaruSaku: Can happen, very developed in the past, most realistic relationship, been dormant for a while but it will come up again. Does no damage to the story, gives Sakura's character good development ending with Naruto by her getting over Sasuke, basically she matures. Keeps Sasuke's character intact as well, his development is not effected at all and he can develop independent of this for things without trouble.

NaruHina: It exists, it can happen, just much smaller and not as developed as NaruHina. Causes some damage to the story, effects Naruto's logic as a character, Sakura becomes a problem for her future/end development, damages the story by just showing all past development of Naruto and Sakura as mere friendship, risks Hinata's role in terms of importance and where she can actually be, she cannot enter any business when it comes to team 7. Would be rushed and very underdeveloped compared to NaruSaku. Its a problem considering this manga is almost entering the ending phase. Causes many issues for it to come canon. Basically it has less meaning than NaruSaku, it does not have as much of a lasting value, and it shakes a few story parts up (like pacing, consistency, logic etc).

SasuSaku: Damages Sasuke and Sakura's characters immensly, puts Sasuke out of character and ruins Sakura's development. Basically it does so much damage to the story it becomes a gloried fanfiction.

To be fair, Hinata doesn't have to be involved in the Team 7 conflict even if she is being developed as Naruto's love interest.


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:30 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 5 2013, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of course it is. Hinata doesn`t own a phone. And she would never be able to speak to Naruto 7 times an hour happy.gif

It`s an extremly extreme was of interpreating it but its how i roll. I take a point and I make so rediculus that the point stands out more.

@ branden I know but honesly you know what the NH/SS guys are like. Who are we being the nice shipping for? Them? At the end of the day we are the nice ones, but for what purpose.

Dignity. I would rather not stoop to that level over something as petty as pairings, and I don't want to associate myself with a group that thinks that kind of behavior is alright. Just because we don't like the same pairing as they do, it doesn't mean we have to make a**es of ourselves. huh.gif

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:32 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Apr 5 2013, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dignity. I would rather not stoop to that level over something as petty as pairings, and I don't want to associate myself with a group that thinks that kind of behavior is alright. Just because we don't like the same pairing as they do, it doesn't mean we have to make a**es of ourselves. huh.gif


Agreed.

All we can do right now is speculate as to who Naruto will choose. We should wait until Kishi reveals more info in the manga about Nauto's feelings sleep.gif

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:35 PM

@HauntedCake
I can't help but see a sexist connotation in your sig fu.png

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:35 PM

Hey Baguette did you reply to that 6 pages guy? If yes, can you repost here?

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:35 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 5 2013, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed.

All we can do right now is speculate as to who Naruto will choose. We should wait until Kishi reveals more info in the manga about Nauto's feelings sleep.gif

Which is why one NS moment can destroy them all.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:37 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 5 2013, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@HauntedCake
I can't help but see a sexist connotation in your sig fu.png

that came directly from Lee's show :/

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:38 PM

QUOTE (Dkey @ Apr 5 2013, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey Baguette did you reply to that 6 pages guy? If yes, can you repost here?

Oh yeah that. I finally finished my reply yesterday and posted it, but then the thread starter accused us both of going off topic and told us to GTFO.
So far he hasn't contacted me yet to finish that debate sad.gif

Anyways, yeah I'll post it. Gimme a sec.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:40 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 5 2013, 11:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@HauntedCake
I can't help but see a sexist connotation in your sig fu.png



QUOTE (Branden @ Apr 5 2013, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that came directly from Lee's show :/


Erm sexist???? Whoa whoa.. wait!! It isn't supposed to show any sexism at all.... dry.gif
Its from the spin off

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:41 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 5 2013, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is no big prize. If there isnt a Naruto x Sakura life manga spinoff than ultimatly its been all for nothing. We will see it end enjoy the way its ended, feel sad and forget about this place. It all kinda depressing when you think about it. I really wish Kishi would make a in the life of Naruto and Sakura romance manga so we can see what happens to these two.

Well he did say that he wanted to write a romance manga after this. Maybe Naruto ends with no pairing, but then he writes his new manga starring all of your favorite Naruto characters and taking place after Naruto ends. Presenting Kishi's newest Romance Manga: MAKE OUT PARADISE!!! th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:51 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 5 2013, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To be fair, Hinata doesn't have to be involved in the Team 7 conflict even if she is being developed as Naruto's love interest.


Yeah but this would in turn interfere with some other stuff, like with Sakura, she can't just go back to Sasuke or go after him now can she? If NaruHina happens, Sakura would basically have to be left independent or kishi could just asspull lee out even though that exists even less than many others, leesaku exists more in the SD spinoffs than the main series. If NaruHina comes along, Sakura still needs to be developed so her time over the journey was not completely worthless.

Hinata can develop but its still not that good this late in the series, I mean over 10 years and now it starts. The manga can only go at most another 2 1/2 to 3 years. Thats not much compared to NaruSaku, Hinata has not done as much as other characters, I mean she has done some stuff but it would seem better if Kishi actually did more, kinda like the extent of Shikamaru or Tsunade. Even in the "Hinata can make a better heroine" well again, he still did nothing with her majorly until 615, that statement from the 2010 interview was after the pain event, even then that statement only meant that he could do more with Hinata due to her background compared to Sakura being normal, but still said that with Sakura she had the potential to be a heroine in a higher degree, most likely achieving this in the end, he even said he would try to get Sakura in a heroine role later on.

If I'm right this was the interview where many fans mistook the statement and claimed Sakura was no longer the heroine and Hinata now was, but Kishi continued in saying that Sakura was able to use her experiences to fully accomplish this role and that he would try to give her a heroine situation from then on, this is what the proper translations meant if I'm correct?

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:52 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Apr 5 2013, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nope, As far as I learned about around, Kizuna should only be merely a collection of famous saying from Naruto manga and there're no opitions written by the manga critic :/ The only interesting thing here is an interview with Kishimoto.

Maybe I'll buy them but I'm not sture to do

So it's basically a sort of picture book of important moments that's made by manga critics, well that's... a little disappointing. You'd expect that being manga critics and all that they would give their own personal intake about said scenes.

I guess there's still that interview with Kishimoto.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:55 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Apr 5 2013, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So it's basically a sort of picture book of important moments that's made by manga critics, well that's... a little disappointing. You'd expect that being manga critics and all that they would give their own personal intake about said scenes.

I guess there's still that interview with Kishimoto.

I second this. I guess we all have to keep using our own speculations. Granted it is just a critic, but you know, it's best to see who's in the right page. Oh well, next volume, we will learn.




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