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#15421 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:58 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 5 2013, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's true.

Sakura seems like she's against the idea of revenge to begin with. I mean I remember her not liking the way Naruto spoke about avenging Jiraiya. Luckily, he did the paragon route. Anyway, I don't think it makes a difference. The point is that because of Itachi's truth, Sasuke chose his path, not being manipulated.



Yep will lead to basically
And that
A proof that he loves her and also does feels sad when she also feels like this, telling the truth about Itachi would lead to nowhere will only make Sakura cry and Naruto wants to avoid that.

"What's Sasuke to you?"
"I...I..."
I think Naruto knew that she was lying on the confession about not loving Sasuke anymore.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 07:12 PM

I don't think it will make any drastic different, just makes it worse. Naruto felt worse when he learned it, so it's best to keep the way it is. What I see from Kishi is testing people without feeling pity. Like how only Sasuke knows about the mental issue. We should not pity even though it's still his fault, so it's a test of just accepting him for whatever action he will do.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 07:19 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 5 2013, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think it will make any drastic different, just makes it worse. Naruto felt worse when he learned it, so it's best to keep the way it is. What I see from Kishi is testing people without feeling pity. Like how only Sasuke knows about the mental issue. We should not pity even though it's still his fault, so it's a test of just accepting him for whatever action he will do.

Naruto felt sad and because of this he let himself get punched by those kumo ninjas and drove him to go to the raikage himself to ask him to remove his order to kill Sasuke just for Sakura, Sai seeing his misery decided to tell Sakura about Naruto's feelings and tell her the truth about Naruto about how the promise and his feelings for her were hurting him a lot, which drove Sakura to make confession and if it fails decided to kill Sasuke to free Naruto from this burden which also drove naruto to make a definitive decision about Sasuke and lifted his burdens.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:10 PM

It was something I didn't understand.

Was hate a catalyst for the sharingan or just the result of those tumors that form inside the brain of the Uchiha.

Heh before replying I wanted to ask you all if part 2 Sakura ever thought of Sasuke or just wanted Sasuke back for Naruto but it seems that those repressed feelings surfaced when she found out about Sasuke and Akatsuki.

Revisiting the team 7 reunion and the following chapters it seemed that Naruto read something into Sasuke yet it isn't clear for me what it was. The EMS?

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:26 PM

I realised something concerning SS. In part 1 Sasuke actually cared a little about Sakura. He was still an ass to her but he cared a bit. I wonder if that`s still the case. (IM refering to when he woke up in the forrest of death when he woke up, or when he asked Naruto to get her avay from Gaara) He cared a little, but its a whole new Sasuke now.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:29 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 5 2013, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I realised something concerning SS. In part 1 Sasuke actually cared a little about Sakura. He was still an ass to her but he cared a bit. I wonder if that`s still the case. (IM refering to when he woke up in the forrest of death when he woke up, or when he asked Naruto to get her avay from Gaara) He cared a little, but its a whole new Sasuke now.


Yeah, Sasuke did show signs of caring. Can this be used to repair SS??? if these caring moments are brough back up??? who knows dry.gif

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:33 PM

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Yeah, Sasuke did show signs of caring. Can this be used to repair SS??? if these caring moments are brough back up??? who knows dry.gif


Thats exactly what I`m worried about. Every asspull needs a straw to grasp and I`m afarid this may be it.

Even so the problem is Sasuke is all talk no work. The 2 times he was nice to her it was verbally. And it didnt make her feel any better. The first time she had to stop him from a killing spree. And the second Naruto ended up doing the work. Of course he followed the first niceness part with a kitten move. The only part that bothered me was, when she grabbed him to stop... Why did he?

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:38 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 5 2013, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thats exactly what I`m worried about. Every asspull needs a straw to grasp and I`m afarid this may be it.

Even so the problem is Sasuke is all talk no work. The 2 times he was nice to her it was verbally. And it didnt make her feel any better. The first time she had to stop him from a killing spree. And the second Naruto ended up doing the work. Of course he followed the first niceness part with a kitten move. The only part that bothered me was, when she grabbed him to stop... Why did he?


Bolded: Yep, This is quite a possibility for SS.

Kishi does a huge asspull and reveals that sasuke actually cared for Sakura during part 1 but buried those feeling because of revenge. The "Thank you" he said to Sakura before he knocked her out will be leverage for this asspull.

A lot of us consider SS dead and buried but i personally don't. I hate SS with passion but kishi hasn't 100% snuffed it out yet. Sasuke's feeling for Sakura at surface value is all we have said it is, that he doesn't give a kitten about her and would kill her in a heartbeat. But we are yet to know what he feels under the bonet.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:41 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 5 2013, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bolded: Yep, This is quite a possibility for SS.

Kishi does a huge asspull and reveals that sasuke actually cared for Sakura during part 1 but buried those feeling because of revenge. The "Thank you" he said to Sakura before he knocked her out will be leverage for this asspull.

A lot of us consider SS dead and buried but i personally don't. I hate SS with passion but kishi hasn't 100% snuffed it out yet. Sasuke's feeling for Sakura at surface value is all we have said it is, that he doesn't give a kitten about her and would kill her in a heartbeat. But we are yet to know what he feels under the bonet.


The question is: Is Sasuke even capable of romantic love anymore? I`m not sure. He was barely able to feel friendship the last time we saw him. So is it actually possible for him to love anyone. And wouldn`t Karin be a better choice for him?

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:41 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 5 2013, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, Sasuke did show signs of caring. Can this be used to repair SS??? if these caring moments are brough back up??? who knows dry.gif

The problem is there's no follow-up. Sasuke has acknowledged her as a member of Team 7, which he cares. Sakura already admitted that her relationship was pretty much non-existence, just the fact she's in the team is what made him care. Yes, she does respect her, but Sasuke already said that Naruto is the one friend that he feels like he can considered "close". That said I think we are being mislead that SS is alive and has a chance while in reality, it's only her feelings that need to disappear once and for all, because it was hidden until the last arc happened.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:53 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 5 2013, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, Sasuke did show signs of caring. Can this be used to repair SS??? if these caring moments are brough back up??? who knows dry.gif

Unfortunatly he will have to go for the asspull route because the bond Sasuke > Sakura wasnt even developed as Sasuke > Naruto.
Sakura is way behind Naruto, Sasuke only connects to Naruto when it comes to friends and stuff.
Even showing a little care for Sakura because she was his teammate wasnt close to Naruto.

Take per example Gaara, Sasuke told Naruto to grab Sakura and leave but his "feelings" for Sakura wasnt even close to Naruto's feelings for her which gives to Naruto the classic hero power-up.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:53 PM

And so? Sasuke cared for Sakura since she was part of team 7, a family who has placed his real family in his heart. I saw no romantic hints in the forest o when he was trying to save here from evil Gaara. Sasuke cared for Sakura as comrade. Don't bother about that...

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:55 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 5 2013, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The problem is there's no follow-up. Sasuke has acknowledged her as a member of Team 7, which he cares. Sakura already admitted that her relationship was pretty much non-existence, just the fact she's in the team is what made him care. Yes, she does respect her, but Sasuke already said that Naruto is the one friend that he feels like he can considered "close". That said I think we are being mislead that SS is alive and has a chance while in reality, it's only her feelings that need to disappear once and for all, because it was hidden until the last arc happened.



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Just going back to simple law: SasuSaku cant be cannon because Sasuke is an international crimial who is wanted by everyone. Good luck getting someone to perform that marriage. Honestly thinking back Sasuke is not the same guy he was in part 1. And if he had ANY emotions for Sakura he wouldn`t have the heart to kill her. But he tried twice so...

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:56 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 5 2013, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The question is: Is Sasuke even capable of romantic love anymore? I`m not sure. He was barely able to feel friendship the last time we saw him. So is it actually possible for him to love anyone. And wouldn`t Karin be a better choice for him?


Bolded: Of course he is!!!!! pictureem0.gif

SS fanbase has Naruto as their Number 1 supporter. It's simple:

Naruto invents the Rasen Talk no jutsu shruiken, and uses this to fill Sasuke's heart with love.

Then kishi follows this up with a well written asspull. Hey presto - SS is canon pictureem0.gif

Sakura- "SASUKE-KUN!!!!!!!! BABIEZ PLZZ" love.gif love.gif

Sasuke -"SAKURAAA - CHANN!!!! I LOVE YOU NOW BECAUSE NARUTO TALK NO JUTSU ME TO DEATH!!!" love.gif love.gif

Sakura - "YAY SASUKE KUN!!!" love.gif love.gif

Kishimoto colliding with logic!! kruemelmonsteryn0.gif pictureem0.gif


But on a serious note: Naruto is SS's biggest fan and seems to support the most. He will try get Sasuke to see Sakura's feeling for him and that might affect Sasuke. I dunno overthinking things

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:58 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 5 2013, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bolded: Of course he is!!!!! pictureem0.gif

SS fanbase has Naruto as their Number 1 supporter. It's simple:

Naruto invents the Rasen Talk no jutsu shruiken, and uses this to fill Sasuke's heart with love.

Then kishi follows this up with a well written asspull. Hey presto - SS is canon pictureem0.gif

Sakura- "SASUKE-KUN!!!!!!!! BABIEZ PLZZ" love.gif love.gif

Sasuke -"SAKURAAA - CHANN!!!! I LOVE YOU NOW BECAUSE NARUTO TALK NO JUTSU ME TO DEATH!!!" love.gif love.gif

Sakura - "YAY SASUKE KUN!!!" love.gif love.gif

Kishimoto colliding with logic!! kruemelmonsteryn0.gif pictureem0.gif


But on a serious note: Naruto is SS's biggest fan and seems to support the most. He will try get Sasuke to see Sakura's feeling for him and that might affect Sasuke. I dunno overthinking things


i dont think naruto would dig his own grave. He went this far for her to have a chance with Sasuke, not to get them together.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:02 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 5 2013, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i dont think naruto would dig his own grave. He went this far for her to have a chance with Sasuke, not to get them together.


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:07 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 5 2013, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Sorry i'm really in a giddy mood and i have sugar rush atm. Trolling for no reason sweatdrop.gif


It`s ok. What I ment is that he promised to bring him back for her to be happy. But she could still choose between them. But he would not go to the extreme of grabing Sasuke by the kitten and forcing him to love Sakura (extreme case but you get my point).

Basicly what hes doing is: I will give you every chance you need with Sasuke, but the rest is up to you.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:07 PM

Does anyone have some news about the Kizuna books and the "love" chapter ? I really want to know what they're saying about NaruSaku and Naruto's love.


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:10 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Apr 5 2013, 04:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And so? Sasuke cared for Sakura since she was part of team 7, a family who has placed his real family in his heart. I saw no romantic hints in the forest o when he was trying to save here from evil Gaara. Sasuke cared for Sakura as comrade. Don't bother about that...

Thank you. Gaara part could have been it. But nope. Instead, he said both Naruto and Sakura to run away. When Naruto steps in, it's all about Sakura. Big difference.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:12 PM

QUOTE (Sojobo @ Apr 5 2013, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does anyone have some news about the Kizuna books and the "love" chapter ? I really want to know what they're saying about NaruSaku and Naruto's love.


Nope, As far as I learned about around, Kizuna should only be merely a collection of famous saying from Naruto manga and there're no opitions written by the manga critic :/ The only interesting thing here is an interview with Kishimoto.

Maybe I'll buy them but I'm not sture to do

Edited by 六道仙人, 05 April 2013 - 09:13 PM.

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