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[DrK]

She looks like a hooker. It's 100% inappropriate for a KID.

Of course Sakura bought those clothes. Single mom.

[Yyubie]

Just checked tumblr , a lot of people there seems to be on hype and said that boruto and salad kiss .... but there's no image or screenshot. Why are people suddenly hype over something that still not happen or is it ?? the amount of cross tagging pro ending is crazy , have to put a lot of those into block list.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

Of course Sakura bought those clothes. Single mom.

This is actually endemic of girls raised without fathers, along with promiscuity, teen pregnancy, substance abuse and tendencies to be involved in ABUSIVE relationships.

[RulesofNature]

Every female in boruto manga to me looks like whores. Kishi wants yaoi and now ikemoto wants yuri ....

And what an irony i just finish watching Mobile Suit Gundam Destiny+Seed .... after watching that , once Naruto felt like the best magna in the world to me , and now it feels like garbage. Nothing can beat Kira x Lacus , if only Kishi has the balls and Yahagi not left him .....

 

Okay, I'm not a fan of Kira and Lacus. To me they're some of the worst wish-fulfillment characters in all of anime. I've actually talked to Japanese fans that have said as much about Kira. That's just my opinion though.

 

But here's what I want to get at. Even in Japan, where they're supposed to be beloved, they're controversial figures (Destiny is nowhere near as loved as SEED by the Japanese fanbase) and Sunrise/Bandai are not afraid to call them out. I've seen it, like in Super Robot Wars Z where their actions during Destiny (prior to the reveal Durandal is the baddie) is treated with more maturity, it got to the point where the leads of almost ever other show present in the game wanted to shoot them down (even after the reveal). They was presented as very flawed characters and Banpresto gave him character growth, and without this growth no one would have wanted to work with them (this version of the story tends to be more popular in Japan as well). SRW doesn't even hate Kira, they just either want to rewrite Destiny or flat-out ignore it if they can. Dynasty Warriors Gundam actually has called them out on being hypocrites in the past, and there's even a Destiny manga where Kira gets chewed out by Murrue of all people. And if you know all the details of these things it starts looking like Gundam 00 was meant to address their behavior by proxy.

 

(also, I've seen one poll of the top 10 anime couples people think should break up. Kira and Lacus were on it along with Hinata and Naruto).

 

These are some of the BIGGEST anime characters around. Kira and Lacus both have those Figure-Rise busts for 1/100 scale model kits. There's a freaking 1/1 scale Strike Freedom Bust at Gundam Base in Tokyo. Think about this, the people who own Gundam are willing to call these same characters out. That takes real balls.

 

Meanwhile, SP and Kishi have unintentionally presented Naruto as an extremely unlikable character. Instead of owning up to it, instead they keep changing things. "Look, Naruto does send shadow clones to be with his kids. He isn't a bad father guys" and now they're trying to set up BS by paralleling it to NS. They know they've kittened up and they're haphazardly trying to fix it without acknowledging the problems at all. Hell, they're undermining Boruto as a protagonist through all this by taking any real grievances he once had and trampling over them.

[Kagomaru]

 

GOOD.

 

 

 

EXACTLY.

I'm gonna enjoy watching the spectacle of the NH and SS fanbases (and their offshoots) tear into one another over this shipping war, with SP and Ikemoto scrambling desperately to appease both sides of the pond.   Congratulations Hinata Otakus,  you just inflamed the ugliest pairing war in a fandom and you're caught right in the middle of it.

Edited by Kagomaru, 21 December 2017 - 11:12 PM.

[Yyubie]

 

Okay, I'm not a fan of Kira and Lacus. To me they're some of the worst wish-fulfillment characters in all of anime. I've actually talked to Japanese fans that have said as much about Kira. That's just my opinion though.

 

But here's what I want to get at. Even in Japan, where they're supposed to be beloved, they're controversial figures (Destiny is nowhere near as loved as SEED by the Japanese fanbase) and Sunrise/Bandai are not afraid to call them out. I've seen it, like in Super Robot Wars Z where their actions during Destiny (prior to the reveal Durandal is the baddie) is treated with more maturity, it got to the point where the leads of almost ever other show present in the game wanted to shoot them down (even after the reveal). They was presented as very flawed characters and Banpresto gave him character growth, and without this growth no one would have wanted to work with them (this version of the story tends to be more popular in Japan as well). SRW doesn't even hate Kira, they just either want to rewrite Destiny or flat-out ignore it if they can. Dynasty Warriors Gundam actually has called them out on being hypocrites in the past, and there's even a Destiny manga where Kira gets chewed out by Murrue of all people. And if you know all the details of these things it starts looking like Gundam 00 was meant to address their behavior by proxy.

 

(also, I've seen one poll of the top 10 anime couples people think should break up. Kira and Lacus were on it along with Hinata and Naruto).

 

These are some of the BIGGEST anime characters around. Kira and Lacus both have those Figure-Rise busts for 1/100 scale model kits. There's a freaking 1/1 scale Strike Freedom Bust at Gundam Base in Tokyo. Think about this, the people who own Gundam are willing to call these same characters out. That takes real balls.

 

Meanwhile, SP and Kishi have unintentionally presented Naruto as an extremely unlikable character. Instead of owning up to it, instead they keep changing things. "Look, Naruto does send shadow clones to be with his kids. He isn't a bad father guys" and now they're trying to set up BS by paralleling it to NS. They know they've kittened up and they're haphazardly trying to fix it without acknowledging the problems at all. Hell, they're undermining Boruto as a protagonist through all this by taking any real grievances he once had and trampling over them.

Hmm ... i don't really understand maybe because i'm still young in the anime/manga world , i personally don't see anything wrong. I notice both season also getting a remaster , i mean they are 100 episode , unlike games , correct me if i'm wrong but i rarely see old anime getting this treatment , as far as i know only dragon ball z getting remaster as dragon ball z kai. So i have to disagree with the hate you mention , if it's really hated by the fans why bother remastering it?. DB Kai is clear why they stop after cell saga and not remaster the Buu Saga because it's low sale and popularity , therefore is waste of money.. But even if it's true i don't follow reviews or other fans , i just search for romance anime and i got recommended to this so i'm gonna watch it anyway regardless of what other people said. But i totally understand your point.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

Sailor moon got remastered, in manga form first and then got a series reboot. The first seasomnwas tough due to poor animation and kitten henshin done in CGI.

[RulesofNature]

Hmm ... i don't really understand maybe because i'm still young in the anime/manga world , i personally don't see anything wrong. I notice both season also getting a remaster , i mean they are 100 episode , unlike games , correct me if i'm wrong but i rarely see old anime getting this treatment , as far as i know only dragon ball z getting remaster as dragon ball z kai. So i have to disagree with the hate you mention , if it's really hated by the fans why bother remastering it?. DB Kai is clear why they stop after cell saga and not remaster the Buu Saga because it's low sale and popularity , therefore is waste of money.. But even if it's true i don't follow reviews or other fans , i just search for romance anime and i got recommended to this so i'm gonna watch it anyway regardless of what other people said. But i totally understand your point.

 

SEED and SEED Destiny were early digital animation, and you can't remaster early digital like you can hand-drawn animation where you transfer to a higher quality film print (this allows smaller details to be seen, kinda like going from VHS quality to bluray). The original animation wouldn't have looked good in HD (they didn't start putting shows out in HD until 00) and is riddled with animation errors. They wanted to sell SEED on bluray so they ended up having to reanimate a lot of the show.

 

SEED is still popular with more casual audiences (according to those I've talked to from Japan, mostly fujoshi and small children) though this applies less to Destiny. The image I've gotten from the Japanese Gundam fanbase though is the first series is an alright show on it's own, though under the surface it's not a good fit for the rest of the franchise. As to why, I'll leave that for another time.

 

If you want a better romance out of Gundam, I'd recommend checking out X. The bond between Garrod and Tiffa will pull at your heartstrings. The ending song, Human Touch, you could play that at a wedding and no one would blink an eye.

 

Edited by RulesofNature, 21 December 2017 - 11:17 PM.

[Yyubie]

So this is what they think boruto and salad kiss

No wonder pro ending (mostly borusara fan) are on climax right now , especially during this time they take it as a christmast and happy new year present.

 

 

SEED and SEED Destiny were early digital animation, and you can't remaster early digital like you can hand-drawn animation where you transfer to a higher quality film print (this allows smaller details to be seen, kinda like going from VHS quality to bluray). The original animation wouldn't have looked good in HD (they didn't start putting shows out in HD until 00) and is riddled with animation errors. They wanted to sell SEED on bluray so they ended up having to reanimate a lot of the show.

 

SEED is still popular with more casual audiences (according to those I've talked to from Japan, mostly fujoshi and small children) though this applies less to Destiny. The image I've gotten from the Japanese Gundam fanbase though is the first series is an alright show on it's own, though under the surface it's not a good fit for the rest of the franchise. As to why, I'll leave that for another time.

 

If you want a better romance out of Gundam, I'd recommend checking out X. The bond between Garrod and Tiffa will pull at your heartstrings. The ending song, Human Touch, you could play that at a wedding and no one would blink an eye.

 

Yeah you right i was wrong , seed+destiny is garbage , sorry.

[rocci]

Why can they show narusasu kiss, but not bs?
Does this mean bs is doom like narusasu or is this show that narusasu should be the end pairing? Thus having the first gay couple in shonen mainstream.

Does sumire like salad?

Personally I don't think salad could ever become female sasuke nor did she will ever be burito rival like sasuke.

[TheFirstEvil100]

 

Okay, I'm not a fan of Kira and Lacus. To me they're some of the worst wish-fulfillment characters in all of anime. I've actually talked to Japanese fans that have said as much about Kira. That's just my opinion though.

 

But here's what I want to get at. Even in Japan, where they're supposed to be beloved, they're controversial figures (Destiny is nowhere near as loved as SEED by the Japanese fanbase) and Sunrise/Bandai are not afraid to call them out. I've seen it, like in Super Robot Wars Z where their actions during Destiny (prior to the reveal Durandal is the baddie) is treated with more maturity, it got to the point where the leads of almost ever other show present in the game wanted to shoot them down (even after the reveal). They was presented as very flawed characters and Banpresto gave him character growth, and without this growth no one would have wanted to work with them (this version of the story tends to be more popular in Japan as well). SRW doesn't even hate Kira, they just either want to rewrite Destiny or flat-out ignore it if they can. Dynasty Warriors Gundam actually has called them out on being hypocrites in the past, and there's even a Destiny manga where Kira gets chewed out by Murrue of all people. And if you know all the details of these things it starts looking like Gundam 00 was meant to address their behavior by proxy.

 

(also, I've seen one poll of the top 10 anime couples people think should break up. Kira and Lacus were on it along with Hinata and Naruto).

 

These are some of the BIGGEST anime characters around. Kira and Lacus both have those Figure-Rise busts for 1/100 scale model kits. There's a freaking 1/1 scale Strike Freedom Bust at Gundam Base in Tokyo. Think about this, the people who own Gundam are willing to call these same characters out. That takes real balls.

 

Meanwhile, SP and Kishi have unintentionally presented Naruto as an extremely unlikable character. Instead of owning up to it, instead they keep changing things. "Look, Naruto does send shadow clones to be with his kids. He isn't a bad father guys" and now they're trying to set up BS by paralleling it to NS. They know they've kittened up and they're haphazardly trying to fix it without acknowledging the problems at all. Hell, they're undermining Boruto as a protagonist through all this by taking any real grievances he once had and trampling over them.

And its why I like Kira and Flay as a couple more, yet people hate Flay cause of a few mistakes that she made as she was at least 14/15 years old when she did the things to Kira and she has PTSD as well after seeing her father die which can kitten you up in a big way. True Kira/Flay has some flaws but still makes more sense then Kira and Lacus, now I used to hate Lacus but I have grown to like her a lot more thanks to Hinata.

 

Yeah I also hate Gundam SEED Destiny which is just bad and I do mean bad in so many ways as the kittened over so much I mean look what they did to Cagalli. From what little I have heard the creators wife may of had a hand in that as she wanted Lacus to show up more or something like that, but not so sure I know the creator of Seed hated the USA.

 

But I still watch just seed even I don't count all of SEED Destiny, but my friends I know have do fanfiction stories.

 

However with Kishi and SP they can't admit they made a Mistake well mainly Kishi cause SP a lot of them are just happy that Hinata has what she wants why would they care if they make Naruto look like a women using kitten they just want to show more of Hinat while giving Kishi the middle finger for not showing just how great the goddess Hinata is.

[Gravenimage]

And its why I like Kira and Flay as a couple more, yet people hate Flay cause of a few mistakes that she made as she was at least 14/15 years old when she did the things to Kira and she has PTSD as well after seeing her father die which can kitten you up in a big way. True Kira/Flay has some flaws but still makes more sense then Kira and Lacus, now I used to hate Lacus but I have grown to like her a lot more thanks to Hinata.

 

Yeah I also hate Gundam SEED Destiny which is just bad and I do mean bad in so many ways as the kittened over so much I mean look what they did to Cagalli. From what little I have heard the creators wife may of had a hand in that as she wanted Lacus to show up more or something like that, but not so sure I know the creator of Seed hated the USA.

 

But I still watch just seed even I don't count all of SEED Destiny, but my friends I know have do fanfiction stories.

 

However with Kishi and SP they can't admit they made a Mistake well mainly Kishi cause SP a lot of them are just happy that Hinata has what she wants why would they care if they make Naruto look like a women using kitten they just want to show more of Hinat while giving Kishi the middle finger for not showing just how great the goddess Hinata is.

 

I didn't like Destiny either because they destroyed one of my fav couples of the series and that was Athrun/Cagalli. At the beginning Athrun proposed to her . Even Kira supported the pairing that he kidnapped Cagalli on his Gundam on a wedding from marrying some rich douchebag (don't remember his name) and by the end of the series Cagalli let him go to be with Lunamaria's younger sister. Seriously?

 

Just what the hell were they thinking?  It feels like something the producers will pull out of their asses. They never gave any explanations to why she lit him go. I doubt she stopped loving him, she was head over heels for him. They did the same thing with Shin who fell for Estella, then she dies and like two episodes later he kissed Lunamaria just like that seriously WTF?!

Edited by Gravenimage, 22 December 2017 - 02:09 AM.

[DeathGodMack]

Athrun is still with Cagali as far as we know because he has the orb rank of Admiral during the ending.

Edited by DeathGodMack, 22 December 2017 - 06:34 AM.

[Gravenimage]

Athrun is still with Cagali as far as we know because he has the orb rank of Admiral during the ending.

 

I don't know they made it look as she handed him over to Lunamaria's sister.

[James S Cassidy]

The sad thing is I can't even say that I'm surprised about this after everything they've done .

 

Its true that the standard Kunoichi were trained to used their sexuality in order to infiltrate and manipulate but this was never the case in Naruto they were never depicted like that not to mention its still a story for KIDS JFC!!! Just compare it to P1  there was none of this sexualizing kitten with the 12 year old female genins it only become a trend for them bc SP and the fanbase over sexualized Hinata in P2 and especially with The Last Retcon it was all for fanservice!. This franchise is so rotten I can't even begin to explain it!!!  . 

Aimed towards kids 13-17 year olds....read by 30-40 year olds.

[winter-serenade]

Isn't Kishimoto going to say anything about this? It's HIS creation, and he never sexualized kids like this. I heard things like that made him uncomfortable. This is kittening sad...

[Gravenimage]

Isn't Kishimoto going to say anything about this? It's HIS creation, and he never sexualized kids like this. I heard things like that made him uncomfortable. This is kittening sad...

 

It's too late now. If Kishi didn't had the balls to be his own boss and not listen to everything his editors, Pierot or the fans say. Then he doesn't have the balls either to stop Pierot from destroying what's left of what was once an amazing series. 

[FireFox]

Aimed towards kids 13-17 year olds....read by 30-40 year olds.

Its a fuked up situation what can I say. I even heard that they draw The Salad exposing her panties don't know how much true that is, but if it is its disgusting and this kitten needs to burn and rot in hell.     

Isn't Kishimoto going to say anything about this? It's HIS creation, and he never sexualized kids like this. I heard things like that made him uncomfortable. This is kittening sad...

If he cared he wouldn't have ended the manga the way he did and insult the readers with his interviews, he obviously doesn't care he only cares from where the money flows he made that clear himself. Also Kishimoto said a lot of things in the past only to debunk them later, I don't believe anything this man says or does anymore he's a lying hypocritical SOB.  

[James S Cassidy]

Isn't Kishimoto going to say anything about this? It's HIS creation, and he never sexualized kids like this. I heard things like that made him uncomfortable. This is kittening sad...

He stopped caring about Naruto and the franchise a long time ago. He pratically gave up any diction to the story since the 4th Shinobi War arc and pretty much everyone else dictated what to write and draw. He didn't care. He just wanted to do the Sasuke vs Naruto fight, get off the Naruto franchise, and start again. The fact that even had him as a "consultant" for the Boruto series is telling that he wanted to have nothing to do with it.

[Azor Ahai]

I'm gonna enjoy watching the spectacle of the NH and SS fanbases (and their offshoots) tear into one another over this shipping war, with SP and Ikemoto scrambling desperately to appease both sides of the pond.   Congratulations Hinata Otakus,  you just inflamed the ugliest pairing war in a fandom and you're caught right in the middle of it.

 

At times like this I am reminded on one of my favorite verses.

 

"Whoever sheds man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed. For in the image of God who made man."

 

Edit:

 

Also, about the oversexualized cover...yeah no good, considering that recently a famous manga maker was arrested for owning child pornographic material. Yeah...there is a very dark stigma that could come from this, it wouldn't surprise me if that same case becomes true for the mangaka of Boruto.

Edited by Azor Ahai, 22 December 2017 - 08:40 PM.