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[NarutoUzumaki01]

You mean Ban from NnT?

Yeah.

[DeathGodMack]

This thread is soo off-topic now.

[LuckyChi7]

I think it was because Mike and Brian knew how to end a series. 

 

True which is why I have more respect for them, although when it comes to Makorra fans well... that's another issue.

 

 

Well that's because Zutara fans kind of already knew that Zutara was never going to happen. Now Makorra fans....

 

True, and I mean when it comes to Makorra that's something else.. I mean I've kept track with Legend of Korra since the day they announced it in 2012 and I remember it was only scheduled for 1 season, but then once Nick saw how much money Korra was making that's when they greenlit Books 2, 3, and 4. Now I'll admit Korra is no Avatar, it was still a great series. However Mike and Bryan didn't have the same result as Avatar did because they had 3 seasons planned for Avatar start to finish. And Korra it was like okay 1 season oh wait it's doing so well here now we'll give you 3 more seasons to produce.  See what would've been interesting is if Nick made the smart decision just went with okay based on how good Avatar did we'll give you 3 seasons just like with the previous series. I mean imagine how things would be, I believe Amon would've played the main antagonist of the whole series like Ozai was from the last airbender instead of for just season 1.  

 

The difference between NS and Zutara, was that it was clear that Katara would get with Aang, just like how Naruto should have gotten with Sakura. They didn't have victory snatched away, due to a weak willed writer.

 

I completely agree with you when it comes to that, and yes Kishi should've took the initiative and said Hey this is my series I decide what happens not you! I mean seriously Kishi take pride in your own work I mean look at Oda and One Piece, the damn series is gonna go on for another 10 years which is still crazy to think about, but the man's got pride and has passion for his series similar to Ishida with Tokyo Ghoul ( I mean come on I still remember when he kittened at SP for how they handled season 1 that was just pure hillarious  ) and Hiro Mashima with Fairy Tail. It's so funny when you look at this series when Kishi first made it and where he's gone by the end of the series I mean really it's sad to see a Once amazing series like Naruto (in Part 1 and First 1/2 of Part 2) stoop this low.

 

I have a question for those of you that watched the movie.

How the kitten do they get to the moon?

 

The power of asspull! That's all I gotta say about that one. 

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

It was a long time ago, but I do remember that like maybe 1/2 of the Zutara fans were okay with the how Avatar ended. 

 

That's what I remember too. Some were upset, but in the long run, some were OK since it was handled much better than how things are in Naruto.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Anything new?

[Pix]

 

True which is why I have more respect for them, although when it comes to Makorra fans well... that's another issue.

 

 

 

True, and I mean when it comes to Makorra that's something else.. I mean I've kept track with Legend of Korra since the day they announced it in 2012 and I remember it was only scheduled for 1 season, but then once Nick saw how much money Korra was making that's when they greenlit Books 2, 3, and 4. Now I'll admit Korra is no Avatar, it was still a great series. However Mike and Bryan didn't have the same result as Avatar did because they had 3 seasons planned for Avatar start to finish. And Korra it was like okay 1 season oh wait it's doing so well here now we'll give you 3 more seasons to produce.  See what would've been interesting is if Nick made the smart decision just went with okay based on how good Avatar did we'll give you 3 seasons just like with the previous series. I mean imagine how things would be, I believe Amon would've played the main antagonist of the whole series like Ozai was from the last airbender instead of for just season 1.  

 

In my opinion LoK was such a failure but people are way too blind to see it. ATLA was a masterpiece but LoK failed to deliver after Season 1. A majority of the writing in LoK did not correlate with each other, and a lot of stuff was thrown in there just to appease fans (sort of like Naruto but not to that extent). It's kind of sad how the entire LoK fandom completely shrugs off the critics of this series just for the sake of their own hype. Whenever people have serious issues with the story line they're so quick to defend it blindly.  

 

I feel like Korrasami was such wasted potential. It could have been perfect if not for the terrible characterization of both Asami and Mako. But people refuse to address this because of the hivemind-like actions their fandom portrays. 

Edited by Pix, 10 February 2015 - 08:35 AM.

[FireFox]

Hey hey hey!

 

Don't wipe your ass with Kishi's interviews. Those were more entertaining than the war arc. Not to mention they exposed him to be the sexist bastard, that sold out to SP, in the end.

But I'm running out of material  As you can see I've already used all the manga and 700 is next in the line , but maybe I should substitute the Interviews with the Novels  the content is much better for wiping my ass of . 

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 10 February 2015 - 08:52 AM.

[Advaith]

Before this kitten ended there were two profiles of kikitten in facebook and one of them had the most popular pairing polls to vote,people including myself thought that those were fake profiles by fans coz of the reasons and pairing polls,i mean who would do that,but it seems those were real if not controlled by trollmoto then by his assistants or staff related coz entirely the things in those were for finding out public reception/popularity.

Edited by Advaith, 10 February 2015 - 09:01 AM.

[Chatte]

Before this kitten ended there were two profiles of kikitten in facebook and one of them had the most popular pairing polls to vote,people including myself thought that those were fake profiles by fans coz of the reasons and pairing polls,i mean who would do that,but it seems those were real if not controlled by trollmoto then by his assistants or staff related coz entirely the things in those were for finding out public reception/popularity.

It wasn't them, it was fan made but it does help, you know?

In the end it doesn't matter. You tell YOUR story and period. But meh..

[Advaith]

It wasn't them, it was fan made but it does help, you know?

In the end it doesn't matter. You tell YOUR story and period. But meh..

As i said i also thought it was fan made but either way it does help.Doesn't matter in the end,it was his decision and he sold out.

[Chatte]

As i said i also thought it was fan made but either way it does help.Doesn't matter in the end,it was his decision and he sold out.

Yeah... oh well, kitten happens.. :(

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yea I think they just wanted to hit a milestone
Funny, because they could have easily reached 2 billion if the movie was about Team 7 or SNS  
How long is parasyte going to be in theaters?

Perhaps so.

It's at the 12th week now. It's not taken out yet. It has been getting 200 million yen for past two weeks, so hopefully they can make it.

Oh wow. DBZ movie is up against Conan? That's box office duel right there.

[Narufan85]

The thing about NH and SS that makes it different from stuff like H/Hr vs H/R is that the Naruto pairings required massive retcons and changes to character personalities. The latter would not.

[AzureWaters]

I have to disagree about Kishimoto "selling out."

How I see it, is that he simply made a horrible decision when it came to pairings at the end. What he planned to do (from his own mouth) was to make NH canon with little explaination and certainly wasn't motivated to make a movie about it. SP suggested a romantic film, but I'm sure it was Kishi who confirmed to them that Naruto would not be getting with Sakura, and instead Hinata.

My main reason for thinking this is that Studio Pierrot, before The Last, were undeniably geared towards NaruSaku. Most of the pairing fillers were for this ship, and any extra material such as OVAs and OP/EDs were more NS orientated as well. They did not care much for NH, and they certainly had a dislike for SasuSaku. So why would they compell Kishimoto to make it happen? Meanwhile Kishi himself was known for trolling every pairing under the sun since Kage Summit. He was not as straightforward as you say he was. Even pre 693, what happened? After the CPR scene, there was 685 and the damn cowboy color spread. Before that there was 469, and more trolling. I see this as SP having to go with NH because that was what was decided, but if they had a choice it wouldn't be NaruHina and SasuSaku that won at the end. That blame is on the author.

[TouKen4Life3g]

You're suggesting SP is innocent?

[AzureWaters]

I think they were forced to promote NH because it was end-game, but I believe that if they had a choice it would be NaruSaku as the end pairing. I blame Kishimoto entirely for how it all turned out. So I do disagree with the rest here who are putting all the blame on the company as if they manipulated Kishi into choosing the pairings that he chose. It doesn't add up to how they were before-hand, which was preferring NS.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I think they were forced to promote NH because it was end-game, but I believe that if they had a choice it would be NaruSaku as the end pairing. I blame Kishimoto entirely for how it all turned out. So I do disagree with the rest here who are putting all the blame on the company as if they manipulated Kishi into choosing the pairings that he chose. It doesn't add up to how they were before-hand, which was preferring NS.

Trust me, I have this back and forth feeling with SP, though they still have faults with their work. You know, animation and all that. I'll say percent of fault is all equal.

[Advaith]

I think they were forced to promote NH because it was end-game, but I believe that if they had a choice it would be NaruSaku as the end pairing. I blame Kishimoto entirely for how it all turned out. So I do disagree with the rest here who are putting all the blame on the company as if they manipulated Kishi into choosing the pairings that he chose. It doesn't add up to how they were before-hand, which was preferring NS.

Kishi is the one responsible for all of this even when he sold out because it is his final word that decides things.Whether SP forced him or not does not come under them being responsible,it is kishi's doing as only he can say the final word forced or not.So for me the fault is first kishi's and second is SP.

 

And don't make me start on SP,at the least bit this movie had to take several months to create and when did the last hardcore ns filler come,a month or so before this ending,what did they think they were doing while finishing a nh project at hand and creating a touching ns filler at the same time nearing the end.They were clearly playing with us,not wanting to loose audience and make NS fans in japan buy tickets.

 

As for ur other post,what u wrote is entirely based on what that man said,u know he said other jack kitten contradicting everything he said in the past and even the present,his interviews after the ending was sensless kittenfest.Did u read what he said ? and u are basing an analysis of one of those comments he starting saying after the ending which again in the next interview contradicted himself with another. 

 

But i agree with one thing,the first and only blame is kishi only after him comes SP.I do not blame SP along with kishi in the first place becoz this is not their work,it is kishi's,no matter what he is the author,he allowed them sellout or not.

Edited by Advaith, 10 February 2015 - 12:17 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

That's a good point. That's what ladygt has been saying. Whoever fault is, all we know is that Kishi is to be blame first and foremost, because he allowed it to happen. Look, if the story was good, if the interactions were in fair battle like I can buy into NH well enough that I would say, "My pairing lost but at least the story was really well down and I don't mind at all." I can't even say it with a joke face.

[Nar123]

I have to disagree about Kishimoto "selling out."

How I see it, is that he simply made a horrible decision when it came to pairings at the end. What he planned to do (from his own mouth) was to make NH canon with little explaination and certainly wasn't motivated to make a movie about it. SP suggested a romantic film, but I'm sure it was Kishi who confirmed to them that Naruto would not be getting with Sakura, and instead Hinata.

My main reason for thinking this is that Studio Pierrot, before The Last, were undeniably geared towards NaruSaku. Most of the pairing fillers were for this ship, and any extra material such as OVAs and OP/EDs were more NS orientated as well. They did not care much for NH, and they certainly had a dislike for SasuSaku. So why would they compell Kishimoto to make it happen? Meanwhile Kishi himself was known for trolling every pairing under the sun since Kage Summit. He was not as straightforward as you say he was. Even pre 693, what happened? After the CPR scene, there was 685 and the damn cowboy color spread. Before that there was 469, and more trolling. I see this as SP having to go with NH because that was what was decided, but if they had a choice it wouldn't be NaruHina and SasuSaku that won at the end. That blame is on the author.

 

I kinda agree with you, though its known that some heads in SP worship Hinata, And the last was their idea in the end. So I guess that even if Kishi choose the end pairings and how things were going to pan out, SP has part of the blame for making such a horrible biased job with the movie that ended up hurting the ending even more