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#1521 Atheck

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 04:36 AM

While Karin plotting that would be brilliant and I would love to see it, I have significant doubts and a reinforced belief in Kishi's inability to write female characters.

Pretend Naruto into a girl for a moment and look at all she would have ben through and how she overcame it. Now look at the other female characters in the series and consider how poorly constructed and how ignored they have been they are compaired to Naruto or Bee or Sasuke or...pretty much any other male who had the limelight for a decent amount of time.

He sucks at it. Badly.

To add, the Naruto fanbase is pretty sexist in and of itself but that is a topic for another day... :argh:

 

I agree. One of the few possible exceptions to this flaw in Kishi's writing is Temari IMO. She's a strong-willed individual with no inherent vices to her character. She speaks what is on her mind and she isn't relegated to any specific role. If a male character like Shikamaru makes a suggestive comment to her then she properly retorts against it which tends to quiet them. Also she is one of the most powerful Futon users in the manga so that should count for something, I suppose.


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 04:37 AM

Yeah everyone would know that Sasuke was in Konoha if they saw Karin. Though is that the reason she's not there?

Hm. Good point. Huh. Nah. I thought of something but I should wait until next chapter. Well I wonder what's the effect if Karin leans on Sasuke is what I thought earlier. Some suggested the movie moment could happen but who knows.

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 04:49 AM

Some people think Sakura and Karin will fight over Sasuke.

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 04:50 AM

Some people think Sakura and Karin will fight over Sasuke.

No... just no...

 

If that happens than I am afraid Sakura will never live down bashing from anyone, also all of her development would be for nothing.



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 04:58 AM

But thats somehow not really possible. He cant be dead serious about her beeing his girlfriend and at the same time know that she not right now. I think hes serious about meaning that hes doenst know whats really going on between them right now but the sentence he said cant be really taken serious, because if we take his words literally they mean that shes his girlfriend right now, but she isnt.

I think maybe you're reading it too literally, and not giving the "more or less" part enough weight.

The question was, is Sakura his girlfriend. Naruto's answer tells us that as far as his feelings are concerned, and based on where things were left after her confession, he's thinking she might be. Sort of.

And that's the thing. At this point, Sakura is as much his girlfriend as she isn't, and that's what Naruto was saying -- "more or less."

Like I said before, it's Shrodinger's cat. ;)

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 05:02 AM

Some people think Sakura and Karin will fight over Sasuke.

 

Definitely not. Fans have to remember that Sakura is not the same Sakura she was in Part 1. She's not that fangirl who would ruin her friendship with her best friend so she could "win over Sasuke" like he's a male trophy. Yes, Sakura still loves Sasuke. But she is smart enough to know that Sasuke is not worth fighting over anymore, especially considering everything he's done. Of course she'll forgive him or she may have already forgiven him, but that doesn't mean she will be a fangirl again. Some people need to let go of their first impressions, this is a long series loaded with character development. -_-

 

Sakura's matured for the most part, I don't see her resorting to petty arguments over Sasuke of all people. A romantic rival like Karin is the least of her concerns right now, I think. Sakura's still trying to define and sort out her feelings for Naruto and Sasuke. That comes first in her personal life.


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 05:03 AM

Still can't believe the amount of work Kishi put into this chapter when it comes to art. This may be my fifth or sixth time reading it and I still can't get enough of this chapter

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 05:04 AM

Anyone thinks this volume will be the end of the battle or not?



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 05:04 AM

Still can't believe the amount of work Kishi put into this chapter when it comes to art. This may be my fifth or sixth time reading it and I still can't get enough of this chapter

 Our Sakura deserved no less than the best. :D

 

 

 

Anyone thinks this volume will be the end of the battle or not?

 

I'm not sure, to be honest. Sure I can see the chance of the Ten Tails being taken down on this volume, but there are other things which we might be redirected to, like the Kakashi/Obito fight or even the kages.


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 05:08 AM

Anyone thinks this volume will be the end of the battle or not?

Really depends, i heard there was still another form for the Juubi, if that is true then I think the battle will continue past.

 

If not then maybe it might end, but there is still Madara and Obito.



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 05:08 AM

 Our Sakura deserved no less than the best. :D


Unles she gets an even greater technique or power. Come on Kishi, make Sakura even more badass.

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 05:09 AM

 
Even if it was blushes, it was still pretty--no, actually, not 'pretty', but very--insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
 
Especially when compared to what we got back on 631.


Agreed! Very insignificant indeed

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 05:10 AM

Unles she gets an even greater technique or power. Come on Kishi, make Sakura even more badass.

 

Well, we're talking about the quality of the chapter in terms of artistic nature. As for power ups, of course, I'm also expecting more. After all, her seal opens up the door for even more potential.


Edited by Shadow Wolf, 31 May 2013 - 05:11 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 05:11 AM

I think maybe you're reading it too literally, and not giving the "more or less" part enough weight.
The question was, is Sakura his girlfriend. Naruto's answer tells us that as far as his feelings are concerned, and based on where things were left after her confession, he's thinking she might be. Sort of.
And that's the thing. At this point, Sakura is as much his girlfriend as she isn't, and that's what Naruto was saying -- "more or less."
Like I said before, it's Shrodinger's cat. ;)

Hmm, yeah sounds right.

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 05:14 AM

Its very hard to predict what will happen in the upcoming chapters. Literally anything could happen! Well not anything, but alot.
Is there more for Sakura?
Does it flip back to Obito and Kakashi?
Where's Oro?
More focus on the hokages?
More NS moments? <---- This one I want most!

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 05:16 AM

 
Well, we're talking about the quality of the chapter in terms of artistic nature. As for power ups, of course, I'm also expecting more. After all, her seal opens up the door for even more potential.


I meant that his art should be even more thrilling when/if she does. I want to see him go all out on a future chapter with Sakura in battle like he did with this one.

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 05:21 AM

 Our Sakura deserved no less than the best. :D

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure, to be honest. Sure I can see the chance of the Ten Tails being taken down on this volume, but there are other things which we might be redirected to, like the Kakashi/Obito fight or even the kages.

I don't blame you. I'm in the exact same situation. I know we have others to cover, but I have never see the theme (Team 7 in this case) going on for two volumes. Not that I would complain but the problem is that it feels like an easy win once Juubi is out of the way when you think about it. I still don't know...

 

Really depends, i heard there was still another form for the Juubi, if that is true then I think the battle will continue past.

 

If not then maybe it might end, but there is still Madara and Obito.

Yeah, but the problem is that the next transformation is Judgement Day, game over. I can picture the reaction will be like one ask now what, only to receive the expression of "It's over..." Quite frankly, I like that moment, even though in real life, it's the most hardest acceptance in life. But again, Kishi is not going for Evangelion ending on us....right???

 

I know we have those two but look above. Personally, I would wait for Obito/Kakashi to ever show up again.



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 05:30 AM

I meant that his art should be even more thrilling when/if she does. I want to see him go all out on a future chapter with Sakura in battle like he did with this one.

 

Oh, I'm pretty sure that he will go all out when it comes to his main characters, so I'm confident in him being this impressive when he shows Sakura in the future.

 

Anyway, we have half of the volume with this chapter, so there is much than can be done with the other half. For now, I'll sit back and see how Kishi handles this. Our ship is sailing well so far. :yes:

 

 

I don't blame you. I'm in the exact same situation. I know we have others to cover, but I have never see the theme (Team 7 in this case) going on for two volumes. Not that I would complain but the problem is that it feels like an easy win once Juubi is out of the way when you think about it. I still don't know...

 

Yeah, but the problem is that the next transformation is Judgement Day, game over. I can picture the reaction will be like one ask now what, only to receive the expression of "It's over..." Quite frankly, I like that moment, even though in real life, it's the most hardest acceptance in life. But again, Kishi is not going for Evangelion ending on us....right???

 

I know we have those two but look above. Personally, I would wait for Obito/Kakashi to ever show up again.

 

Well, the war has been active since volume 55 and the Juubi sonce volume 64 I believe. IMO, Kishi will begin to bring this war to a closure. It may seem like an easy win against the 10 tails, but we have to keep in mind that if it wasn't for the 4 kages, maybe they would still be having a hard time with it. Who knows, maybe these lasts 5-6 chapters will be dedicated to taking down the 10 tails. After that, we'll see how Kishi handles the rest of the war. After all, we have an overpowered Madara here.



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 05:35 AM

Well, the war has been active since volume 55 and the Juubi sonce volume 64 I believe. IMO, Kishi will begin to bring this war to a closure. It may seem like an easy win against the 10 tails, but we have to keep in mind that if it wasn't for the 4 kages, maybe they would still be having a hard time with it. Who knows, maybe these lasts 5-6 chapters will be dedicated to taking down the 10 tails. After that, we'll see how Kishi handles the rest of the war. After all, we have an overpowered Madara here.

Yeah, but so do we have Hashirama, along with all other Hokages which I think they have the same effect of unlimited chakra (correct me). I think the direction will be determined if we see Obito and Kakashi getting into the mix because no doubt, Obito will be done with if he shows up now. Perhaps he will be upset or convinced once he sees Juubi going down. So yeah, this is hard to determine the direction because again, I have not yet see a theme last longer than one volume, but maybe this is it here. Maybe. I got no real clue. 5 chapters left to determine the direction.



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 05:41 AM

Already Friday! Which means 4 days until Tuesday lolol






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