AWWWWW the team 7 FEELS!!!!
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#15361
Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:05 AM
AWWWWW the team 7 FEELS!!!!
#15362
Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:06 AM
AWWWWW the team 7 FEELS!!!!
Where?
There's no panels that proves this statement she only wishes for the matter to be settled and for everyone has a happy ending.
Second even Naruto now realizes that the old days were gone already when the mental image of the team 7 shattered on his mind, they can never be reunited again not after all the things that happened, Sai, Yamato introduction, Naruto already going to be kage, Team Taka and etc...
Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 05 April 2013 - 11:08 AM.
#15363
Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:19 AM
There's no panels that proves this statement she only wishes for the matter to be settled and for everyone has a happy ending.
Second even Naruto now realizes that the old days were gone already when the mental image of the team 7 shattered on his mind, they can never be reunited again not after all the things that happened, Sai, Yamato introduction, Naruto already going to be kage, Team Taka and etc...
What? When???
#15364
Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:20 AM
Think about levels of difficulty.
Normal -> Save Sasuke
Extreme Hardcore -> Save Sasuke, Bring him back to the village. (Here's the promise).
The problem is that each day Sasuke went further into darkness and comitted more crimes, seeming more than impossible to bring him back to the village and then when he found out that Sakura went to kill Sasuke, he knew that the team 7 would never be like they were on the past again.
Save Sasuke is already hard for Naruto imagine making Sasuke to live on the village that he hates.
I think the hard part is actually saving him from the darkness ... after that is done , talking him into returning to the village should be the easier part . Also , does Sasuke really hate the village ? He does say so , but I think he has mixed feelings about it , seeing as he asks Orochimaru what was it that made him hate it . That's why he summoned the hokage , to find our what it means to be a ninja and what is a village so that he can decide on his own where he stands . Guess we will find out next chapter how he really feels about it .
I for one really hope you are right , I am not a fan of Sasuke or his redemption ... just that the manga seems to be heading in that direction .
#15365
Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:25 AM
I for one really hope you are right , I am not a fan of Sasuke or his redemption ... just that the manga seems to be heading in that direction .
I see that the manga is heading to Sasuke's redemption but i dont believe that he will come back to team 7, that the manga is not heading to this direction but it's going the opposite, Sai's introduction, Yamato, Naruto going to be kage which he will surely will, Sakura probably going to take Tsunade's spot, Team taka which obviously is already Sasuke's team and so on...
Team 7 reunition is like "Forever kids".
And the reason why i'm against it is that Kishimot can easily turns a "Team 7 reunition" an Naruto's ending.
#15366
Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:54 AM
When it comes to Sakura's wish to see Team 7 smiling together again I think it's more in terms of being happy with each other and not about going on missions together for the Village. It's about Team 7 finding peace as a whole, which completely rides on Sasuke's redemption.
By the end Sasuke will probably do his own thing with Team Taka at his side, but he'll know that he'll always have Team 7 to support him since they're his family.
This is actually another reason why I don't see Sasuke forming some romantic relationship with Sakura by the end. The main one is that Sasuke's character has never been about romance, but also that whatever the future has ahead for Sasuke (depending on whether he lives) I don't think it will be rooted to just the Leaf Village. Sakura's life belongs with Naruto and the village where her family and friends reside, so it would feel out of place for her to suddenly go just to be with Sasuke and Team Taka.
That's another reason why I believe SasuKarin actually has more chances of happening and would be more fitting for Sasuke. First of all we don't actually need to see them get together, just something that implies a positive relationship is enough. Since Sasuke is not a romantic character this actually fits with him perfectly. On the other hand, a great part of Sakura's development has to deal with her feelings so with her it needs to be more flashy, something that doesn't fit with Sasuke, but can go perfectly with Naruto.
Another reason is that Karin doesn't have any family to go back to, her family is now Team Taka which includes Sasuke. She makes the perfect partner to go alongside Sasuke to wherever he wishes to. Sakura has countless ties that would make it feel awkward if she just decided to drop all of it just to go with Sasuke. Not to mention that she would regress to the Sakura in Part 1 that begged Sasuke to take her with him and who claimed that despite her family and friends that she would feel alone without Sasuke.
Sakura has Naruto, Ino, her parents, Kakashi, Tsunade (if she lives), Shizune, the rookies, Sai and Yamato. No way she just bids them farewell to journey with Sasuke and Team Taka.
Many want Sasuke and Sakura to be together, but the problem is that considering all of the elements that surround the story right now how will it be reasonable for it to happen and continue onwards as the series ends. Does Sasuke just comes back to the Village and they go on Team 7 adventures again, but now with the added bonus of Sasuke and Sakura being lovey dovey with each other? Team Taka just goes to the side then? I don't think so.
Now that Sasuke is trying to find out the meaning of a shinobi I find it hard to believe that his conclusion is just about going back to doing the same old Team 7 missions with Naruto and Sakura. I think Sasuke has a bigger destiny than that, just like Naruto has his destiny of becoming Hokage and bringer of peace.
#15367
Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:04 PM
When it comes to Sakura's wish to see Team 7 smiling together again I think it's more in terms of being happy with each other and not about going on missions together for the Village. It's about Team 7 finding peace as a whole, which completely rides on Sasuke's redemption.
By the end Sasuke will probably do his own thing with Team Taka at his side, but he'll know that he'll always have Team 7 to support him since they're his family.
This is actually another reason why I don't see Sasuke forming some romantic relationship with Sakura by the end. The main one is that Sasuke's character has never been about romance, but also that whatever the future has ahead for Sasuke (depending on whether he lives) I don't think it will be rooted to just the Leaf Village. Sakura's life belongs with Naruto and the village where her family and friends reside, so it would feel out of place for her to suddenly go just to be with Sasuke and Team Taka.
That's another reason why I believe SasuKarin actually has more chances of happening and would be more fitting for Sasuke. First of all we don't actually need to see them get together, just something that implies a positive relationship is enough. Since Sasuke is not a romantic character this actually fits with him perfectly. On the other hand, a great part of Sakura's development has to deal with her feelings so with her it needs to be more flashy, something that doesn't fit with Sasuke, but can go perfectly with Naruto.
Another reason is that Karin doesn't have any family to go back to, her family is now Team Taka which includes Sasuke. She makes the perfect partner to go alongside Sasuke to wherever he wishes to. Sakura has countless ties that would make it feel awkward if she just decided to drop all of it just to go with Sasuke. Not to mention that she would regress to the Sakura in Part 1 that begged Sasuke to take her with him and who claimed that despite her family and friends that she would feel alone without Sasuke.
Sakura has Naruto, Ino, her parents, Kakashi, Tsunade (if she lives), Shizune, the rookies, Sai and Yamato. No way she just bids them farewell to journey with Sasuke and Team Taka.
Many want Sasuke and Sakura to be together, but the problem is that considering all of the elements that surround the story right now how will it be reasonable for it to happen and continue onwards as the series ends. Does Sasuke just comes back to the Village and they go on Team 7 adventures again, but now with the added bonus of Sasuke and Sakura being lovey dovey with each other? Team Taka just goes to the side then? I don't think so.
Now that Sasuke is trying to find out the meaning of a shinobi I find it hard to believe that his conclusion is just about going back to doing the same old Team 7 missions with Naruto and Sakura. I think Sasuke has a bigger destiny than that, just like Naruto has his destiny of becoming Hokage and bringer of peace.
~Le murder attempts~
Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 05 April 2013 - 12:07 PM.
#15368
Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:10 PM
If this is the correct translation we can assume that Sakura is not thinking about any SS or Sasuke back in the Villages, to my understanding she is saying that now she believes there can be a happy ending for everyone on team 7, not that she believes team 7 will be happy together again, in other words it seems like if she is saying that as long Sasuke is not driven by revenge and choose the right pact for a better future and Naruto doesn't continue this endless chase putting is life in danger then yes she believes that everyone on team 7 can have an happy ending.
Plus this is the page that leads me to believe that there is something strong between Naruto and Sakura but to avoid it Kishi needed to kill off the moment.
That moment felt like a wife waiting for her husband in a nice lingerie to celebrate his birthday but before she can go any further with her seduction she finds out that he is already a sleep leaving her with a big disappointment feelings, that is what Kishi did in that panel, ass well as 245 when she was fishing for a complement, in 261, Sai's thoughts, Yamato speech, her last word in her confession before he cut her off, so I guess Kishimoto is saving all of this for the end.
After all he said that all hints will have there meaning by the end.
Edited by Don-kun, 05 April 2013 - 12:15 PM.
#15369
Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:10 PM
Whatever the case with the promise, there is still just too much to just dump.
Even without the promise, its still logical to think that Naruto would confront Sakura about his feelings at some point, or Sakura can make that move (if she begins to shift towards Naruto)
Without the promise, would Naruto still feel the same way about not being worthy of hokage or confessing to Sakura unless he can actually save sasuke, not get him back to the village as orginially intended?
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#15370
Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:10 PM
I don't get your post.
#15371
Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:14 PM
If this is the correct translation we can assume that Sakura is not thinking about any SS or Sasuke back in the Villages, to my understanding she is saying that now she believes there can be a happy ending for everyone on team 7, not that she believes team 7 will be happy together again, in other words it seems like if she is saying that as long Sasuke is not driven by revenge and choose the right pact for a better future and Naruto doesn't continue this endless chase putting is life in danger then yes she believes that everyone on team 7 can have an happy ending.
Plus this is the page that leads me to believe that there is something strong between Naruto and Sakura but to avoid it Kishi needed to kill off the moment.
That moment felt like a wife waiting for her husband in a nice lingerie to celebrate his birthday but before she can go any further with her seduction she finds out that he is already a sleep leaving her with a big disappointment feelings, that is what Kishi did in that panel, ass well as 245 when she was fishing for a complement, in 261, Sai's thoughts, Yamato speech, her last word in her confession before he cut her off, so I guess Kishimoto is saving all of this for the end.
After he said that all hints will have there meaning in the end.
Wut?
I felt that this comparison was out of place.
But i felt that it got strong after sakura's smile and when she smiled at Naruto when they come back, implying that she is way more gentle and tender with Naruto.
@Reddragon88
You forgot the muder attempts
#15372
Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:20 PM

This pic with the choclate amazes me, i still dont get how that works
#15373
Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:29 PM
I felt that this comparison was out of place.
But i felt that it got strong after sakura's smile and when she smiled at Naruto when they come back, implying that she is way more gentle and tender with Naruto.
@Reddragon88
You forgot the muder attempts
I couldn't think of anything else at the moment, but in the end they both have the same meaning disappointment, the readers wanted to know what would Naruto reply to her words but he fainted, said something stu*id, cut her off or interrupted a conversation, those four elements apply on the examples I gave you guys, Kishi is always using some tactic to shift the momentum when it becomes too obvious or too emotional between Naruto and Sakura.
#15374
Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:36 PM
In the naruto faints scene from the posion kunai, Sakura was just thinking that stuff though, she didn't say anything to him, one thing about Sakura is how she usually limits herself when being open with Naruto. But as for the cutting things off stuff between them, yeah thats true, occured a few times like with Yamato, Sakura about to feed him, and this one yet all have some type of interruption.
On a side note though,
Even without the promise, its still logical to think that Naruto would confront Sakura about his feelings at some point, or Sakura can make that move (if she begins to shift towards Naruto)
Without the promise, would Naruto still feel the same way about not being worthy of hokage or confessing to Sakura unless he can actually save sasuke, not get him back to the village as orginially intended?
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#15375
Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:46 PM
On a side note though,
Even without the promise, its still logical to think that Naruto would confront Sakura about his feelings at some point, or Sakura can make that move (if she begins to shift towards Naruto)
Without the promise, would Naruto still feel the same way about not being worthy of hokage or confessing to Sakura unless he can actually save sasuke, not get him back to the village as orginially intended?
What was making Naruto unable to confess was the promise now, that it was lifted Kishimoto, fainted Naruto, then after sends him into a secret mission to train on a insland and she didnt took part of it.
They had a moment where Naruto oculd say something, when the ramen guy invited Sakura to sit on Naruto's side, and she could not because she had to deliver the news.
Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 05 April 2013 - 12:46 PM.
#15376
Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:05 PM
Well if this panel is anything to go by:

Naruto won't feel he's completely qualified to be Hokage until Sasuke is dealt with. The same can probably be said about his feelings for Sakura. It'll depend until they interact once again.
Given that proper interaction between Naruto and Sakura has been avoided like wildfire ever since the Summit arc I do believe it was done for a reason. If Naruto was meant to get over Sakura and go to Hinata then Naruto's feelings for Sakura would've been resolved way before chapter 615 came to be, but that wasn't the case.
Some try to brush it off as Naruto getting over Sakura off panel, and I believe that's a mistake that will cost many dearly.
#15377
Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:07 PM

Naruto won't feel he's completely qualified to be Hokage until Sasuke is dealt with. The same can probably be said about his feelings for Sakura. It'll depend until they interact once again.
Given that proper interaction between Naruto and Sakura has been avoided like wildfire ever since the Summit arc I do believe it was done for a reason. If Naruto was meant to get over Sakura and go to Hinata then Naruto's feelings for Sakura would've been resolved way before chapter 615 came to be, but that wasn't the case.
Some try to brush it off as Naruto getting over Sakura off panel, and I believe that's a mistake that will cost many dearly.
That's what I being saying for a while now, the moment Kishi decides to show that Naruto still loves Sakura the meltdown on the forums will be 50 times bigger than the Tobi being Obito and 500 times more shocking/stunning than 540.
On a side note though,
Even without the promise, its still logical to think that Naruto would confront Sakura about his feelings at some point, or Sakura can make that move (if she begins to shift towards Naruto)
Without the promise, would Naruto still feel the same way about not being worthy of hokage or confessing to Sakura unless he can actually save sasuke, not get him back to the village as orginially intended?
Well you see to me Naruto is the one you inspired you to wish him luck with the girl he likes, but Sakura to me is the driven factor of NS so I kind of focus on her and not so much on Naruto since I already know he is all for NS unless Kishi state's otherwise.
Of topic:
I don't know but I'm starting to believe that this Hanabi-Rin would give LadyGT a little run for her money, her drawing skill are really good.
Here is her link for the ones who don't know her.
http://hanabi-rin.deviantart.com/
Edited by Don-kun, 05 April 2013 - 01:22 PM.
#15378
Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:10 PM

"This hat means a lot to me. Promise me you'll give it back someday...
when you've become a great pirate." -Shanks
#15379
Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:42 PM
On a side note though,
Even without the promise, its still logical to think that Naruto would confront Sakura about his feelings at some point, or Sakura can make that move (if she begins to shift towards Naruto)
Without the promise, would Naruto still feel the same way about not being worthy of hokage or confessing to Sakura unless he can actually save sasuke, not get him back to the village as orginially intended?
Bolded: Limit herself??? Thats one of the problems with Sakura she holds back when she shouldn't do. This kind of relates to her wanted to do the right things for naruto. Holding back isn't helping her accomplish this
#15380
Posted 05 April 2013 - 02:05 PM

Naruto won't feel he's completely qualified to be Hokage until Sasuke is dealt with. The same can probably be said about his feelings for Sakura. It'll depend until they interact once again.
Given that proper interaction between Naruto and Sakura has been avoided like wildfire ever since the Summit arc I do believe it was done for a reason. If Naruto was meant to get over Sakura and go to Hinata then Naruto's feelings for Sakura would've been resolved way before chapter 615 came to be, but that wasn't the case.
Some try to brush it off as Naruto getting over Sakura off panel, and I believe that's a mistake that will cost many dearly.
I'm pretty sure what naruto reffered to being burdened by was him being the nine tails jinchurki and Sasuke being burdened as an Uchiha. Its the history between the nine tails and the Uchiha clan that drove them to their current standings, just unlike all of the past, Naruto is trying to seek a better resolve then just more violence (as he is starting too being good friends with kurama now). The prospect of dying was noting that they would no longer be troubled by these things which not only defined them but have also been both blessings and curses to them.
Also on another note, with Sai's reveal to Sakura which drove her to do the fake confession and try to make amends to Naruto, there was one other thing Sai may not have realized or told Sakura, that while both she and Sasuke cause Naruto pain, they are also his souces of strength, its the issues that came up iin team 7 that when it comes to naruto, thats what really brings his all. I can see this coming back, I mean Nauto resolving to Sakura from Gaara fits this one, if she got in trouble again that would still arise I'm sure.
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