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#15241 DattebayoXShannaro

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:13 AM

I'm afraid to look at that trailer now.  This whole thing is ludicrous, and I still can't believe it's reality.  I know at the end of the day that this all relates to a work of fiction, but still, it's not like you feel nothing when you let yourself get attached to it, and the work ends up like this, a victim of marketing.

 

 

One of the tumblr users I'm following said this. Have Japanese Artists completely lost their minds?!:

 

 

It's just a rumor.


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:13 AM

Only NaruHina fans would like it. It's their Twilight.

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:13 AM

One of the tumblr users I'm following said this. Have Japanese Artists completely lost their minds?!:

 

That is incredibly sad if true. People are going to alter there own stories to protect the sexist Kishimoto? WTF????



 


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:15 AM

Well, I'll be back. Time to check on my items I bought. But one last time:

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:16 AM

One of the tumblr users I'm following said this. Have Japanese Artists completely lost their minds?!:


It seems unlikely a random guy happened to have just overheard the secret gossip of a bunch of mangaka.
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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:17 AM

That is incredibly sad if true. People are going to alter there own stories to protect the sexist Kishimoto? WTF????

 

Defend him from what?  Are things really that bad?  Or is it just about the cover?



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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:18 AM

One of the tumblr users I'm following said this. Have Japanese Artists completely lost their minds?!:

 

 

Is this an admittance of support from the artists and the fans? Or am I misinterpreting it? 



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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:20 AM

You can't defend Kishi's bad writing. If you NH fans say "I like to see you make a better ending." Well maybe I can. It may suck but at least it's more realistic then this crap.

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:22 AM

It seems unlikely a random guy happened to have just overheard the secret gossip of a bunch of mangaka.

 

 

Is this an admittance of support from the artists and the fans? Or am I misinterpreting it? 

I wasn't honestly sure what exactly she was trying to say in the first part about the Mangakas. I'll ask her again later.

But if that's true... I'm prepared for seeing my horrible manga endings coming up in the future.


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:30 AM

I swear this movie sounds like a bad Seltzerberg movie.

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:34 AM

If you NH fans say "I like to see you make a better ending."

Wow, this is going to be easy.

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:37 AM

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:38 AM

 

I wasn't honestly sure what exactly she was trying to say in the first part about the Mangakas. I'll ask her again later.

But if that's true... I'm prepared for seeing my horrible manga endings coming up in the future.

 

Why would mangakas feel the need to support Kishimoto for his ending anyway?  Isn't the feedback mixed?



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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:39 AM

You can't defend Kishi's bad writing. If you NH fans say "I like to see you make a better ending." Well maybe I can. It may suck but at least it's more realistic then this crap.

These idiots don't realize that even their terrible arguments about how NH would happen were better than that trash. Like Naruto moving on and answering Hinata's confession offscreen, them "getting to know eachother better" and going on dates offscreen, all that offscreen development we laughed at, it'd have been bad of course but compared to this it now looks like genius writing. 

 

l don't think l'll ever get over "she likes me like l like ramen" and Naruto STILL ignoring her for two years. For crying out loud, they live in the same damn city, they're working the same job, don't they go on missions together? If ninjas even go on missions now that it's world peace, but of course let's not think too hard about it or else the awful worldbuilding would become too egregious. How am l suppose to buy people like that could exist? Two freaking years of awkward silences between the two and Naruto as a popular, horny teenager that conveniently stays single and pure for Princess Hinata? This is so ridiculous.



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Posted 29 November 2014 - 03:40 AM

I wasn't honestly sure what exactly she was trying to say in the first part about the Mangakas. I'll ask her again later.
But if that's true... I'm prepared for seeing my horrible manga endings coming up in the future.


I've been following her on Tumblr for a while now. She's still one of the people who believes narusaku is possible, despite the fact that Hinata's daughter has whiskers and every single other fact that has confirmed naruhina is canon. Her husband has also been telling her things to comfort her, so keep that in mind.

Even if he is true, then how likely is it possible? A random person on the street talking about manga does not equate to exclusive insider information. How likely is it that a bunch of mangaka will decide to ruin their own series to "support" Kishimoto?
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Posted 29 November 2014 - 04:00 AM

I've been following her on Tumblr for a while now. She's still one of the people who believes narusaku is possible, despite the fact that Hinata's daughter has whiskers and every single other fact that has confirmed naruhina is canon. Her husband has also been telling her things to comfort her, so keep that in mind.

Even if he is true, then how likely is it possible? A random person on the street talking about manga does not equate to exclusive insider information. How likely is it that a bunch of mangaka will decide to ruin their own series to "support" Kishimoto?

I'm quite aware of the fact that she is still believes in NaruSaku, but most of her followers take it with a grain of salt anyways. I've read how supportive her husband is (pretty sweet of him, I gotta say).

If you follow her, you should know that she is just gathering up rumors and telling them her followers. She's aware that many people do not believe her.

How likely is that one rumor? Of course, there's a small possibility that it is true... I wasn't there, you weren't there.Though I do not have any proofs, I'm pretty sure that neither she or her husband are lying. He might have just misunderstood what he heard... Again, it's just a rumor, he heard while he was buying some medicine.

"Ruin the manga series"... Do you happen to know what the general reaction of the japanese artists over the ending is? We all think it's horrible, but I've seen enough sane people who like it :down:


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 04:17 AM

This rumor makes no sense. The ending of Naruto was specific to the series and it'd be absurd for other artists to emulate it, especially to "show support" or whatever. The thing with Naruto's ending is it was entirely dominated by pairings/couples and the forced conclusion of the love triangles, but most popular series currently published don't have romance or at least not romance comparable to Naruto's. 



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Posted 29 November 2014 - 04:20 AM

"She likes me like I like ramen"...
Naruto heard Hinata tell him she loved him and saw her willing to die for him fighting Pain. He knows she loves him and yet he still loved Sakura.
This is more BS from the retcon; trying to erase Naruto's knowledge of Hinata's feelings so it wouldn't look like he ignored her for 3 years after finding out.
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Posted 29 November 2014 - 04:23 AM

LOL @ the title thread, it fits perfectly with the movie <3

And the latest trailer,wow it's really getting worse everytime isn't it? Hell I'm not evem mad anymore, this Hinata BS is making me laugh,lol. I'm so done being frustated since chapter 699 and so really looking forward on Dec.6 so I could laugh really hard and finally move on.

                                 
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Posted 29 November 2014 - 04:33 AM

I'm quite aware of the fact that she is still believes in NaruSaku, but most of her followers take it with a grain of salt anyways. I've read how supportive her husband is (pretty sweet of him, I gotta say).
If you follow her, you should know that she is just gathering up rumors and telling them her followers. She's aware that many people do not believe her.
How likely is that one rumor? Of course, there's a small possibility that it is true... I wasn't there, you weren't there.Though I do not have any proofs, I'm pretty sure that neither she or her husband are lying. He might have just misunderstood what he heard... Again, it's just a rumor, he heard while he was buying some medicine.
"Ruin the manga series"... Do you happen to know what the general reaction of the japanese artists over the ending is? We all think it's horrible, but I've seen enough sane people who like it :down:

Ofcourse, but most people on this thread don't follow her and don't seem to understand her information should be taken as a grain of salt. Copying and pasting her posts here is really going to make people slightly more hopeful, and eventually even more disappointed.

I'm not saying her husband is necessarily lying to her, I'm saying there's no point dragging other the reputation if other mangakas' reputations through the mud based on laughable evidence. You hear rumours all the time, but spreading them despite the ridiculousness of it is doing nothing but hurting people.

"Ruin their manga series" as in, end their series with a movie that is essentially a giant retcon of established facts. Has any long-running series manage to ever successfully pull that off without essentially destroying their own story? No, because that is what a retcon is.

People who support this ending are either a) love Hinata and don't care how absurd the story has become to prop her up or are b) being polite about the series ending. No one calling it out as a retcon is actually applauding it as a good thing. And now we should consider the possibility that there are other authors who wish to end their series by sidelining their heroine to make a movie about the genesis of a Mary Sue? What?

Edited by Nefertieh, 29 November 2014 - 04:34 AM.

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