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[Phantom_999]

But I think they were referring to the "real" Naruto and Sakura, from canon manga, to their real bond in the manga. In the last, they seemed to be barely friends...

 

Even if that were true, You still don't see it. Naruto is apparently avoiding his family by staying in the office and Sakura is dusting and keeping house and that's all we see in Ch. 700. There was no indication that they are the best of friends and remember if Naruto and Hinata are married in the distant finale of the manga, we have to treat The Last as canon no matter how much it blows or is an insult to the characters and overall series cause it indicates the wedding which does happen no matter the flimsy excuse. As much as we hate what the series has become, there is no use disregarding what happened in "The Last" as part of the canon.

 

Of course you can argue they interact and stay in touch off screen but again we have to see actual proof of things, to actually know, and I don;t see that closeness they share anymore, despite what the voice actors say or the intention to portray them like that.  

Edited by Phantom_999, 06 April 2015 - 04:53 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

How's the reaction to the interview in  in Japan? Must be fun living there right now. At least the majority of the country stands with you. :(

It's...getting nasty. One person that I know who is very kind is on rage. It scared me like I just saw a ghost with my own eyes, which btw if that does happen, I'm going to asylum. Not having that. Nope.

[trang95]

 
That is pretty true, although I do remember him saying how he can see NH in one of his older videos.
 
 
That's true, pairings aside, he brings the truth of this series to youtube. I can't wait to hear his take on The Last because from what he said he saw the sh*tty camera version that was online. Which good for him he got to save his cash like many of us here.  

Can you give us a link to his youtube page?

[AzureWaters]

You know, they sure talked about this subject way too much. I don't think a romance series get this amount of attention. You would think we would talk about anything but this subject. I swear the next interview is the same subject...

Well the interviewer asked them specifically about SS (and NH, but they only talk about the former at length.)

Like I said before, I definitely think this is due to them appreciating team 7 bonds more. That's why they compliment SS and why they place NS over NH. Still, from the way they speak it doesnt really seem like they're being forced to say this.

[FireFox]

Entire interview-
 

[Takeuchi](Naruto’s seiyuu) : Yes…It seems like that. For a long time ago, honestly, in the first meeting with Kishi-sensei, I was told about this ending..

[Nakamura]( Sakura’s seiyuu): It was when anime started being showed, I think it was the second meeting ?

[Sugiyama](Sasuke seiyuu): At that time, Kishi sensei already said that the endgame couple would be Sasusaku.

[Nakamura] : (About Sakura’s mature’s love) : At the beginning, Sakura just completely devoted herself to love, but when Sasuke left the village, she knew how to live for a true love.

[Sugiyama] : ( About Sasuke’s sentence : You are so damn annoying) This sentence every time being said showed a change in Sasusaku’s relationship ,so the meaning of it is very deep.At first, because of his older brother’s betrayal, Sasuke disbelieved in human, but he started considering Sakura as his comrade gradually, the meaning of the word “annoying” also has been changed from there.But really till the end, his strong will to take revenge on his older brother always remained no.1 so there was no place to love someone.

Then the reporter asked about chapter 693, right after hearing Sakura’s confession then she was stabbed unconsciously by Sasuke who used genjutsu on her, and here are some comments about that part :

Sakura’s strong love was rejected by Sasuke ( Because at that time, Sasuke had unknowned about his feelings for Sakura, and Sakura’s thought changed also, from wanting to own Sasuke to wanting him have his own happiness . See how her love for Sasuke had matured there ?). And all of the words having said by Kakashi - on behalf of Sakura, already shook Sasuke’s feelings.

Later, the reporter asked :

Reporter’s question  ® : So when you guys dubbed your own characters,were there any sence which you feel that your own characters had matured in love ?

Nakamura said that it was the scene when Kakashi said how deeply Sakura has loved Sasuke, and making Sakuke change his feelings successfully ( In other words, he showed his real feelings at that time)

[Nakamura] : A Sakura used to devote herself to love only, then she didn’t ask for a requitted love, eventually she has knowned  what is true love ( This part is about showing the change in Sakura’s love, reading chapter 693 for reference)

[Sugiyama] : I think that…Sasuke himself showed his change obviously right after his last fight against Naruto ( After all the time, Sakura has always helped and forgiven Sasuke)..This was when Sasuke realized  that he not only had loved her romantically but also he felt a love more deeply than their bonds.His feelings is so consistant.And in my opinion, it linked to the sentence “I’ll see you soon” of Sasuke afterwards.

[Takeuchi]: Now considering all of the girls that have loved Sasuke includes : Sakura, Ino and Karin, right ?

[Sugiyama] Apparently it’s correct.

[Takeuchi] Why Sasuke didn’t choose Karin ? *laughs*

[Sugiyama] I don’t know *laughs*

[Takeuchi] : Really ? I have never had that thought in my mind.

[Nakamura] : No, it’s not love, I mean that if Sasuke still cooperates with Karin as a comrade ( The meaning is remaining Taka team, because Sasuke didn’t love Karin romatically so there is no chance they can stay besides each other as lovers)

[Takeuchi] : I get what you mean. My question is that during the time from 699-700, for more than 10 years, has Sasuke been chased by girls ?

[Sugiyama] : I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case.

[Nakamura] But Sakura would definitely thinks that “I have gone that far so absolutely, I would never give Sasuke to anyone”

[Sugiyama] Plus no one can win over Sakura – the person who was madly in love with Sasuke.

[Nakamura]: I would suppose that if there is any girl tends to approach Sasuke, then Sakura would definitely says “Shannaroo” and then kick her ass right after *laughs*

[Takeuchi] : On the other hands, Sasuke is very pure when it comes to girl, and he is ashamed as well, so it seems that he wouldn’t go for the girl initiatively.

[Sugiyama] : He is so passive

[Takeuchi] : But even though Sasuke is taciturn, he still conveys his feelings precisely.His words to Sakura in chapter 699 , “I’ll see you soon, Thank you” . It’s definitely an offer of marriage.

[Nakamura] And Sakura also completely accepts that.

[Takeuchi] : Because of that then afterwards during the timeskip (more 10 years),no matter what how many girls he has met, his love for Sakura will still remain the same.

[Sugiyama] : In Sasuke, there is a sincerity and consistency like that

[Nakamura] : But let try this way, while Sakura, because of Sasuke’s words “ I’ll see you soon”, takes it as the reason to live, then when Sasuke comes back, he is surrounded by beautiful girls with long legs then how is she able to stand that ?

[Sugiyama] : That kind of thing doesn’t seem suitable for a manga which intends for 13+, right ?

[Nakamura] : This digresses from subject but among Naruto’s love stories, I like Minato&Kushina the most.

[Takeuchi] : So do I.

[Nakamura] : Kushina told Naruto to find a girl whom resembles her, but the girl that has closet personality to Kushina is definitely Sakura.

[Sugiyama]:Sakura and Kushina are always the ones who wear a pant in a relationship

[Nakamura] : So if Naruto and Hinata fight against each other, then Naruto would absolutely go to Sakura’s place for advice, ahaha

[Takeuchi] : Then Sakura will say “ You don’t know anything about a girl”

[Nakamura] : Right !

[Takeuchi] : But if it’s really like that then there is no place for Hinata …?

[Nakamura] Honestly the bond between Sakura and Naruto is more stronger than lovers’s/husband & wife’s bonds of Naruhina, plus, Hinata is Sakura’s good friend as well.

[Takeuchi]:That’s right, so if Naruhina have a fight then Hinata will also go to Sakura’s place

[Nakamura] Their bonds are like between people of a big family.

[Takeuchi] So where is the position of Sasuke ?

[Sugiyama]: Frankly Sasuke usually go travelling around the world, even his daughter also says “Shannaro” to him, so I think that he has no power in his family, hahaha ( Sugiyama means that Sasuke’s not only  afraid of his wife but also his daughter)

[Reporter] : Had Naruto gone through romantic love ?

[Takeuchi] :Nope. The only time he has gone through romantic love is in The Last

I don't know how can any true and sane Sasuke fan can be ok with butchering his character like this , I mean really Sasuke always knew how he felt about Naruto or anybody else he didn't kittening hide it . But LOL at Sasuke being "AFRAID"  of Sakura and the Salad biggest JOKE of the century         . 

 

The VA justifying SS based on only 693/699 and Sakura's feelings only proves how forced and none existed SS was basically this is the whole SS development  asspulled feelings of Sasuke in the end by two freaking chapters Bra -kittening-vo sign . And its even more disgusting that they count this as actual "love" and healthy  wonder why the negativity of SS was never addressed , for kitten's sakes how can you sit there and justify this sexist kitten  with Sakura !? DISGUSTING !!! .     . Planned since the beginning my ass .They just keep contradicting manga events , previous interviews and DB  nothing means kitten anymore  .

 

But the most I'm disappointed in here is Junko even though it felt like she's trying to battle this SS kitten with SK  but still  ugh !!! I have no words especially at the bolded  when she has stated at least to times that Naruto loves Sakura  so its fake and a retcon to say otherwise.Also I was so sick by both Chie and Sigyama fangrling trying so hard to justify this abomination SS kitten  they should just get a room already and kitten themselves hard  .

 

All in all this Interview is pure kitten and vomit inducing it feels so forced and staged !!! 

 

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well the interviewer asked them specifically about SS (and NH, but they only talk about the former at length.)

Like I said before, I definitely think this is due to them appreciating team 7 bonds more. That's why they compliment SS and why they place NS over NH. Still, from the way they speak it doesnt really seem like they're being forced to say this.

The detail part does sound forced that a lot of people don't seem to buy it which I don't blame them because you're confusing us and you only overriding one "fact" after another. It's like "So which one??"

I mean look, no matter what anyone say, it doesn't change the writing. My point on this whole thing is that it just don't feel genuine. It's more believable to hear HHH saying he has no grudge with CM Punk, which in fact he truly do. Like one comment said, I can just draw an arrow and bam, you'll believe me because I said so.

[FireFox]

You know, they sure talked about this subject way too much. I don't think a romance series get this amount of attention. You would think we would talk about anything but this subject. I swear the next interview is the same subject...

That's bc they know the damage they've done with the paring kitten and how much it destroyed the series as a whole  so they're trying to fix this in anyway they can  but mostly by erasing the whole manga development and NS as their biggest threat !!! .

[RyohkiFan]

Holy snap, I feel like a war is happening right now with that interview, I feel like its forced when I read it...contradictions everywhere

[Hiraishin]

They're basically saying the same points SS fans use in their arguments lmao. Especially the annoying explanation by Noriaki and that 693 thing.

Im surprised Junko seems to like the pairing so much. =/

That's what I thought. They must've gone online and scoured forums and everything to find a way to justify this mess.

Same... :\ On the other hand, Chie spoke quite well of NS. Not that I ever expected her to dislike it, but you know. She seemed to understand and like their bond.

[LuckyChi7]

Could you link to the artist? I wanna see more of her stuff.

 

Sure http://sammy237.deviantart.com/
 

 

 

Can you give us a link to his youtube page?

 

 

Sure thing: https://www.youtube....1OkY25yOYAm7tnw

[TouKen4Life3g]

Holy snap, I feel like a war is happening right now with that interview, I feel like its forced when I read it...contradictions everywhere

Ask your friends. I'm witnessing hell zone that not even Piccolo can control.

[RyohkiFan]

Ask your friends. I'm witnessing hell zone that not even Piccolo can control.

I will but she might be sleeping xD

[TouKen4Life3g]

I will but she might be sleeping xD

Well that explains few people are calming down...sort of.

[HuskyLover]

I wouldn't be surprised if they did an AU manga one shot where they make NaruSaku happen so they can cater to the Ex-fans.

If they do this, I hope no one buys in to their bullsh*t

[Nar123]

Hey guys! Hope you're all doing well.

 

What's this nonsense I'm hearing about SS being planned? I'm sorry, but isn't this manga named Naruto and about Naruto's life and journey?  and is Sakura getting together with clone!Sasuke true...? Bolt calling Naruto "sh*tty old man"?!

 

It wasn't tho, and even if it was it sure doesn't look like it. The manga's name is Hinata, LOL. No, sakura + clone Sasuke is not true, Burrito is calling Naruto that indeed

[Nar123]

Holy snap, I feel like a war is happening right now with that interview, I feel like its forced when I read it...contradictions everywhere

 

Details? 

[RyohkiFan]

 
Details? 

There's tumblr and Twitter where the JP fans are going all out! Calling bs to the interview, I need to check for details lol

Edited by RyohkiFan, 06 April 2015 - 05:10 PM.

[Nar123]

There's tumblr and Twitter where the JP fans are going all out! Calling bs to the interview, I need to check for details lol

 

 

 

Damage control = causes more damage

 

Good job SP & Kikitten, stay classy you two

[Phantom_999]

Entire interview-
 
[Takeuchi](Naruto’s seiyuu) : Yes…It seems like that. For a long time ago, honestly, in the first meeting with Kishi-sensei, I was told about this ending..
[Nakamura]( Sakura’s seiyuu): It was when anime started being showed, I think it was the second meeting ?
[Sugiyama](Sasuke seiyuu): At that time, Kishi sensei already said that the endgame couple would be Sasusaku.
[Nakamura] : (About Sakura’s mature’s love) : At the beginning, Sakura just completely devoted herself to love, but when Sasuke left the village, she knew how to live for a true love.
[Sugiyama] : ( About Sasuke’s sentence : You are so damn annoying) This sentence every time being said showed a change in Sasusaku’s relationship ,so the meaning of it is very deep.At first, because of his older brother’s betrayal, Sasuke disbelieved in human, but he started considering Sakura as his comrade gradually, the meaning of the word “annoying” also has been changed from there.But really till the end, his strong will to take revenge on his older brother always remained no.1 so there was no place to love someone.
Then the reporter asked about chapter 693, right after hearing Sakura’s confession then she was stabbed unconsciously by Sasuke who used genjutsu on her, and here are some comments about that part :
Sakura’s strong love was rejected by Sasuke ( Because at that time, Sasuke had unknowned about his feelings for Sakura, and Sakura’s thought changed also, from wanting to own Sasuke to wanting him have his own happiness . See how her love for Sasuke had matured there ?). And all of the words having said by Kakashi - on behalf of Sakura, already shook Sasuke’s feelings.
Later, the reporter asked :
Reporter’s question  ® : So when you guys dubbed your own characters,were there any sence which you feel that your own characters had matured in love ?
Nakamura said that it was the scene when Kakashi said how deeply Sakura has loved Sasuke, and making Sakuke change his feelings successfully ( In other words, he showed his real feelings at that time)
[Nakamura] : A Sakura used to devote herself to love only, then she didn’t ask for a requitted love, eventually she has knowned  what is true love ( This part is about showing the change in Sakura’s love, reading chapter 693 for reference)
[Sugiyama] : I think that…Sasuke himself showed his change obviously right after his last fight against Naruto ( After all the time, Sakura has always helped and forgiven Sasuke)..This was when Sasuke realized  that he not only had loved her romantically but also he felt a love more deeply than their bonds.His feelings is so consistant.And in my opinion, it linked to the sentence “I’ll see you soon” of Sasuke afterwards.
[Takeuchi]: Now considering all of the girls that have loved Sasuke includes : Sakura, Ino and Karin, right ?
[Sugiyama] Apparently it’s correct.
[Takeuchi] Why Sasuke didn’t choose Karin ? *laughs*
[Sugiyama] I don’t know *laughs*
[Takeuchi] : Really ? I have never had that thought in my mind.
[Nakamura] : No, it’s not love, I mean that if Sasuke still cooperates with Karin as a comrade ( The meaning is remaining Taka team, because Sasuke didn’t love Karin romatically so there is no chance they can stay besides each other as lovers)
[Takeuchi] : I get what you mean. My question is that during the time from 699-700, for more than 10 years, has Sasuke been chased by girls ?
[Sugiyama] : I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case.
[Nakamura] But Sakura would definitely thinks that “I have gone that far so absolutely, I would never give Sasuke to anyone”
[Sugiyama] Plus no one can win over Sakura – the person who was madly in love with Sasuke.
[Nakamura]: I would suppose that if there is any girl tends to approach Sasuke, then Sakura would definitely says “Shannaroo” and then kick her ass right after *laughs*
[Takeuchi] : On the other hands, Sasuke is very pure when it comes to girl, and he is ashamed as well, so it seems that he wouldn’t go for the girl initiatively.
[Sugiyama] : He is so passive
[Takeuchi] : But even though Sasuke is taciturn, he still conveys his feelings precisely.His words to Sakura in chapter 699 , “I’ll see you soon, Thank you” . It’s definitely an offer of marriage.
[Nakamura] And Sakura also completely accepts that.
[Takeuchi] : Because of that then afterwards during the timeskip (more 10 years),no matter what how many girls he has met, his love for Sakura will still remain the same.
[Sugiyama] : In Sasuke, there is a sincerity and consistency like that
[Nakamura] : But let try this way, while Sakura, because of Sasuke’s words “ I’ll see you soon”, takes it as the reason to live, then when Sasuke comes back, he is surrounded by beautiful girls with long legs then how is she able to stand that ?
[Sugiyama] : That kind of thing doesn’t seem suitable for a manga which intends for 13+, right ?
[Nakamura] : This digresses from subject but among Naruto’s love stories, I like Minato&Kushina the most.
[Takeuchi] : So do I.
[Nakamura] : Kushina told Naruto to find a girl whom resembles her, but the girl that has closet personality to Kushina is definitely Sakura.
[Sugiyama]:Sakura and Kushina are always the ones who wear a pant in a relationship
[Nakamura] : So if Naruto and Hinata fight against each other, then Naruto would absolutely go to Sakura’s place for advice, ahaha
[Takeuchi] : Then Sakura will say “ You don’t know anything about a girl”
[Nakamura] : Right !
[Takeuchi] : But if it’s really like that then there is no place for Hinata …?
[Nakamura] Honestly the bond between Sakura and Naruto is more stronger than lovers’s/husband & wife’s bonds of Naruhina, plus, Hinata is Sakura’s good friend as well.
[Takeuchi]:That’s right, so if Naruhina have a fight then Hinata will also go to Sakura’s place
[Nakamura] Their bonds are like between people of a big family.
[Takeuchi] So where is the position of Sasuke ?
[Sugiyama]: Frankly Sasuke usually go travelling around the world, even his daughter also says “Shannaro” to him, so I think that he has no power in his family, hahaha ( Sugiyama means that Sasuke’s not only  afraid of his wife but also his daughter)
[Reporter] : Had Naruto gone through romantic love ?
[Takeuchi] :Nope. The only time he has gone through romantic love is in The Last

 Mature Love? Crying and begging someone to change even though they could give 2 s**t's about your feelings or words is mature love? Waiting for someone who stresses you out and breaks your heart every time you think about them is mature Love? They are talking about a one-sided affair again. Mature love is two sided. Replace Sasuke with Naruto and that spewing about mature love makes sense. Really? What is this Justification of SS? SS had no positive traits to speak of even in part I. Sasuke may have cared about Sakura then but he was still aloof and always told her to mind her own business when she tries to get him to open up, or was worried for his safety. SS did not have much if anything positive about it and this is using the same thought process as SS fans are saying that Sakura loving Sasuke is enough when that clearly isn't the case. She has to get some love back for it to be considered mature and healthy.

 

Or are the VAs saying she is a good woman for not giving up her first love too? IDK maybe this is just their way of trying to swallow the crap cause complaining about it doesn't change anything I guess. Maybe they Realise the BS they're saying but are trying to accept it cause it is reality regardless of how much better it would have been if this did not happen. 

Edited by Phantom_999, 06 April 2015 - 05:15 PM.

[Askia31]

funny thread at NF http://www.narutofor...d.php?t=1031233