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#1501 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 01:32 AM

If Tsunade dies will Sakura get even stronger or just emotional development?

It all depends. If the battle ends here with nobody else showing up, then Tsunade may hit the coffin and Sakura may get both of those development. I'm starting to realize that this volume is going to be decisive on which direction we are going, because the way I see it, it's like Juubi will be taken out and the next volume could focus on the remaining two, Madara and Obito. That is if they don't show up anymore, especially Obito. If they do get in the mix, then well, a new direction is born. If they do stay out, then we need to finish them up, which may lead to the next volume. If Tsunade and others show up at anytime, then well, they will be ok, unless something is notified. Too much direction, yet according to prediction of the elder, Naruot at some point will fight Sasuke. Yeah, I don't know where are we.



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 01:33 AM

How does one force themselves to see a blush?  :confused: You claimed that it was just a dark line when that's not the case. In fact, there are multiple lines on her face. If it were just one dark line, it wouldn't be dirt. It would likely be a scratch. A dark line is what makes up Narutos whiskers...
 
Like I said before, I don't care because it's not a big deal but what's on her face is at best debatable. Just because you feel that she's not blushing doesn't make it a fact. 
 
Anyway, agree to disagree because obviously we're gonna see that panel differently. 


Lurker here.
I think that blush thing is being over analyzed. I looked at the same panel from mangapanda vs mangastream. Now on mangapanda it looks like a dirt/scratch stain on her right cheek.where as on manga stream it looks more like a blush. Point of thinking. Maybe some sites like mangastream are messing with the art alil. Lolz.

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 01:38 AM

Lurker here.
I think that blush thing is being over analyzed. I looked at the same panel from mangapanda vs mangastream. Now on mangapanda it looks like a dirt/scratch stain on her right cheek.where as on manga stream it looks more like a blush. Point of thinking. Maybe some sites like mangastream are messing with the art alil. Lolz.

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LOL Yeah, it's really not a big deal. :D 

 

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 01:42 AM

Lurker here.
I think that blush thing is being over analyzed. I looked at the same panel from mangapanda vs mangastream. Now on mangapanda it looks like a dirt/scratch stain on her right cheek.where as on manga stream it looks more like a blush. Point of thinking. Maybe some sites like mangastream are messing with the art alil. Lolz.
Ur awesome btw.

I agree it doesn't really matter if she blushed or not she still loves Sasuke and her getting over him won't happen off panel so yeah brace yourself for more SS to come.

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 01:44 AM

Well if Sakura's Hyakugou ability does indeed grant her enhanced speed and regeneration of the same calibre as Tsunade's Byakugou it makes me wonder how she would do in a battle against either of the two depicted Raikages. One of them has been proven themselves to be capable of resisting almost every usable attack in existence. Their only weakness being a scar on their chest which they unintentionally inflicted themselves. Then you have the other who is capable of such absurd levels of mobility that not even the Sharingan can follow it; and yet he's stated to possess chakra amounts equivalent to that of a bijuu's and his durability is quite exceptional as well.

 

I'm not sure. Would Sakura be capable of defeating any of the Kages now? I know this question is diverging somewhat from the currently dicussed topic but I'm just curious on what everyone's opinion on the matter is.

 

I believe "Hyakugou" is not Sakura's ability, but is the name of her seal. She dips into the chakra reservoir to enhance her strength/speed.

 

So, what we see in this chapter is the creation of a seal, her ability to tap into three years of saved up chakra. We have not seen the release yet. Right now, there are many possibilities about Sakura's powers and how she will use it. She may have planned on using a couple of techniques once she was finished creating the seal.

 

It's unclear if Sakura right now knows Tsunade's "Byakugou no Jutsu", as Tsunade said herself that she was the only one who knows that technique. But who knows, maybe Sakura has been training to use it without her knowledge! Many predictions believe she will release Tsunade's "Byakugou".

 

I also saw a few posts calling Sakura's seal the "Yin Seal". I'm not sure how different Sakura's seal is from Tsunade. Yes, Sakura is using the seal differently from Tsunade, but I do not know if the Tsunade's seal and Sakura's are the same. I believe Tsunade's seal is the "Yin Seal" (can someone confirm this?)

 

Sakura's seal is not called the Yin seal, only "Hyakugou" from what I've seen.


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 01:56 AM

If you're relating it to that potential post then I think you likely did. :P You said something a little different then. Wish I remember what it said. 

 

Is this the post you meant...?

 

The long answer is, I think it's an interesting way to assess Naruto and Sakura's actions during her confession.

Naruto loves Sakura so much he puts his own feelings aside so she has a chance at the life she wants.
Sakura loves Naruto so much she puts her own feelings aside so he has a chance at the life he wants.

The difference lies in the feelings that are being put aside. Naruto is putting aside his feelings for her because of his feelings for her, while Sakura is putting aside her feelings for someone else because of her feelings for Naruto. It's very similar, but there's an important distinction there.

The way I see it, Naruto stopped her for several reasons. A main one being that his feelings are pure (by human standards, anyway) and they don't change. Once he's committed, he's committed -- in love, friendship, missions, whatever. I don't think he was capable of comprehending that Sakura might be willing to try giving up on a love she has held close to her heart because Naruto never would. He can't. It's not in his nature. He didn't want her to do it because for him, giving up is so wrong it's not possible. But at the time of the confession, at least, he didn't understand Sakura's conflict.

In a sense, Naruto has it easier than Sakura. His feelings are not conflicted or divided. They are all for Sakura and he hasn't been forced to make a choice between his love for her and someone else equally if not more important to him. He can love her completely and sacrificially -- as long as he can endure the pain of his unrequited love.

Sakura's feelings ARE conflicted and divided. They are not all for Sasuke or all for Naruto, but she WAS forced to make a choice between her love for one and her love for the other. At the time of the confession she wasn't able to love either of them completely, but chose to love Naruto sacrificially. In a way, Sakura has unrequited love on both sides of her equation.

The way the main love triangle has developed through the course of the story, the logical and most probable conclusion is the unchangeable Naruto's love will remain constant, Sasuke will not suddenly express feelings for Sakura that he's never had, and Sakura's confusion will resolve in favor of the man who loves her, who appears to be her true love, and in a way that strengthens her personal character.

 

I don't see how it's contradictory.  Like I said, it covers a lot of the same points, just from a different angle in light of the new information we've got in the last chapters.  :yes: 

 

LOL Of course it doesn't.  :hehehe:  :hehehe: I did the mirror shot first. So far so good though, and I KNOW you're gonna love it.  :lulz: I'm that confident.

 

I'm very much looking forward to it.  :boogie:



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 02:35 AM

 

Is this the post you meant...?

 

 

I don't see how it's contradictory.  Like I said, it covers a lot of the same points, just from a different angle in light of the new information we've got in the last chapters.  :yes:

 

 

I'm very much looking forward to it.  :boogie:

Damn.. You actually found the post i was talking about. Looks like there really was no contradiction... :sweatdrop:  I thought there might of been one you were right!  :yes:

 

You'd better! I'm putting my heart and soul into this darn picture!!  :argh:  :argh:



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 03:21 AM

Some of you are still worrying excessively over a small line on Sakura's face during the infamous "Sasuke-Kun!" panel? :sweat:



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 03:23 AM

I went back to re-read the bench scene, even though Naruto in Sasuke form said he liked her forehead and that it make him want to kiss it, he then added:

 

"That sounds like something Naruto would say."

 

I don't know but wouldn't that make that scene less impactful?

yup plus its good foreshadowing for ns imo


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 03:28 AM

Some of you are still worrying excessively over a small line on Sakura's face during the infamous "Sasuke-Kun!" panel? :sweat:

I'll admit- I'm one of them lol. But for real, on mangastream it's shown as dirt on the right cheek. Which in most cases, the line on the other cheek is also probably dirt. Unless it's possible to blush on only half your face?? lol



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 03:32 AM

I went back to re-read the bench scene, even though Naruto in Sasuke form said he liked her forehead and that it make him want to kiss it, he then added:

 

"That sounds like something Naruto would say."

 

I don't know but wouldn't that make that scene less impactful?

 

It may give that impression, but it is actually very important. After all, the point is to make clear that it was Naruto was the one who understood Sakura all along. Just imagine Naruto complimenting Sakura's forehead while saying something like: "Just like I said before: You sure have a charming forehead." Or something among the lines.

 

Considering that after this compliment, Sakura expressed the fact that she wanted to be acknowledged, she would realize that the first person who acknowledged her (besides Ino, of course), was Naruto all along.



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 03:55 AM

yeah! Neither going on SS forums, where they have practically declared that SS is canon after this chapter.

SS is my #2 ship and I really don't see where people are getting that. I'm a Sakura fan first and there needs to be some serious groveling on Sasuke's part to make everything he did ok.

I actually found Karin forgiving him that easily pretty misogynistic. :hm:


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 04:10 AM

SS is my #2 ship and I really don't see where people are getting that. I'm a Sakura fan first and there needs to be some serious groveling on Sasuke's part to make everything he did ok.

I actually found Karin forgiving him that easily pretty misogynistic. :hm:

 

Perhaps it's a facade to allow her to unsuspectingly get close to Sasuke so she can exact her vengeance against him for attempting to kill her. That is what an actual kunoichi would do, would it not? I had the same thoughts at first but when others suggested that possibility I couldn't help but think that it may be a brilliant tactic for her to use since Karin should be aware that she cannot kill Sasuke in a direct confrontation with him. Or perhaps this is just another concoction from the fanbase to try and legitimize her sudden return to Sasuke's side which appears to have no logical explanation to itself aside from the offensively salacious thoughts of a girl whom Kishi is doing a terrible job at characterizing.

 

It's one or the other. Or possibly both?


Edited by Atheck, 31 May 2013 - 04:11 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 04:17 AM

 

Perhaps it's a facade to allow her to unsuspectingly get close to Sasuke so she can exact her vengeance against him for attempting to kill her. That is what an actual kunoichi would do, would it not? I had the same thoughts at first but when others suggested that possibility I couldn't help but think that it may be a brilliant tactic for her to use since Karin should be aware that she cannot kill Sasuke in a direct confrontation with him. Or perhaps this is just another concoction from the fanbase to try and legitimize her sudden return to Sasuke's side which appears to have no logical explanation to itself aside from the offensively salacious thoughts of a girl whom Kishi is doing a terrible job at characterizing.

 

It's one or the other. Or possibly both?

apparently Sasuke is just "that" attractive lolol



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 04:20 AM

 

Perhaps it's a facade to allow her to unsuspectingly get close to Sasuke so she can exact her vengeance against him for attempting to kill her. That is what an actual kunoichi would do, would it not? I had the same thoughts at first but when others suggested that possibility I couldn't help but think that it may be a brilliant tactic for her to use since Karin should be aware that she cannot kill Sasuke in a direct confrontation with him. Or perhaps this is just another concoction from the fanbase to try and legitimize her sudden return to Sasuke's side which appears to have no logical explanation to itself aside from the offensively salacious thoughts of a girl whom Kishi is doing a terrible job at characterizing.

 

It's one or the other. Or possibly both?

While Karin plotting that would be brilliant and I would love to see it, I have significant doubts and a reinforced belief in Kishi's inability to write female characters.

Pretend Naruto into a girl for a moment and look at all she would have ben through and how she overcame it. Now look at the other female characters in the series and consider how poorly constructed and how ignored they have been they are compaired to Naruto or Bee or Sasuke or...pretty much any other male who had the limelight for a decent amount of time.

He sucks at it. Badly.

To add, the Naruto fanbase is pretty sexist in and of itself but that is a topic for another day... :argh:


Edited by Mistraal, 31 May 2013 - 04:21 AM.

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 04:20 AM

Sakura told Sasuke that she wanted to go with him and abandon Konoha. So she could get close to him and kill him, maybe Karin is doing the same I don't know.

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 04:21 AM

I'll admit- I'm one of them lol. But for real, on mangastream it's shown as dirt on the right cheek. Which in most cases, the line on the other cheek is also probably dirt. Unless it's possible to blush on only half your face?? lol

 

Even if it was blushes, it was still pretty--no, actually, not 'pretty', but very--insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

 

Especially when compared to what we got back on 631.



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 04:23 AM

Sakura told Sasuke that she wanted to go with him and abandon Konoha. So she could get close to him and kill him, maybe Karin is doing the same I don't know.

I want to know why she and other aren't there. You think this is an excuse to not have Sakura see Sasuke with a girl, because well she was knocked out before meeting her in person. Or for that matter, if they see her, won't that signal them that Sasuke was in Konoha earlier, which probably give the wrong impression for everyone to think he may have attacked the place. I'm lost.

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 04:30 AM

Yeah everyone would know that Sasuke was in Konoha if they saw Karin. Though is that the reason she's not there?

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 04:31 AM

When I go back and reread Sakura's confession, Naruto's reaction and the progression he goes through is worth reviewing now that we can see it light of the latest chapters.
It's my personal opinion that before the confession, Naruto didn't believe he had any real shot at Sakura.  I do think he held out hope, because it's his nature to prove himself and not give up, but because he loved Sakura so much he was resigned to bringing Sasuke to her feet and accepting that in doing so he might very well never win her heart himself.  
Whatever chance he thought he had, it's pretty obvious he didn't feel he deserved it UNLESS he fulfilled his promise and brought Sasuke back for her.  So he was running a big risk because, after all, he thinks the sun rises and sets by Sakura so why would he ever dream that Sasuke would reject her if Sasuke was in his right mind?
That was Naruto's mindset when she confessed:  Sakura loved Sasuke only and held no similar feelings for him, and she would never change or give up on that love because Naruto doesn't think that way.
But thanks to Sakura's determination and Sai's clarification, I think Naruto walked away from her confession with the belief that even if Sakura wasn't 100% in love with him and/or 100% out of love with Sasuke, he was at least in the game -- and with a better chance of success than he'd imagined.
So yes, I do think Naruto is "dead serious" about Sakura being his girlfriend, but he is aware that it's not a done deal.  When Minato asked him, Naruto finally made the choice to publicly admit his desires and intentions regarding Sakura -- something he had been unwilling to do before.  
That was the point of the scene, I think.  That Sakura's confession made Naruto realize he had a chance, and that plus what I said before -- that Sakura said she loved him, asked him to refuse her if he didn't feel the same way and he didn't deny it -- left them at an uncertain boyfriend/girlfriend status.
Naruto being Naruto, now that the door is open and he believes he could win her heart?  I think we're going to see him be a lot more obvious, determined, and unwilling to be sidelined from here on.
 
Just my opinion.

But thats somehow not really possible. He cant be dead serious about her beeing his girlfriend and at the same time know that she not right now. I think hes serious about meaning that hes doenst know whats really going on between them right now but the sentence he said cant be really taken serious, because if we take his words literally they mean that shes his girlfriend right now, but she isnt.

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