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[Luna]

I just want to say... I kittenin' love your signature. One of the best KO punches she's ever delivered. ^^

Thank you and I totally agree.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Thank you and I totally agree.

You know, I wonder if she fights Obito, managing to actually hit her (no need to think how), would he be protected with the wood or something? Because if none, it will hurt big time.

[shadow_Uzumaki]

A NaruHina fan told me that, had Sakura been the one to hold hands with Naruto, we would be reacting 100% differently than we are now.

Agreed, for one thing, the whole forum wouldn't be as funny as this whole weekend had been.

[Zatheko]

A NaruHina fan told me that, had Sakura been the one to hold hands with Naruto, we would be reacting 100% differently than we are now. This made me curious. How would we have reacted had it have been Sakura that held hands with Naruto? Would we have considered it a mutual moment?

To me, the difference would be that Naruto and Sakura have a different relationship than Naruto and Hinata do. In the case of Naruto and Hinata, we don't know whether or not Naruto has any feelings for her that are beyond friendship. In fact, we have to come to the conclusion that he still loves Sakura because, so far, he hasn't stated otherwise. In Naruto and Sakura's case, the person in question is Sakura. While we know that Sakura still loves Sasuke, it's also a cannon fact that Sakura's feelings for Naruto have changed.

So, is it bias to say that the same moment occurring between Naruto and Sakura would be more romantic than it was between Naruto and Hinata?

Well one thing you have to remember is this, if this was a situation between sakura and naruto instead of hinata and naruto the biggest difference would be that it would NOT seem rushed or forced, anyone can admit that NS has had the most development so if it was indeed a romantic moment between NS the reaction would be "finally" instead of the reaction for NH which is "rushed" or "forced" because they did not before this point have as much development as NS did

[James S Cassidy]

A NaruHina fan told me that, had Sakura been the one to hold hands with Naruto, we would be reacting 100% differently than we are now. This made me curious. How would we have reacted had it have been Sakura that held hands with Naruto? Would we have considered it a mutual moment?

To me, the difference would be that Naruto and Sakura have a different relationship than Naruto and Hinata do. In the case of Naruto and Hinata, we don't know whether or not Naruto has any feelings for her that are beyond friendship. In fact, we have to come to the conclusion that he still loves Sakura because, so far, he hasn't stated otherwise. In Naruto and Sakura's case, the person in question is Sakura. While we know that Sakura still loves Sasuke, it's also a cannon fact that Sakura's feelings for Naruto have changed.

So, is it bias to say that the same moment occurring between Naruto and Sakura would be more romantic than it was between Naruto and Hinata?

I actually wouldn't be reacting to a "NaruSaku moment" I would be more reacting to "KISHI KEPT HIS PROMISE AND MADE SAKURA THE HEROINE!!!"

When I think of anime couples, I have to see reactions from both characters. I have to see what kind of reactions occur. In this the only one who reacted romantically was Hinata. Naruto wasn't thinking of how he is holding Hinata's hand. He wasn't thinking "Wow, I am holding a cute girl's hand. Cool" He was thinking about his resolve and charging up his attack. He took Hinata's hand to charge hers.

Thinking about it like that Naruto wasn't thinking about love. Only Hinata was...as usual. The whole "I won't let go of your hand" or whatever is so awkward because we don't know who said it, what context they said it, and why they said it. So I am completely shoving that aside.

I was shocked when I read the chapter. I thought it was because of the NH moment, but then after I thought about it, the NH was the least of my problems. I...WE knew that Hinata was going to get development. We can't deny this . What shocked me was what it took to give her that development. Someone close to her had to die and the main character had to lose faith so easily for it to happen. Neji's death I can understand, but Naruto losing faith like that felt so forced and out of character.

I know I keep repeating this point, but that is how much it has urked me. I just...cant believe you have to diminish the main character like that just to advance her. Okay, Neji's death was a shocker, but I'd expect him to be pissed rather than become hopeless. It would have been more acceptable if it was Sasuke who died or someone closer like Sakura or Kakashi. Neji...I mean I'd hate to diminish his death, but truth is he wasn't as close as the other three.

Plus if Sasuke died and Naruto did that and blamed himself for it, you know how much of an impact that would have made. It wouldn't have felt cheap and stupid as this one did.

Sometimes maybe we even confuse our own bias when it comes to why we hate a chapter to what we really hate about it.

And, judging by some of the non-pairing fans reactions I have seen, this reactions is normal.

Also, the NH shouldn't talk because if it was Sakura who did and not Hinata, how many of them would be saying how unromantic it was and how holding hands doesn't prove anything. How Naruto is just giving her chakra and how Sakura still loves Sasuke and blah blah blah. So NH would be guilty of the same crime.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 31 December 2012 - 03:32 AM.

[harunoanduzumaki]

T.This was literally the worst holiday ever . I cried myself to sleep on my birthday because of this chapter.i kid you not this chapter came out on my birthday. I have a twin sister, mind you, who is a rabid naruhina fan screeching down my ears about how naruhina is so cannon.
When i read this chapter i was devastated and i ran to my room and Tore down my Naruto poster because i felt betrayed beyond my wildest imagination.. I am so disappointed that many people have switched ships. mainly because I could never picture myself to doing so.
I've supported narusaku for the longest time ever. I live with the enemy which has tried to tempt me every waking moment. It's been Hell being a narusaku fan in a world of naruhina.trust me i know. But i will be damned before i jump ships. Regardless of All the hardships I've gone through I will stick to this ship. because all those years supporting this pairing cannot have been in vain. because all those years of naruto loving sakura cannot be in vain.because of all those years of development between Naruto and sakura cannot be in vain.so please my brethren: do not feel threatened and do not falter at the hands of rabid naruhina fans because beautiful things happen when people believe and hope.so let us join hands and hope because this war is not over. Because we are a strong group.because we believe that Naruto never gives up.so neither will we. \(°^°)/ keep your heads held high.

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[StriderC]

I actually wouldn't be reacting to a "NaruSaku moment" I would be more reacting to "KISHI KEPT HIS PROMISE AND MADE SAKURA THE HEROINE!!!"

When I think of anime couples, I have to see reactions from both characters. I have to see what kind of reactions occur. In this the only one who reacted romantically was Hinata. Naruto wasn't thinking of how he is holding Hinata's hand. He wasn't thinking "Wow, I am holding a cute girl's hand. Cool" He was thinking about his resolve and charging up his attack. He took Hinata's hand to charge hers.

Thinking about it like that Naruto wasn't thinking about love. Only Hinata was...as usual. The whole "I won't let go of your hand" or whatever is so awkward because we don't know who said it, what context they said it, and why they said it. So I am completely shoving that aside.

I was shocked when I read the chapter. I thought it was because of the NH moment, but then after I thought about it, the NH was the least of my problems. I...WE knew that Hinata was going to get development. We can't deny this . What shocked me was what it took to give her that development. Someone close to her had to die and the main character had to lose faith so easily for it to happen. Neji's death I can understand, but Naruto losing faith like that felt so forced and out of character.

I know I keep repeating this point, but that is how much it has urked me. I just...cant believe you have to diminish the main character like that just to advance her. Okay, Neji's death was a shocker, but I'd expect him to be pissed rather than become hopeless. It would have been more acceptable if it was Sasuke who died or someone closer like Sakura or Kakashi. Neji...I mean I'd hate to diminish his death, but truth is he wasn't as close as the other three.

Plus if Sasuke died and Naruto did that and blamed himself for it, you know how much of an impact that would have made. It wouldn't have felt cheap and stupid as this one did.

Sometimes maybe we even confuse our own bias when it comes to why we hate a chapter to what we really hate about it.

And, judging by some of the non-pairing fans reactions I have seen, this reactions is normal.

Also, the NH shouldn't talk because if it was Sakura who did and not Hinata, how many of them would be saying how unromantic it was and how holding hands doesn't prove anything. How Naruto is just giving her chakra and how Sakura still loves Sasuke and blah blah blah. So NH would be guilty of the same crime.

I always find myself nodding away with your awesome posts. Keep it up!

[Luna]

You know, I wonder if she fights Obito, managing to actually hit her (no need to think how), would he be protected with the wood or something? Because if none, it will hurt big time.

Most likely......I find Kishimoto downgrades characters too much.

[StriderC]

Most likely......I find Kishimoto downgrades characters too much.

Anyone hit by her will feel the damage. The only person who could possibly fight through that is Sasori and that was because he was a puppet. Other than that, you're gonna get hurt being hit by her.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Anyone hit by her will feel the damage. The only person who could possibly fight through that is Sasori and that was because he was a puppet. Other than that, you're gonna get hurt being hit by her.

I do believe it's a massive damage. I mean it took down a summon. That's insane. Kudos to Kishi to give her reason to damage the person without thinking "It's a one-hit KO." It will be nice to see her punch Obito. Wishful thinking.

[Luna]

I do believe it's a massive damage. I mean it took down a summon. That's insane. Kudos to Kishi to give her reason to damage the person without thinking "It's a one-hit KO." It will be nice to see her punch Obito. Wishful thinking.

Only if she was as fast as rock lee now.

[Catwho]

If you kiss your mother on the cheek, it's not romantic, If you kiss your girlfriend on the cheek, it is. It depends, but yes, I think it would be bias.

I don't think this was a romantic moment from Naruto's side, because I don't think he would've acted romantically during the war. (Especially after his friend just died!! ) If so, I would be utterly disappointed in him. Hinata however, I didn't expect more of her..I don't like her and do not hold any high expectations because of that, nor do I care.

This is a point I think is being overlooked by almost everyone on the NaruHina side - their friend just died. They're in the middle of a war. If I was in Naruto's shoes, I'd sure as heck seek out and cling to any living human comfort I could find. A friend who just gave you a much needed morale boost who is conveniently standing next to you, quietly giving strength, is a perfect opportunity.

[HalfStarStudios]

Only if she was as fast as rock lee now.

Or had Taijutsu skills on par with Kakashi. xD Obito doesn't need his MS to defeat her. His Taijutsu, Speed and Ninjutsu outclasses her. She will only get him in a surprise attack and even that is doubtful.

[kirabook]

Wasn't it mentioned before that that's her best bet in a fight against someone faster than her? Outwitting them and catching them by surprise?

[James S Cassidy]

Or had Taijutsu skills on par with Kakashi. xD Obito doesn't need his MS to defeat her. His Taijutsu, Speed and Ninjutsu outclasses her. She will only get him in a surprise attack and even that is doubtful.

To be fair, I don't think Hinata has any better of shot either. I would even go to say that if Naruto wasn't super-powering her, she wouldn't even stand a chance. Naruto himself is just on a whole class of his own. Whether this is because of his Uzumaki blood or Kurama or whatever. He probably could take on Rock Lee's speed and beat him and that would probably be just in Sage mode.

[HalfStarStudios]

To be fair, I don't think Hinata has any better of shot either. I would even go to say that if Naruto wasn't super-powering her, she wouldn't even stand a chance. Naruto himself is just on a whole class of his own. Whether this is because of his Uzumaki blood or Kurama or whatever. He probably could take on Rock Lee's speed and beat him and that would probably be just in Sage mode.

Never said Hinata had any shot lol And you would be right to say that if Naruto wasn't super powering her, she wouldn't stand a chance because she would not stand a chance.

Wasn't it mentioned before that that's her best bet in a fight against someone faster than her? Outwitting them and catching them by surprise?

Yeah but good luck doing that to someone on Obito's level. Plus the dude is pretty smart himself. Come on, we aren't really making arguments for Sakura to be fighting Obito are we?

Edited by HalfStarStudios, 31 December 2012 - 06:12 AM.

[kirabook]

No, not at all. Even if she managed to land a hit on him, I don't think Obito would go down or rather, he'd get back up after. Just something I recalled. Maybe she can get a hit on him, but I doubt she'd defeat him... and this is what I mean when I say I'm disappointed. Sakura is the heroine.... shouldn't we have the confidence that she can take on someone important? But we can't.

Edited by kirabook, 31 December 2012 - 06:21 AM.

[HalfStarStudios]

No, not at all. Even if she managed to land a hit on him, I don't think Obito would go down or rather, he'd get back up after. Just something I recalled. Maybe she can get a hit on him, but I doubt she'd defeat him... and this is what I mean when I say I'm disappointed. Sakura is the heroine.... shouldn't we have the confidence that she can take on someone important? But we can't.

Sadly, we're forced to deal with it. He would get up from the punch though. Dude tanked 2 Rasengans from KM/KM2 Naruto and a headbutt from KM2 Naruto.

[redragon88]

No, not at all. Even if she managed to land a hit on him, I don't think Obito would go down or rather, he'd get back up after. Just something I recalled. Maybe she can get a hit on him, but I doubt she'd defeat him... and this is what I mean when I say I'm disappointed. Sakura is the heroine.... shouldn't we have the confidence that she can take on someone important? But we can't.

I still remember how during the Sasori arc I actually thought that at the moment Sakura was actually more powerful than Naruto and that he would be the one needing to catch up to her.

Different times.

[James S Cassidy]

Never said Hinata had any shot lol And you would be right to say that if Naruto wasn't super powering her, she wouldn't stand a chance because she would not stand a chance.

Yeah, but you're making it sound like Sakura is weak because she wont be able to land a hit on Obito which, while true, could apply to everyone. Even Naruto couldn't land a hit on him without Kakashi's help. Just making it clear that we are on the same page on this one cause lately everyone wants to blame Sakura or Hinata or anyone calling them weak because they cant do something that no one or very few can actually do successfully.

Just trying to keep things fair.