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[Don-kun]

too way clichê..

[Gravenimage]

too way clichê..

Aside from being cliche I don't want to see Sakura as a" damsel in distress". It will be better that she gets emotional when she sees him all wounded and hurt, and while healing him she scolds him that he's not alone, that everyone will fight with him. As a romantic note I think she will tell him that she will always fight by his side.

Edited by Gravenimage, 17 June 2012 - 10:50 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

"Hey, i cant defeat naruto so instead i'll kidnap the girl he loves ( "random history" ) naruto i'll protect u with my life, naruto defeats tobi rescue sakura , the end"
clichê.

[Branden]

Romance is included in almost any story. Not everything mind you, but many different stories, romance drama always there, though it's usually only a small subplot of some kind.

With any pairing, I don't like the "meant to be" notion. A real relationship isn't like that. A real relationship is built up, worked on, sometimes the relationship even causes pain, but it's never a "Oh, you're my true sole mate, I was born just for you"

This isn't real life mind you, but even in manga and books, relationships that come out of nowhere make no sense. If you're going to have romance, build it up throughout your plot. The build up doesn't have to be there constantly, but they should at least be noted. Naruto doesn't have development with Hinata. All their important interactions are almost all life and death. They haven't done anything normal together that we have seen, nor have they spoken to each other in a normal environment.

Whatever development Naruto has had toward Hinata has never been romantic or close to that, but it seems her entire existence is to love Naruto and that's it. She's been created to be a love interest, one sided or not. She's there to make the reader wonder and question what will happen when. Her role is nothing but "Naruto's crush".

If I were an author, I probably would create a character like Hinata. Someone who is in no way related to the main events, but is always on the side keeping the readers on their toes for anything that could make them question what they believe in. The character I would create wouldn't have anything resembling a real relationship with the main character and would only think about what they can do for the person they love.

The character that would get with the main character would be the main character herself. She would know exactly what the main character is going through because she's going through the same thing and is directly involved in the events that plague them so. Their relationship wouldn't only be consistent of romance. They would probably start out as friends first before becoming a couple after some hard times, arguments, maybe even some regrets, who knows.

But back to the point, the entire existence of Hinata is drama. Romance drama. If you compare her to Sasuke, she represents no real threat when it comes to pairings honestly. Sasuke is more than romance, he has a character -a screwed up one mind you- outside of that, just like Naruto and Sakura.

Good points, though if that is true I'll be sad. I have really wanted to see Hinata prove herself worthy to be leader of the Hyuga clan but every time I see her it's just pairing related. Very disappointing. I want to like Hinata as a character but your right, she is looking more and more like pairing fodder.

My turn to question you, Branden aren't you lucky I mean are you sure you're an NS-fan?

that's irrelevant

Smh @ this. that doesn't mean shes going to end up with him. plus Kishi has made it obvious multiple times Naruto loves Sakura to. the difference is he is the main character and Sakura has shown feelings for him beyond friendship. I can see later in the manga Hinata talking with Naruto and he explains his feelings and turns her down But before he could say anything Hinata understands how close Naruto and Sakura and supports him not to give up on Sakura.

Naruto has to surpass Jiraiya and Obito in love and succeed where hes father did. This is what Kishi has layed out for him to accomplish.

I don't care what she's not going to do, I want to know what she is going to do and what her role in the series is.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

The main point is : [Sakura's feelings for Naruto might not be romantic.

the rest of it is just possible things that could happen as a result of that. and how is taking somebody's burden from them unfriendly? no friend would want to see another friend suffer or put themselves in danger.

Although, if she didn't have any romantic interest and feelings for Naruto, she would have apologized to naruto for using his feelings. She would have told him that her heart belongs to Sasuke and that he should move on. Look at how Lee reacted when Sakura confessed to Naruto. He was wailing and weeping like a child in the background. She knew Lee also is in love with her. How did she reacting to lee's crying? Nothing. If Sakura felt the same way with Naruto to, wouldn't you think Sakura would have told Naruto to find someone else and forget about her. Of course she doesn't want him to get hurt, and him sheltering the love he has for her will only inflict pain on him in the long run. Sakura doesn't want that to happen. And the way she reacted about Hinata loving Naruto, by guessing it, she wasn't smiling, which is a good thing. It only makes me wonder will there be any resentment between Sakura and Hinata in the future, if Hinata asks Naruto out.

[kirabook]

I would like Hinata to rely on her own... goal for once. All her goals are Naruto centered. It's never, "I must be stronger, to make my clan proud of me and someday rule the Hyuuga clan." or "I must get stronger, to show my father I am stronger than my sister."

It's always, "I must get stronger, so that Naruto will see me.", "I must get stronger, so that I can fight by Naruto's side.", "I must keep going and never give up, because I want to believe what Naruto believes."

It's always... Naruto. That might be fine and dandy, but that just leaves Hinata with nothing if Naruto is taken out of the picture. She's just "Someone who has a crush on Naruto." Not, "The girl that overcame her shyness and proved she can rule her clan with pride.", or, "The girl who surpassed the ones that put her down before." Her most notable feature is... her crush on Naruto. Even Lee has more character than she does.

[Gravenimage]

I would like Hinata to rely on her own... goal for once. All her goals are Naruto centered. It's never, "I must be stronger, to make my clan proud of me and someday rule the Hyuuga clan." or "I must get stronger, to show my father I am stronger than my sister."

It's always, "I must get stronger, so that Naruto will see me.", "I must get stronger, so that I can fight by Naruto's side.", "I must keep going and never give up, because I want to believe what Naruto believes."

It's always... Naruto. That might be fine and dandy, but that just leaves Hinata with nothing if Naruto is taken out of the picture. She's just "Someone who has a crush on Naruto." Not, "The girl that overcame her shyness and proved she can rule her clan with pride.", or, "The girl who surpassed the ones that put her down before." Her most notable feature is... her crush on Naruto. Even Lee has more character than she does.

You know I gave a short rant about that a long time ago (I think it was in the last debate thread check the museum section). Yeah I feel the same way that Hinata should focus in fighting in the way just like everyone else, to protect their village, their friends and families. Hinata is only fighting in the war just to protect Naruto, that's it I find that selfish. Look at Sakura she's also fighting for Naruto's sake but she's well aware what's at stake in this war, the faith of the entire shinobi world she's fighting for the reason I mentioned first. Why can't Hinata fight for everyone's sake instead of just Naruto? It's always all about him, to her he's the center of her universe and she's like a planet that's orbiting around him. If Naruto didn't existed I bet my life that she would have never decided to become a ninja, or even if she did I don't think she would have gotten far than she is now since Naruto was the one that inspired her to do better (yet Kishi hasn't shown a single thing that she has done so). That is the reason it saddens me about her character development she has potential, yet Kishi just wants to keep using her as pairing fodder for Naruto.

Edited by Gravenimage, 17 June 2012 - 11:31 PM.

[kirabook]

I was more of a lurker back then, but I might have read it. It sounds familiar.

Yes, right now, she can be seen as selfish. Compared to everyone else, she is thinking with a tunnel mind. If one of her friends are in trouble, no doubt she'd do what she can to help them, but still, why can't she focus on a macro scale rather than a micro scale?

Naruto is important... but so is your entire village, friends, family, WORLD.

Her complete Naruto focus, to me, just further shows that that is probably all Kishi had in mind for her, to make the pairings more interesting. He can develop her further, he's done it with other sub characters -save poor Ten Ten or something-, he has chosen not to all this time. He hasn't done much with her since the Chuunin exams -save her suicidal sacrifice-.

[Don-kun]

"Hey, i cant defeat naruto so instead i'll kidnap the girl he loves ( "random history" ) naruto i'll protect u with my life, naruto defeats tobi rescue sakura , the end"
clichê.

Yep I like the idea, but it seems more like a bad fanfiction.

Or maybe is my desire for Kishi to prove how much Sakura cares for Naruto in fromt of Hinata so Naruto would not have the need to tourn her down.
Hinata herself may wish him luck with Sakura

Edited by donjoseph19, 18 June 2012 - 12:38 AM.

[Paptala]

Or maybe is my desire for Kishi to prove how much Sakura cares for Naruto in fromt of Hinata so Naruto would not have the need to tourn her down.
Hinata herself may wish him luck with Sakura

I also would prefer Hinata's feelings to be handled this way as well. Hinata sees Naruto and Sakura, can see how much they love each other, and realizes that she could never have won Naruto's heart because it belonged to someone else long before she ever worked up the courage to make her feelings known. It shouldn't be a sad moment though; it should be one where Hinata finds peace with herself, and realizes that while she can continue to believe in and follow Naruto and his nindo, she needs to find her own path and beliefs in life. She has already accomplished what she originally wanted to do, which was to get Naruto's acknowledgement. This final step would be a big step towards her ultimate goal of changing herself. It would be amazing for her character and incredibly positive to have closure such as that, imo.

[Branden]

if Hinata asks Naruto out.

I still have very large doubts any dates will ever happen for any characters. If hinata were to get closer to Naruto, it would have to be some other way. And she's already confessed, so what is there next? A second confession?

[kirabook]

Well, I kinda have similar feelings as Paptala. I believe the next step will be Hinata wishing Naruto luck with his love. I don't see her taking the initiative to do anything further with Naruto unless that's what Kishi was hinting at with the "I want to hold his hand" thoughts she had.

[Dalton.T.R]

Well, I kinda have similar feelings as Paptala. I believe the next step will be Hinata wishing Naruto luck with his love. I don't see her taking the initiative to do anything further with Naruto unless that's what Kishi was hinting at with the "I want to hold his hand" thoughts she had.

That explains her words in chapter 573 perfectly...

[AzureWaters]

Well, I kinda have similar feelings as Paptala. I believe the next step will be Hinata wishing Naruto luck with his love. I don't see her taking the initiative to do anything further with Naruto unless that's what Kishi was hinting at with the "I want to hold his hand" thoughts she had.

There's really no other way to take "I'll hold your hand after the war is over." She even said she was tired of chasing after him lol.

I'm anxious to see how all of this will turn out.

[Don-kun]

But Hinata never chased Naruto, Sakura did openly chase after Sasuke but Hinata spent her life stalking the guy behind a tree.

[AzureWaters]

In her mind she has. To quote her directly,

"I've always... always been chasing after you. Even... now"

I agree with you that before this, she hasn't done much, but as of now she's actually coming off as very motivated to get what she wants (romantically). Its almost out of character for her to be this blunt or obvious.

[Don-kun]

In her mind she has. To quote her directly,

"I've always... always been chasing after you. Even... now"

I agree with you that before this, she hasn't done much, but as of now she's actually coming off as very motivated to get what she wants (romantically). Its almost out of character for her to be this blunt or obvious.

By her doing that, she would be seeing has a more selfish person, if we notice since her confession she has being depicted a little more selfish with her feelings and is like how Kirabook has described her, nothing matter to her only Naruto. Her love has changed a lot when is compered with Naruto's love for Sakura.
Those two feeling cannot be consider has equals anymore, since Naruto is willing to sacrifice his feelings for the person he loves while Hinata is determined to force Naruto to be with her regardless of how he feels about her and how he feels about Sakura.

Edited by donjoseph19, 18 June 2012 - 04:14 AM.

[kirabook]

I don't think she's trying to force her feelings on him per say, but she does probably want a straight answer or wants to be on a higher level so that Naruto can see her in a romantic light too. Sakura can be by Naruto's side. She does support him in many ways that Hinata cannot. I guess she wants to try doing that too and see if Naruto's feelings can change.

In the end if Naruto actually says no, I have no doubt that Hinata will back away.

[Don-kun]

I don't think she's trying to force her feelings on him per say, but she does probably want a straight answer or wants to be on a higher level so that Naruto can see her in a romantic light too. Sakura can be by Naruto's side. She does support him in many ways that Hinata cannot. I guess she wants to try doing that too and see if Naruto's feelings can change.

In the end if Naruto actually says no, I have no doubt that Hinata will back away.

Considering Japanese Culture, we can book down that she is not thinking about any friendly or platonic terms by saying that they will hold hands after the war.
The fact that she cares only about Naruto, that means that she doesn't care about anyone around her or how Naruto thinks or feels about her. That's why I wish for her to witness how close Naruto and Sakura really are and who is the owner of his feelings, so we can get a nice resolution with her character, by asking him to not give up on Sakura.

[kirabook]

I'm not saying her feelings aren't romantic. What I'm saying is, though she'll be trying to hold his hand, I think that mostly means she'll try to be more like Sakura in terms of supporting Naruto. Of course it'll be romantic, but she's not going to be in his face 24/7 if you know what I mean.

Maybe she'll be more forward, but I don't think she'll be... "LOVE ME BACK NOW!!!"

That said, if Hinata does become more forward with her feelings, either Naruto will officially say no, she'll give up because of some event involving Sakura and instead wish Naruto luck, or her feelings will just be forever unresolved, which probably won't happen.