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[TouKen4Life3g]

Back up is always prepared in their world.

[Gojira]

I recall some NH fans saying that NS aren't getting together because it would ruin the Tesm 7 dynamic.....for some reason

[BakeNeko-Chan]

I recall some NH fans saying that NS aren't getting together because it would ruin the Tesm 7 dynamic.....for some reason

 

I think Sasuke already ruined the "Team 7 dynamic".

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
I think Sasuke already ruined the "Team 7 dynamic".

Lol.

But seriously, that's a dumb excuse (not you).

[Otaru]

I recall some NH fans saying that NS aren't getting together because it would ruin the Tesm 7 dynamic.....for some reason

 

Really... NaruHina fans are really the best when it comes to turn over everything...

In that case, if we keep it up with this kind of crappy reasoning, then the team 7's dynamic would be ruined too if SasuSaku would be canon.

 

Hell, team 7's dynamic was about what ?

Why would NaruSaku ruin it ? On the contrary, I think NaruSaku is the solution to save team 7's dynamic that is sick.

 

The first time we saw Team 7 together, Sakura hated Naruto without even knowing him, loved Sasuke because he was soooo damn cool and good looking, Naruto didn't like Sasuke that much and loved Sakura with all his heart, and Sasuke didn't care of anything but himself.

 

They evolved together.

 

Sasuke was harsh to Sakura, and began to understand Naruto's feelings to be without parents.

It was him that made Sakura change a little toward Naruto.

It was him that initiate that change.

 

Because of what he said harshly to her, Sakura started to be more gentle with Naruto.

 

And then she saw him for the first time.

How he really was.

 

I think the deep dynamic have always been the same since the beginning.

Sasuke would be the first NaruSaku supporter IMO.

 

Hell he was the one that told her that Naruto did risked his life to save her.

 

I totally see him in the future supporting Naruto to be with Sakura.

 

If Naruto would go for Hinata now, it would negate 90% of the manga, when he loved Sakura so deeply. It would be an enormous nonsense. THAT would kill the kittening manga dynamic.

 

You know about NaruHina fandom, I don't want to bash but... you know they said the CPR and M to M was a "consolation price" for us. But... what if the consolation price was the hand holding ? LOL

I personally think it was a MUST DO for Kishimoto because otherwise, the fandom would have exploded of rage when he would make NaruSaku canon. They would have say that Hinata didn't has her chance at least, that Naruto didn't know she loved him that much... and so on.

Hinata was supposed to HAVE HER CHANCE with Naruto.

As a writer, it was really a must do for him. Hinata has confessed her feelings. She even get a chance to touch his face, rehyped his nindo, she hold his hand, Naruto acknowledged her. But he doesn't love her. And I think he will never love her. His heart is all dedicated to Sakura, and it will always be likewise IMO.

 

Even after everything she has done, Naruto still doesn't love Hinata.

 

Naruto said to his dad that Sakura is more or less his girlfriend.

 

He would have never told that if it was a joke. It's not a joke as many NaruHina fans are saying.

 

The whole thing with Hinata... THIS is the consolation price.

Edited by Otaru, 03 March 2014 - 08:28 PM.

[luffyq1]

I can't help but wonder about the following thing: If NH fans claim that NH is canon because of hand holding scene, I wonder what all things we should claim from that CPR incident XD

The cpr and hand holding both had meaning to it.

 

For the hand holding is was just for Naruto to transfer his chakra.

 

For the cpr it was to keep Naruto alive.

 

While most NS fans don't use that as evidence in their arguments, I've only seen them use it as nothing but eye candy, myself included. But the hand holding scene is used as evidence by majority of the NH fans which it shouldn't. I remember when  615 came out and pretty much everyone lost their minds. But slextrem made a video and analysed the crap outta 615 and pipe some folks down lol.

[Inferno180]

The cpr and hand holding both had meaning to it.
 
For the hand holding is was just for Naruto to transfer his chakra.
 
For the cpr it was to keep Naruto alive.
 
While most NS fans don't use that as evidence in their arguments, I've only seen them use it as nothing but eye candy, myself included. But the hand holding scene is used as evidence by majority of the NH fans which it shouldn't. I remember when  615 came out and pretty much everyone lost their minds. But slextrem made a video and analysed the crap outta 615 and pipe some folks down lol.

To many fans who love nh to death and/or hate ns, it's a matter of they love 469 and take only the dialouge for what it is, not Sakura's reason for lying, totally ignoring her aspect for it as sai told naruto. They take hinatas confession and 615 as a while though because it's what they like to see. They say kushinas foreshadow is a joke or not important despite most likely along with other nh fans, they once followed it. Some say 631 is a joke but yet nothing has been linked to hinata. They love the confession saying naruto will move onto hinata despite no evidence saying he actually gave up on sakura. Many of those same fans say sakura is basically glued to Sasuke despite SS having even less if a foundation.

And those fans who hate ns, it's the same ordeal, they hated sakura for her actions in the land of iron despite trying to make amends from what sai said. They hate how she simply has more screentime than hinata, they ignore or don't realize what her personality as a tsundere is, they don't like how 631 occurred with what naruto and minato said, they hated how sakura went to aid naruto in the recent events rather than her going to Sasuke, more than anything they hated how hinata was left behind.

It's just many fans who hoped for nh and against ns, it hasn't turned out that way and well it's the reason we have had events ranging from nh is canon to when 631 caused meltdowns of rage towards naruto, minato, and Kishi. It seemed like 663 did that on a smaller scale but now we have some people saying the CPR is a big deal both ways when a good portion of the fandom missed the stuff there that really mattered, what sakura said about narutos dream as the ns moment, not the cpr.

[TyranntX]

If the manga is targeted at young men and women and it's not meant to be complicated. Then why are a lot of the fans convinced that NH will be the end pairing? Even when there is absolutely no signs for NH happening.

 

Many people like more unrealistic parings over the more obvious ones. I however Am one of those people who can spot NS hints as early as Chapter 1. I am a die hard NS fan and will guard it for every

[Dalton.T.R]

There is one thing that's been bothering me. Apparently, there's an interview where Kishi actually said he won't end the manga with NaruSaku. A lot of the...'neutral' fans have said this. Any thoughts on this?

[sushi.]

For the hand holding is was just for Naruto to transfer his chakra.

Sometimes I feel like the only NS fan who disagree with this. Naruto's purpose was to transfer his chakra, and to help her get up. But there is a message behind it, it symbolizes something. The chapter is titled 'connected'. Hinata and Naruto may have connected over Neji's death, but I don't think that's the real message here. It signifies that all shinobi are united on that battlefield, and that if they stand together they will win. That was what the speech was about, and the handholding really put Hinata's words into action. Just because she was the only one holding hands with him doesn't mean they were the only ones being connected. That is why their moment isn't really as private as many think, in my opinion. 615 was a set-up chapter, the following one supports what I am saying here. There was no epic NH soulmates combo as many predicted, no in 616 everybody unites and attacks successfully.

 

At most, the NH in 615 has a romantic gesture, since there was no romantic intent by the either of the characters. But I think the moment fits the description above better.

 

PS, TyranntX: Sakura was introduced in chapter 3.

[Transformers03]

 

Many people like more unrealistic parings over the more obvious ones. I however Am one of those people who can spot NS hints as early as Chapter 1. I am a die hard NS fan and will guard it for every

 

That's weird, considering Sakura didn't make her first appearance until chapter 3.

 

There is one thing that's been bothering me. Apparently, there's an interview where Kishi actually said he won't end the manga with NaruSaku. A lot of the...'neutral' fans have said this. Any thoughts on this?

 

Where's the link to the interview?

Also, if the interview existed, we all probably would have known about it.

Secondly, if it is true than Kishi is worst at writing romances than previous thought. Of course he never planned the series to even have readers think that NS maybe a possibility, that is why he gave them the most development and had several CONFIRMED parallels between the two that all focused about love...

[Transformers03]

For the hand holding is was just for Naruto to transfer his chakra.

Sometimes I feel like the only NS fan who disagree with this. Naruto's purpose was to transfer his chakra, and to help her get up. But there is a message behind it, it symbolizes something. The chapter is titled 'connected'. Hinata and Naruto may have connected over Neji's death, but I don't think that's the real message here. It signifies that all shinobi are united on that battlefield, and that if they stand together they will win. That was what the speech was about, and the handholding really put Hinata's words into action. Just because she was the only one holding hands with him doesn't mean they were the only ones being connected. That is why their moment isn't really as private as many think, in my opinion. 615 was a set-up chapter, the following one supports what I am saying here. There was no epic NH soulmates combo as many predicted, no in 616 everybody unites and attacks successfully.

 

At most, the NH in 615 has a romantic gesture, since there was no romantic intent by the either of the characters. But I think the moment fits the description above better.

 

PS, TyranntX: Sakura was introduced in chapter 3.

 

No, I also feel like there is some symbology to it. Your theory certainly makes sense, but to be honest, I don't know what Kishi was going for, especially what happened in 632.

 

However, if the handholding scene has some sort of symbology to it, than I am sure that the CPR does too. Even though I personally didn't see it romantically, there could definitely be something more to that scene as well. I am sure that Kishi wouldn't have put the CPR scene without considering the can of worms he may open by putting that scene in, soooo....

[Nostradamus]

 

Many people like more unrealistic parings over the more obvious ones. I however Am one of those people who can spot NS hints as early as Chapter 1. I am a die hard NS fan and will guard it for every

Yeah but there is a difference between liking a pairing and then telling everyone else that pairing is going to happen because you like it and the writer showing that another pairing is going to happen.

[TyranntX]

Sometimes I feel like the only NS fan who disagree with this. Naruto's purpose was to transfer his chakra, and to help her get up. But there is a message behind it, it symbolizes something. The chapter is titled 'connected'. Hinata and Naruto may have connected over Neji's death, but I don't think that's the real message here. It signifies that all shinobi are united on that battlefield, and that if they stand together they will win. That was what the speech was about, and the handholding really put Hinata's words into action. Just because she was the only one holding hands with him doesn't mean they were the only ones being connected. That is why their moment isn't really as private as many think, in my opinion. 615 was a set-up chapter, the following one supports what I am saying here. There was no epic NH soulmates combo as many predicted, no in 616 everybody unites and attacks successfully.

 

At most, the NH in 615 has a romantic gesture, since there was no romantic intent by the either of the characters. But I think the moment fits the description above better.

 

PS, TyranntX: Sakura was introduced in chapter 3.

 

in the manga, you can clearly see her in the shirt of a giant toad in the cover page of chapter 1. and in the anime she is seen in the first episode, and introduces her self.

Edited by TyranntX, 03 March 2014 - 11:53 PM.

[Hiraishin]

Sometimes I feel like the only NS fan who disagree with this. Naruto's purpose was to transfer his chakra, and to help her get up. But there is a message behind it, it symbolizes something. The chapter is titled 'connected'. Hinata and Naruto may have connected over Neji's death, but I don't think that's the real message here. It signifies that all shinobi are united on that battlefield, and that if they stand together they will win. That was what the speech was about, and the handholding really put Hinata's words into action. Just because she was the only one holding hands with him doesn't mean they were the only ones being connected. That is why their moment isn't really as private as many think, in my opinion. 615 was a set-up chapter, the following one supports what I am saying here. There was no epic NH soulmates combo as many predicted, no in 616 everybody unites and attacks successfully.
 
At most, the NH in 615 has a romantic gesture, since there was no romantic intent by the either of the characters. But I think the moment fits the description above better.
 
PS, TyranntX: Sakura was introduced in chapter 3.

Yeah, I admit that the handhold is more than just chakra transfer, but it definitely doesn't have the meaning that NH fans think it has.

 
That's weird, considering Sakura didn't make her first appearance until chapter 3.
 
 
Where's the link to the interview?
Also, if the interview existed, we all probably would have known about it.
Secondly, if it is true than Kishi is worst at writing romances than previous thought. Of course he never planned the series to even have readers think that NS maybe a possibility, that is why he gave them the most development and had several CONFIRMED parallels between the two that all focused about love...

It's not true. Don't believe it when people say there's interviews like that. The most Kishi has said in that regard is that he may make at least one love required.

[Gojira]

What I still hate is the fact that during the love letter scene there was absolutely no implication that she saw Naruto as a possibility

 

I think that the scene should have been done so that it was left ambigious because it makes all the scenes where she has shown interest in naruto and make them confusing (saying she hates being only able to do small things for him, offering to feed him at one point etc.) 

[Nostradamus]

What I still hate is the fact that during the love letter scene there was absolutely no implication that she saw Naruto as a possibility

Good. If Sakura was thinking about Naruto then it would've been game over. And that would be stupid.

[TouKen4Life3g]

What I still hate is the fact that during the love letter scene there was absolutely no implication that she saw Naruto as a possibility

 

I think that the scene should have been done so that it was left ambigious because it makes all the scenes where she has shown interest in naruto and make them confusing (saying she hates being only able to do small things for him, offering to feed him at one point etc.) 

Well the reason behind it is to establish the downfall of SS. It could have left ambiguous if the guy never said the last line. Then again, what would have been a purpose?

[Gojira]

Good. If Sakura was thinking about Naruto then it would've been game over. And that would be stupid.

I'm saying that at the very least it could be left ambiguous

 

on a separate note I like the subtle NS hint in chapter 538

 

http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/538/11

 

Also technically speaking this was already game over when Kushina asked him to find a girl just like her.

Edited by Pepsi, 04 March 2014 - 12:01 AM.

[sushi.]

 

in the manga, you can clearly see her in the shirt of a giant toad in the over page of chapter 1. and in the anime she is seen in the first episode, and introduces her self.

Anime doesn't count. What you are saying here is that you predicted NS based on the first cover. :v

No, I also feel like there is some symbology to it. Your theory certainly makes sense, but to be honest, I don't know what Kishi was going for, especially what happened in 632.

 

However, if the handholding scene has some sort of symbology to it, than I am sure that the CPR does too. Even though I personally didn't see it romantically, there could definitely be something more to that scene as well. I am sure that Kishi wouldn't have put the CPR scene without considering the can of worms he may open by putting that scene in, soooo....

I see the argument everywhere. It's weird. I don't believe the CPR and the handholding can be compared thou. What could the CPR symbolize? At best, Kishi may have grabbed the opportunity to make NS lock lips. She was just trying to save his life, but it's a work of fiction so the scene was not really necessary.