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#15161 Akashi

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 06:36 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Apr 3 2013, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They will always will come with an excuse i dont care let their butthurt flow though.




He only said about Jiraiya's letter and he even stated that Jiraiya forced him to read his works which obviously had 0 cultural gain.

Here.
He noticed something that Shikamaru and that decipher girl couldn't figure out.. Yeah, he read his books but he was paying attention that number 9 and katakana for "ta" looked familiar in Jiraya's handwriting... an idiot wouldn't notice.. maybe you'd want to re-read the manga.

It's not only about the SS and NH fangirls/fanboys... I wouldn't be satisfied with Sasuke's death too... I want Sakura to choose Naruto in front of Sasuke's eyes.

Edited by Tauriel, 03 April 2013 - 06:37 PM.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 06:37 PM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Apr 3 2013, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well looking at Hashirama as Kishi portrayed him in the last few chapters you can tell that he wasn't the brightest shinobi too. But that didn't stop him from creating the first hidden village of shinobi & becoming the first kage in history...

@NaruSaku4Life3g The fight will definitely take place.. I'm a bit worried about "we will both die" part though.. But Naruto's death doesn't make any sense..

I think that comment is made to have Naruto/Sakura talk to each other in a very drama moment. It's setup that way and when the time comes, it could be the breaking point of NaruSaku.

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ Apr 3 2013, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed. Naruto has to affect Sasuke somehow in their final fight because then it would seem like all this I'm going to find a way to end all the violence and Naruto's promise of a lifetime to Sakura will seem like nothing. Was that a mass effect reference with the trigger comment. Mass Effect= Easily one of the best game series ever. I was pissed when in Mass effect 3 Miranda couldn't be a squadmate. Back to Naruto, the other thing is until Kishi develops Sakura further, we know that she still cares for Sasuke and if Naruto kills him before she gets over Sasuke, there could be problems.

Yeah, that was the reference. laugh.gif

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Apr 3 2013, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
SS and NH fans would say that NS happened only because Sasuke died. dry.gif

Well how about the moment when he helped Shikamaru to decipher the note Jiraya left him?

Well not unless Sakura falls in love 100% with Naruto before the final battle. But I don't think he will die. I do question, who was Minato's assistant? Not sure what position was Shikamaru's dad in, but perhaps that's where Shikamaru will be in.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 06:43 PM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Apr 3 2013, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here.
He noticed something that Shikamaru and that decipher girl couldn't figure out.. Yeah, he read his books but he was paying attention that number 9 and katakana for "ta" looked familiar in Jiraya's handwriting... an idiot wouldn't notice.. maybe you'd want to re-read the manga.

It's not only about the SS and NH fangirls/fanboys... I wouldn't be satisfied with Sasuke's death too... I want Sakura to choose Naruto in front of Sasuke's eyes.

He would be more far than an idiot if he didnt noticed Naruto give them an info not a resolution to their problem look here, and the reason why he was bought up was because he could know something that they dont know like "writing stlye", "caligraphy" etc...

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Also i want to Sakura to choose Naruto before or after doesnt matter because it's genuine and she has development to do so, also i dont want her doing it in front of Sasuke's eyes, it's a moment between two people, it's just has to be Naruto and Sakura and no one else.
Just look at the holding hands scene, Naruto hold Hinata's hand but meanwhile he was thinking about Neji and talking with Kyuubi, i dont recall Sakura hugging Naruto and thinking about Sasuke and/or talking with someome else.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 April 2013 - 06:46 PM.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 06:49 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Apr 3 2013, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He would be more far than an idiot if he didnt noticed Naruto give them an info not a resolution to their problem look here, and the reason why he was bought up was because he could know something that they dont know like "writing stlye", "caligraphy" etc...

http://z.mfcdn.net/s...mpressed/13.jpg

Also i want to Sakura to choose Naruto before or after doesnt matter because it's genuine and she has development to do so, also i dont want her doing it in front of Sasuke's eyes, it's a moment between two people, it's just has to be Naruto and Sakura and no one else.
Just look at the holding hands scene, Naruto hold Hinata's hand but meanwhile he was thinking about Neji and talking with Kyuubi, i dont recall Sakura hugging Naruto and thinking about Sasuke and/or talking with someome else.

Not too mention that Hinata was smiling when Sakura hugged Naruto, whereas Sakura did not look happy when Hinata held Naruto's hand. I'm just happy that this flashback is finally through. Now we can see where Kishimoto wants to take this war and whether Sasuke will destroy the village.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 06:53 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Apr 3 2013, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He would be more far than an idiot if he didnt noticed Naruto give them an info not a resolution to their problem look here, and the reason why he was bought up was because he could know something that they dont know like "writing stlye", "caligraphy" etc...

http://z.mfcdn.net/s...mpressed/13.jpg

Also i want to Sakura to choose Naruto before or after doesnt matter because it's genuine and she has development to do so, also i dont want her doing it in front of Sasuke's eyes, it's a moment between two people, it's just has to be Naruto and Sakura and no one else.
Just look at the holding hands scene, Naruto hold Hinata's hand but meanwhile he was thinking about Neji and talking with Kyuubi, i dont recall Sakura hugging Naruto and thinking about Sasuke and/or talking with someome else.

Okay, fine... think anything you want of Naruto and other characters. I'm not here to convince people what characters are. Although if you re-read manga carefully, you'll see that he's not that stupid. He just acts like an idiot sometimes (Jiraya did too..).

Well, to each his own is all I can say... Hinata and Naruto holding hands has nothing to do with romance btw.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 06:57 PM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Apr 3 2013, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay, fine... think anything you want of Naruto and other characters. I'm not here to convince people what characters are. Although if you re-read manga carefully, you'll see that he's not that stupid. He just acts like an idiot sometimes (Jiraya did too..).

Well, to each his own is all I can say... Hinata and Naruto holding hands has nothing to do with romance btw.

I don't think he's that stupid, but he will need someone to check on him, which Sakura is best. Let's not forget Tsunade even fell asleep in her job. So Naruto can do that and more. It could be a good comedy for people to think who's the real Hokage: Naruto or Sakura. Comedy of course. tongue.gif

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 07:00 PM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Apr 3 2013, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay, fine... think anything you want of Naruto and other characters. I'm not here to convince people what characters are. Although if you re-read manga carefully, you'll see that he's not that stupid. He just acts like an idiot sometimes (Jiraya did too..).

Well, to each his own is all I can say... Hinata and Naruto holding hands has nothing to do with romance btw.

I think it's my fault that i didnt explained the extent of Naruto's lack of intelligence.
Example on the chapter you provided Naruto give them that instead of "ta" it's an "9" but could not figure out the message which was "the real one is not among them", Sakura is more intelligent than Naruto.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 April 2013 - 07:01 PM.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 07:05 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Apr 3 2013, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it's my fault that i didnt explained the extent of Naruto's lack of intelligence.
Example on the chapter you provided Naruto give them that instead of "ta" it's an "9" but could not figure out the message which was "the real one is not among them", Sakura is more intelligent than Naruto.

I never said he was smarter that Sakura. mellow.gif
Anyway this discussion is going nowhere.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 08:21 PM

Hmm Sakura choosing Naruto without the influence ofn Sasuke would mean it would have to be done before the fight, privatly.

Dunno if this is really possible or likely sweatdrop.gif

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:00 PM

Off Topic: Does anyone here have experience debating some guy called Aim64C?

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:32 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 3 2013, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Off Topic: Does anyone here have experience debating some guy called Aim64C?

Nope.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:43 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Apr 3 2013, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nope.

Why? smile.gif

Damn. Just wanted to gauge how good of a debater he is, as he supposedly has a reputation for being "undefeatable."
We're in the process of a NH vs NS discussion, with him having written one post and me having responded to that post thus far. He's been looking at the thread for almost an hour now, and I have the creeping feeling that he's concocting some LAP to completely demolish me.

I'm actually physically nervous for his response, to the point where I can't even concentrate on my HW. shamefulcry0js.gif

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:44 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 3 2013, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Damn. Just wanted to gauge how good of a debater he is, as he supposedly has a reputation for being "undefeatable."
We're in the process of a NH vs NS discussion, with him having written one post and me having responded to that post thus far. He's been looking at the thread for almost an hour now, and I have the creeping feeling that he's concocting some LAP to completely demolish me.

I'm actually physically nervous for his response, to the point where I can't even concentrate on my HW. shamefulcry0js.gif

Oh, this should be good.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:45 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 3 2013, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Damn. Just wanted to gauge how good of a debater he is, as he supposedly has a reputation for being "undefeatable."
We're in the process of a NH vs NS discussion, with him having written one post and me having responded to that post thus far. He's been looking at the thread for almost an hour now, and I have the creeping feeling that he's concocting some LAP to completely demolish me.

I'm actually physically nervous for his response, to the point where I can't even concentrate on my HW. shamefulcry0js.gif


Just send RomanceGirl to him kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:51 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Apr 3 2013, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just send RomanceGirl to him kruemelmonsteryn0.gif


D/w i'll just call chuck norris up. That will make all his arguments invalid. biggrin.gif



Yeah.... you better be scared NH fans rolleyes.gif

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:52 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 3 2013, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Damn. Just wanted to gauge how good of a debater he is, as he supposedly has a reputation for being "undefeatable."
We're in the process of a NH vs NS discussion, with him having written one post and me having responded to that post thus far. He's been looking at the thread for almost an hour now, and I have the creeping feeling that he's concocting some LAP to completely demolish me.

I'm actually physically nervous for his response, to the point where I can't even concentrate on my HW. shamefulcry0js.gif

How can a NH debather be undefeatable, that simple not possible. NH just doesnt have the logic and story buildup, not to mention hinatas screentime.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:53 PM

No one is undefeatable. Oh, I can't wait to see it though.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:57 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 3 2013, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Damn. Just wanted to gauge how good of a debater he is, as he supposedly has a reputation for being "undefeatable."
We're in the process of a NH vs NS discussion, with him having written one post and me having responded to that post thus far. He's been looking at the thread for almost an hour now, and I have the creeping feeling that he's concocting some LAP to completely demolish me.

I'm actually physically nervous for his response, to the point where I can't even concentrate on my HW. shamefulcry0js.gif

That's probably a self-proclaimed title. Don't be nervous. At the end of the day, all he has is opinion. It's the same with every debater. No matter how many arguments he has "crushed" in the past, he can't predict the future of the manga. If you need help, you always have this forum to fall back on. happy.gif

I googled his username and a NaruHina fanfiction came up. Here's a snippet:

"But she got me." Naruto interrupted, "Read me like a book. She knew how alone and inadequate I felt…. I … I didn't even know there was someone out there who understood…. She was always part of the background – like the wall… but now I can't help but see her – to think about her. She stands out, now, everywhere." Hinata's heart beat strong and deep. She couldn't believe what she was hearing… well, she could; but it was like a dream.

It doesn't really tell you how he is as a debater, but it does show you where his standing was after the Pain arc.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:09 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Apr 3 2013, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's probably a self-proclaimed title. Don't be nervous. At the end of the day, all he has is opinion. It's the same with every debater. No matter how many arguments he has "crushed" in the past, he can't predict the future of the manga. If you need help, you always have this forum to fall back on. happy.gif

I googled his username and a NaruHina fanfiction came up. Here's a snippet:

"But she got me." Naruto interrupted, "Read me like a book. She knew how alone and inadequate I felt…. I … I didn't even know there was someone out there who understood…. She was always part of the background – like the wall… but now I can't help but see her – to think about her. She stands out, now, everywhere." Hinata's heart beat strong and deep. She couldn't believe what she was hearing… well, she could; but it was like a dream.

It doesn't really tell you how he is as a debater, but it does show you where his standing was after the Pain arc.


sleep.gif I feel like some people give her too much credit... LOL

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:19 PM

One of Sakura's main themes is about going through the journey of understanding love, and to be simple Naruto=good love while Sasuke=bad love.

That doesn't mean she should hate Sasuke but to understand that what she seeks from him is not what she truly desires. Ino herself brought up that concept when she sarcastically referred to her feelings for Sasuke as a "positive love". Even Ino understands that what she feels for Sasuke is not a good thing and that she should grow for the better, it's just that it might take some time for it. At least that's the impression I got.

I think Sakura attempted to grow out of that negative love through her confession to Naruto, but since that was mixed with giving up on rescuing Sasuke it didn't develop the way it should've. I think at the very least Sakura understand that her feelings for Naurto are more than just simple friendship, therefore believes it can grow into love which is in part a reason she confessed. At the same time she accepts that her love for Sasuke still exist but understands that it's not a positive feeling and something she needs to overcome.




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