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#15061 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 05:42 AM

What is SK? :confused:

 

 

South Korea.

There you go.

 

But seriously, it's SasuKarin.



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 05:55 AM

 

 

There you go.

 

But seriously, it's SasuKarin.

Thank you haha l thought people were talking about Sakura and Kakashi when they said SK, haha. Thanks again :)


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Posted 27 February 2014 - 06:04 AM

Thank you haha l thought people were talking about Sakura and Kakashi when they said SK, haha. Thanks again :)

Lol no problem. Well, that's another story. Nothing against it, just not the one I mention.



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 08:20 AM

Update edition question!

Your status for NS, SS, NH, and introducing SK.

New choice: black. It means done aka dead.

So, tell me your status on these pairings today.

 

NS: Green.
 
NH: Black.
 
SS: Black.
 
SK: Not sure but I'll give it 80%.



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 09:55 AM

 

 

There you go.

 

But seriously, it's SasuKarin.

Ah man i thought it was Sasuke and Kakashi.


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Posted 27 February 2014 - 10:01 AM

Update edition question!

Your status for NS, SS, NH, and introducing SK.

New choice: black. It means done aka dead.

So, tell me your status on these pairings today.

Nice question XD

 

NS: Green.

 

NH: Black from the beginning.

 

SS: Black from the beginning.

 

SK: Yellowish.



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 10:46 AM

Hmm...let me see.
Ns: official pairing..definitely.
Nh: naruto part, dead.
Ss: well, sasuke part, dead.
Sk: unknown..idk.
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Posted 27 February 2014 - 02:20 PM

 

It's been a while since someone has written such a thoughtful, in-depth post on Sakura's confession so thank you for that.  (Thanks to RomanceGirl, too!)

 

One of the things I love about the way Kishimoto wrote it is that it resists definitive analysis, and continues to be something for fans to reflect upon and question as new information surfaces.  I don't know if he planned for it to be as complex as it turned out, but it's really a thing of beauty in that it moves the pairing forward and yet it doesn't.

 

I agree with what you said, particularly about Sakura's honesty.  Not only did Kishimoto go on record as saying she was an honest girl, but his reaction to fans not understanding her or her motives underscores his intention to characterize her as perhaps stumbling and uncertain and artless, but honest nevertheless.

 

Likewise, I've said this before but by her own thoughts and words -- immediately after Sai's revelation of Naruto's love for her and Shikamaru's insistence that the time had come to confront Sasuke's lawlessness -- she recognized that she had been thinking wrong, and vowed not to make any more mistakes.

 

Why would a girl who believed she had been "getting it wrong" and was determined not to screw up then turn around and immediately go to Naruto and lie to his face?  Why would she say she loved him in front of witnesses, and place his welfare above Sasuke's or even her own, if she didn't mean it?

 

In truth, I find comfort in the discomfort of her confession.  As she said, it's not easy for a girl to confess her love.  It wouldn't be easy to do for anyone, especially under those circumstances, and she felt compelled to tell Naruto things that didn't make her look good and left her vulnerable -- i.e., admitting she had been stupid about Sasuke, and that she finally woke up and chose Naruto.

 

How would anyone say that -- especially in front of other people?  She had to expose herself to criticism and disbelief that her change of heart was real and true.  There was no other way to do it. 

 

And, as you said, Naruto was not only still stuck in the past in terms of accepting that things could and had changed, but he was sorely lacking in sensitivity in his reaction.  He hasn't had an easy time of it, considering he grew up without much in the way of expressed love, tenderness, or feeling as if he could possibly be at the center of anyone's heart.  But it was Kishimoto's way, I believe, of showing Naruto's own issues and immaturity, and it was remarkably effective.

 

Oh so true! I periodically think about other little things surrounding the confession, then like a blip on the radar, they disappear! lol! But your point is one I've hit on before too. 

 

Why would she resolve not to make another mistake, then go out and intentionally lie? It absolutely doesn't make sense. 

 

And in front of other people, too! If she were going there to lie to Naruto, she would have tugged him off to some corner and whispered her plea, so that she could potentially get what she wanted yet not be held accountable for her words. Nope, she did it in front of her two senseis, Lee, Kiba and Sai. People who she esteems and who know her very well. Why would she publicly embarrass herself when she didn't have to? 

 

I think, in the moment, her heart carried away her plan. She certainly went there to confess her feelings for a reason — to protect him — but that shouldn't tarnish her feelings. I think she was rash and acting from the heart — she was behaving more like Naruto in that moment than Sakura.

 

And yeah, I like the idea of Kishimoto using the moment to show the cracks in Naruto's self-esteem, his own immaturity and issues.  

 

It's a tricky little plot point. It ticks a lot of boxes for a lot of characters, and it can be interpreted different ways by different readers/shippers. I can't decide if it was haphazardly vague dialogue or carefully constructed smoke and mirrors — and I guess we won't know until part 2 of the confession: the resolution!



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 04:25 PM

There is one thing that i have always find it interesting in her confession and that is why did Kishi left out the beginning of it ? Why didn't he showed  to us the first time that Sakura said I Love you to Naruto why was that moment cut of from the confession ? It reminds me of all the other NS moments that were cut of and that there is something more to come from it , this also tells me that her confession is bound to be revisited . Any opinions on this one ?


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Posted 27 February 2014 - 05:29 PM

Update edition question!

Your status for NS, SS, NH, and introducing SK.

New choice: black. It means done aka dead.

So, tell me your status on these pairings today.


Alright Here I Go X) Lol

NS: YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! XD

NH: To Be Honest I Want It To End In An Nice, Peaceful and subtle Way. I Used To Be Kind Of A NH Fan Back Then......Mostly Because That Was The Only Pairing I Knew Of Back Then That Had Fan Art. Then I Thought Of NS And Said What The Heck And Looked At It And Was Never The Same Since Then >XD lol. I Just Wanna See Naruto Give A Proper Rejection To Hinata For Her Confession is all :).

SS: Like Some Of The Fanart, But The More I Look Into It The More It Gives Me A Bad Feeling In My Chest!!! Cause I Knew That Pairing Was Just Turning More Wrong And Wrong As Time Passec By.

SK: I'm Actually Ok With It!!! Don't Ask Me Why Or How That's Gonna Work Out, its Just When I See This Pairing It "Clicks" in My Head Saying That It Just Works!! That's all I Got To Say About That lol X)

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 07:45 PM

Well some people have been really really offended by Madara in that he never thought to strike down Sakura, many people are wishing he did but he didn't.

 

Others are saying Sakura should have used chiyos technique though she didnt.

 

After this chapter, I sadly saw a new form of sakura bashing that just became, hilariously funny.

 

I know while these chapters have been good for us, some fans who dont like NS have made some new claims that the reaction to the recovery from sakura won't mean anything now or in the future, even if its a hug. I mean one person here did post how there was one fan wishing Sakura suffocated from fear of madara, but its just literally to me in some ways, its like how could we as NS fans ever expected events like this? I mean 631 has its place in history for this pairing war as does 450, but the situation of narutos recovery and sakura being the girl to help him, its like this coming scene with her reaction to his recovery has actually caused some fears in the fandom that this aspect of nearly losing him will do something new on her and make her gravitate towards naruto. I'm serious, some fans are fearing the recovery scene. While its not going to be anything extraordinary like the hug was, the best we can hope for is a hug and sakura saying something like i was worried i lost you or something along those lines, some fans are fearing the possiblity of sakura sacrificing herself for naruto was the last chance of NH. While Neji could still appear if naruto has some limbo event like Gaara did in his recovery, its not like there's others to do more there. Heck some fans are scared that Obito may have a reminder of himself and rin when he saw Rin's death. Literally this is the closest we can get to a sakura rin paralell but if there is any mention of something about caring or romance in the slightest in some way between naruto and sakura or by the potential parallelism, that can be game set and match, stuff like that wouldn't be put in, especially when this parallelism was one of the antagonists central reasons for committing his dark actions until now. Its like if there is some link between when he saw rin herself dead compared to  what he did to save naruto as what rin would have wanted instead of the eye of the moon plan, if fans really try to argue against this, would they be saying its like obito no longer loves rin despite the fact it was her death that acted as an instigating reason for his turn to the darkness? Next chapter, should we get Sakura's reaction to naruto's recovery, it could be something minor most likely with a hug, but otherwise it could be something that starts a catalyst development for her.

 

Seriously, in this time since may last year, we got sakura with naruto most of the time but otherwise also with the likes of minato and now obito. Really if Obito makes some likeness to rin on sakura, how much more overkill would it be if it keeps getting shown? I mean Obito is good now, he isn't going to strike sakura, black zetsu is the trapped one now, really I think the chance of NH just dropped even more this chapter. With Hinata still lying face down in the dirt, what can honestly happen at this point to incur NH as canon especially after all this? As I said before, the situation of naruto's recovery, as its about to end, his comeback should be the end of this volume as expected, it would be no suprise if in the last chapter he is standing again, otherwise recuperating a bit while sakura heals him before he goes to battle, I mean she needs to stich his chest up and patch him up before he goes, its like he got shocked back to life, he may have 1 more chapter before going back to battle just to rest for a tiny bit like in 630 to 631. But seriously its like this has just been good, I mean Sasuke is going to need some attention but this has been a really good volume and its the early part of the year too. I mean last year it was all fighting against obito, then we got madara recking everything and now sakura has gotten some attention which has been nice. But hey it remains true, when we get these big situations and sakuras involved, it makes the series good.



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 08:14 PM

Update edition question!

Your status for NS, SS, NH, and introducing SK.

New choice: black. It means done aka dead.

So, tell me your status on these pairings today.

 

NS: almost canon

NH: dead

SS: dead

SK: Don't care. Either way I'm cool.


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Posted 27 February 2014 - 08:19 PM

@PacificWater20 I agree with you all the way! I'm also an aspiring writer and my main genre is romance, I knew NaruSaku would be together and not just because I'm writer all writers are different, but from the relationship build up, the character build up, the chemistry they have it's all too much just to have them end up with someone different. I'd definitely be disappointed! :wallbash:  


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Posted 27 February 2014 - 08:59 PM

I can see it now. I have a gut feeling about it. NS WILL become canon.


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Posted 27 February 2014 - 09:16 PM

NS: 100% YES!!!

NH: BLACK ALL WAY DEAD -_-

SS: NEVER WAS FOND OF THIS PAIRING AND IT'S DEAD

SK: I WOULD LIKE SASUKE TO BE HAPPY SO IF IT'S KARIN I'LL ACCEPT IT


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Posted 27 February 2014 - 09:27 PM

I don't think the answers are supposed to be based on your personal opinion. Therefore it doesn't matter how much you don't care or dislike it. ;P I just see a lot of the answers here are like this.


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Posted 27 February 2014 - 10:09 PM

NS: Green

SS: Red

NH: Orange

SK: Eh, I'll go yellow, it exists but I see this as the open ended pairing that can only occur once sasukes demons are gone.



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 10:24 PM

I really like the answers you guys provided. Agree or not, it's nice to see the status and I know few has changed over a year. It's crazy that it's been a year since that moment that caused a stir in here alas 615.



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 10:33 PM

I really like the answers you guys provided. Agree or not, it's nice to see the status and I know few has changed over a year. It's crazy that it's been a year since that moment that caused a stir in here alas 615.

Yeah, I remember Sasuke and Sakura also held hands in the FoD, chuunin exams. No one claimed canon then. :excited: I didn't, probably because I read it in a marathon. I think the NH handholding happened in a similar context, that is a much closer comparison than the ShikaNaru joke.


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Posted 27 February 2014 - 10:43 PM

Yeah, I remember Sasuke and Sakura also held hands in the FoD, chuunin exams. No one claimed canon then. :excited: I didn't, probably because I read it in a marathon. I think the NH handholding happened in a similar context, that is a much closer comparison than the ShikaNaru joke.

I didn't remember that moment until someone brought it up. Oddly enough, it was other anime/manga that helped me think that the scene can go two ways, which in the end, chose to be unification. It goes to show you that you need the atmosphere to determine the direction you're going with it.




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