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Posted 27 November 2014 - 01:38 PM

btw, someone has been brave to seed the anime today? it was about hyuuga sisters' relationship, if I recall it well... :pimp:

i saw the preview... it actually looks cute. i would just watch it for Hanabi


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Posted 27 November 2014 - 01:44 PM

it seems that there were 2 different preview: One of 30 minutes which Kishimoto and VAs attented and one with full movie. The girl that has translated ladygt's after war went to the preview of full movie, it seems...

 

in any case.... tbh, spoilers dont look good for us. Hopes are pretty at death's door. There is a logic here: if the chapter 700 shows NH hints, and the entire movie is based on NH, the question is then: If it would be all a genjutsu, how they would develop NS at the end of the movie with - who knows - how many final minutes are left out?
If the movie runs 110 minnutes and NH lasts 100 minutes, it would remain only the final 10 minutes to develop NS. Totally out of logic. And I believe honestly that no one cannot be pleased for a such choice.

If you are saying this because of that girl's claiming, then we don't have to believe it

it was announced a preview and all the people that went are supossed to sign a contract. the thing they revealed was that it was a 30 min video

why would kishimoto and VAs attend to the 30 min preview when they can to the full movie..."preview"

if you don't have official information, then I won't believe it


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Posted 27 November 2014 - 01:45 PM

I still can't buy this

There is definitely something wrong!!!

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 02:04 PM

There's no way NS will happen now. It's over, don't bring your hopes up for nothing. Just sit back, relax and enjoy this turd of a movie. I doubt the majority of the fandom will look upon it favourably.

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 02:08 PM

There's no way NS will happen now. It's over, don't bring your hopes up for nothing. Just sit back, relax and enjoy this turd of a movie. I doubt the majority of the fandom will look upon it favourably.

I didn't say that I was hoping for something. I saying that I don't believe that girl saw the entire movie when it's confirmed that it was a 30 min long.

 

And it's forbbiden to say to give up to someone. Rules by tricksie. Just saying.


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Posted 27 November 2014 - 02:13 PM

Its forbbiden to say to give up to someone. Rules by tricksie. Just saying.


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Posted 27 November 2014 - 02:33 PM

Hi, sorry for butting in. So this movie really is going to be completely NaruHina right? But what about Sasuke? Is it really true he only has a couple of lines?

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 02:48 PM

Hi, sorry for butting in. So this movie really is going to be completely NaruHina right? But what about Sasuke? Is it really true he only has a couple of lines?

I don't know if I believe that one. I remember someone here posting something stating which characters would have the biggest roles, it was Team 7 plus Hinata. But if its true I wouldn't be surprised.

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 03:12 PM

Why did it have to end this way? Why?! I can make fun of the sheer craziness of the ending, I can blame Kishimoto, I can mock SP and everyone who had a hand in this but it doesn't really help. Its been weeks since the ending but I still get a feeling of sadness whenever I think of this series. I guess I really really loved the series and all the characters a lot. 

 

Why Kishimoto? Why did you write this manga in a way that made so many of us become this attached to the characters only to wreck everything in the very end? How could you destroy your own characters?!


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Posted 27 November 2014 - 03:34 PM

i'll still support the old series, the old NaruSaku, the old Naruto that smiled, and acted goofy all the time, the one who in part one had the nindo to never go back on his word, never give up, his ninja way, the one that loved sakura from his heart unconditionally. not the one who now acts similar to part 1 sasuke.

 

and the sakura who became emotional whenever she was concerned about naruto, the one who hugged him in the pain arc, the one who refused to leave him behinde in the 4-tails arc, the one who gave him the "kiss of life"[CPR] in chapter 663. not the one who acts like karin uzumaki...the sasuke-kuuun fangirl.

 

it's sad they've turned hinata into sakura [why not just give sakura the freaking role!], but, i hope sasuke don't become the new naruto.i still wonder how its gonna end in the movie though, i have semi-hopes.

 

i wont have them so low that i act emo lol. but, i wont have them so high some would wonder if i really am on something lol. i'll just wait untill dec 6th to see the spoilers online because i support the characters we ALL know, loved, and grew up with. these in 699-700/the last aren't them.

 

happy thanksgiving :). i'm thankful we all have great fanfic writers, fan artists', doujinshi writers that still believe in NaruSaku...Heaven, And Earth!



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Posted 27 November 2014 - 03:53 PM

i'll still support the old series, the old NaruSaku, the old Naruto that smiled, and acted goofy all the time, the one who in part one had the nindo to never go back on his word, never give up, his ninja way, the one that loved sakura from his heart unconditionally. not the one who now acts similar to part 1 sasuke.

 

and the sakura who became emotional whenever she was concerned about naruto, the one who hugged him in the pain arc, the one who refused to leave him behinde in the 4-tails arc, the one who gave him the "kiss of life"[CPR] in chapter 663. not the one who acts like karin uzumaki...the sasuke-kuuun fangirl.

 

it's sad they've turned hinata into sakura [why not just give sakura the freaking role!], but, i hope sasuke don't become the new naruto.i still wonder how its gonna end in the movie though, i have semi-hopes.

 

i wont have them so low that i act emo lol. but, i wont have them so high some would wonder if i really am on something lol. i'll just wait untill dec 6th to see the spoilers online because i support the characters we ALL know, loved, and grew up with. these in 699-700/the last aren't them.

 

happy thanksgiving :). i'm thankful we all have great fanfic writers, fan artists', doujinshi writers that still believe in NaruSaku...Heaven, And Earth!

 

 

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 04:03 PM

Why did it have to end this way? Why?! I can make fun of the sheer craziness of the ending, I can blame Kishimoto, I can mock SP and everyone who had a hand in this but it doesn't really help. Its been weeks since the ending but I still get a feeling of sadness whenever I think of this series. I guess I really really loved the series and all the characters a lot. 

 

Why Kishimoto? Why did you write this manga in a way that made so many of us become this attached to the characters only to wreck everything in the very end? How could you destroy your own characters?!

To be honest, the world may never know what exactly happen down there. The movie really don't feel like it was always planned or even connect to the main story. You only got that Hinata loves Naruto and everything else is brand new, which begs the question, why not have it in the beginning to the end of your own work. No matter what, those don't have to be romance at first. It can be character developments for them, but instead it comes off as a brand new yet highly questionable scenario. In movies or other series, these moments are there to be friendly terms because it's all about the buildup, then when they're both close to each other, depending on the situation, it will bring them together to something more.

 

Here, it comes off the way how Cinderella works: see her and you feel fated. Like if it's true about fangirls, then that's really off from Cinderella. Except Cinderella has a different target while this movie has the target of the fans, and it would seem like it will fail to deliver. People will go there and buy, but the aftermath won't be long. It's like what I said before. I go to the Avengers movie and after that, I feel like I want to read the comics for the first time. Here, I feel like nothing will occur. It's come and go.

 

The main problem with this movie is that it's based on a series, a series with already established characters. If the target audience is the fans, then trouble can ensue. Again, SasuSaku fans are now enraged against their fellow friends. That's not what you want to do. Don't be surprised if the first week is great at box office but next week won't. Internet is a small world but can be a large at a great rate, and all it takes is one person. The premiere can weakened the hype to the fans in a small to large doses. Say you would have gotten 5 millions on day one. Now with these leaks, you lose that. Lastly, remember the talk of embargo? If I recall correctly, there wasn't really any with RtN. Perhaps they learned the effect from it. It was a big deal. Now, they want no one to know, especially the massive disappointment of Sasuke not being there for a minute.

 

The person who went to see the movie and translated ladygt's work come off saying, "Not into love, this movie isn't for you. I rather have manga do the work," so in other words, you got to be a fan of that. To me, I see it as a problem, because RtN didn't require me to like NaruSaku, it didn't require me to like Minato and Kushina, it only require me to like the series. That's it. And I enjoyed it a lot because it feels connected and you feel the actual developments and struggles of our main characters, especially Naruto. In here, it's coming off as "Oh I got an easy jackpot, so all I really need to do is to love her." No struggle. No, I don't count her being kidnapped. It has to be genuine and it has to be a standalone reason, like other movies that they love each other because real developments from the beginning but then with both of them not knowing what's going on, such as one is villain or one tried to one of them, they already have a situation and it's that they need to realize that they fallen in love with each other. So yeah, maybe I'm too smart for this.

 

Don Bluth has done great movies in the 80s, though sadly, 90s seems to be where he declined pretty bad. In fact, they believe he wasn't the same after a death of a very close person. Now, people starts to wonder for Kishi. Keep in mind, Kishi's dad past away around the same time chapter 662 releases. No joke. Chapter 663 was already done, but releases later. After that, the series never hit the right peak. Now again, this is just assumption, but it does happen. I mean it does sound reasonable because the art wasn't the same as before, the story starts to show a lot of inconsistency, plot holes, asspulls more often than ever, which says a lot, and worst of all, feeling empty handed by the end. Is it true? Again, it's only a assumption. I even heard story that Kishi didn't feel comfortable at the premiere according to one person, with pictures.

 

If only we know the true story behind everything. It's clear that something have went wrong and it really feels like everything never truly got concluded the way it needed to be. But the damage is done and the fandom were outrage to the point they burn the stuff. It did much worse than any other series did because this wrecked the characters, the most important aspect of a story, wrecked the theme, also important, wrecked the story, and wrecked the feeling of satisfactions. And that's why fanfic exist.


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Posted 27 November 2014 - 04:06 PM

You know I was thinking about this for a couple hours after I finished RTN. One thing i remember is that throughout most of the movie you see Sakura in Naruto's place and you get Naruto in Sakura's place for the parents part. I mean the two got to understand how the other one felt, and that's what I felt and loved about the movie. Not to mention the message in Road To Ninja  is something I think anyone can relate to.

 

 

Based on everything we're getting for The Last, I don't feel like there's a message with this one. I think it would be cool if we had a RTN affect with The Last.  I think it would be cool if this movie dealt with a bond between sisters when it comes to Hinata and Hanabi.   


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Posted 27 November 2014 - 04:14 PM

You know I was thinking about this for a couple hours after I finished RTN. One thing i remember is that throughout most of the movie you see Sakura in Naruto's place and you get Naruto in Sakura's place for the parents part. I mean the two got to understand how the other one felt, and that's what I felt and loved about the movie. Not to mention the message in Road To Ninja  is something I think anyone can relate to.

 

 

Based on everything we're getting for The Last, I don't feel like there's a message with this one. I think it would be cool if we had a RTN affect with The Last.  I think it would be cool if this movie dealt with a bond between sisters when it comes to Hinata and Hanabi.   

I agreed. So much. There's no lesson coming from this. Even for the villain. Misunderstanding and done. Done that over millions of times. And if the lesson is for Hinata, then it will make your main characters look bad. They should be the one to get a moral. I haven't seen Frozen but I heard from my friends did this message on love much better. Not only that, but Sakura is coming off sexist, which is baffling and disheartening at the same time.

 

I should watch that movie...

 

P.S. I can't like anymore.


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Posted 27 November 2014 - 04:18 PM

Goddamit this guy ... 

 

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I want to belive him so hard!  :argh:


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Posted 27 November 2014 - 04:19 PM

If the movie runs 110 minnutes and NH lasts 100 minutes, it would remain only the final 10 minutes to develop NS. Totally out of logic. And I believe honestly that no one cannot be pleased for a such choice.

Not exactly, because all Naruto has to do is confess. Remember Naruto and Sakura have 15 years of development. That's 7889231 minutes according to Google.

7889231 minutes is a lot more than 110 minutes.


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Posted 27 November 2014 - 04:19 PM

Goddamit this guy ... 

 

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I want to belive him so hard!  :argh:

Be careful with him. He claims that Mr. T is his source...


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Posted 27 November 2014 - 04:23 PM

Be careful with him. He claims that Mr. T is his source...

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 04:24 PM

Be careful with him. He claims that Mr. T is his source...

 

@bootsu didn't say "Sakura will end up with the one who has always been there for her", unless he tallked with her via PM on twitter.

geez, this guy is a such troll.


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Posted 27 November 2014 - 04:26 PM

Isn't the lesson of the movie obvious? If you love someone very much, always wait for years on end for someone to kidnap you while also hoping whoever he loves falls for someone else, preferably a douche, and after all that, you'll finally live happily ever after. 

I mean come on guys, I think it makes 100% sense (lol)


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