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[TyranntX]

I'm sorry but.... what dose any of this have to do with NS?

[Miiami]

Somehow I have a feeling that in next chapter yet again we're going to see Obito and Madara talk, if my guts are right I'm going to be mad.I want to see who's foot it is(most highly,very very likely Kabuto's):

Because this panel pretty much shows it

[KeikoxYusuke]

All feet look the same in this manga,how does that foot look like kabuto? It's a foot....that's all we know for now...

[Miiami]

All feet look the same in this manga,how does that foot look like kabuto? It's a foot....that's all we know for now...

Who else is without shoes?:) Some think "new character" is going to appear but that would be asspull and wouldn't make much sense. And Kabuto, well Kabuto is now going to meet with Orochimaru and some new conflicts are going to start most likely.

[redragon88]

@kster95 @reddragon88 really appreciated your reply . Now, guys I may sound anti NS now, but I just want to negate any possibility that leads to SS. I read Sakura's confession to Naruto and the afterfacts by Sai. He was going on n on saying Sakura does this cuz she LOVES Sasuke, Sakura does that cuz she LOVES Sasuke. Even during the confession she seemed to be comparing Naruto and Sasuke which certainly is bad. And Naruto's flashbacks took me into more concern. How do you guys view this confession as a contribution to NS and she is still clinging to Sasuke, isn't she?

 

Sai wasn't saying that Sakura was doing all of this because of Sasuke, it was already established that Naruto was her motivation to take action. What Sai explained was that Sakura would be able to go through with the murder plan because she loves Sasuke enough to kill him. Naruto said that Sakura couldn't do such a thing since she loves Sasuke, then Sai responded that she could do it precisely because she loves him.

 

Sakura wasn't ready to resolve her feelings back then, but the circumstances forced her to make a choice.The confession wasn't some demonstration about how Sakura will forever love Sasuke instead of Naruto, the confession was the unfortunate result of being forced to make the most necessary choice, even if it leaves feelings unfinished.

[sushi.]

@kster95 @reddragon88 really appreciated your reply . Now, guys I may sound anti NS now, but I just want to negate any possibility that leads to SS. I read Sakura's confession to Naruto and the afterfacts by Sai. He was going on n on saying Sakura does this cuz she LOVES Sasuke, Sakura does that cuz she LOVES Sasuke. Even during the confession she seemed to be comparing Naruto and Sasuke which certainly is bad. And Naruto's flashbacks took me into more concern. How do you guys view this confession as a contribution to NS and she is still clinging to Sasuke, isn't she?

I agree with reddragon, and I don't think she did it for Sasuke. She may have wanted to get rid of the darkness for his sake, but that is just a speculation from Sai. Sakura didn't tell him that, she only told him she did it for Naruto. But I think she did it for everyone actually, mostly Naruto though. :3

[Hanabi]

@narusaku256 you can try reading this tumblr link, it's quite interesting on how her confession is like a reverse version of the promise of the lifetime, where both of them think for each other, and their facial expressions (trying to hold their sad feelings inside for the other person)

[Inferno180]

So if anyone remembers how last week the fake spoiler for 665 was called sakura and kushina, though it didn't happen, what if this week the chapter was called sakura and rin, I mean if that similar context from the fake spoiler occured but from obitos view, then what would you make of that?

[Miiami]

So if anyone remembers how last week the fake spoiler for 665 was called sakura and kushina, though it didn't happen, what if this week the chapter was called sakura and rin, I mean if that similar context from the fake spoiler occured but from obitos view, then what would you make of that?

I highly doubt it, he is not even looking at Sakura, he is dealing with Madara, and when you look at his and hers distance it's pretty big, I kind of think Obito is going to finally die in next chapter (I hope so,no more rin flashbacks plz). I had enough of Obito, I liked his child version, but current Obito is...

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Sai wasn't saying that Sakura was doing all of this because of Sasuke, it was already established that Naruto was her motivation to take action. What Sai explained was that Sakura would be able to go through with the murder plan because she loves Sasuke enough to kill him. Naruto said that Sakura couldn't do such a thing since she loves Sasuke, then Sai responded that she could do it precisely because she loves him.
 
Sakura wasn't ready to resolve her feelings back then, but the circumstances forced her to make a choice.The confession wasn't some demonstration about how Sakura will forever love Sasuke instead of Naruto, the confession was the unfortunate result of being forced to make the most necessary choice, even if it leaves feelings unfinished.

I think it's not complicated and Sakura's actions nullify Sai's words.
Sai started expressing he didnt knew much about what she was going to do, in short it was a guess an it worked as a device to prevent Naruto from realizing she was doing all that for his sake.

The reality is that Sakura was going to kill Sasuke because of Naruto, it was stabilished that she wanted to take off that burden she unintentionally forced upon Naruto even if she had to make difficult decisions.
In the end she could not kill Sasuke because she loved him and she expresses that shortly before Sasuke is going to kill her, it's simple.

I just dont agree with "she loves him enough to kill him" it's bullsh** to me(sorry for the wording) it doesnt make sense at all.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 25 February 2014 - 07:37 PM.

[narusaku256]

@hanabi thank you for suggesting that blog. It did have some good insights
@reddragon88 @sushi @darkrerst Are you guys saying that the reason Sakura could come to kill Sasuke was because of her love and the reason fr doing this was freeing Naruto frm burden? Then at the end of the day it was all Naruto for her, wasen't he? So is it safe to assume that she loved or to be more precise 'clinged' on to Sasuke and she had not yet discovered her feelings for Naruto and she cared for Naruto more than Sasuke? If it follows this way then her confession was partly true paving way for NS rather than slamming it, right?

[BakeNeko-Chan]

I think it's not complicated and Sakura's actions nullify Sai's words.
Sai started expressing he didnt knew much about what she was going to do, in short it was a guess an it worked as a device to prevent Naruto from realizing she was doing all that for his sake.

The reality is that Sakura was going to kill Sasuke because of Naruto, it was stabilished that she wanted to take off that burden she unintentionally forced upon Naruto even if she had to make difficult decisions.
In the end she could not kill Sasuke because she loved him and she expresses that shortly before Sasuke is going to kill her, it's simple.

I just dont agree with "she loves him enough to kill him" it's bullsh** to me(sorry for the wording) it doesnt make sense at all.

 

I don't agree with it either, the whole statement is just nonsensical. Who loves someone enough to kill them?  The reason Sakura went to kill Sasuke was because she thought at the time that it was what needed to be done and in the end, she couldn't follow through with it because of her feelings for Sasuke. So saying she "loves him enough to kill him" just seems like a huge contradiction.

 

@hanabi thank you for suggesting that blog. It did have some good insights
@reddragon88 @sushi @darkrerst Are you guys saying that the reason Sakura could come to kill Sasuke was because of her love and the reason fr doing this was freeing Naruto frm burden? Then at the end of the day it was all Naruto for her, wasen't he? So is it safe to assume that she loved or to be more precise 'clinged' on to Sasuke and she had not yet discovered her feelings for Naruto and she cared for Naruto more than Sasuke? If it follows this way then her confession was partly true paving way for NS rather than slamming it, right?

 

I think the only thing Sakura actually lied about in her confession, whether intentionally or not, was that she no longer felt anything for Sasuke, and that was also the point when Naruto grew suspicious of her intentions. In my opinion, the confession was meant to show that Sakura was willing to give up Sasuke, despite her feelings, in exchange for Naruto's safety. So regardless of whether she was truly 'in love' with Naruto or not at that time, it shows very explicitly who was more important to her then, and who is more important to her now.

[luffyq1]

She didn't want to see the guy she love becoming even more damaged than he already is so she made the decision of putting him down like a rabid dog.

[FireFox]

 

I don't agree with it either, the whole statement is just nonsensical. Who loves someone enough to kill them?  The reason Sakura went to kill Sasuke was because she thought at the time that it was what needed to be done and in the end, she couldn't follow through with it because of her feelings for Sasuke. So saying she "loves him enough to kill him" just seems like a huge contradiction.

 

 

I think the only thing Sakura actually lied about in her confession, whether intentionally or not, was that she no longer felt anything for Sasuke, and that was also the point when Naruto grew suspicious of her intentions. In my opinion, the confession was meant to show that Sakura was willing to give up Sasuke, despite her feelings, in exchange for Naruto's safety. So regardless of whether she was truly 'in love' with Naruto or not at that time, it shows very explicitly who was more important to her then, and who is more important to her now.

Yes but i have also heard many fans said that the fact that she didn't give up on Sasuke  and that in the end her feelings for Sasuke were more important than Naruto's safety or she would have killed Sasuke if Naruto's safety was so much important to her .

 

But for me that whole confession arc is just one big contradiction i still don't know what to think of it , also  "she wants to kill him because she loves him but she can't because she loves him "      all of that to me just says how much she doesn't love him at all and that she's confused as hell . I really don't know what was Kishi thinking when he made all of this , I have heard that even the Japanese audience criticize him for the way he made Sakura's confesion and actions in this arc i guess it was that bad . 

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 25 February 2014 - 11:00 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

She didn't want to see the guy she love becoming even more damaged than he already is so she made the decision of putting him down like a rabid dog.

That's the contradiction once she arrived she didnt went to kill Sasuke, her actions during the meeting was like from someome who was evaluating her decision to kill him, so in fact she in a way wasnt believing that Sasuke become a criminal she was doing all that merely to lift Naruto's burden after Sasuke ordered Sakura to kill Karin is when she woke up and realized that Sasuke is a criminal and took the decision to kill him.
But she could not kill him because of her feelings.

The contradiction is because she admitted she could not kill Sasuke and she knew about it, therefore the statement "she loves Sasuke enough to kill him" is nullified because if it was true she would already arrived at the scene with the intention of killing Sasuke.

*Goes to read the new To Love Ru Darkness chapter*

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 26 February 2014 - 12:11 AM.

[redragon88]

I just dont agree with "she loves him enough to kill him" it's bullsh** to me(sorry for the wording) it doesnt make sense at all.

 

I don't agree with it either, the whole statement is just nonsensical. Who loves someone enough to kill them?  The reason Sakura went to kill Sasuke was because she thought at the time that it was what needed to be done and in the end, she couldn't follow through with it because of her feelings for Sasuke. So saying she "loves him enough to kill him" just seems like a huge contradiction.

 

Why do you find it weird? It's a pretty common trope:

 

http://tvtropes.org/...lTheOnesYouLove

 

Sakura tried to fulfill this trope, but since she stopped at the last minute it became subverted.

 

Sai said pretty much that because Sakura loves Sasuke that she was prepared to do whatever it took to save him from the darkness, even if it meant to kill him.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Why do you find it weird? It's a pretty common trope:
 
http://tvtropes.org/...lTheOnesYouLove
 
Sakura tried to fulfill this trope, but since she stopped at the last minute it became subverted.
 
Sai said pretty much that because Sakura loves Sasuke that she was prepared to do whatever it took to save him from the darkness, even if it meant to kill him.

This trope depends on the situation.
Sakura's case is different because it had other reasoning behind the fact Sasuke had to be killed.
Because she took the decision not to correct wrong doings of Sasuke but to fix her own mistakes regarding her wrong thinking that she was only bringing pain to Naruto.
If you read closely Sakura's state of mind when she departed is that she alongside Sasuke were the ones who were hurting Naruto the most.
She didnt just wanted to kill Sasuke but also wanted Naruto to hate her that's why she put her teammates to sleep to take the blame by herself.

To the trope you pointed above to be true she would have went to fight Sasuke alongside her teammates and deal the final blow.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 26 February 2014 - 12:28 AM.

[luffyq1]

That's the contradiction once she arrived she didnt went to kill Sasuke, her actions during the meeting was like from someome who was evaluating her decision to kill him, so in fact she in a way wasnt believing that Sasuke become a criminal she was doing all that merely to lift Naruto's burden after Sasuke ordered Sakura to kill Karin is when she woke up and realized that Sasuke is a criminal and took the decision to kill him.
But she could not kill him because of her feelings.

The contradiction is because she admitted she could not kill Sasuke and she knew about it, therefore the statement "she loves Sasuke enough to kill him" is nullified because if it was true she would already arrived at the scene with the intention of killing Sasuke.

*Goes to read the new To Love Ru Darkness chapter*

Huh? Her resolve to Kill Sasuke crumbled when her memories of him ran in her head. So yeah, her claim and her actions were contradictory, for the reason I said.

Edited by luffyq1, 26 February 2014 - 12:40 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Huh? Her resolve to Kill Sasuke crumbled when her memories of him ran in her head. So yeah, her claim and her actions were contradictory, for the reason I said.

She said i knew it.
The contradiction is simple, if she wanted to kill Sasuke to save him like you claim she would had a strong resolve in order to do this but she was faltering on the moment she saw him and even doubting if he was really evil until he asked her to kill Karin.
It doesnt come from someome who wanted to kill Sasuke merely to save him.

She wanted to kill Sasuke for the reasons i pointed on my previous post, to fix her own mistakes and because of her mindset that she thought that she only bought pain to Naruto so she wanted to kill Sasuke and made Naruto hate her to fix her mistakes.
She was sacrificing herself for Naruto not the other way around.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 26 February 2014 - 01:03 AM.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

 

 

Why do you find it weird? It's a pretty common trope:

 

http://tvtropes.org/...lTheOnesYouLove

 

Sakura tried to fulfill this trope, but since she stopped at the last minute it became subverted.

 

Sai said pretty much that because Sakura loves Sasuke that she was prepared to do whatever it took to save him from the darkness, even if it meant to kill him.

 

I'm not talking about a trope though, just the statement itself. The idea of loving someone enough to kill them is what makes no sense to me. It seems to me that if someone a person loved had fallen into 'darkness', they would want to search for any possibility and alternative to avoid killing them. Killing Sasuke, in my opinion, wouldn't be saving him from anything, but the people his actions would have ended up hurting.

Edited by BakeNeko-Chan, 26 February 2014 - 12:56 AM.