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[Greed-Sama]

let's bring up a new topic.


how do we know Sakura and Naruto's love won't turn out to be friendly rather than romantic. that would explain all of the development between those 2, and it would make hinata's love for naruto have a meaning, rather than being pointless. it would so mean that if sasuke turned good again he could be with sakura, and nobody gets left out. besides sub characters, but really who cares about their romance? this theory has some decent arguments for it, so I thought I'd bring it here.

What now? Seriously? That's an argument?

So let's pair people up so no one feels left out! That's a ridiculous statement and I find authors who do that to be poor writers, which I guess would fit right in with what Kishi has been showing me lately.

This "argument" entails that the only thing preventing Sasuke from being with his waifu Sakura is his alignment in the Force. He has to come back to the Light Side before he gets her. A) That's not how love works. B) If Sakura's love for Naruto was friendship then her confession was the unfriendliest thing to do. Ever. It means she's simply a manipulator who was trying to use Naruto's obvious feeling for her as a ploy to get him to stop the chase. Sakura is not like that.

[Jake]

let's bring up a new topic.


how do we know Sakura and Naruto's love won't turn out to be friendly rather than romantic. that would explain all of the development between those 2, and it would make hinata's love for naruto have a meaning, rather than being pointless. it would so mean that if sasuke turned good again he could be with sakura, and nobody gets left out. besides sub characters, but really who cares about their romance? this theory has some decent arguments for it, so I thought I'd bring it here.

We don't know for sure only Kishi knows the outcome and seeing how this is and Shonen manga the main character is most likely to end up with the tsundere heroine, but there is a chance of NaruHina and SasuSaku happening and there is a chance that there will be no cannon pairings it just (to me) looks like NaruSaku is the most likely, of couse even if it wasn't I'd still support it.

EDIT: @Greed: I couldn't agree more.

Edited by Jake, 17 June 2012 - 07:16 AM.

[Branden]

What now? Seriously? That's an argument?

So let's pair people up so no one feels left out! That's a ridiculous statement and I find authors who do that to be poor writers, which I guess would fit right in with what Kishi has been showing me lately.

This "argument" entails that the only thing preventing Sasuke from being with his waifu Sakura is his alignment in the Force. He has to come back to the Light Side before he gets her. A) That's not how love works. B) If Sakura's love for Naruto was friendship then her confession was the unfriendliest thing to do. Ever. It means she's simply a manipulator who was trying to use Naruto's obvious feeling for her as a ploy to get him to stop the chase. Sakura is not like that.

The main point is : Sakura's feelings for Naruto might not be romantic.

the rest of it is just possible things that could happen as a result of that. and how is taking somebody's burden from them unfriendly? no friend would want to see another friend suffer or put themselves in danger.

[Soul]

One thing: Friends don't blush around each other and flirt. Which Naruto and Sakura does.

[Branden]

One thing: Friends don't blush around each other and flirt. Which Naruto and Sakura does.

At least you provide evidence rather then raging like some people do. I can respect you for that.

[Soul]

At least you provide evidence rather then raging like some people do. I can respect you for that.

I respect you too Branden. Because you're not like the same fans that follows people without thinking or taking a moment to think. But you, It took you some time think about the pairing am I right? So congratulations

[Living Lavish]

At least you provide evidence rather then raging like some people do. I can respect you for that.

I don't see anybody raging here. We have provided plenty of evidence. yet you seem to ignore it

[Don-kun]

I don't see anybody raging here. We have provided plenty of evidence. yet you seem to ignore it

Well I did but then decided that he didn't not worth my time and deleted my post, I was really angry at him for stating that it will be better for Naruto and Sakura to just become friends so Naruto can end up with Hinata and Sakura with Sasuke that way no one gets left out. I mean what kind of mentality he really have, first he starts bashing Sakura and later he is suggesting that NaruSaku should not happen so NH and SS fans can be happy and the pairing they love can finally become a reallity. Screw NS fans our pairing isn't fair to Hinata and Sasuke character.

Fair? I mean, Does Sasuke love Sakura the way Natuto do? Does Sasuke care and support Sakura the way Naruto supports her? Is Naruto the guy who try to kill Sakura in cold blood? Was Naruto the guy who treated Sakura like trash?

Was Hinata one of Naruto's first bond? Is Hinata the person that is always close to Naruto and supports him like no one else? Is Hinata the girl Naruto loves and wish that one day she will love him back?
I mean screw Naruto and screw Sakura, Kishi needs to please Sasuke and Hinata right?

Is this really something we want to speak about here, start considering that Sasuke most be happy with Sakura and Hinata most be happy with Naruto. So what happens with our love for NaruSaku?

Edited by donjoseph19, 17 June 2012 - 04:36 PM.

[kirabook]

I agree that they have too many non-friendly tendencies at the moment. If they do decide to be friends, then their relationship reminds me of those "friends with benefits" Though of course, that doesn't quite fit in Naruto.

Also, I don't think Kishi is the type to pair up people just to pair them up. In an interview he stated Shikamaru wouldn't end up with anyone didn't he? And Shikamaru has 3 people he's paired with. Ino, Temari, and that bookworm girl whose name I can't remember.

He perfectly fine letting others be disappointed in the romance sector. For example, Jiraiya and Tsunade, Obito and possibly Rin.

That said, I'm not all that worried that Kishi will try to make everyone happy. Sasuke doesn't want to be with anyone, not even friends. And his idea of reviving his clan isn't settling down and finding someone to have children with, it's to kill anyone that says "Uchiha" in vein pretty much.

As for Hinata, just the other day I was imagining what would happen if Naruto suddenly went to Hinata after being heartbroken by Sakura -or if he tried to further put down his feelings for Sakura for her sake- My thoughts on Hinata's reaction? I think she would put him down and say no. Hinata isn't blind or stupid. Anyone can see that Naruto has deep feelings for Sakura. Hinata knows this, she saw the hug and everything. She's been watching Naruto for knows how long, she has to have realized it by now, if not by that silent moment when she say the two hugging.

So yeah, I think she would turn him down. Naruto's still in love with someone else. No matter how much she loves him, he loves someone else and she probably won't ever be able to top that.

I've seen this kind of thing happen in other manga's I cannot think of at the moment. But yeah, the second love interest gets confessed to, and might even be in the relationship with the main character for a while before she breaks up with him, making him realize that he still loves another someone, not just her.

Hm...

Edited by kirabook, 17 June 2012 - 04:39 PM.

[Branden]

Well you've made some nice points but all you've really done is respond to the sub arguments I made. the real problem is : what if Sakura's love for Naruto isn't romantic

[kirabook]

Then I guess she doesn't? The answer isn't hard. But that does not mean Sakura will go to Sasuke or Naruto will go to Hinata. NS just won't happen.

The pairings aren't one or the other. If this pairing doesn't happen, the other will. They're all separate and do not really depend on another pairing failing for the other to happen. That is why I feel NS has the most likely chance. They have development that is independent of outside romantic events. Other events involving others -Sasuke or Hinata- in no way affects the relationship Naruto and Sakura has.

If NS fails, then NS fails. NH still has nothing to go on. Their platform is the "Hinata has always been there" argument that I said was flawed in another thread. SS is the next most likely to happen, but I feel it would reflect badly on Sakura's development going back to the person that caused her so much emotional pain and almost physical pain if he had been able to land a hit on her.

But all 3 bases are separate, not equal, and not dependent on the other.

[Branden]

One more question : If Hinata wasn't suppose to be with Naruto, why did Kishimoto make it obvious that she loves him multiple times?

[kirabook]

Romance is included in almost any story. Not everything mind you, but many different stories, romance drama always there, though it's usually only a small subplot of some kind.

With any pairing, I don't like the "meant to be" notion. A real relationship isn't like that. A real relationship is built up, worked on, sometimes the relationship even causes pain, but it's never a "Oh, you're my true sole mate, I was born just for you"

This isn't real life mind you, but even in manga and books, relationships that come out of nowhere make no sense. If you're going to have romance, build it up throughout your plot. The build up doesn't have to be there constantly, but they should at least be noted. Naruto doesn't have development with Hinata. All their important interactions are almost all life and death. They haven't done anything normal together that we have seen, nor have they spoken to each other in a normal environment.

Whatever development Naruto has had toward Hinata has never been romantic or close to that, but it seems her entire existence is to love Naruto and that's it. She's been created to be a love interest, one sided or not. She's there to make the reader wonder and question what will happen when. Her role is nothing but "Naruto's crush".

If I were an author, I probably would create a character like Hinata. Someone who is in no way related to the main events, but is always on the side keeping the readers on their toes for anything that could make them question what they believe in. The character I would create wouldn't have anything resembling a real relationship with the main character and would only think about what they can do for the person they love.

The character that would get with the main character would be the main character herself. She would know exactly what the main character is going through because she's going through the same thing and is directly involved in the events that plague them so. Their relationship wouldn't only be consistent of romance. They would probably start out as friends first before becoming a couple after some hard times, arguments, maybe even some regrets, who knows.

But back to the point, the entire existence of Hinata is drama. Romance drama. If you compare her to Sasuke, she represents no real threat when it comes to pairings honestly. Sasuke is more than romance, he has a character -a screwed up one mind you- outside of that, just like Naruto and Sakura.

[AzureWaters]

One more question : If Hinata wasn't suppose to be with Naruto, why did Kishimoto make it obvious that she loves him multiple times?

All three of them (Naruto, Sakura, and Hinata) started off having one-sided feelings. At first, before the Pain arc, I thought that Hinata's feelings were more connected to her growth as a character rather than progressing romance towards NaruHina.

As of the current situation, I do think that Kishimoto is introducing her plight as more of a "I want to date Naruto" sort of thing. I can't say for certain that Hinata won't end up with him. I'm hoping that the recent chapters will lead to something else, but I can't say that it will for sure.

Shouldn't be too long before the rookies make their way to Naruto now, so we'll see how things progress from there.

[sushi.]

One more question : If Hinata wasn't suppose to be with Naruto, why did Kishimoto make it obvious that she loves him multiple times?

My turn to question you, Branden aren't you lucky I mean are you sure you're an NS-fan?

[Don-kun]

^^
Same question I being asking myself since he join this Forum. I see so much Hinata deserves Naruto in his post.

Romance is included in almost any story. Not everything mind you, but many different stories, romance drama always there, though it's usually only a small subplot of some kind.

With any pairing, I don't like the "meant to be" notion. A real relationship isn't like that. A real relationship is built up, worked on, sometimes the relationship even causes pain, but it's never a "Oh, you're my true sole mate, I was born just for you"

This isn't real life mind you, but even in manga and books, relationships that come out of nowhere make no sense. If you're going to have romance, build it up throughout your plot. The build up doesn't have to be there constantly, but they should at least be noted. Naruto doesn't have development with Hinata. All their important interactions are almost all life and death. They haven't done anything normal together that we have seen, nor have they spoken to each other in a normal environment.

Whatever development Naruto has had toward Hinata has never been romantic or close to that, but it seems her entire existence is to love Naruto and that's it. She's been created to be a love interest, one sided or not. She's there to make the reader wonder and question what will happen when. Her role is nothing but "Naruto's crush".

If I were an author, I probably would create a character like Hinata. Someone who is in no way related to the main events, but is always on the side keeping the readers on their toes for anything that could make them question what they believe in. The character I would create wouldn't have anything resembling a real relationship with the main character and would only think about what they can do for the person they love.

The character that would get with the main character would be the main character herself. She would know exactly what the main character is going through because she's going through the same thing and is directly involved in the events that plague them so. Their relationship wouldn't only be consistent of romance. They would probably start out as friends first before becoming a couple after some hard times, arguments, maybe even some regrets, who knows.

But back to the point, the entire existence of Hinata is drama. Romance drama. If you compare her to Sasuke, she represents no real threat when it comes to pairings honestly. Sasuke is more than romance, he has a character -a screwed up one mind you- outside of that, just like Naruto and Sakura.

If I could rep you for that post, that was a fantastic reply.

[Living Lavish]

One more question : If Hinata wasn't suppose to be with Naruto, why did Kishimoto make it obvious that she loves him multiple times?

Smh @ this. that doesn't mean shes going to end up with him. plus Kishi has made it obvious multiple times Naruto loves Sakura to. the difference is he is the main character and Sakura has shown feelings for him beyond friendship. I can see later in the manga Hinata talking with Naruto and he explains his feelings and turns her down But before he could say anything Hinata understands how close Naruto and Sakura and supports him not to give up on Sakura.

Naruto has to surpass Jiraiya and Obito in love and succeed where hes father did. This is what Kishi has layed out for him to accomplish.

[Gravenimage]

My turn to question you, Branden aren't you lucky I mean are you sure you're an NS-fan?

Let's not get into that I already learned my lesson from it.

[Nostradamus]

One more question : If Hinata wasn't suppose to be with Naruto, why did Kishimoto make it obvious that she loves him multiple times?

Mate read my rant, there i explained why Hinata was created, her great love for Naruto. I also explained Naruto's love for Sakura and a lot of other things. You can find the rant in Icha Icha Narusaku and the thread is called ´´My own personal Rant´´.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Just a crazy idea.

After the alliance shows up Tobi will be forced to retrieve but before he ran away he notices how Sakura is really worry about Naruto, when she starts healing him and everyone is distracted he kidnap Sakura asking Naruto to come at him alone if he doesn't want to sacrifice the life of the person he love, then set up Naruto to faces off against Sasuke without any distraction. After converting Sasuke, Naruto end up being sacrificed at Tobi's hands trying to save Sakura from a sneak attack from Tobi trying to avoid her from healing him, after he is taken away by Tobi, Sakura end up asking Sasuke if he could please save Naruto since she doesn't know if she could continue living without him.
Sasuke then remembers when Sakura charge at him trying to protect Naruto and the time she argue back at him when he insulted Naruto and shouted Naruto's name when they face off at the Summit. With a smile on his face he say, I'm glad that you finally realize how great of a person Naruto really is, I'm also happy to see how much you grow to care about him since he really loves you, then tell her that he is very grateful that Naruto always believe in him and he promise her that no matter what he will save Naruto.

Like I said just a crazy idea what do you all think.

too way clichê..