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#14941 Sakura_Blossom

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:02 AM

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ Apr 1 2013, 02:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tsunade might give her permission to use Sage mode if Sakura is going to see her. Sakura may have more of a decisive role in Naruto vs. Sasuke because Sasuke possesses the sharingan which means tailed beast form is out. Its just speculation though. I think the main thing here is that Kishi isn't going to replace her with Hinata.


I do not think Sakura will be directly involved in the battle between Naruto and Sasuke, makes sound like when she threw herself between them during the battle on the hospital roof happy.gif I think she it'll be close, but not close enough to get involved.

It would be nice if she's doing something for the greater good, like a fight with another person.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:08 AM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 1 2013, 01:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How do we know for sure that the EMS can even control a Bjuu inside a perfect Jinchuuriki though?


Easy, just ask ourselves if the EMS can control a Bijuu inside a perfect Jinchuriki then why doesn't Madara use his to control Kurama?

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:12 AM

Sorry for going off topic but do any of you know which doujin these two pictures came from?

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If I didn't know any better, I would have thought Kishi drew it. biggrin.gif


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#14944 Dkey

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:15 AM

@ex-psych75: http://ladygt.devian...allery/12223636

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:17 AM

LadyGT? Wow never knew tongue.gif. Thanks

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#14946 Shadow1275

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:19 AM

QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 1 2013, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Easy, just ask ourselves if the EMS can control a Bijuu inside a perfect Jinchuriki then why doesn't Madara use his to control Kurama?

I get the feeling that so far after beating the Kages, Madara has been along for the ride letting Obito and Ten tails do all the work. If the Rinnegan is the natural progression of the Sharingan and the ultimate peak of Eye jutsu, it could definitely control Kurama. Madara will probably step in next chapter and lump everyone up to prevent them from stopping the Ten-Tails metamorphases

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:20 AM

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ahh this doujin is great!!!! ... but my favorite is that: http://ladygt.devian...gallery/8285260



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#14948 Sakura_Blossom

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:26 AM

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ahh this doujin is great!!!! ... but my favorite is that: http://ladygt.devian...gallery/8285260


I love http://ladygt.devian...5...60258&qo=35 wow.png

#14949 Jake

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:30 AM

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ Apr 1 2013, 02:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I get the feeling that so far after beating the Kages, Madara has been along for the ride letting Obito and Ten tails do all the work. If the Rinnegan is the natural progression of the Sharingan and the ultimate peak of Eye jutsu, it could definitely control Kurama. Madara will probably step in next chapter and lump everyone up to prevent them from stopping the Ten-Tails metamorphases


If the Rinnegan could control a Biju then why didn't Nagato use that ability, it would've been a whole lot easier, especially during his fight with Naruto he could've used his Rinnegan to suppress Kurama's chakra when he took control? Also I wouldn't call the Rinnegan the natural progression of the Sharingan due to that fact that the only ways to unlock it would be for A) a Uchiha infuse him/herself with Senju DNA, B) a Senju having Sharingan implanted in him/herself (in theory), or C) be the offspring of a Uchiha and a Senju.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:31 AM

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tbh that just made me more depressed because something like that didn't happen unsure.gif

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:40 AM

Maybe Nagato wasn't a perfect Rinnegan user the same way Kakashi isn't a Sharingan one. Therefore a Rinnegan in an uchiha descendant would be stronger because he inherited some traits. Even thou Madara had Rinnegan he still could've used Sharingan specific eye techniques. Nagato either couldn't or didn't know how.

The same would be said in reverse. Even if an Uchiha gains Senju DNA ( or Uzumaki.....) it won't unlock all their abilities.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:50 AM

QUOTE (Dkey @ Apr 1 2013, 02:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe Nagato wasn't a perfect Rinnegan user the same way Kakashi isn't a Sharingan one. Therefore a Rinnegan in an uchiha descendant would be stronger because he inherited some traits. Even thou Madara had Rinnegan he still could've used Sharingan specific eye techniques. Nagato either couldn't or didn't know how.

The same would be said in reverse. Even if an Uchiha gains Senju DNA ( or Uzumaki.....) it won't unlock all their abilities.


Madara is able to use Wood Release on the same level as Hashirama, the only Wood Release technique the Hashirama used the Madara hasn't been able to do was True Several Thousand Hands, which makes sense because Madara can't use Sage Mode.

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#14953 Branden

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:52 AM

I know this is kind of sick thinking but I kind of want Sakura to be put in mortal danger right now.

Just think about it. The fight against Gaara was one of the most exciting moments in Naruto (at least for me). Since then Naruto on his own without any dire situations is much more powerful then he was back then. If he were to have to save Sakura.... I don't even know, last time Naruto went from a typical ninja to hokage level and beat Shukaku. I just really miss those moments of excitement in the series. There's so few of them now...

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#14954 Dkey

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:53 AM

QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 1 2013, 09:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Madara is able to use Wood Release on the same level as Hashirama, the only Wood Release technique the Hashirama used the Madara hasn't been able to do was True Several Thousand Hands, which makes sense because Madara can't use Sage Mode.



Yes but maybe the True Several Thousand Hands is a jutsu Hashirama invented and not something inherited. And just like the rasenshuriken it became stronger in sage mode. But back to the point there may still be abilities that only Hashirama or only the Senju could've used that Madara can't replicate.

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I know this is kind of sick thinking but I kind of want Sakura to be put in mortal danger right now.

Just think about it. The fight against Gaara was one of the most exciting moments in Naruto (at least for me). Since then Naruto on his own without any dire situations is much more powerful then he was back then. If he were to have to save Sakura.... I don't even know, last time Naruto went from a typical ninja to hokage level and beat Shukaku. I just really miss those moments of excitement in the series. There's so few of them now...


Well, if we look at Naruto for a second both emotionally and pshysically he is becoming stronger and stronger. And there are milestones that he managed to surpass becasue of his friends or his determination. Right now for me Sakura being in mortal danger or even getting killed would be Naruto's greatest weakness.

Edited by Dkey, 01 April 2013 - 06:57 AM.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:59 AM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 1 2013, 02:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
tbh that just made me more depressed because something like that didn't happen unsure.gif


It truly was a wasted oppurtunity shamefulcry0js.gif

Her level in badassness would have skyrocketed

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#14956 Branden

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 07:14 AM

QUOTE (Dkey @ Mar 31 2013, 11:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes but maybe the True Several Thousand Hands is a jutsu Hashirama invented and not something inherited. And just like the rasenshuriken it became stronger in sage mode. But back to the point there may still be abilities that only Hashirama or only the Senju could've used that Madara can't replicate.



Well, if we look at Naruto for a second both emotionally and pshysically he is becoming stronger and stronger. And there are milestones that he managed to surpass becasue of his friends or his determination. Right now for me Sakura being in mortal danger or even getting killed would be Naruto's greatest weakness.

i didnt say hurt or killed, I said put in mortal danger so unless naruto kicks it up a notch she'll be hurt or killed

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 07:18 AM

Well, there's so many posts that I wish to comment back on, but it's a little too late. I can say is this. I still wish that Naruto shows the same will power he had back in Gaara because not only he had to save Sakura like a princess, but he went far beyond his limit to the point Sasuke acknowledged that he's never show so much power until now, and even scare Gaara at one point. I would have been scare to see him still dragging with his chin to stop me. That's insane. That said I still hope to see that one last time. This does feel like a good opportunity, but we'll see. I like how Kumo ninja pointing a weapon at Sakura and Naruto went full force and parry a sword. That small bit was awesome. I'm just wondering how long can Naruto fight, because it was hinted a while back that at one point he's reaching there though thanks to Kuruma, he can go a little longer.

As for Naruto changing light, yeah, until I see something similar to these:

Naruto's love 1
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I'm not buying it.

P.S. I admit, I really how the anime did the second scene. happy.gif

#14958 Dkey

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 07:20 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Apr 1 2013, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i didnt say hurt or killed, I said put in mortal danger so unless naruto kicks it up a notch she'll be hurt or killed


Regarding protecting her he was pretty fast to act until now but kinda makes her the damsel in distress.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 07:20 AM

QUOTE (Dkey @ Apr 1 2013, 02:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes but maybe the True Several Thousand Hands is a jutsu Hashirama invented and not something inherited. And just like the rasenshuriken it became stronger in sage mode. But back to the point there may still be abilities that only Hashirama or only the Senju could've used that Madara can't replicate.


True but it is equally possible that all the other techniques, like the Wood Dragon were created by Hashirama as well, given that he is the only member of his clan known to have had Wood Release it would make since that he created quite a few of his techniques.

Edited by Jake, 01 April 2013 - 07:21 AM.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 07:29 AM

Hope it isn't double post.

Well we assume that Senju's inheritance is the wood release because of Hashirama but what about the other Senju's where is there strength. Madara and Hashirama reached the peak of their specific inheritance and we know a lot of the sharingan. But regarding Senju we know to little. At the same time we don't know how similar the Uzumaki and Senju clans are regarding this inheritance. That's why I want to see a Madara - Hashirama fight again to see if there are some skills only Hashirama can use.




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