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#14921 rocci

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 04:06 AM

QUOTE (Sakura_Blossom @ Apr 1 2013, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a question.
Does anyone here still have a firm hope of development a Sakura and not only for NS or you would already be happy with the pairing happening?

It is an important question because since I watch the debates, you will can always change something in my mode of seeing. dry.gif


with the style kishi use in thing manga i very happy if my pairing happen.
about sakura developement if you talk about power than no, but if it's about sakura character developement than yes i belive she will get it.
if ino, shikamaru, chouji, hinata, and even sasuke can get their developement than why not sakura.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 04:08 AM

QUOTE (Sakura_Blossom @ Mar 31 2013, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Beastbomb, yes, it's true what he said, but do not believe it will be something big enough for his own character, with luck, will be something related only to Naruto. I understand what you mean, then it would be easier, but nonetheless, I can not conform to how little is given to her.


Truthfully, like many have said, I think he is saving her for something big. Probably going to be in the sasuke arc, but you never know. There have been so many theories that have been tossed around that I'm having trouble keeping track of them. Some are kinda shaky to me, but there have been a more than few that i have seen that could be possible

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 04:18 AM

I just hope she has at least one more big fight scene like she had with Sasori. It's been so long sleep.gif

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 04:19 AM

QUOTE (rocci @ Apr 1 2013, 01:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
with the style kishi use in thing manga i very happy if my pairing happen.
about sakura developement if you talk about power than no, but if it's about sakura character developement than yes i belive she will get it.
if ino, shikamaru, chouji, hinata, and even sasuke can get their developement than why not sakura.


Yes, it's about character. Sakura get a good lock with your feelings would be enough for me, I'm not expecting more than that from her.
Anyway I have not seen the development of character of Ino, she was not able to let go Sasuke, as Sakura. And as much as it hurt me to say, I do not think Hinata received his development, though I believe it should come with the understanding with his clan (more attention to Hinata). Now, if the development of Hinata has been holding the whole thing with Naruto's hand and be by your side, I would be as disappointed as the development of Sakura when Sasuke is only being around.

But you're right, with Kishi in command I should be satisfied if NS happen. a_plotting.gif

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 04:24 AM

QUOTE (Sakura_Blossom @ Mar 31 2013, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, it's about character. Sakura get a good lock with your feelings would be enough for me, I'm not expecting more than that from her.
Anyway I have not seen the development of character of Ino, she was not able to let go Sasuke, as Sakura. And as much as it hurt me to say, I do not think Hinata received his development, though I believe it should come with the understanding with his clan (more attention to Hinata). Now, if the development of Hinata has been holding the whole thing with Naruto's hand and be by your side, I would be as disappointed as the development of Sakura when Sasuke is only being around.

But you're right, with Kishi in command I should be satisfied if NS happen. a_plotting.gif


Ino got her development with her dad on chapter 616. She had a conversation with here dad about finding true love or something along the lines of that.
http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/616/16

Heres a link. Still can't figure out how to make it come up as an image

EDit: go back a page, my bad

Edited by Beastbomb, 01 April 2013 - 04:28 AM.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 04:31 AM

QUOTE (Sakura_Blossom @ Apr 1 2013, 04:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, it's about character. Sakura get a good lock with your feelings would be enough for me, I'm not expecting more than that from her.
Anyway I have not seen the development of character of Ino, she was not able to let go Sasuke, as Sakura. And as much as it hurt me to say, I do not think Hinata received his development, though I believe it should come with the understanding with his clan (more attention to Hinata). Now, if the development of Hinata has been holding the whole thing with Naruto's hand and be by your side, I would be as disappointed as the development of Sakura when Sasuke is only being around.

But you're right, with Kishi in command I should be satisfied if NS happen. a_plotting.gif

The biggest development concerning her is that in my opinion she is conflicted over her feelings for Naruto and Sasuke. I don't think you have to worry about NaruxSaku not happening because at this point it is the only relationship that has mutual feelings. As for Sakura's moment without Sasuke Kishi has stated that the series will take over two years to finish so there is a good chance that this will happen especially since we are in a war and she can't hide in the background forever. I think the reason that recently all of Sakura's moments have either been thinking of Sasuke or looking on in horror as Hinata holds Naruto's hand is to hint at this conflict going on inside her.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 04:35 AM

QUOTE (Beastbomb @ Apr 1 2013, 01:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ino got her development with her dad on chapter 616. She had a conversation with here dad about finding true love or something along the lines of that.
http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/616/16

Heres a link. Still can't figure out how to make it come up as an image


But in the end she was still thinking about Sasuke, so that was even compared to the thoughts of Sakura when shinobi gave the love letter wink.gif Maybe you're right though.
It makes me think that if someone connected to Sakura, Tsunade or even as Kakashi, he told himself the same words that the shinobi said, she would leave Sasuke to finally go.
Or maybe even their situation with the shinobi was a lock on Sasuke for her? pictureem0.gif

Shadow1275, I agree, those expressions of Sakura during those times must have some meaning, seems to hurt.

Edited by Sakura_Blossom, 01 April 2013 - 04:47 AM.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 04:42 AM

I think that 540 is important not because it shows that she still likes Sasuke, but that she accepts that he is not a Great man and that she is conflicted over her feelings to him. I wouldn't mind some more NS development but there is just about enough. It just needs something more solid. However, I don't think we are going to get an answer until the Naruto v Sasuke battle because of what Naruto said to Sai about not being able to tell Sakura how he feels because he hasn't kept his promise. I also can't really see how Sasuke is going to be redeemed by Hashirama's story considering how it has gone so far.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 04:43 AM

QUOTE (Ex-psych75 @ Mar 31 2013, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just hope she has at least one more big fight scene like she had with Sasori. It's been so long sleep.gif


Indeed. We know she's capable of kicking major ass. It's just a matter of us actually seeing this. How I yearn for this to happen... sad.gif

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 04:44 AM

QUOTE (Sakura_Blossom @ Mar 31 2013, 11:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But in the end she was still thinking about Sasuke, so that was even compared to the thoughts of Sakura when shinobi gave the love letter wink.gif Maybe you're right though.
It makes me think that if someone connected to Sakura, Tsunade or even as Kakashi, he told himself the same words that the shinobi said, she would leave Sasuke to finally go.
Or maybe even their situation with the shinobi was a lock on Sasuke for her? pictureem0.gif


One idea I've heard is that Sakura and Sai may be checking on Tsunade (Not so sure on this one thought), so maybe this will be where her views towards Naruto change. Don't know if it was used as an opinion changer, though I do believe Kishi put that in there to show the status of her feelings for sauke. But truthfully I do not see full development from Sakura unless she moves on from Sasuke by seeing the negatives about his character and then falling in love with Naruto. I would then find her development to be complete. Just getting over Sasuke is not enough for me.

@Shadow1275
Doesn't mean we won't see Sakura's feelings change before than. I don't think they would be made into a couple until Naruto is able to confess towards her.

Edited by Beastbomb, 01 April 2013 - 04:46 AM.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 04:54 AM

I completely understand what you's say, what really bothers me is that whenever something happens to Sakura is about Sasuke, even his fight against Sasori, I like to think it was more to help get Gaara back, but if it were not for find information about Orochimaru, do not know if she would have fought with the same vigor. It makes me feel like she and Hinata were the same, with Hinata always around Naruto.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 04:58 AM

QUOTE (Sakura_Blossom @ Mar 31 2013, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I completely understand what you's say, what really bothers me is that whenever something happens to Sakura is about Sasuke, even his fight against Sasori, I like to think it was more to help get Gaara back, but if it were not for find information about Orochimaru, do not know if she would have fought with the same vigor. It makes me feel like she and Hinata were the same, with Hinata always around Naruto.

I seem to forget; did she know about Sasori's intel before their fight?

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 05:01 AM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 31 2013, 11:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I seem to forget; did she know about Sasori's intel before their fight?


Yes she did troll. LOL tongue.gif

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 05:06 AM

QUOTE (Sakura_Blossom @ Apr 1 2013, 04:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I completely understand what you's say, what really bothers me is that whenever something happens to Sakura is about Sasuke, even his fight against Sasori, I like to think it was more to help get Gaara back, but if it were not for find information about Orochimaru, do not know if she would have fought with the same vigor. It makes me feel like she and Hinata were the same, with Hinata always around Naruto.

But her relationship with Chiyo wasn't related to Sasuke. Hinata had other plot points such as her relationship with Neji and Her father. However these took a backseat to her infatuation and desire to be acknowledged by Naruto. Sakura though most of her development has to do with Sasuke and Naruto, the other part is her growing to be a stronger woman mentally and physically. This was started during the Chunin exams, than was revived during the first part of part 2 where ?Chiyo said that she was a strong woman. The problem is not that Kishi has forgotten her, its that he gives whole books to his side characters and not just his main characters. Hinata, unless Naruto confesses which I don't think is going to happen because of what he said to Sai, does not have anything else to develop.

@Beastbomb
I would love to see her feelings change and her admitting that Naruto is the right one. However Idk if Kishi will do this because of what Naruto said and because he does not seem like he wants to commit yet. We should still see some NS moments during the war though. I think that the next Sakura moment will be a pure Sakura moment where Sasuke is absent because he is still in Konoha, and where Naruto is either absent or supporting her.

Edited by Shadow1275, 01 April 2013 - 05:06 AM.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 05:09 AM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 1 2013, 01:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I seem to forget; did she know about Sasori's intel before their fight?


Yes, obvious change in their attitude, even their eyes are different, here http://www.mangapand...hapter-267.html

Incidentally, even for me who was watching the discussion out, was startled by his sudden change of pairing unsure.gif
It was scary, do not do it again, you are one of the reasons why I made an account here laugh.gif

@Shadow1275, Sasuke gets a lot of attention and he's a main character. Sometimes I think even Naruto not receives as much attention as him, so that it give more attention to secondary characters is not valid, Kishi could very well take two or three chapters designed to Sasuke and give Sakura. But I agree on that part of the relationship between Chiyo and Sakura, was one of the most incredible moments of Sakura, makes me wonder how the relationship should be maternal Tsunade / Sakura, although has not really been shown ... Kishi, Kishi ... dry.gif

Edited by Sakura_Blossom, 01 April 2013 - 05:18 AM.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 05:19 AM

QUOTE (Sakura_Blossom @ Mar 31 2013, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, obvious change in their attitude, even their eyes are different, here http://www.mangapand...hapter-267.html

Incidentally, even for me who was watching the discussion out, was startled by his sudden change of pairing unsure.gif
It was scary, do not do it again, you are one of the reasons why I made an account here laugh.gif

Lol I'm flattered, thanks biggrin.gif

Like shadow said, though, her relationship with and actions regarding Chiyo stand on their own. So does her master/pupil relationship with Tsunade (which, considering current events, will probably be brought up again as part of Sakura's upcoming development).
Hinata has none of that; all of her screen time involves Naruto or her thinking about Naruto in some way.

Edited by Baguette, 01 April 2013 - 05:23 AM.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 05:33 AM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 1 2013, 02:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lol I'm flattered, thanks biggrin.gif

Like shadow said, though, her relationship with and actions regarding Chiyo stand on their own. So does her master/pupil relationship with Tsunade (which, considering current events, will probably be brought up again as part of Sakura's upcoming development).
Hinata has none of that; all of her screen time involves Naruto or her thinking about Naruto in some way.


I hope you're right about respect Sakura and Tsunade be brought back, it would raise a little more confidence I have in low Kishi. biggrin.gif

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 05:44 AM

Tsunade might give her permission to use Sage mode if Sakura is going to see her. Sakura may have more of a decisive role in Naruto vs. Sasuke because Sasuke possesses the sharingan which means tailed beast form is out. Its just speculation though. I think the main thing here is that Kishi isn't going to replace her with Hinata.

Edited by Shadow1275, 01 April 2013 - 05:45 AM.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 05:49 AM

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ Mar 31 2013, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tsunade might give her permission to use Sage mode if Sakura is going to see her. Sakura may have more of a decisive role in Naruto vs. Sasuke because Sasuke possesses the sharingan which means tailed beast form is out. Its just speculation though. I think the main thing here is that Kishi isn't going to replace her with Hinata.

How do we know for sure that the EMS can even control a Bjuu inside a perfect Jinchuuriki though?


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 05:55 AM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 1 2013, 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How do we know for sure that the EMS can even control a Bjuu inside a perfect Jinchuuriki though?



Well it depends how the EMS affects the Bijuu. If it's linked to hatred then it's useless right now against Naruto. But Sharingan being an unevolved version of the rinnegan probably it controls the Bijuu some other way.




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