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[StrikerTheNoble]

Here you go http://www.onemanga....ruto_manga/3/4/

Am I the only one who noticed there was a typo in the translations. It` written Hanuro Sakura instead of Haruno.

[Shadow1275]

DRUNKEN THOUGHTS:

I think NaruSaku was confirmed in chapter 3. Naruto, the hero, said he had romantic interest in Sakura, the heroine.

You have to be insane to think it would end without them being a couple.

It makes logical, and literary, sense. No matter what problems/twists Kishi throws in the way.

Also, Kishi has shown that her feelings for Sasuke are starting to weaken evidenced by the fact that she tried to kill him, chapter 540, and the fact that she was willing to sacrifice her feelings for Sasuke in order to relieve Naruto of his promise.

[StrikerTheNoble]

Anyone remember this:

[Don-kun]

FoolishYoungling, Tsubaki, StriderC a little slow but do to your analysis skills you was able to see that it was a joke, also 六道仙人 and Beastbomb, sorry if I miss anyone who could see through his joke.

NH shipper are really but really passionate when it come to debating you it almost like if NH is really art of their life since the really loves her to a point where Hinata becomes a goddess, another point is that you can notice the Sakura bashing, the Naruto does not love Sakura anymore and he start loving Hinata and the biggest factor is by how long most of their post are, like 4 times longer than INFERNO and RG post.

@Baguette That was good and to be honest you never got me fool since I don't believe anyone who ships NH will ever argue for NS in a NS hell like NB while making some real solid point.

Sadly I was late for that Interview stuff, because to me what gave it away was the part where they ask IF NS was dead and Kishi saying yes because NH is more believeble, a fan will say that if the Manga will shift over to Naruto and Hinata relationship then what will become of Naruto and Sakura relationship and what about her love life. But that wasn't the biggest mistake, the biggest was with the ''will Sasuke ever become Hokage and Kishi saying the he will eventually become the Hokage'' wy I said Sasuke and not Uchiha? Well we all know that he will be the only Uchiha alive after all this is done.
So I guest that little NH/SS/Sasuke fan touch ruin everything else since Kishi made it clear that Naruto will eventually become Hokage.
Anyway shame on me for falling for some parts of the interview I kind a wish those part were truth.

Edited by Don-kun, 01 April 2013 - 12:56 AM.

[Namaenash]

Also, Kishi has shown that her feelings for Sasuke are starting to weaken evidenced by the fact that she tried to kill him, chapter 540, and the fact that she was willing to sacrifice her feelings for Sasuke in order to relieve Naruto of his promise.

Hi Guys, it's been a while since I visited this site. Oh dear, there seems to be interesting stuff happening around that makes this thread jumped exponentially

I haven't really followed,the manga, so I need to catch up. Meanwhile, indeed NS is being cornered and lots of people seems to be disappointed (including myself), but the great thing about fandom is, no matter what happens, we share the common interest --to enjoy our fictional characters get with each other. I'm not Kishimoto, so I don't know how NS will turn out, but it's definitely one of the best pairing I've ever shipped. ( Ed and Winry from FMA is still the best for me).

NS has gone through a long way, and it's pretty sad if it didn't become canon --whether they are together or not, NS fans still deserve the conclusion. Those moments where Naruto sacrifice for Sakura without letting her know... Moments where Sakura attempted to help Naruto without him realizing (Tenchi bridge, Land of Iron). It really makes us wonder, what would happen if they just being honest with each other, just spend a good moments to convey the truth, from the bench scene, to Gaara fight, to POAL to all their moments... It makes you think 'argh, baka Naruto/Sakura if only he/she was there to witness the sacrifice'

Still crossing my fingers that NS will happen, but for now, I'll just enjoy the show

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

DRUNKEN THOUGHTS:

I think NaruSaku was confirmed in chapter 3. Naruto, the hero, said he had romantic interest in Sakura, the heroine.

You have to be insane to think it would end without them being a couple.

It makes logical, and literary, sense. No matter what problems/twists Kishi throws in the way.

Not necessarily. In any work or storyline, the main characters' interest in someone can change easily. Just because it's seen in the beginning doesn't mean it'll stay. The main character just has to show a degradation of feelings or lack of interest as it goes on, helped even more if their love interest does things that negatively affect their judgement of them. Or if they get closer to someone else. And if they get sick of their feelings not being requited if it happens to be that way. Naruto isn't quite over yet, so it's possible Kishi may do this no matter how severe a case of bad writing it is.

That's a heavy claim. However, the problems with why Naruto is unlikely to change his feelings is because Kishi has failed to execute the reasons why he will jump the NaruSaku ship are these:

*Lack of Interest: Naruto's affection for Sakura have been very consistent throughout most of the storyline until recently in the War Arc. However, is could easily cap under it being a war. More importantly, a few weeks before, Naruto's feelings for Sakura were of the romantic nature still and heavily implied to be sincere love (see reaction to confession, 469-470).

*Negative View of Love Interest: Naruto has never shown a negative view of Sakura for extended periods of time that would either a). lessen his feelings or b). Remove them altogether. Now many would argue the confession did. It's true, Naruto did see Sakura negatively for a time, his anger was proof of that. The problem is that Sai soon explained Sakura's motivations and how she did it all for him. Of course just because you know the motivation was for yourself only doesn't mean you'll think lightly of them or agree. That depends solely on the action and/or the character's personality. Naruto's personality shows that he is very forgiving and understanding, even to a fault. So given Naruto's treatment of Sasuke who has done far worse, this would likely not make him stop loving her or even see her badly.

*Closer to Someone Else: Now the automatic response of any true NH fan is that he's closer to Hinata than he is with Sakura and cares for her more. Very, very false. Naruto has spent time with Sakura on a regular basis moreso than Hinata and they therefore have a stronger bond/better understanding of each other. Just because Hinata has a pep talk to him doesn't mean you can throw the NS bond out the window. That's a very misguided action and more likely prone to disappointment. If Kishimoto continues to develop the NH relationship and Sakura is still sidelined or more importantly, Naruto shows something that proves he cares more for Hinata can this be said. So far until proven otherwise Naruto is still much closer to Sakura than he is Hinata.

*Unrequited Love: For many people, unreturned feelings often gives them inspiration to move on so they don't have to constantly angst away over it. Guess what? Not Naruto. Her love for Sasuke has never been enough for him to realize he needs to move on nor has he even tried. It's just out of the question so far. If he didn't move on after the PoaL then chances are that's not going to be a reason for him getting over her, especially since Naruto's feelings have been canonically pinpointed as love. Not only does that basically defy his characterization of "Never Giving Up", it just wouldn't make any sense.

My analysis on why Naruto's probably going to still love Sakura at the end of the series.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 01 April 2013 - 01:27 AM.

[Namaenash]

Honestly, the recent storm clouds have only been a product of our insecurities. They wouldn't exist if we didn't get worked up so easily about minor things like the Volume 64 cover

Just caught this randomly, sorry if this has been explained elsewhere. What happen to cover 64? I didn't aware it's out yet... At least according to Amazon Japan..

http://www.amazon.co...1...to,aps,1024

NB: I hope this doesn't count as double,post. Sorry for the long link, insert link doesn't work ;(

Edited by Namaenash, 01 April 2013 - 01:37 AM.

[Verilance]

it comes out on the fourth of April the usual monthly release date for Sueisha's tanks.

[Sojobo]

DRUNKEN THOUGHTS:

I think NaruSaku was confirmed in chapter 3. Naruto, the hero, said he had romantic interest in Sakura, the heroine.

You have to be insane to think it would end without them being a couple.

It makes logical, and literary, sense. No matter what problems/twists Kishi throws in the way.

Hmmm... to me this chapter confirms only Naruto's love for Sakura.
Chapter 13 is to me the confirmation of NaruSaku, because it's the first chapter that Kishi used to create new feelings for her.


Step by step, even if it's slow we will have a conclusion soon enough about Sakura's feelings for Naruto.
But right now, it's

- Sakura loves Sasuke, and didn't know how she feels for him yet.


We don't need to pay attention to NH, because Naruto didn't show any weird feelings for the Hyuuga girl...

Edited by Sojobo, 01 April 2013 - 01:56 AM.

[Sakura_Blossom]

I really believe that there is no chance for NH, at least not now, maybe if Kishimoto continue with its focus on Hinata might have a chance, but all I can see at the moment is developing Hinata and of course a lot of focus on her character.
I could write a huge theory about why I believe this, but the arguments firmer everyone already knows. I'm also a pretty crazy theory that involves Naruto, Sakura, Hinata and Ino, which may explain why I think Hinata does not love Naruto, but admires, anyway it is not complete, nor do I think that's beside the point now.
By the way, I follow their debates all the time and are simply incredible! This inspired me to make an account and be here too.
Oh, I do not know if everyone who participated in the joke sooner are here , but you will are really crazy LOOOL

[Inferno180]

Not necessarily. In any work or storyline, the main characters' interest in someone can change easily. Just because it's seen in the beginning doesn't mean it'll stay. The main character just has to show a degradation of feelings or lack of interest as it goes on, helped even more if their love interest does things that negatively affect their judgement of them. Or if they get closer to someone else. And if they get sick of their feelings not being requited if it happens to be that way. Naruto isn't quite over yet, so it's possible Kishi may do this no matter how severe a case of bad writing it is.

That's a heavy claim. However, the problems with why Naruto is unlikely to change his feelings is because Kishi has failed to execute the reasons why he will jump the NaruSaku ship are these:

*Lack of Interest: Naruto's affection for Sakura have been very consistent throughout most of the storyline until recently in the War Arc. However, is could easily cap under it being a war. More importantly, a few weeks before, Naruto's feelings for Sakura were of the romantic nature still and heavily implied to be sincere love (see reaction to confession, 469-470).

*Negative View of Love Interest: Naruto has never shown a negative view of Sakura for extended periods of time that would either a). lessen his feelings or b). Remove them altogether. Now many would argue the confession did. It's true, Naruto did see Sakura negatively for a time, his anger was proof of that. The problem is that Sai soon explained Sakura's motivations and how she did it all for him. Of course just because you know the motivation was for yourself only doesn't mean you'll think lightly of them or agree. That depends solely on the action and/or the character's personality. Naruto's personality shows that he is very forgiving and understanding, even to a fault. So given Naruto's treatment of Sasuke who has done far worse, this would likely not make him stop loving her or even see her badly.

*Closer to Someone Else: Now the automatic response of any true NH fan is that he's closer to Hinata than he is with Sakura and cares for her more. Very, very false. Naruto has spent time with Sakura on a regular basis moreso than Hinata and they therefore have a stronger bond/better understanding of each other. Just because Hinata has a pep talk to him doesn't mean you can throw the NS bond out the window. That's a very misguided action and more likely prone to disappointment. If Kishimoto continues to develop the NH relationship and Sakura is still sidelined or more importantly, Naruto shows something that proves he cares more for Hinata can this be said. So far until proven otherwise Naruto is still much closer to Sakura than he is Hinata.

*Unrequited Love: For many people, unreturned feelings often gives them inspiration to move on so they don't have to constantly angst away over it. Guess what? Not Naruto. Her love for Sasuke has never been enough for him to realize he needs to move on nor has he even tried. It's just out of the question so far. If he didn't move on after the PoaL then chances are that's not going to be a reason for him getting over her, especially since Naruto's feelings have been canonically pinpointed as love. Not only does that basically defy his characterization of "Never Giving Up", it just wouldn't make any sense.

My analysis on why Naruto's probably going to still love Sakura at the end of the series.

This

I have always been saying these, these are some of the things related to the story logic and consistency, and the logic/design of the characters. Naruto and Sakura in this case but yeah, these are right on the dot.

Some other things which can be included are like how in 457 we discover more reason for why Naruto loves Sakura, it ties into Sasuke as his goal, if he cannot save Sasuke not only does he feel unfit for Hokage but also Sakura. Its impossible to think that this would be dumped entirely in just 12 chapters later.

Yes it has been a war, they have been separated but this war had to focus on a lot of people, the 3 new kages, some of the villains like the gold and silver brothers, some edo guys, closure for others like team 10 and gaara. This focus had to shift many times.

Also the unrequited love part, one thing that makes this pairing all the more complex is how both Naruto and Sakura feel undeserving of each other, as nagato said, "pain makes people grow closer together and brings understanding" and Naruto and Sakura have the similar pain of losing Sasuke

Okay I admit thats a longshot but it makes things more interesting. Still Sakura is not going to end on just waltzing right over to Sasuke. Naruto and Sakura will have more development together.

All I can say is, Romancegirl this is one of the best explained ways on NaruSaku.

[rocci]

naruto sudden ammensia make 615(and cover 64) look so dangerous for us and glorious for other fandom.

if only kishi do that in chapter 3. then i can accept nh.

[Beastbomb]

naruto sudden ammensia make 615(and cover 64) look so dangerous for us and glorious for other fandom.

if only kishi do that in chapter 3. then i can accept nh.

I'm just waiting for a NaruSaku moment. Being kept in the Dark while waiting for Hinata's moments to end is getting on my nerves. Just something wether it be small or big(as long as it's positive that is)

[rocci]

I'm just waiting for a NaruSaku moment. Being kept in the Dark while waiting for Hinata's moments to end is getting on my nerves. Just something wether it be small or big(as long as it's positive that is)

i think we will get it just like after hinata confension we get sakura hug and approve by the villager.

for me chapter 599(& obito flashback) make me feel safe, as long rin not parallel with hinata i am okay.

there is a reason why kishi make obito as a villain. and if you think what (neji)hinata do is same with what (minato)kushina do to naruto is same, i think sasuke disagree(after what he did in wave arc).

recently i read berserk and what happen to canon couple(guts and casca) is basically happen with narusaku, the different is after they become canon casca get mental breakdown.

[Beastbomb]

i think we will get it just like after hinata confension we get sakura hug and approve by the villager.

for me chapter 599(& obito flashback) make me feel safe, as long rin not parallel with hinata i am okay.

there is a reason why kishi make obito as a villain. and if you think what (neji)hinata do is same with what (minato)kushina do to naruto is same, i think sasuke disagree(after what he did in wave arc).

recently i read berserk and what happen to canon couple(guts and casca) is basically happen with narusaku, the different is after they become canon casca get mental breakdown.

And I believe that they will be the final pairing. But this waiting is awful and I'm worried if Kishi can make NS come back in a way that is believable to. There are many possibilities, but I would really like to see a moment during this arc or before Sasuke arc. Maybe having something to do with that panel of Sakura in 615 or one of the two protecting the other. Hope he doesn't wait till the end because the I'm starting to lose my patience. (I'm not a very patient person, so i feel bad for all the fans who have been waiting for years).

[Sakura_Blossom]

I have a question.
Does anyone here still have a firm hope of development a Sakura and not only for NS or you would already be happy with the pairing happening?

It is an important question because since I watch the debates, you will can always change something in my mode of seeing.

[Dkey]

I have a question.
Does anyone here still have a firm hope of development a Sakura and not only for NS or you would already be happy with the pairing happening?

It is an important question because since I watch the debates, you will can always change something in my mode of seeing.

I think most of us if not all are expecting a Sakura, or a NS development for sure. There's still Sasuke to be taken care of and as shown before he influences both characters. Don't think anyone is denying development for Sakura in the future just that some are sceptical of the quality it will be.

[Shadow1275]

I have a question.
Does anyone here still have a firm hope of development a Sakura and not only for NS or you would already be happy with the pairing happening?

It is an important question because since I watch the debates, you will can always change something in my mode of seeing.

The question isn't really will it happen but when will it happen. When Naruto and Sasuke fight, Sakura will have to make a choice and will not be able to stand in the background. The question is do we have to wait until they fight. I hope not but we will see

[Beastbomb]

I have a question.
Does anyone here still have a firm hope of development a Sakura and not only for NS or you would already be happy with the pairing happening?

It is an important question because since I watch the debates, you will can always change something in my mode of seeing.

Kishi has stated that all k11 will have a shining moment, so I'm holding that against him. If Sakura shines, then It should be big, bigger than Hinata's at least to show her heroine status.

I would say that their is enough development for the pairing at this point. I'm just tired of all the NH stuff we've been forcefed over the past month's. I would like more of a moment between Sakura nd Naruto though just to get the other ships off of our backs.

[Sakura_Blossom]

I think most of us if not all are expecting a Sakura, or a NS development for sure. There's still Sasuke to be taken care of and as shown before he influences both characters. Don't think anyone is denying development for Sakura in the future just that some are sceptical of the quality it will be.

I understand, I'm not really expecting anything from her that is not related to the novel, although I want there to be a fight between her and someone else. But I do not think Kishimoto is still able to salvage what's left of it, actually, I would prefer that he would not touch anything else about her personality, and excluding of course his love / obsession by Sasuke.

I am tempted to believe that any lapse on the part of Kishimoto now would destroy her and definitely do not want that to happen. Anyway I will be happy to be wrong and it really shows is that the heroine finally.

Beastbomb, yes, it's true what he said, but do not believe it will be something big enough for his own character, with luck, will be something related only to Naruto. I understand what you mean, then it would be easier, but nonetheless, I can not conform to how little is given to her.

Shadow1275, again we are talking about romance.

Sorry, I still do not know how to add more than one quote on the issue.

Edited by Sakura_Blossom, 01 April 2013 - 04:04 AM.