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#14821 StriderC

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:31 PM

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Mar 31 2013, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You messaged me you wouldn't do it. biggrin.gif

Get a SasuHina one. a_thumbs.gif

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Just gonna say her bangs sort of resemble Hashirama's. Just longer. Looks pretty awesome though. biggrin.gif I

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:32 PM

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:33 PM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Mar 31 2013, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This hit me again while discussing Bleach with a friend of mine. I was disappointed with how characters were treated in one arc of the show, then they told me to look at the story as one big picture and not as a series of arcs. It reminded me just what great characters they are, even if that one arc didn't develop them.

This reinforced my resolve that NS is the superior ship in terms of support. Is NH getting more fanservice lately? Undeniably. Is that a sign that Kishi is changing direction? Possibly. But apply the "big picture", here. Which pairing has had the most support throughout all of the arcs, in this one large story as one, which pairing? NS.

At this point, it isn't a question of which ship has the most support. That goes to NS, no competition. No, it's a question of which pairing will become canon. There is a difference. If we assume that Kishi will follow through with what he's set up the most, then NS is in the lead for the race to become canon. However, considering how sloppy his writing has been lately, we can't really assume that anymore. This evens out the race to become canon; every pairing has a chance now. Bad writing does that. NaruHina, SasuSaku, NaruSasu, NaruIno, SasuTema, hell, almost anything has a chance now.

If you're a NH fan, power to ya. Your OTP has more of a chance now than ever at becoming canon, whether it will be inconsistent storytelling or not. Enjoy the moment, it is yours as of right now.

NS's biggest handicap right now isn't NH possibilities, it isn't SS possibilities: it's Kishimoto's inconsistent writing.


Yes, that is how I generally view Naruto (sadly, I dropped Bleach. It really really... lost my interest with the Hecto Mundo or whatever)

That is why I was perfectly content until more recently. I look back into the past, I was fine with Hinata's confession, Sakura's confession (even though it was a bit of a fail) and just about everything else. Although in that arc other characters got spotlight, I never felt like any of the true main characters were overshadowed. For the most part, Kishi WAS consistent with his characters and just how much attention he gave them. I thought from the Pein arc forward, Sakura would continue having a prominent role and get more important conflicts/fights under her bolt. That seemed to be the case when those people came in search of information of Sasuke and she was there with Naruto.

One topic I forgot to mention I would like to discuss. Some people feel that Hinata's moment during THE battle of the world does not overpower Sakura's moments. I can't say I feel the same. No, this does NOT mean she isn't the heroine. Kishi has already stated that Sakura is the heroine and all. I'm not worried about that. I'm worried about the quality of his heroine. She's the heroine, she he should write her like one. Other characters got important moments, but they never truly made a main characters accomplishments a laughing stock.

Hinata's moment does not equate to all of Sakura's past accomplishments, but I just wonder what is Kishi thinking. Why would you give Hinata that type of accomplishment at THAT moment. Why even create a situation where readers would question who the heroine is even after you confirm it yourself. That says to me that he's not being consistent. If there's this much unrest within the community over something as simple as 'who is the main heroine, he's just not being consistent. If you aren't consistent, then I think that means the quality is not where it needs to be.

But even now, I wonder... maybe Kishi has been consistent for a while. Other than the Gaara arc, it seems Sakura doesn't get any attention unless it's about Sasuke. Maybe Kishi began moving her to the background before more recent events and we didn't notice until it became glaringly obvious. If he was surprised about the reaction to Sakura's confession, maybe he really doesn't know how to write a heroine. I mean, he does, what Hinata did was very heroine like moment, obviously. So I'm guessing Sakura is only meant to be involved when Sasuke/team 7 is involved.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:35 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 31 2013, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There, that should do it. Problem fixed happy.gif



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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:37 PM

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Mar 31 2013, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Could of just typed "NO". pictureem0.gif th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif

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#14826 Baguette

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:37 PM

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Mar 31 2013, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


Alright I'm done for real this time. Back to Bioshock Infinite for me biggrin.gif


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:39 PM

GJ Tsubaki on shoving Baguette's post against him.

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@Baguette: Hard to debate yourself amirite?

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:41 PM

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Mar 31 2013, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Could of just typed "NO". pictureem0.gif th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif


That wouldn't have the same impact!! fu.png

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#14829 FoolishYoungling

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:41 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 31 2013, 05:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Alright I'm done for real this time. Back to Bioshock Infinite for me biggrin.gif

Change it again first. arg.gif

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:43 PM

QUOTE (Dkey @ Mar 31 2013, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
GJ Tsubaki on shoving Baguette's post against him.

Baguette NS 1 Baguette NH 0

@Baguette: Hard to debate yourself amirite?

Baguette NS is too strong shamefulcry0js.gif

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:43 PM

You two are so good in playing along XD



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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:44 PM

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Mar 31 2013, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Change it again first. arg.gif

Haha Plz do. This animation is driving me carzy. 111193.gif 111193.gif 111193.gif 111193.gif 111193.gif

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:44 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Mar 31 2013, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
sleep.gif: If only you were right in front of me... LMAO

Anyway, I'm working on a sketch for Sakura with the ponytail. I noticed people were talking about it before so I thought I'd bring it to fruition. biggrin.gif


Cant wait for it biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 31 2013, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Alright I'm done for real this time. Back to Bioshock Infinite for me biggrin.gif


Same just chilling on my xbox on one screen playing Bioshock, whilst reading this forum on my laptop.

GOOD TIMES biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:45 PM

I wonder what the guests thought about all of this... LMAO

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:45 PM

I'm reading Vinland Saga while this is going on smile.gif
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:46 PM

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I wonder what the guests thought about all of this... LMAO

I think they're seeing us as a bunch of crazy people with all this fu.png

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:47 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Mar 31 2013, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, that is how I generally view Naruto (sadly, I dropped Bleach. It really really... lost my interest with the Hecto Mundo or whatever)

That is why I was perfectly content until more recently. I look back into the past, I was fine with Hinata's confession, Sakura's confession (even though it was a bit of a fail) and just about everything else. Although in that arc other characters got spotlight, I never felt like any of the true main characters were overshadowed. For the most part, Kishi WAS consistent with his characters and just how much attention he gave them. I thought from the Pein arc forward, Sakura would continue having a prominent role and get more important conflicts/fights under her bolt. That seemed to be the case when those people came in search of information of Sasuke and she was there with Naruto.

One topic I forgot to mention I would like to discuss. Some people feel that Hinata's moment during THE battle of the world does not overpower Sakura's moments. I can't say I feel the same. No, this does NOT mean she isn't the heroine. Kishi has already stated that Sakura is the heroine and all. I'm not worried about that. I'm worried about the quality of his heroine. She's the heroine, she he should write her like one. Other characters got important moments, but they never truly made a main characters accomplishments a laughing stock.

Hinata's moment does not equate to all of Sakura's past accomplishments, but I just wonder what is Kishi thinking. Why would you give Hinata that type of accomplishment at THAT moment. Why even create a situation where readers would question who the heroine is even after you confirm it yourself. That says to me that he's not being consistent. If there's this much unrest within the community over something as simple as 'who is the main heroine, he's just not being consistent. If you aren't consistent, then I think that means the quality is not where it needs to be.

But even now, I wonder... maybe Kishi has been consistent for a while. Other than the Gaara arc, it seems Sakura doesn't get any attention unless it's about Sasuke. Maybe Kishi began moving her to the background before more recent events and we didn't notice until it became glaringly obvious. If he was surprised about the reaction to Sakura's confession, maybe he really doesn't know how to write a heroine. I mean, he does, what Hinata did was very heroine like moment, obviously. So I'm guessing Sakura is only meant to be involved when Sasuke/team 7 is involved.


Nope shes only involded with both Naruto/Sasuke not just Team 7. Dont downplay like her relationship with Naruto doesn't mean anything to her. Kishi has shown us its the closest and most important relationship in the manga to her tbh. I believe she cares more about him then Sasuke. Was in RTN all about sasuke? NO Kishi showed us NaruSaku.

The last time we seen Sakura was her big reaction of Hinata and Naruto then she just...disappears. somethings up. it happend with before in the Pain arc.
I really want to believe that Kishi is going somewhere with showing Sakura's reactions, and that this is just Hinata characterization, what's the point of showing those two reaction shots, if NH is canon and Sakura has zero romantic feelings for Naruto?


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:47 PM

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:50 PM

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You had me fooled and i congratulate you for that.

Now I will ironicly say this to you for the second time: Glad your still with us. Dont make me say it again biggrin.gif

Can you please change the sig to something that is not revolting. NH is unlikely and unhealty but SS is termianly abusive.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:51 PM

QUOTE (Living Lavish @ Mar 31 2013, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nope shes only involded with both Naruto/Sasuke not just Team 7. Dont downplay like her relationship with Naruto doesn't mean anything to her. Kishi has shown us its the closest and most important relationship in the manga to her tbh. I believe she cares more about him then Sasuke. Was in RTN all about sasuke? NO Kishi showed us NaruSaku.

The last time we seen Sakura was her big reaction of Hinata and Naruto then she just...disappears. somethings up. it happend with before in the Pain arc.
I really want to believe that Kishi is going somewhere with showing Sakura's reactions, and that this is just Hinata characterization, what's the point of showing those two reaction shots, if NH is canon and Sakura has zero romantic feelings for Naruto?

Especially since she looks horrified both times. Naruto during her confession was mad at her because she lied about her feelings to Sasuke, not about her feelings for him. Her feelings for Sasuke seem to be cracking as evidenced by 540.

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