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Posted 16 February 2014 - 10:15 PM

For the record, 662 was a best chance to steal the entire momentum for NH. Now, it's gone.

True that , so now i here comments like if Naruto chooses Sakura than what was the point of all the NH moments that he's been giving to the fans  , if Naruto choose Sakura now that would be pretty brutal for Hinata  :facepalm: , i can name a few more but i'm afraid that everyone head's gonna explode from the nonsense that i'm hearing , seriously i can't even go to single thread on different forums and not here "but what about Hinata" it's that bad .   


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Posted 16 February 2014 - 10:24 PM

The "Hinata's development will be pointless if NS happens' argument is pointless. Hinata doesn't have development. Short and simple. The 'development' she got was in chapter 615, but Kishi took that away from her at the very end of the chapter with the 'his hand is so big and warm'.

 

When Hinata moves on, or just asks Naruto to go on a date instead of stalking him in the background and starts caring more about her clan and teammates, THEN I'll agree she has development. But as for now? Nope. She's still  the exact same as she was in part 1 of the series.



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 10:34 PM

The "Hinata's development will be pointless if NS happens' argument is pointless. Hinata doesn't have development. Short and simple. The 'development' she got was in chapter 615, but Kishi took that away from her at the very end of the chapter with the 'his hand is so big and warm'.

 

When Hinata moves on, or just asks Naruto to go on a date instead of stalking him in the background and starts caring more about her clan and teammates, THEN I'll agree she has development. But as for now? Nope. She's still  the exact same as she was in part 1 of the series.

Yes i very much agree , i mean i can even count all the NH (Hinata) moments on my fingers so tell me how much of a development they really have , not to mention that more than half for them is only for Hinata's development . Seriously i even cross upon a comment that said that NH has more development than NS as a pairing :twitch: .    

 

And don't get me started from what i'm seeing from SS . apparently once Sakura finds out about Itachi she's gonna change her mind about Sasuke and forgive him and will love him even more , Sakura's gonna find out about Sasuke's condition and ditch the little orange baboon Nardo , and Sakura has only had conflict about her   feelings for Sasuke never Naruto and the confession , 540 and even 635 destroyed NS and shows who she really loves and will love forever :facepalm: .    


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Posted 16 February 2014 - 10:41 PM

Conversation starter: will Madara simply ignore Naruto, Sakura, Minato, Kakashi, and Gaara (given they don't provoke him), or will he, after taking the other eye back from Obito, proceed to kill them for no reason? I just want to hear some ideas, get some gears turning in my head.



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 10:43 PM

Conversation starter: will Madara simply ignore Naruto, Sakura, Minato, Kakashi, and Gaara (given they don't provoke him), or will he, after taking the other eye back from Obito, proceed to kill them for no reason? I just want to hear some ideas, get some gears turning in my head.

I think he's going to go after Naruto and try to make sure he doesn't get the chance to recover. I really don't know what to expect, honestly.



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 10:45 PM

Conversation starter: will Madara simply ignore Naruto, Sakura, Minato, Kakashi, and Gaara (given they don't provoke him), or will he, after taking the other eye back from Obito, proceed to kill them for no reason? I just want to hear some ideas, get some gears turning in my head.

Kurama is trapped in Obito/black Zetsu now right? Maybe if Madara injures Obito enough, Kurama can escape. Question is if he's fast enough to go back to the heroes or if Madara will catch him first.

I think he's going to go after Naruto and try to make sure he doesn't get the chance to recover. I really don't know what to expect, honestly.

I think Madara is too cocky for that. :P


Edited by sushi., 16 February 2014 - 10:45 PM.

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Posted 16 February 2014 - 10:46 PM

For how powerful Madara is right now, if he decides to go after Naruto, he's screwed over, even if Gaara or someone tries to get him away, Madara will simply go after him. There seems to be no-win situation if Madara decides to go on a killing spree.



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 10:53 PM

My prediction is Gaara's going to send Naruto and Sakura away from the battle or put them in some kind of protective wall. Sakura's going to give Naruto CPR and massage his heart and do the best she can to help him. Minato will somehow get the 9-tails chakra back and go meet up with Sakura.

 

That's about all I can think of... I know. Very creative, right?

 

@ Sushi- It's a possibility. Naruto's among the very few people who could pose as a minor threat to Madara. So it's possible. And by minor threat I mean minor


Edited by Dalton (I stink at names), 16 February 2014 - 10:57 PM.


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Posted 16 February 2014 - 11:05 PM

^I actually think Gaara will focus on the battle now.


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Posted 16 February 2014 - 11:06 PM

Oh, and one more thing: where exactly are Tenten, Guy, and Lee? Relative to Naruto. 



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 11:07 PM

I guess it's possible Madara will just blow Naruto, Sakura, and the others off since they pose as little trouble to him and disappear from the battle. Who knows? It's really hard to predict with him lol



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 11:12 PM

Oh, and one more thing: where exactly are Tenten, Guy, and Lee? Relative to Naruto. 

They are a few kilometers from them just like Gaara , Naruto and Sakura were in 632 . 


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Posted 16 February 2014 - 11:18 PM

True that , so now i here comments like if Naruto chooses Sakura than what was the point of all the NH moments that he's been giving to the fans  , if Naruto choose Sakura now that would be pretty brutal for Hinata  :facepalm: , i can name a few more but i'm afraid that everyone head's gonna explode from the nonsense that i'm hearing , seriously i can't even go to single thread on different forums and not here "but what about Hinata" it's that bad .   

 

While 662 was a chance for NH if Hinata was able to go with Sakura and Gaara, I'd say the real only hope for NH would actually be Sakura dying, but even that has a small chance of happening and if it does, it reduces Hinata to something so minimal, its terrible. So either way, NH is going to lose, either not happening or becoming the most terribly convenient and undeveloped pairing ever in a manga.



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 11:31 PM

Conversation starter: will Madara simply ignore Naruto, Sakura, Minato, Kakashi, and Gaara (given they don't provoke him), or will he, after taking the other eye back from Obito, proceed to kill them for no reason? I just want to hear some ideas, get some gears turning in my head.

 

Well, seeing as Naruto is for all intents and purposes, dead right now, or would be without Sakura, I think Madara wouldn't bother giving him a second glance. I mean, he thought nothing of spitting out the Sage's ninja tools and leaving them for whoever might find them. -_- Madara is extremely full of himself, especially now that he's the Juubi jinchuuriki, once he has the other eye, he'll probably proceed on to activating the Tsukuyomi.

 

That's the best I can come up with, but I'm not very good at making predictions so I won't be surprised if I'm wrong.


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Posted 16 February 2014 - 11:42 PM

 

While 662 was a chance for NH if Hinata was able to go with Sakura and Gaara, I'd say the real only hope for NH would actually be Sakura dying, but even that has a small chance of happening and if it does, it reduces Hinata to something so minimal, its terrible. So either way, NH is going to lose, either not happening or becoming the most terribly convenient and undeveloped pairing ever in a manga.

If you think that they even care how NH is gonna happen or how the paring would look then you are dead wrong , for them it's all about Hinata and no one else and she has to get all she wants cus she's so sweet and innocent and everything she does is in the name of her love for Naruto and she never makes mistakes or beats Naruto like Sakura does . That's the problem i have with them , for them Hinata's perfect and she has to get what she wants they see no flaws with her character and that's why she's the perfect wifu for Naruto   :zaru: .    


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Posted 16 February 2014 - 11:49 PM

It's official, I gave up about debating with the opposite fandom.

I can't it anymore. If I continue, I will become arrogant and mean, so I prefer to give up and concentrate on the manga so I can admire NS without hearing stupid stuff like "it's forced, it's kitten, and it doesn't have any logic."

 

All my arguments are seen as minor importance :

 

- Yamato's speech

- Sakura's unknown feelings for Naruto

- The fact that her speech about that idiot dream was put in the love section in the Kizuna book

- Databook, RTN and other stuff are canon

- Naruto's love for Sakura

- Parallel between MK and NS

 

I'm done with it.

 

I agree with you so much !

I quit another forum recently because I was constantly seen as a fool. lol

I'm done with it too ^^

 

I've tried so many times to convince them, but it's no use.

 

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Posted 17 February 2014 - 12:05 AM

It's funny because in yesterday podcast recording, I actually said things could have worked NH way by having her reaching to Gaara, join with Sakura, and have her do CPR while Sakura does the heart massage. The story would have been different, no?

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Posted 17 February 2014 - 12:13 AM

Well there is one thing that keeps bugging me paring related , does the Hinata praying to Neji is some kind of foreshadowing given the state Naruto is now that he will appear to him and help him , or was it just to show us that Hinata gave up on Naruto's will to live and the only thing she could do is pray to Neji ?  If the first happens then Oh GOD i can imagine the amount of fans that will pin Naruto's saving to Hinata's prayer and brush of everything everyone did for him , even though i give 1% of this happening (cus in 663/664 it was foreshadowed that Sakura and Minato will have that role ) i can't keep but wonder what would exactly Neji appearing to Naruto would accomplish since he already got his resolution with Naruto ? That's why the latter makes more sense to me than Neji actually appearing to him and saving him just because of Hinata's prayer it wouldn't make any sense to bring something NH related since he would have done that when he died , instead he compared Hinata to every solider,friend who was willing to sacrifice for Naruto's sake because of his importance and his believes/nindo . So if you guys have any thoughts on this please share .               

 

I'm actually fearing that too.

I think it's a possibility that Neji appear to Naruto in limbo.

But I would find it very very more accurate that it would be Jiraiya.


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Posted 17 February 2014 - 12:48 AM

 

I'm actually fearing that too.

I think it's a possibility that Neji appear to Naruto in limbo.

But I would find it very very more accurate that it would be Jiraiya.

Well there is another possibility of Neji protecting Naruto that @BlueStarSaber pointed it out and that's thru his team T-Gai as they were also involved in the Gaara rescue arc so they protecting Naruto now will be making a full circle since this situation is a callback of that arc , so it really makes sense if you think about it . Also even if he were to appear to Naruto in a limbo the only thing i can imagine him saying NH related is to help her in his place but i can hardly imagine even that since he would have said that when he was dying so him saying it now or appearing to him in a limbo doesn't make any sense since he already got his conclusion with Naruto's character , unless he appears with everyone that has given their lives for him . But even then Jiraiya is the most logical one to appear to him since he's the only one Naruto hasn't got an a conclusion with and has been a major part of his life .             


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Posted 17 February 2014 - 12:59 AM

Don't forget that normal ninjutsu cannot work on Rikudo Madara. Only senjutsu can work on him. So, unless Gaara will take a Tanuki (raccoon) senjutsu or Kakashi a Inu (dog) senjutsu, the situation is very very critical for our friends

 

Could be that Minato will summon fukasaku and shima? It would have sense, after all...

 

Or it will be the for Taijutsu users like Team Gai, who are approaching them quickly, to get their shine?


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