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#14661 Narufan85

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 03:52 AM

Does School Days count?

I haven't seen School Days! Should I watch?



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Posted 26 November 2014 - 03:57 AM

I still can't believe they had to make Naruto get jealous over Hinata. She's become a damn princess even though she was a shy frumpy dork that Naruto ignored. They had to do this so it wouldn't look like he settled for her but really... There were more ways to make NH appear legit. They chose the crappiest worst way..the rock bottom character-assassinating way. kitten them and Kishimoto. If this isn't proof he doesn't care about his own characters I don't know what is.
It's all about the money. Part 3 a spin off and kissing fans' asses.

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 03:59 AM

I still can't believe they had to make Naruto get jealous over Hinata. She's become a damn princess even though she was a shy frumpy dork that Naruto ignored. They had to do this so it wouldn't look like he settled for her but really... There were more ways to make NH appear legit. They chose the crappiest worst way..the rock bottom character-assassinating way. kitten them and Kishimoto. If this isn't proof he doesn't care about his own characters I don't know what is.
It's all about the money. Part 3 a spin off and kissing fans' asses.

I've seen Fanfic writers put more effort than Kishi.

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 04:01 AM

Man, it's like whenever Hinata touch, it dies. She had a horrible anime ending (stupid bike), she had a bad development (if only there was more), and now, from the creator himself, a bad movie. Oh my lord...

It's confirm that Hinata hyuga = sakura matou.
Sakura matou will have her movie in next year.
But sakura matou is much much much better written character than hintata.

If you know what I mean.

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 04:04 AM

I agree, it's not even a matter of NH/NS or whatever, it's just that such a stupid plot doesn't suit the mood of the manga Naruto. I'll watch it once. But after that I won't consider it part of the series Naruto. I'll watch it and forget about it. The plot sucks, the only characters who have spotlight are Naruto and Hinata, Sasuke has just one line, Kakashi and his Hokage rank lead to nothing, the other couples like ChojixKarui are not explained, no Team 7 bond, no SasuNaru bond.... Ugh,  it's really a bad movie. And NH is not even the main problem to me, it's the fact that there is nothing except that.
 
Oh and no need to hope for the plot to be false, it's true. It was confirmed by Takl I think.

And it failed to make it credible. First of all, the main question is if Naruto ever knows her feelings? Sounds like the ending hype right? No! It happens in the middle.

Dumb!

Naruto only found out in a genjutsu. So in other words, he got forced upon himself to fall in love with Hinata because God knows she can't do kitten.

Dumb!

Sakura, our favorite character if you completely ignore the fact Kishi kept kittening her up, did a nice thing for Naruto, but no longer in action, making her sidelined for the rest of the movie. Our heroine.

Dumb!

Naruto has great moments with Sakura but now we here have to pretend that Naruto is an kitten to her by making her as a trophy or object because of Sasuke. Yes, that heartbroken, promise of a lifetime, and everything else you know, it's all wasted.

Dumb!

I'm stopping here before I crack.

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 04:05 AM

I've seen Fanfic writers put more effort than Kishi.


Yeah to actually say that your main character never really loved a girl...that he just wanted to steal her from the guy she liked JUST FOR THE WINNING SATISFACTION...that is so gross. It's repulsive.

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 04:28 AM

http://animecontinuum.tumblr.com/

 

Question: As a viewer do you think it’s believable now, that Naruto fell in love with Hinata? from 1 to 10?

animecontinuum: that would undoubtedly be a 10.

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Question: Do you think Naruto was already falling or had fallen in love with Hinata before the movie? or all his feelings developed in the movie?

animecontinuum: honestly for me, I always thought Naruto had not loved Hinata before the movie but after watching it, it had led me to think otherwise. Not sure though if it was just me or the others who watched it felt the same way too.

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Anonymous asked: Does the “Naruto loves Hinata now” feel forced in the movie?

animecontinuum: I wouldn’t say it was just forced coz everything leads to it, I mean their past, the instances and the confessions..

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Question: how was Naruto’s confession?. Emotional? Romantic? Touching? did you liked it?

animecontinuum: all of the above. even though I’m a guy I wouldn’t say I was not emotional when I saw it.

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Question: Hi ! Is the movie looks good ? I mean even if there is more romance than fights. I ship NaruHina but I am afraid of being bored. Thank you

animecontinuum: If you’re really not into romance, you’ll be bored but if you are a true Naruto fan, there’s no way you won’t enjoy the movie coz it involves a special moment in Naruto’s life.

Just like what Kishimoto said “Until now, there hasn’t been any movie like it, this Naruto The Last movie”. I absolutely agree with that coz it’s a brave move for a shounen movie to cross the boundaries to a shoujo one. You can really see the effort Kishi and the rest of the cast and staff had put on this one. There’s really nothing like it! ;)

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Anonymous asked: tell us! how many seconds was the kiss? and how did it look like?? close up??? pleaaaase ohgod i can’t handle this anymore.

animecontinuum: you’ll die if I tell you… better not be dead before you watch the movie. ;P

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Anonymous asked: Tell us about the kissing scene, was it really as passionate as the spoilers mentioned?

animecontinuum: All I can say is I haven’t seen such a kiss on a shounen movie!.. the sweetness is so breathtaking! Almost all of us in the hall were shocked, amazed, and it’s like my heart wants to come out of my chest…uggh! I can’t explain it!

If Kishi and the rest of the staff are watching us from the background, they are probably laughing upon looking at our faces and hearing our reaction coz we’re all like..woaaaaah!!!!… ehhhhhhhh???!!!…. ma-ji-de??!! and the others are really speechless.. OMG if only someone took a picture of our faces, that would be epic! LOL

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Anonymous asked: I haven’t seen anyone ask this yet, so…What was the quality of the animation like? Was it good?

animecontinuum: mmm…if I’m going to rate it from 1-10, I’d give it 8.5-9.. but for that _______ scene… it’s definitely a 10!!! (*_*)

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Question: How did you feel when you saw the kiss?

animecontinuum: actually I was kind of shocked coz I never really imagined Naruto doing that but I also got teary eyed coz it’s so touching and because I felt really happy for Naruto. but the girls are like giggling and crying at the same time.


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Posted 26 November 2014 - 04:31 AM

By the way http://jemma-olmeda.tumblr.com/ is real and did see the movie.  She's the one who translated LadyGT's doujinshi... so she isn't biased even if she likes SasuSaku/NaruHina too. 

 

She has Japanese spoilers on her blog too but I don't think anyone translated them.  These are from her -

 

有り難いご縁をいただき
THE LAST NARUTO THE MOVIE の試写会に行ってきました!
見たからには書かないと収まりつかないので簡単に感想を書きます。
ネタバレになるので閲覧注意です。まとまりなくてすみません。
とりあえず飯塚さんのクレジットがなかった…
最後すごくいいところで
六三四の初代NARUTOメインテーマ(再録したやつ)がかかります!!
 
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お話。
 
9割方ナルトとヒナタの恋愛でした。
2人が結ばれて、EDでは結婚式まで見られて
心からお祝いしたいです。
きちんと告白したのはナルトからだったし、
これから先、死ぬまでずっと一緒にいてほしいとも言ってたし、
お互いの気持ちがはっきり描かれててよかったです。
ものすごいイチャコラしてましたw
手なんか繋ぎまくりだし、
水を手ですくって飲ませてあげたり背中に軟膏塗ってあげたり
お姫様抱っこしたり最後はキスしてた!イチャイチャパラダイス!
 
 
仕方ない点。
 
・バトルストーリーがいまひとつ。
原作があそこまで壮大になってしまった今
2時間で倒せる敵なんてうまく作れないよね…
トネリは地球人滅亡させて結婚して結局何がしたかったんだろう…
詳細は省きます。まさか月で戦うとはw
 
・サスケがいない。
前作よりも出番なかったです。キラービーより喋ってないかもw
サスケが出るとヒナタと恋愛がかすむので仕方ない。
映画のサスケの感じだと結婚のけの字も浮かばないんだけどな
 
・恋愛の持ってき方。
鈍感なナルトが2時間で恋に気づかないといけないんだけど
敵の幻術で昔の夢を見て…っていうのはいいのか…ナルト幻術かかるんだね。
でも映画の中で強烈なエピソードがあって好きになるより、
出会いからこれまでを回想して想いを自覚する流れで良かったのかも。
 
そもそもイルカ先生が「地球滅亡の日に一緒にいたい人を紙に書け」という授業を
ナルトの前でするかな…
 
キャラクター同士の絡みで好きだったのは
 
サクラとヒナタ。
最初の方でガールズトークというか
サクラがヒナタの恋愛を応援してるのが微笑ましかった。
でもヒナタってサクラがサスケを好きなこと知らないの?
 
 
ナルトとサクラ。
ヒナタとすれ違ってしまったナルトに
「言えない事情があったに決まってるでしょ!」と励ますサクラ。
ついでに身体の回復もしてあげて…なんていい子なんだ
「一度好きになったら女の子はそう簡単に諦められない」
これはNARUTO界ではそうですねw
 
サイとシカマル。
奪還任務中2人で作戦練ったり敵の考察したり、結構会話してて嬉しかった。
凹んでるナルトに話しかける姿もいつもの2人だった。
 
特にサイはいてくれてよかった。
原作の雰囲気を少しでも感じられたので。
 
 
とりあえずこれくらいです。
後でまた書こうかどうしようか。

Edited by AnimeGirl_123, 26 November 2014 - 04:32 AM.

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 04:37 AM

Ugh, the Q&A above (with animecontinuum) just reeks of a publicity release. 

 

Thanks, but I'll wait for real viewer response, not what the studio wants us to think in hopes of generating more ticket sales.



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Posted 26 November 2014 - 04:40 AM

Well the second blogger is more neutral and really, I respect her mostly because she's being real that the movie isn't really made for those who wants more than NH stuff. In short, don't watch it. Seriously, the last movie would have many potentials to work on, but instead, if you're not distracted by its presentation, then you will see how bad it's written. In short:

"Horrible. Awful. But the effect were decent."

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 04:40 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The whole interview and they gave how Naruto falling in love with Hinata a 10?!

 

 

NEXT!


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Posted 26 November 2014 - 04:41 AM

It's promotional material for the movie, nothing more. *sigh* Move along, nothing to see here....



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Posted 26 November 2014 - 04:42 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The whole interview and they gave how Naruto falling in love with Hinata a 10?!
 
 
NEXT!

Well, it's one person, so whatever. Opinion is opinion. Anyway, it's going to be like all releases when arrive here, especially west. It's like different standards.

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 04:45 AM

Well jemma also said she liked the movie and it was good.  But yea if you don't like NH, the movie isn't for you... which would be most of us here. XD General neutral fans probably will see it too for the timeskip.

 

I'm wondering if I watch it if I will start to like NH again. I really did like the pairing before.  If it's as believable as spoilers claim I may give it a shot and report to you guys haha. Although it won't be for a long time before we get to see it.

 

I posted jemma's Japanese spoilers... So if anyone can translate that would be awesome. :)


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Posted 26 November 2014 - 04:48 AM

Welp. Sounds like garbage. Which is exactly what I expected!



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Posted 26 November 2014 - 04:50 AM

I suck at writing romance yet I can do better than Kishi.

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 04:54 AM

Well jemma also said she liked the movie and it was good.  But yea if you don't like NH, the movie isn't for you... which would be most of us here. XD General neutral fans probably will see it too for the timeskip.
 
I'm wondering if I watch it if I will start to like NH again. I really did like the pairing before.  If it's as believable as spoilers claim I may give it a shot and report to you guys haha. Although it won't be for a long time before we get to see it.
 
I posted jemma's Japanese spoilers... So if anyone can translate that would be awesome. :)

Well, judging by some of things I read, it would seem like flashback won't even contain hand holding. So that would mean I should expect a lot of movie exclusive flashback?

Look, I'm not here to tell you to like or dislike. I would say this: if the focus is one thing, anyone can like it easily, especially if it's heavily focused outside the barrier of the manga. In short, you don't have to read the manga. You can see it and think for yourself. You can have anyone else with similar personality or lack there of and you may like the pairing.

Before I let you go, I will say this and I will be done. The movie is to make you believe in their market. Meaning take the bait and join in. That's why many of us and at tumblr are not buying it. That's like watching the news and believe that the country is really kitten not unless you go there and see why. And this is why I hate this movie with a passion. When it comes down to it, the only relevant characteristic is that Hinata loves Naruto. That's it. There's no need for anything because you got the premise and there you go. Everything else is all movie exclusive. The scarf, the plot, the genjutsu, and the timeline that really adds nothing at all. It's as if Kishi kitten up, he can go back to part 2 era and work from there.

So if you like NH, thanks to this movie, that's fine. But know the reason why we don't decide to like it. It's opinions and we all have to respect it.

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 05:02 AM

The only saving grace (if you can even call it that) is that the ending butchered the characters so bad that it's incredibly unbelievable, and it is more akin to an AU fanfic than anything that happened in the manga. Naruto liked Sakura because of his rivalry? Sorry, that is just too bad to be taken seriously, especially when the manga pointed otherwise.

The ending was so bad that it gives relevancy to fanfiction stories. Sorry, but I'll take 698 chapters of the real Naruto and the real Sakura, with an added touch of tricksie, KonohaKitten, KnS, LadyGT etc. over this garbage any day of the week. The pathetic ending makes it easier to read and write NS fanfic because the characters in the fanfic are who we were given in the real part of the manga, not the butchered versions of them that Kishi destroyed for money.

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 05:12 AM

 

It's probably true. A lot of people are big time otakus seeing the movie simply because of Hinata's voice actress (another possible influence on Kishi making this abominable ending). Sad really.

 

While her VA is certainly a reason, Hinata has gotten popular.  She's the first female to treat Naruto nicely, and it was obvious she had a crush on him, so fans thought in the beginning "Naruto should pair up with her."  Of course, it went into an extreme after a while, even when characterization marches on. . . and then back again unfortunately.

 

Anyway, Yukari Tamura, another popular VA and singer, voices Tenten, yet fans aren't ordering tickets simply to hear her.



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Posted 26 November 2014 - 05:25 AM

Well, judging by some of things I read, it would seem like flashback won't even contain hand holding. So that would mean I should expect a lot of movie exclusive flashback?

Look, I'm not here to tell you to like or dislike. I would say this: if the focus is one thing, anyone can like it easily, especially if it's heavily focused outside the barrier of the manga. In short, you don't have to read the manga. You can see it and think for yourself. You can have anyone else with similar personality or lack there of and you may like the pairing.

Before I let you go, I will say this and I will be done. The movie is to make you believe in their market. Meaning take the bait and join in. That's why many of us and at tumblr are not buying it. That's like watching the news and believe that the country is really kitten not unless you go there and see why. And this is why I hate this movie with a passion. When it comes down to it, the only relevant characteristic is that Hinata loves Naruto. That's it. There's no need for anything because you got the premise and there you go. Everything else is all movie exclusive. The scarf, the plot, the genjutsu, and the timeline that really adds nothing at all. It's as if Kishi kitten up, he can go back to part 2 era and work from there.

So if you like NH, thanks to this movie, that's fine. But know the reason why we don't decide to like it. It's opinions and we all have to respect it.

I saw that! That surprised me! XD Still, we are in for a whole bunch of other crap. 

 

Hm, that's true.  Although you would think focusing on one thing is bad because if people don't like that one thing... the movie logically won't do well. Since it's completely NH, you'd need to at least tolerate the pairing to enjoy this movie.

 

Well, I won't be buying the movie so I am technically not supporting it (ewwww never).  I'll probably watch it when it comes out online for free.  I see what you're saying and I also think many things contradict the manga. I'm just curious at how Kishi and SP will pull this off in a realistic way if that's even possible LOL. So far it seems like I am reading straight out of a bad NH fanfic. 

 

One thing is for sure... NS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NH in development. They just can't compare.


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