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#14661 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:34 PM

QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Mar 31 2013, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^ No it has to be big, at least on par or more dramatic than 615 for me.



None of us psychic, and we can only go off from the manga's showing us at the current time. Baquette believes that NH has a better chance as things are right now, so asking him if he'll switch over later is pretty useless.

Although just because you think another pairing has a better chance doesn't mean you have to abandon ship, unless your only in it to be right in the end. I don't think that's the case right here however.

I would say that she really like Hinata since she is an NH shipper, maybe she switched due to that arc we had when Hinata didnt even made an appearance.
But she's not to blame, since we are reading an manga that the main character hardly reachs the top 5 of character's preference.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 31 March 2013 - 07:34 PM.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:34 PM

QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Mar 31 2013, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^ No it has to be big, at least on par or more dramatic than 615 for me.



None of us psychic, and we can only go off from the manga's showing us at the current time. Baquette believes that NH has a better chance as things are right now, so asking him if he'll switch over later is pretty useless.

Although just because you think another pairing has a better chance doesn't mean you have to abandon ship, unless your only in it to be right in the end. I don't think that's the case right here however.


It's not necessarily useless. Psychic powers aren't a requirement either. LOL It's a matter of, "Will I switch back if NS has an amazing moment in the near future that showcases their development?" I'm asking if this individual will switch over since they apparently switched recently given what's just been shown. Surprisingly enough, it's odd because there hasn't been enough interaction between Naruto and Sakura as of late.

Personally, I'd wait before jumping ship. This is if I were planning to do so. You see, Sakura's feelings for Naruto haven't been confirmed, and there's been no showing of Naruto losing his feelings for Sakura. No interaction between the two either really, so I wouldn't only go off of what I had just been shown. Remember what happened when Hinata confessed... Then what happened chapters after? This is like that moment I'm sure. She's had her moments with Naruto, and now Sakura will likely be thrusted into the spotlight.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:35 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Mar 31 2013, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hehe, I'm agree with you, I'm also curious. Fortunately I ship the canon pairing(or what I think is canon XD). I wouldn't switch even if NH happened, I'll always enjoy the NS relationship more. So because NH has gotten more moments lately, it beats the previous NS moments he enjoyed? Jumping ships seems difficult, it would be more natural to bend over.

Baguette, if you think these questions are too much, please say so because then I'll stop at once. sweat.gif

NH moments are not only more frequent, but also more significant and more impactful than almost anything that has happened with NS in the past.

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Mar 31 2013, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
oh no They told you the NH truth! arg.gif ~

here, watch some NS amv's till you come back to our side!



but seriously if you have switched sides.. that's okay! I'll just cry for a week and realise that all your post on Narutobase aren't true and all my life has been a lie!!! .. but that's okay... shamefulcry0js.gif



QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Mar 31 2013, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bageutte NOOOOOO, don't leave us shamefulcry0js.gif we love you!!!! love.gif love.gif love.gif

Don't join the NH rebels!!! JOIN THE NS EMPIRE!!!!!


Sadly, you cannot chose the ship. The ship chooses you.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:35 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Mar 31 2013, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hehe, I'm agree with you, I'm also curious. Fortunately I ship the canon pairing(or what I think is canon XD). I wouldn't switch even if NH happened, I'll always enjoy the NS relationship more. So because NH has gotten more moments lately, it beats the previous NS moments he enjoyed? Jumping ships seems difficult, it would be more natural to bend over.

Baguette, if you think these questions are too much, please say so because then I'll stop at once. sweat.gif

That makes us two. NS will always be number 1 for me... happy.gif
Naruto is not the kind of person who would give up on his love so easily. Anyway, the fate of NS is in Sakura's hands.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:35 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 31 2013, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's been given development and buildup ever since after the Kage Summit.


And when was it that NS started the buildup??? I think ever since Naruto introduced Sakura in chapter 3 part 1.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:36 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Mar 31 2013, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not necessarily useless. Psychic powers aren't a requirement either. LOL It's a matter of, "Will I switch back if NS has an amazing moment in the near future that showcases their development?" I'm asking if this individual will switch over since they apparently switched recently given what's just been shown. Surprisingly enough, it's odd because there hasn't been enough interaction between Naruto and Sakura as of late.

Personally, I'd wait before jumping ship. This is if I were planning to do so. You see, Sakura's feelings for Naruto haven't been confirmed, and there's been no showing of Naruto losing his feelings for Sakura. No interaction between the two either really, so I wouldn't only go off of what I had just been shown. Remember what happened when Hinata confessed... Then what happened chapters after? This is like that moment I'm sure. She's had her moments with Naruto, and now Sakura will likely be thrusted into the spotlight.

The only things that will make me jump ship is Naruto showing affection for Hinata, giving hints like Sakura give to Naruto the entire manga.
if he shows that then i'll know that Naruto's love is not genuine and neither an example and i would not care about who he will end with who.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 31 March 2013 - 07:37 PM.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:36 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Mar 31 2013, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And when was it that NS started the buildup??? I think ever since Naruto introduced Sakura in chapter 3 part 1.

And that buildup came crashing down as of the confession.
If you truly believe NS is still alive, then why hasn't it gotten a single moment in over 2 years?

Edited by Baguette, 31 March 2013 - 07:37 PM.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:37 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Mar 31 2013, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hehe, I'm agree with you, I'm also curious. Fortunately I ship the canon pairing(or what I think is canon XD). I wouldn't switch even if NH happened, I'll always enjoy the NS relationship more. So because NH has gotten more moments lately, it beats the previous NS moments he enjoyed? Jumping ships seems difficult, it would be more natural to bend over.

Baguette, if you think these questions are too much, please say so because then I'll stop at once. sweat.gif


Same here. I'm with NS all the way. I'm not jumping ship even if it doesn't become canon. biggrin.gif

And as for the bolded, I agree. I can accept something, but I personally can't see myself just jumping ship.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:37 PM

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Mar 31 2013, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
oh no They told you the NH truth! arg.gif ~

here, watch some NS amv's till you come back to our side!



but seriously if you have switched sides.. that's okay! I'll just cry for a week and realise that all your post on Narutobase aren't true and all my life has been a lie!!! .. but that's okay... shamefulcry0js.gif

Well, you still got me. I agree with sushi, if NH happens, I still won't think it's the best pairing because well, that's Kishi's fault for not developing NH oh so well yet abandoned the other one which has a lot (go figure). Then again, I'll probably won't care anymore because again, this is like kill two birds with one stone and by god, I'm not tolerating crapfest like that. I haven't lost a pairing war and seeing this being the obvious endgame only to turn 180 without a hint will damage the series to the point that there's no reason to speculate.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:38 PM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Mar 31 2013, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Every character (IMO) represents some aspect of human nature, Kishi uses his characters to show us what these aspects are all about:
- Sasuke -> power;
- Naruto - > acknowledgement;
- Sakura -> love;
- Itachi - > loyalty;

etc. etc. etc.

True. Though I wonder how Naruto plans to fight Madara and Sasuke who both possess the Sharingan. With this, they can neutralize his tailed beast powers and we don't know how Sage mode stacks up against Mangekyo Sharingan because Naruto's fight with Sasuke was interrupted by Obito. Because of this, Sakura could be a very decisive factor in the fight between Naruto and Sasuke. The other thing is Orochimaru is a big X factor. We know that he wants to understand all jutsu and that the Rinnegan is the natural evolution of the sharingan. plus all jutsu can be learned throught the rinnegan. With Orochimaru back at full power you have to wonder what part he will play and whether or not Sasuke can resist him.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:38 PM

Eh you shouldn't jump ship for that reason. Even if NaruHina started becoming obvious that's not a legitmate reason to switch sides. Only if you like the pairing for what it is is a change of heart genuine and not opportunistic. Abandoning ship just to be on the winning side is lame.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:39 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 31 2013, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And that buildup came crashing down as of the confession.
If you truly believe NS is still alive, then why hasn't it gotten a single moment in over 2 years?

>2 years
>when just passed 3 days on the actual manga

I wish i could imagine Naruto fighting against the juubi for whole 4 months

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 31 March 2013 - 07:41 PM.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:40 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 31 2013, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And that buildup came crashing down as of the confession.


How? Because they've hit a patch in the road? Happens to couples all the time IRL. I actually invite the angst. Makes it more interesting. As some have stated before, he didn't deny her when she called him out on his feelings. He just denied what she felt in regards to Sasuke I'm mostly assuming. After that, they've not interacted much so who's to say it has "crashed". It'll NEVER crash. They may not end up being together but that relationship is as strong as the strongest alloy. There's just no way. LOL Surprised you even said it crashed but whatever.biggrin.gif

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:40 PM

QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Mar 31 2013, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eh you shouldn't jump ship for that reason. Even if NaruHina started becoming obvious that's not a legitmate reason to switch sides. Only if you like the pairing for what it is is a change of heart genuine and not opportunistic. Abandoning ship just to be on the winning side is lame.

Bandwagon as they may call it. I'm the guy who will die with it, not jump to another because of dedication. So far, all of my ships were safe in the end from various anime/manga, so let's see if this one can sink one.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:41 PM

About the confession: Naruto said that Sakura was lying to herself when she said that she doesn't love Sasuke anymore and that she doesn't care about him. I don't see how this blows a hole in NS ship... Naruto still loves her (databook 3.5).

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:42 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 31 2013, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
>2 years
>when just passed 3 days on the actual manga

The thing is, Kishimoto lives by real life time standards, and not that of the Narutoverse. For him, it has also been 2 years since a NS moment.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:42 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 31 2013, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And that buildup came crashing down as of the confession.


As Darkcrest said until Naruto starts showing the same level of affection towards Hinata the same way Sakura has shown to him. This is the usual way of Kishi playing with pairings its like he's juggling the three pairings until he decides to stop and drops down NH and SS and then he gives NS in the end. That's how I have always seen it and also Naruto moving on from Sakura to Hinata means giving up. Naruto+give up has never add up. If he strongly believes he can still find a way to save Sasuke then it's the same with his love dilema. If he hasn't given up on Sasuke he's not going to give up in getting over Sakura and moving on to Hinata.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:42 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 31 2013, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And that buildup came crashing down as of the confession.
If you truly believe NS is still alive, then why hasn't it gotten a single moment in over 2 years?

I guess we all have different mindsets. I think of it this way; last time Naruto's love for Sakura was reconfirmed was after her confession, which is like a week ago in their world. Naruto's love for Sakura had so many chances where it could fade away(Sakura's confession, her love for Sasuke, Hinata's confession.) So far, they've done nothing, and that's enough for me. tongue.gif

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:44 PM

QUOTE (Tauriel @ Mar 31 2013, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
About the confession: Naruto said that Sakura was lying to herself when she said that she doesn't love Sasuke anymore and that she doesn't care about him. I don't see how this blows a hole in NS ship... Naruto still loves her (databook 3.5).

That and she is clearly conflicted over how she feels about Sasuke in 540.

As for no NaruxSaku moments, we have the hug, the confession, but also whenever Hinata makes a move on Naruto Sakura gets a whole panel to herself showing a shocked expression.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:44 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 31 2013, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thing is, Kishimoto lives by real life time standards, and not that of the Narutoverse. For him, it has also been 2 years since a NS moment.

He only release one manga per week.
On an story time cannot be measured the only thing he said is that it's passed 3 days the whole war arc, which took 2 years( on real life)
It took 2 years for him to cover 3 days on the manga.

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